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"Ivan Vegvary"

16/03/2006 6:01 PM

Making long boards out of short

Is there any practical way of doing this? I have 160± pieces of 1"x6"x42"
boards. Hem fir.
Is finger jointing possible in the home shop. Willing to pay for some
tooling. Could a commercial place 'fingerjoint' this for me for a price
that would be less than buying equivalent amount of lumber. BTW, I live in
the Northwest, we have some lumber mills nearby.

BTW, 15 years ago I cut 3000 l.f. of custom moulding for a re-model that I
was doing. Still have the Foley Belsaw moulder. At that time a lumber
supplier was able to get me finger joint (not door jamb) 1" primed paint
grade lumber for a very attractive price. Finger joint has no knots, does
not warp (every other piece is flip-flopped) and is great to work with.
Sure beats the mdf which turns to dust when you shape it.

Thanks for ideas,

Ivan Vegvary


This topic has 11 replies

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in reply to "Ivan Vegvary" on 16/03/2006 6:01 PM

16/03/2006 10:20 AM


Ivan Vegvary wrote:
> Is there any practical way of doing this? I have 160=B1 pieces of 1"x6"x=
42"
> boards. Hem fir.
> Is finger jointing possible in the home shop. Willing to pay for some
> tooling. Could a commercial place 'fingerjoint' this for me for a price
> that would be less than buying equivalent amount of lumber. BTW, I live =
in
> the Northwest, we have some lumber mills nearby.

There are fingerjoint router bits sold for just this purpose.

That's a good size, but not a good wood, for fence pickets.

It seems they'd also be good for some 20" x 20" x 40" six
board blanket boxes, toy chests etc. They'd use about 20
boards each with very little left over. With Careful resawing
and planing you could get two 1/4" boards from each and
use them for drawer sides.

I had thought softwood too soft for drawers and runners but
recently re-finished my Mother's pine nightstand. 60 +
years old, been chewed on by dogs and run over a few
times by my Dad on his scooter and still sturdy as hell,
as is the nightstand.

--=20

FF

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"henry"

in reply to "Ivan Vegvary" on 16/03/2006 6:01 PM

16/03/2006 2:45 PM

A Scarf Joint will make the boards longer and less wide.

Rr

"RicodJour"

in reply to "Ivan Vegvary" on 16/03/2006 6:01 PM

16/03/2006 3:38 PM

henry wrote:
> A Scarf Joint will make the boards longer and less wide.

Explain that, please.

R

pd

"professorpaul"

in reply to "Ivan Vegvary" on 16/03/2006 6:01 PM

16/03/2006 6:39 PM

Check this link...

http://www.glen-l.com/supplies/pxman-apscarf.html

Bm

"Bugs"

in reply to "Ivan Vegvary" on 16/03/2006 6:01 PM

20/03/2006 5:23 PM

Try a birds tongue joint which you can cut on the table saw. It makes a
very strong joint that is attractive. The down side is that it uses up
a little more of the length to form the long tapered joint.
Bugs

Rr

"RicodJour"

in reply to "Ivan Vegvary" on 16/03/2006 6:01 PM

20/03/2006 5:48 PM

henry wrote:
> A Scarf Joint will make the boards longer and less wide.

I'm still curious why a scarf joint would affect the width of the
board(s). How does an end joint affect the width?

R

CF

Chris Friesen

in reply to "Ivan Vegvary" on 16/03/2006 6:01 PM

16/03/2006 1:08 PM

[email protected] wrote:

> I had thought softwood too soft for drawers and runners but
> recently re-finished my Mother's pine nightstand. 60 +
> years old, been chewed on by dogs and run over a few
> times by my Dad on his scooter and still sturdy as hell,
> as is the nightstand.

If you have slow growth, the rings will be a lot tighter and the wood
denser.

You can get salvaged "heart pine" or "long leaf pine" but it's pretty
hard to get new stuff.

Chris

Tt

Trevor

in reply to "Ivan Vegvary" on 16/03/2006 6:01 PM

20/03/2006 7:14 PM

Ivan Vegvary wrote:
> Is there any practical way of doing this? I have 160± pieces of 1"x6"x42"
> boards. Hem fir.
> Is finger jointing possible in the home shop. Willing to pay for some
> tooling. Could a commercial place 'fingerjoint' this for me for a price
> that would be less than buying equivalent amount of lumber. BTW, I live in
> the Northwest, we have some lumber mills nearby.
>
> BTW, 15 years ago I cut 3000 l.f. of custom moulding for a re-model that I
> was doing. Still have the Foley Belsaw moulder. At that time a lumber
> supplier was able to get me finger joint (not door jamb) 1" primed paint
> grade lumber for a very attractive price. Finger joint has no knots, does
> not warp (every other piece is flip-flopped) and is great to work with.
> Sure beats the mdf which turns to dust when you shape it.
>
> Thanks for ideas,
>
> Ivan Vegvary
>
>

You could also use a lock miter router/shaper bit as well. Just route
both board ends flat/horizontal and flip them... just like the funger
joint in that manner, but offers greater utility...

unless you plan on doing a lot of this joining, then a fingerjoint
cutter may be the best option.

~Trevor

Tt

Trevor

in reply to "Ivan Vegvary" on 16/03/2006 6:01 PM

20/03/2006 7:16 PM

Ivan Vegvary wrote:
> Is there any practical way of doing this? I have 160± pieces of 1"x6"x42"
> boards. Hem fir.
> Is finger jointing possible in the home shop. Willing to pay for some
> tooling. Could a commercial place 'fingerjoint' this for me for a price
> that would be less than buying equivalent amount of lumber. BTW, I live in
> the Northwest, we have some lumber mills nearby.
>
> BTW, 15 years ago I cut 3000 l.f. of custom moulding for a re-model that I
> was doing. Still have the Foley Belsaw moulder. At that time a lumber
> supplier was able to get me finger joint (not door jamb) 1" primed paint
> grade lumber for a very attractive price. Finger joint has no knots, does
> not warp (every other piece is flip-flopped) and is great to work with.
> Sure beats the mdf which turns to dust when you shape it.
>
> Thanks for ideas,
>
> Ivan Vegvary
>
>

You could also use a lock miter router/shaper bit as well. Just route
both board ends flat/horizontal and flip them... just like the funger
joint in that manner, but offers greater utility...

unless you plan on doing a lot of this joining, then a fingerjoint
cutter may be the best option.

~Trevor

Tt

Trevor

in reply to "Ivan Vegvary" on 16/03/2006 6:01 PM

21/03/2006 2:09 PM

Ivan Vegvary wrote:
> Is there any practical way of doing this? I have 160± pieces of 1"x6"x42"
> boards. Hem fir.
> Is finger jointing possible in the home shop. Willing to pay for some
> tooling. Could a commercial place 'fingerjoint' this for me for a price
> that would be less than buying equivalent amount of lumber. BTW, I live in
> the Northwest, we have some lumber mills nearby.
>
> BTW, 15 years ago I cut 3000 l.f. of custom moulding for a re-model that I
> was doing. Still have the Foley Belsaw moulder. At that time a lumber
> supplier was able to get me finger joint (not door jamb) 1" primed paint
> grade lumber for a very attractive price. Finger joint has no knots, does
> not warp (every other piece is flip-flopped) and is great to work with.
> Sure beats the mdf which turns to dust when you shape it.
>
> Thanks for ideas,
>
> Ivan Vegvary
>
>

You could also use a lock miter router/shaper bit as well. Just route
both board ends flat/horizontal and flip them... just like the funger
joint in that manner, but offers greater utility...

unless you plan on doing a lot of this joining, then a fingerjoint
cutter may be the best option.

~Trevor

Tt

Trevor

in reply to "Ivan Vegvary" on 16/03/2006 6:01 PM

21/03/2006 2:11 PM

Trevor wrote:
> Ivan Vegvary wrote:
>
>> Is there any practical way of doing this? I have 160± pieces of
>> 1"x6"x42" boards. Hem fir.
>> Is finger jointing possible in the home shop. Willing to pay for some
>> tooling. Could a commercial place 'fingerjoint' this for me for a
>> price that would be less than buying equivalent amount of lumber.
>> BTW, I live in the Northwest, we have some lumber mills nearby.
>>
>> BTW, 15 years ago I cut 3000 l.f. of custom moulding for a re-model
>> that I was doing. Still have the Foley Belsaw moulder. At that time
>> a lumber supplier was able to get me finger joint (not door jamb) 1"
>> primed paint grade lumber for a very attractive price. Finger joint
>> has no knots, does not warp (every other piece is flip-flopped) and is
>> great to work with. Sure beats the mdf which turns to dust when you
>> shape it.
>>
>> Thanks for ideas,
>>
>> Ivan Vegvary
>>
>
> You could also use a lock miter router/shaper bit as well. Just route
> both board ends flat/horizontal and flip them... just like the funger
> joint in that manner, but offers greater utility...
>
> unless you plan on doing a lot of this joining, then a fingerjoint
> cutter may be the best option.
>
> ~Trevor

sorry about the multiple posts, my email client was acting up and saying
it didn't post, but apparantly it was posting...


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