I am buying a table saw and the old gent who's selling it also has a
Bailey #7 in very good shape. Japanning in good shape, no rust,
sharp. So, what is the resale value? I told him that some of these
(possibly) old planes can be worth a couple hundred bucks, and I
didn't want to steal it from them.
I told them I'd let them know the approximate value and whether or not
I could afford it :).
Thanks,
-Phil Crow
Wed, Nov 5, 2003, 3:32pm (EST-3) [email protected] (Phil=A0Crow) says:
<snip> I told him that some of these (possibly) old planes can be worth
a couple hundred bucks, and I didn't want to steal it from them.
Well, that should have effectively jacked up the selling price a
few notches.
I told them I'd let them know the approximate value and whether or not I
could afford it :).
Wrong. What you should have done, is say, let me think about it.
Then you find out what they go for, go back and make an offer. And, not
as high as you're willing to go.
It wouldn't surprise me if the old dude knows it worth down to the
nearest dollar.
JOAT
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I just got a Type 9, ca. 1905 and paid over a hundred for it. Mainly
because I needed a #7 and this was from a dealer with a great reputation.
And, I got what I paid for as all the parts are original, it works
flawlessly and I didn't have to screw with it.
--
There are no stupid questions.
There are a LOT of inquisitive idiots.
"Phil Crow" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I am buying a table saw and the old gent who's selling it also has a
> Bailey #7 in very good shape. Japanning in good shape, no rust,
> sharp. So, what is the resale value? I told him that some of these
> (possibly) old planes can be worth a couple hundred bucks, and I
> didn't want to steal it from them.
>
> I told them I'd let them know the approximate value and whether or not
> I could afford it :).
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Phil Crow
Phil Crow asked:
So, what is the resale value? I told him that some of these
> (possibly) old planes can be worth a couple hundred bucks, and I
> didn't want to steal it from them.
http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?cgiurl=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2Fws%2F&krd=1&from=R8&MfcISAPICommand=GetResult&ht=1&SortProperty=MetaEndSort&query=Stanley+%237
Mind the wrap. I'd say somewhat less than $100 ifit's in good shape.
Mine cost me between $40 and $60. Different brands, and such. You
didn't say much about the plane, so it's kinda hard to guess accurately.
Dave in Fairfax
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Phil Crow wrote:
> Thanks for the help. I, uh, didn't even know what to look for on the
> plane itself until I got home and DAGS. I will probably pick up my
> cabinet saw tomorrow after work (drive by neener) and will get a more
> detailed description.
> Coming soon: 'The B-day cabinet saw gloat'
As I see it, the problem now is that you mentioned a couple hundred
bucks. If the guy knows what the plane is really worth, he thinks that
he's hooked a live one. if he doesn't, you've gotten his hopes up. The
answer, as I se it, is to print off the eBay prices for several auctions
and take them over with you. Get GOOD pictures and a variety of prices
so that his falls in the middle of the quality and therefore the
prices. Then offer him a price that seems appropriate, that way he
knows that you've done the math and he doesn't feel like he's being bent
over. A "win" for both sides.
Dave in Fairfax
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Mike wrote:
> [email protected] (Phil Crow) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>
>>[email protected] (Phil Crow) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>>
>>>I am buying a table saw and the old gent who's selling it also has a
>>>Bailey #7 in very good shape. Japanning in good shape, no rust,
>>>sharp. So, what is the resale value? I told him that some of these
>>>(possibly) old planes can be worth a couple hundred bucks, and I
>>>didn't want to steal it from them.
>>>
>>>I told them I'd let them know the approximate value and whether or not
>>>I could afford it :).
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>
>>>-Phil Crow
>>
>>Okay, here's the stuff that's cast into the plane:
>>On the forward end: BAILEY (all caps)
>>
>>Behind the frog: MAR 25 - 02
>> AUG 19 - 02
>>
>>On the rear end: No. 7
>>
>>So there it is.
>>
>>-Phil Crow
>
>
> IMO, a couple hundred US$ is too much, even if it's in pristine
> condition. I commonly see high quality #7s being sold by my preferred
> old tool dealer in the $50-$75 range. Sometimes more if it's a really
> nice one. Of course, other dealers charge more and often get it. I
> answered an "antique ww tools for sale" internet ad and was sent a few
> photos with asking prices. One was a post-WWII #7 with a busted tote
> priced at $125. The other stuff was also outrageously priced. I
> politely told the seller he's going to have a long wait before he
> sells at those prices and I was told that he *always* gets his asking
> price for tools. Sh!t, I gotta get a hold of his customer list.
>
> Cheers,
> Mike
Found a #7 Type 11 in great shape, only had a healthly coat of Infantry
Gold, no pitting, at a Flea Market for $25.
Kevin
Did that include shipping charges? You have to include that to know your
actual cost.
"Larry C in Auburn, WA" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:gClqb.118254$HS4.1011490@attbi_s01...
> Phil, I know some on the wreck knock eBay, but one thing it's really good
> for is to check prices. Look at completed auctions and you can see what
> they actually sold for. FWIW, I have three #7's and I think I paid
between
> $30-$55 for each.
>
> Of course it matters less what it's worth to all of us and more what it's
> worth to you. It sounds to me like you don't want it as a collector, but
> more as a user. If so you can probably pick one up rather cheaply because
a
> little rust won't hurt it (and is easy to clean up) plus the japanning
isn't
> critical for a user. In other words, don't pay extra for something you
> don't need if you could buy a cheaper user elsewhere.
>
> --
> Larry C in Auburn, WA
>
>
> "Phil Crow" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I am buying a table saw and the old gent who's selling it also has a
> > Bailey #7 in very good shape. Japanning in good shape, no rust,
> > sharp. So, what is the resale value? I told him that some of these
> > (possibly) old planes can be worth a couple hundred bucks, and I
> > didn't want to steal it from them.
> >
> > I told them I'd let them know the approximate value and whether or not
> > I could afford it :).
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > -Phil Crow
>
>
I bought a #7 from William Alden just a few years ago for $65.
n Thu, 6 Nov 2003 10:31:06 -0800, "Slowhand" <I'm@work> wrote:
>
>"Phil Crow" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> I am buying a table saw and the old gent who's selling it also has a
>> Bailey #7 in very good shape. Japanning in good shape, no rust,
>> sharp. So, what is the resale value? I told him that some of these
>> (possibly) old planes can be worth a couple hundred bucks, and I
>> didn't want to steal it from them.
>>
>> I told them I'd let them know the approximate value and whether or not
>> I could afford it :).
>
>What type (year) is it? A type 1 bailey in good condition will go for a
>couple a hundert. A 1950's model will go for $30-$50. There are alot of
>variables for planes.
>SH
>
Yes it included shipping. It really isn't too much for a plane (compared to
a case of drawer slides, etc). I agree you have to include shipping though
because sometimes the shipping can run more than the winning bid. It could
still be a good deal and many times are, but you have to be careful.
--
Larry C in Auburn, WA
"Lowell Holmes" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Did that include shipping charges? You have to include that to know your
> actual cost.
>
> "Larry C in Auburn, WA" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:gClqb.118254$HS4.1011490@attbi_s01...
> > Phil, I know some on the wreck knock eBay, but one thing it's really
good
> > for is to check prices. Look at completed auctions and you can see what
> > they actually sold for. FWIW, I have three #7's and I think I paid
> between
> > $30-$55 for each.
> >
> > Of course it matters less what it's worth to all of us and more what
it's
> > worth to you. It sounds to me like you don't want it as a collector,
but
> > more as a user. If so you can probably pick one up rather cheaply
because
> a
> > little rust won't hurt it (and is easy to clean up) plus the japanning
> isn't
> > critical for a user. In other words, don't pay extra for something you
> > don't need if you could buy a cheaper user elsewhere.
> >
> > --
> > Larry C in Auburn, WA
> >
> >
> > "Phil Crow" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > I am buying a table saw and the old gent who's selling it also has a
> > > Bailey #7 in very good shape. Japanning in good shape, no rust,
> > > sharp. So, what is the resale value? I told him that some of these
> > > (possibly) old planes can be worth a couple hundred bucks, and I
> > > didn't want to steal it from them.
> > >
> > > I told them I'd let them know the approximate value and whether or not
> > > I could afford it :).
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > -Phil Crow
> >
> >
>
>
Phil Crow wrote:
> [email protected] (Phil Crow) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>
> Okay, here's the stuff that's cast into the plane:
> On the forward end: BAILEY (all caps)
>
> Behind the frog: MAR 25 - 02
> AUG 19 - 02
>
> On the rear end: No. 7
>
Does it have a frog adjustment screw? That's a nice feature to have for a user
plane. Those patent dates are right on the border line of when that feature
was introduced; some have 'em, some don't.
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Snip
> Mind the wrap. I'd say somewhat less than $100 ifit's in good shape.
> Mine cost me between $40 and $60. Different brands, and such. You
> didn't say much about the plane, so it's kinda hard to guess accurately.
>
> Dave in Fairfax
Dave,
Thanks for the help. I, uh, didn't even know what to look for on the
plane itself until I got home and DAGS. I will probably pick up my
cabinet saw tomorrow after work (drive by neener) and will get a more
detailed description.
Coming soon: 'The B-day cabinet saw gloat'
-Phil Crow
[email protected] (Phil Crow) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> I am buying a table saw and the old gent who's selling it also has a
> Bailey #7 in very good shape. Japanning in good shape, no rust,
> sharp. So, what is the resale value? I told him that some of these
> (possibly) old planes can be worth a couple hundred bucks, and I
> didn't want to steal it from them.
>
> I told them I'd let them know the approximate value and whether or not
> I could afford it :).
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Phil Crow
Okay, here's the stuff that's cast into the plane:
On the forward end: BAILEY (all caps)
Behind the frog: MAR 25 - 02
AUG 19 - 02
On the rear end: No. 7
So there it is.
-Phil Crow
Phil:
I just picked one up in good condition, no rust and Japanning in tact, for
$65.00. I would say if premo, $75-80 max.
Mike
<[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> Phil Crow asked:
> So, what is the resale value? I told him that some of these
> > (possibly) old planes can be worth a couple hundred bucks, and I
> > didn't want to steal it from them.
>
>
http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?cgiurl=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2Fws%2F&krd=1&from=R8&MfcISAPICommand=GetResult&ht=1&SortProperty=MetaEndSort&query=Stanley+%237
>
> Mind the wrap. I'd say somewhat less than $100 ifit's in good shape.
> Mine cost me between $40 and $60. Different brands, and such. You
> didn't say much about the plane, so it's kinda hard to guess accurately.
>
> Dave in Fairfax
> --
> reply-to doesn't work
> use:
> daveldr at att dot net
[email protected] (Phil Crow) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> [email protected] (Phil Crow) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> > I am buying a table saw and the old gent who's selling it also has a
> > Bailey #7 in very good shape. Japanning in good shape, no rust,
> > sharp. So, what is the resale value? I told him that some of these
> > (possibly) old planes can be worth a couple hundred bucks, and I
> > didn't want to steal it from them.
> >
> > I told them I'd let them know the approximate value and whether or not
> > I could afford it :).
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > -Phil Crow
>
> Okay, here's the stuff that's cast into the plane:
> On the forward end: BAILEY (all caps)
>
> Behind the frog: MAR 25 - 02
> AUG 19 - 02
>
> On the rear end: No. 7
>
> So there it is.
>
> -Phil Crow
IMO, a couple hundred US$ is too much, even if it's in pristine
condition. I commonly see high quality #7s being sold by my preferred
old tool dealer in the $50-$75 range. Sometimes more if it's a really
nice one. Of course, other dealers charge more and often get it. I
answered an "antique ww tools for sale" internet ad and was sent a few
photos with asking prices. One was a post-WWII #7 with a busted tote
priced at $125. The other stuff was also outrageously priced. I
politely told the seller he's going to have a long wait before he
sells at those prices and I was told that he *always* gets his asking
price for tools. Sh!t, I gotta get a hold of his customer list.
Cheers,
Mike
Phil, I know some on the wreck knock eBay, but one thing it's really good
for is to check prices. Look at completed auctions and you can see what
they actually sold for. FWIW, I have three #7's and I think I paid between
$30-$55 for each.
Of course it matters less what it's worth to all of us and more what it's
worth to you. It sounds to me like you don't want it as a collector, but
more as a user. If so you can probably pick one up rather cheaply because a
little rust won't hurt it (and is easy to clean up) plus the japanning isn't
critical for a user. In other words, don't pay extra for something you
don't need if you could buy a cheaper user elsewhere.
--
Larry C in Auburn, WA
"Phil Crow" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I am buying a table saw and the old gent who's selling it also has a
> Bailey #7 in very good shape. Japanning in good shape, no rust,
> sharp. So, what is the resale value? I told him that some of these
> (possibly) old planes can be worth a couple hundred bucks, and I
> didn't want to steal it from them.
>
> I told them I'd let them know the approximate value and whether or not
> I could afford it :).
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Phil Crow
On 6 Nov 2003 18:46:12 -0800, [email protected] (Phil Crow) added:
>Okay, here's the stuff that's cast into the plane:
>On the forward end: BAILEY (all caps)
>
>Behind the frog: MAR 25 - 02
> AUG 19 - 02
>
>On the rear end: No. 7
>
>So there it is.
http://www.hyperkitten.com/tools/stanley_bench_plane/dating/
has instructions on how to date Stanley planes. See if it still works.
I used it to date my No. 7C to between 1919 and 1923 (IIRC), but that
was quite a few years ago.
Luigi
Replace "no" with "yk" twice
in reply address for real email address
"Phil Crow" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I am buying a table saw and the old gent who's selling it also has a
> Bailey #7 in very good shape. Japanning in good shape, no rust,
> sharp. So, what is the resale value? I told him that some of these
> (possibly) old planes can be worth a couple hundred bucks, and I
> didn't want to steal it from them.
>
> I told them I'd let them know the approximate value and whether or not
> I could afford it :).
What type (year) is it? A type 1 bailey in good condition will go for a
couple a hundert. A 1950's model will go for $30-$50. There are alot of
variables for planes.
SH
"Phil Crow" <[email protected]> wrote in message > Okay, here's the stuff
that's cast into the plane:
> On the forward end: BAILEY (all caps)
>
> Behind the frog: MAR 25 - 02
> AUG 19 - 02
>
> On the rear end: No. 7
Definately a type 10. Worth about $90 - $120 in good condition and all the
orignal parts are there.
Good luck!
SH