Got this email from a guy who wants me to buy from him in SPAIN and
sell in the US.
http://www.hgpro-tools.com/index.php?productID=45
This is his reply to me when I asked for the price for 5 cabinet saws
delivered to my location in the US. I dont know, but it seems a
little TO GOOD TO BE TRUE to me. Oh Ya, he wants the money up-front
and cant give me the names of any US customers due to client
confidentiality.
Scott
> For 5 DELTA 36-831A the shipping cost is $110.oo
> The price for 5 DELTA 36-831A is $2145.oo
> As payment we accept wire transfer via Western Union or bak to bak transfer for orders over $3000.oo
> Here are some of our clients adresses:
> [email protected]
> [email protected]
> [email protected]
> [email protected]
> [email protected]
> [email protected]
>
> Please confirm if this is your order
>
> Delta 36-831A x 5 ......$2145.oo
> shipping cost ............. $110.oo
> ................................................
> TOTAL.......................$2255.oo
>
> Regards,
> Eduard
Silvan <[email protected]> wrote> No, I can give you a
lot more than Dave can. Send the $2,225 to me and I
> will give you a HCoA sanding sponge and my entire collection of Harbor
> Freight lathe tools, plus a nifty box of wood shavings and a Timex watch
> with no band.
>
> Deal?
How much for all of it plus the watch band? And throw in a couple of
HCoA glue spreaders.
Eric
In article <[email protected]>, vmtw
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Got this email from a guy who wants me to buy from him in SPAIN and
> sell in the US.
> http://www.hgpro-tools.com/index.php?productID=45
> This is his reply to me when I asked for the price for 5 cabinet saws
> delivered to my location in the US. I dont know, but it seems a
> little TO GOOD TO BE TRUE to me. Oh Ya, he wants the money up-front
> and cant give me the names of any US customers due to client
> confidentiality.
Hell, if you want to throw away $2255 send it to me. You'll at least
know where it went and you'll get just as much in return!
> Are you kidding, he is high priced? I can sell them to you for $385
> delivered right to your home. I only accept cash though, so please send it
> to me in a plain envelope.
Hi Ed,
I happen to be driving your way, so I'll swing by with my cash in a
plain envelope for ya.
I expect a discount for the delivery charge!
Oh yea...I'll take 2 of em.
;->
Lou
"Todd Fatheree"
> Even if he could sell them for that price, on what planet could they be
> shipped from Spain to the US for $110? I might have trouble finding
> someone
> to ship them to the other side of town for that.
>
> Some interesting information on hgpro-tools.com. Looks like the domain
> has
> been around for an entire two weeks. Where do I send my $2255?
> Organisation Address. NC
> Organisation Address. UNITED STATES
Indeed. Although clearly a rip-off, the quality of English and chosen
target audience does strongly suggest someone from the US, using foreign
servers and services. Nifty little scam. If only I was so clever. Not
many woodworker types are going to part w/ 1500 minimum cash very easily,
though...
Why not give the guy a call:
Schein, Will
2860 Horton Road (couple houses off?)
Germanton, NC 27019
336-767-1300
Might want to hit *67 first to block caller ID.
Let us all know how the conversation goes....
- Nate
Prometheus wrote:
> number and access codes to your bank account, I'd be happy to deposit
> TEN BILLION DOLLARS into your account for safekeeping. :P
Hot damn. My account number is 867-5309-90210-911-69 and the routing number
is 10-10-220. I will keep your $10 billion safe for you, but it's going to
cost you a $500 million service fee.
--
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
http://rosegarden.sourceforge.net/tutorial/
Dave Balderstone wrote:
> Hell, if you want to throw away $2255 send it to me. You'll at least
> know where it went and you'll get just as much in return!
No, I can give you a lot more than Dave can. Send the $2,225 to me and I
will give you a HCoA sanding sponge and my entire collection of Harbor
Freight lathe tools, plus a nifty box of wood shavings and a Timex watch
with no band.
Deal?
--
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
http://rosegarden.sourceforge.net/tutorial/
On 30 Nov 2004 14:24:03 -0800, [email protected] (vmtw) wrote:
>Got this email from a guy who wants me to buy from him in SPAIN and
>sell in the US.
>http://www.hgpro-tools.com/index.php?productID=45
>This is his reply to me when I asked for the price for 5 cabinet saws
>delivered to my location in the US. I dont know, but it seems a
>little TO GOOD TO BE TRUE to me. Oh Ya, he wants the money up-front
>and cant give me the names of any US customers due to client
>confidentiality.
>Scott
Oh, I'd definately go for it- but first, I'd like to help me move some
large sums of money out of Nigeria. Your name was given to me as
someone trustworthy, so if you could just send along the routing
number and access codes to your bank account, I'd be happy to deposit
TEN BILLION DOLLARS into your account for safekeeping. :P
>> For 5 DELTA 36-831A the shipping cost is $110.oo
>> The price for 5 DELTA 36-831A is $2145.oo
>> As payment we accept wire transfer via Western Union or bak to bak transfer for orders over $3000.oo
>> Here are some of our clients adresses:
>> [email protected]
>> [email protected]
>> [email protected]
>> [email protected]
>> [email protected]
>> [email protected]
>>
>> Please confirm if this is your order
>>
>> Delta 36-831A x 5 ......$2145.oo
>> shipping cost ............. $110.oo
>> ................................................
>> TOTAL.......................$2255.oo
>>
>> Regards,
>> Eduard
Aut inveniam viam aut faciam
"vmtw" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Got this email from a guy who wants me to buy from him in SPAIN and
> sell in the US.
> http://www.hgpro-tools.com/index.php?productID=45
> This is his reply to me when I asked for the price for 5 cabinet saws
> delivered to my location in the US. I dont know, but it seems a
> little TO GOOD TO BE TRUE to me. Oh Ya, he wants the money up-front
> and cant give me the names of any US customers due to client
> confidentiality.
Are you kidding, he is high priced? I can sell them to you for $385
delivered right to your home. I only accept cash though, so please send it
to me in a plain envelope.
I await your reply and the cash in the mail.
Sounds good to me ,by the way I have a bridge I would like to sell cheap!!
Len
"vmtw" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Got this email from a guy who wants me to buy from him in SPAIN and
> sell in the US.
> http://www.hgpro-tools.com/index.php?productID=45
> This is his reply to me when I asked for the price for 5 cabinet saws
> delivered to my location in the US. I dont know, but it seems a
> little TO GOOD TO BE TRUE to me. Oh Ya, he wants the money up-front
> and cant give me the names of any US customers due to client
> confidentiality.
> Scott
>> For 5 DELTA 36-831A the shipping cost is $110.oo
>> The price for 5 DELTA 36-831A is $2145.oo
>> As payment we accept wire transfer via Western Union or bak to bak
>> transfer for orders over $3000.oo
>> Here are some of our clients adresses:
>> [email protected]
>> [email protected]
>> [email protected]
>> [email protected]
>> [email protected]
>> [email protected]
>>
>> Please confirm if this is your order
>>
>> Delta 36-831A x 5 ......$2145.oo
>> shipping cost ............. $110.oo
>> ................................................
>> TOTAL.......................$2255.oo
>>
>> Regards,
>> Eduard
"AAvK" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> TWO WEEKS and the site says "we can no longer accept credit cards due to
> fraud".
> WHAT a load of rip off crap!
>
> Alex
Well, yes. They could not defraud you with a CC!
AAvK wrote:
> <snip>
>
>
>He's TOTALLY lying to you, trying to rip_you_off. There is no way any seller
>would give you their customers email addresses and they would not all be
>web mail addresses either. There is no way anyone in "Spain" would be selling
>unisaws at that price to US customers through a website designed and targeted
>at US customers. DO NOT DO IT!
>
>I have read about Spain, it is a country LOADED with criminal activity, such as,
>a LOT of prostitution slavery that is illegal, the law system and police work is
>extremely lax there.
>
>Also notice he did NOT state that he accepts credit cards? ONLY wire bank transfers?
>That is cash of the barrel for him, and he disappears my friend.
>
>Alex
>
>
>
>
This sounds similar to the Nigerian scams ( see www.ebolamonkeyman.com
amongst others.) Another to be aware of that is hitting our classic
bicycle sellers on eBay, is when they offer (off of eBay) for a large
dollar item. They send you a money order for much more than what was
agreed to and ask you to send back the overage ( a grand or two.)
Problem is, the original money order was no good. So now they have your
product plus a couple grand. Not sure how well it works these days
since the new law went into effect allowing banks to instantly transfer
money as opposed to a check hold.
Bottom line, if someone comes to you with something that seems to be to
good to be true, it usually is!
"Todd Fatheree" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> "vmtw" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Got this email from a guy who wants me to buy from him in SPAIN and
> > sell in the US.
> > http://www.hgpro-tools.com/index.php?productID=45
> > This is his reply to me when I asked for the price for 5 cabinet saws
> > delivered to my location in the US. I dont know, but it seems a
> > little TO GOOD TO BE TRUE to me. Oh Ya, he wants the money up-front
> > and cant give me the names of any US customers due to client
> > confidentiality.
> > Scott
> > > For 5 DELTA 36-831A the shipping cost is $110.oo
> > > The price for 5 DELTA 36-831A is $2145.oo
> > > As payment we accept wire transfer via Western Union or bak to bak
> transfer for orders over $3000.oo
> > > Here are some of our clients adresses:
> > > [email protected]
> > > [email protected]
> > > [email protected]
> > > [email protected]
> > > [email protected]
> > > [email protected]
> > >
> > > Please confirm if this is your order
> > >
> > > Delta 36-831A x 5 ......$2145.oo
> > > shipping cost ............. $110.oo
> > > ................................................
> > > TOTAL.......................$2255.oo
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Eduard
>
> Even if he could sell them for that price, on what planet could they be
> shipped from Spain to the US for $110? I might have trouble finding someone
> to ship them to the other side of town for that.
>
> Some interesting information on hgpro-tools.com. Looks like the domain has
> been around for an entire two weeks. Where do I send my $2255?
>
> Domain Name.......... hgpro-tools.com
> Creation Date........ 2004-11-15
> Registration Date.... 2004-11-15
> Expiry Date.......... 2005-11-15
> Organisation Name.... Will Schien
> Organisation Address. 2872 Horton Rd.
> Organisation Address.
> Organisation Address. Germanton
> Organisation Address. 27019
> Organisation Address. NC
> Organisation Address. UNITED STATES
>
> Admin Name........... Will Schien
> Admin Address........ 2872 Horton Rd.
> Admin Address........
> Admin Address........ Germanton
> Admin Address........ 27019
> Admin Address........ NC
> Admin Address........ UNITED STATES
> Admin Email.......... [email protected]
> Admin Phone.......... +1.3454951462
>
>
> todd
I sent an email to the NC Attorney General, I will let you know what they say.
> Even if he could sell them for that price, on what planet could they be
> shipped from Spain to the US for $110? I might have trouble finding someone
> to ship them to the other side of town for that.
> Some interesting information on hgpro-tools.com. Looks like the domain has
> been around for an entire two weeks. Where do I send my $2255?
> Domain Name.......... hgpro-tools.com
> Creation Date........ 2004-11-15
> Registration Date.... 2004-11-15
> Expiry Date.......... 2005-11-15
> Organisation Name.... Will Schien
> Organisation Address. 2872 Horton Rd.
> Organisation Address.
> Organisation Address. Germanton
> Organisation Address. 27019
> Organisation Address. NC
> Organisation Address. UNITED STATES
> Admin Name........... Will Schien
> Admin Address........ 2872 Horton Rd.
> Admin Address........
> Admin Address........ Germanton
> Admin Address........ 27019
> Admin Address........ NC
> Admin Address........ UNITED STATES
> Admin Email.......... [email protected]
> Admin Phone.......... +1.3454951462
> todd
>
>
TWO WEEKS and the site says "we can no longer accept credit cards due to fraud".
WHAT a load of rip off crap!
Alex
"vmtw" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> Got this email from a guy who wants me to buy from him in SPAIN and
> sell in the US.
> http://www.hgpro-tools.com/index.php?productID=45
> This is his reply to me when I asked for the price for 5 cabinet saws
> delivered to my location in the US. I dont know, but it seems a
> little TO GOOD TO BE TRUE to me. Oh Ya, he wants the money up-front
> and cant give me the names of any US customers due to client
> confidentiality.
> Scott
> > For 5 DELTA 36-831A the shipping cost is $110.oo
> > The price for 5 DELTA 36-831A is $2145.oo
> > As payment we accept wire transfer via Western Union or bak to bak transfer for orders over $3000.oo
> > Here are some of our clients adresses:
> > [email protected]
> > [email protected]
> > [email protected]
> > [email protected]
> > [email protected]
> > [email protected]
> >
> > Please confirm if this is your order
> >
> > Delta 36-831A x 5 ......$2145.oo
> > shipping cost ............. $110.oo
> > ................................................
> > TOTAL.......................$2255.oo
> >
> > Regards,
> > Eduard
He's TOTALLY lying to you, trying to rip_you_off. There is no way any seller
would give you their customers email addresses and they would not all be
web mail addresses either. There is no way anyone in "Spain" would be selling
unisaws at that price to US customers through a website designed and targeted
at US customers. DO NOT DO IT!
I have read about Spain, it is a country LOADED with criminal activity, such as,
a LOT of prostitution slavery that is illegal, the law system and police work is
extremely lax there.
Also notice he did NOT state that he accepts credit cards? ONLY wire bank transfers?
That is cash of the barrel for him, and he disappears my friend.
Alex
I've spent a lot of time in southern Spain and the Malaga address of the
firm in question is in the Costa Del Sol. This area was a common hangout of
European criminals who went there because of lax law enforcement and
sunshine. Moreover, why would a Spanish company offer such favorable prices
on an American product?
Good luck,
TEF
"AAvK" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:iE6rd.160718$bk1.122926@fed1read05...
>
> "vmtw" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> > Got this email from a guy who wants me to buy from him in SPAIN and
> > sell in the US.
> > http://www.hgpro-tools.com/index.php?productID=45
> > This is his reply to me when I asked for the price for 5 cabinet saws
> > delivered to my location in the US. I dont know, but it seems a
> > little TO GOOD TO BE TRUE to me. Oh Ya, he wants the money up-front
> > and cant give me the names of any US customers due to client
> > confidentiality.
> > Scott
> > > For 5 DELTA 36-831A the shipping cost is $110.oo
> > > The price for 5 DELTA 36-831A is $2145.oo
> > > As payment we accept wire transfer via Western Union or bak to bak
transfer for orders over $3000.oo
> > > Here are some of our clients adresses:
> > > [email protected]
> > > [email protected]
> > > [email protected]
> > > [email protected]
> > > [email protected]
> > > [email protected]
> > >
> > > Please confirm if this is your order
> > >
> > > Delta 36-831A x 5 ......$2145.oo
> > > shipping cost ............. $110.oo
> > > ................................................
> > > TOTAL.......................$2255.oo
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Eduard
>
>
> He's TOTALLY lying to you, trying to rip_you_off. There is no way any
seller
> would give you their customers email addresses and they would not all be
> web mail addresses either. There is no way anyone in "Spain" would be
selling
> unisaws at that price to US customers through a website designed and
targeted
> at US customers. DO NOT DO IT!
>
> I have read about Spain, it is a country LOADED with criminal activity,
such as,
> a LOT of prostitution slavery that is illegal, the law system and police
work is
> extremely lax there.
>
> Also notice he did NOT state that he accepts credit cards? ONLY wire bank
transfers?
> That is cash of the barrel for him, and he disappears my friend.
>
> Alex
>
>
"Nate" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Indeed. Although clearly a rip-off, the quality of English and chosen
> target audience does strongly suggest someone from the US, using foreign
> servers and services. Nifty little scam. If only I was so clever. Not
> many woodworker types are going to part w/ 1500 minimum cash very easily,
> though...
Funny thing is that it appears that the web server is actually in the US.
It belongs to Yahoo, and as best as I can figure from a traceroute, the web
server itself is in California.
To add even more humor, I took a chance and Googled their supposed address.
I located a Flemenco Dance Studio in Malaga, Spain.
Escuela Flamenca, c/ Flores García 2o Bloque 3-D, E-29 Malaga, 952 / 31 18
81
For reference, Pro Home & Garden Tools' address and phone number from their
web site is
Flores García 2o Bloque 3-D, E-29 Malaga,, 29006 , 952 / 31 18 81
So, either this is a combo Flamenco dance studio/tool supply or they just
picked an address out of a hat.
todd
On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 20:22:40 -0700, "Nate" <[email protected]> wrote:
If I'm in NJ, I would give him a nice Christmas holiday by calling the DA.
>
>"Todd Fatheree"
>
>> Even if he could sell them for that price, on what planet could they be
>> shipped from Spain to the US for $110? I might have trouble finding
>> someone
>> to ship them to the other side of town for that.
>>
>> Some interesting information on hgpro-tools.com. Looks like the domain
>> has
>> been around for an entire two weeks. Where do I send my $2255?
>
>> Organisation Address. NC
>> Organisation Address. UNITED STATES
>
>
>Indeed. Although clearly a rip-off, the quality of English and chosen
>target audience does strongly suggest someone from the US, using foreign
>servers and services. Nifty little scam. If only I was so clever. Not
>many woodworker types are going to part w/ 1500 minimum cash very easily,
>though...
>
>Why not give the guy a call:
>
>Schein, Will
>2860 Horton Road (couple houses off?)
>Germanton, NC 27019
>336-767-1300
>
>Might want to hit *67 first to block caller ID.
>
>Let us all know how the conversation goes....
>
>
>
>
>- Nate
>
>
>
"vmtw" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Got this email from a guy who wants me to buy from him in SPAIN and
> sell in the US.
> http://www.hgpro-tools.com/index.php?productID=45
> This is his reply to me when I asked for the price for 5 cabinet saws
> delivered to my location in the US. I dont know, but it seems a
> little TO GOOD TO BE TRUE to me. Oh Ya, he wants the money up-front
> and cant give me the names of any US customers due to client
> confidentiality.
> Scott
> > For 5 DELTA 36-831A the shipping cost is $110.oo
> > The price for 5 DELTA 36-831A is $2145.oo
> > As payment we accept wire transfer via Western Union or bak to bak
transfer for orders over $3000.oo
> > Here are some of our clients adresses:
> > [email protected]
> > [email protected]
> > [email protected]
> > [email protected]
> > [email protected]
> > [email protected]
> >
> > Please confirm if this is your order
> >
> > Delta 36-831A x 5 ......$2145.oo
> > shipping cost ............. $110.oo
> > ................................................
> > TOTAL.......................$2255.oo
> >
> > Regards,
> > Eduard
Even if he could sell them for that price, on what planet could they be
shipped from Spain to the US for $110? I might have trouble finding someone
to ship them to the other side of town for that.
Some interesting information on hgpro-tools.com. Looks like the domain has
been around for an entire two weeks. Where do I send my $2255?
Domain Name.......... hgpro-tools.com
Creation Date........ 2004-11-15
Registration Date.... 2004-11-15
Expiry Date.......... 2005-11-15
Organisation Name.... Will Schien
Organisation Address. 2872 Horton Rd.
Organisation Address.
Organisation Address. Germanton
Organisation Address. 27019
Organisation Address. NC
Organisation Address. UNITED STATES
Admin Name........... Will Schien
Admin Address........ 2872 Horton Rd.
Admin Address........
Admin Address........ Germanton
Admin Address........ 27019
Admin Address........ NC
Admin Address........ UNITED STATES
Admin Email.......... [email protected]
Admin Phone.......... +1.3454951462
todd