jm

[email protected] (mauiboy)

09/08/2003 6:48 PM

Dewalt compressor and Safety

Just got my new D55155 compressor and read the following on the first
page of the instruction manual:

"Some dust created by this product contains chemicals known to the
State of California to cause cancer, birth defects or other
reproductive hram. Some exmaple of these chemicals are: compounds in
fertilizer, compounts in insecticides, herbicides and pesticides,
arsenic and chromium from chemically treated lumber. To reduce your
exposure to these chemicals, wear approved safety equipment such as
dust masks that are specially designed to filter out microscopic
particles."

What the heck!!! I didn't know I needed to wear a HAZMAT suit just to
shoot a few brads. I work in my enclosed basement. Should I worry
about this? thanks..


This topic has 10 replies

MS

Mark & Shauna

in reply to [email protected] (mauiboy) on 09/08/2003 6:48 PM

10/08/2003 2:27 AM

I wonder if its the lub oil from the compressor crankcase? I cant think
of what would come out of the compressor itself that they would be
legally obligated to warn you about.

I dont think they have a legal obligation to warn you that when you
shoot a nail or blow something off the dust kicked up (all dust is bad)
can cause you cancer. I cant imagine how many people over the years have
blown off brake dust with their compressors which is nasty stuff. That
said, the compressor manufacturer wouldnt be liable (sure some lawyer
could find a way though).

My guess would be the oil in the compressor but its only a guess. Just
like a car engine a compressor burns very small amounts of oil when it
runs (and I mean very small in a compressor, especially a new one). In
the case of a compressor the "exhaust" is the air you are using to power
your tool. So this exhaust has all the byproducts of manufacturing the air.

Mark

mauiboy wrote:
> Just got my new D55155 compressor and read the following on the first
> page of the instruction manual:
>
> "Some dust created by this product contains chemicals known to the
> State of California to cause cancer, birth defects or other
> reproductive hram. Some exmaple of these chemicals are: compounds in
> fertilizer, compounts in insecticides, herbicides and pesticides,
> arsenic and chromium from chemically treated lumber. To reduce your
> exposure to these chemicals, wear approved safety equipment such as
> dust masks that are specially designed to filter out microscopic
> particles."
>
> What the heck!!! I didn't know I needed to wear a HAZMAT suit just to
> shoot a few brads. I work in my enclosed basement. Should I worry
> about this? thanks..

MS

Mark & Shauna

in reply to [email protected] (mauiboy) on 09/08/2003 6:48 PM

10/08/2003 3:01 AM

Oh, completely agreed, was not insinuating in any way that cancer would
arise from the compressor use. I was just wondering what in the
compresssor itself could be the case. I suppose the rubberized handle
could be it or something... I would still guess its mainly the burnt
lube oil.

Mark

BillyBob wrote:
> The warning is a result of the "Fruits, Nuts & Flakes" in the Breakfast
> Cereal State of California (socialist state might be more realistic) - You
> are liable if you do not post such drivel - I am working on a project that
> we have to provide the same warning about a regular AC power cable -
> possible cancer causing since it is made from PVC (the only way to ingest
> the "potentially") damaging agent is by chewing - doubt the possibility of
> cancer will kill them - most likely biting down on a 120VAC live circuit
> might help them on their way.....
>
> Just about every product except food (that may be coming) that is sold in
> California has such labeling. Your tax dollars at work.
>
> BillyBob
>
>
>>mauiboy wrote:
>>
>>>Just got my new D55155 compressor and read the following on the first
>>>page of the instruction manual:
>>>
>>>"Some dust created by this product contains chemicals known to the
>>>State of California to cause cancer, birth defects or other
>>>reproductive hram. Some exmaple of these chemicals are: compounds in
>>>fertilizer, compounts in insecticides, herbicides and pesticides,
>>>arsenic and chromium from chemically treated lumber. To reduce your
>>>exposure to these chemicals, wear approved safety equipment such as
>>>dust masks that are specially designed to filter out microscopic
>>>particles."
>>>
>>>What the heck!!! I didn't know I needed to wear a HAZMAT suit just to
>>>shoot a few brads. I work in my enclosed basement. Should I worry
>>>about this? thanks..
>>
>
>

jm

[email protected] (mauiboy)

in reply to [email protected] (mauiboy) on 09/08/2003 6:48 PM

10/08/2003 7:00 AM

It's a bad habit I've developed......for some reason I ALWAYS read the
manual.

I guess one could assume that these "safety issues" are true of all
compressors. If the burnt lube oil is the problem....I wonder if the
oiless compressors would be safer?






"tailslid1" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> No reason for alarm. That is a standard cover their ass paragraph.
>
> Air compressors do pass a certain amount of lubricating oil into the tank,
> and some of this could pass into the ambient air. We are talking about
> exceedingly small amounts, but there is a possibility. Broken down oil vapor
> is potentially toxic in high enough quantities.
>
> I suppose the compressor could potentially pass through it particulates used
> in painting the product, welding products used in construction, broken down
> plastics from the filters, etc., etc, etc. Theoretically, almost anything is
> possible in small enough quantities.
>
> One thing I've found with DeWalt more so than all the rest of the tool
> manufacturers is that DeWalt obviously has a large team of lawyers that has
> a hand in all their marketing releases, manuals, and literature. They
> certainly attempt to cover their butts from all directions.
>
> And what in God's name are you doing reading the manual?!?!?!
>
> I can see looking at the pictures, but actually READING?!?!?!
>
> hahahaha
>
> Rick
>
>
> "mauiboy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Just got my new D55155 compressor and read the following on the first
> > page of the instruction manual:
> >
> > "Some dust created by this product contains chemicals known to the
> > State of California to cause cancer, birth defects or other
> > reproductive hram. Some exmaple of these chemicals are: compounds in
> > fertilizer, compounts in insecticides, herbicides and pesticides,
> > arsenic and chromium from chemically treated lumber. To reduce your
> > exposure to these chemicals, wear approved safety equipment such as
> > dust masks that are specially designed to filter out microscopic
> > particles."
> >
> > What the heck!!! I didn't know I needed to wear a HAZMAT suit just to
> > shoot a few brads. I work in my enclosed basement. Should I worry
> > about this? thanks..

AD

Andy Dingley

in reply to [email protected] (mauiboy) on 09/08/2003 6:48 PM

11/08/2003 9:16 AM

On Sun, 10 Aug 2003 13:40:38 GMT, bonomi@c-ns. (Robert Bonomi) wrote:

>They require similar warnings on _hammers_. Claw hammers, not just air ones.

Klown hammers ? If ever there was a state that needed a few.

bR

bonomi@c-ns. (Robert Bonomi)

in reply to [email protected] (mauiboy) on 09/08/2003 6:48 PM

10/08/2003 1:40 PM

In article <[email protected]>, Mark & Shauna <[email protected]> wrote:
>I wonder if its the lub oil from the compressor crankcase? I cant think
>of what would come out of the compressor itself that they would be
>legally obligated to warn you about.

In _California_, they have to worry about _anything_ in the air path,
that might grind down with wear. cylinder pistons, piston rings, gaskets,
valves, etc. etc., ad nauseum. And, any of the 'plumbing' that might
shed particulates. AND/OR any water 'scale' that might collect in the
tank.

They require similar warnings on _hammers_. Claw hammers, not just air ones.


>My guess would be the oil in the compressor but its only a guess. Just
>like a car engine a compressor burns very small amounts of oil when it
>runs (and I mean very small in a compressor, especially a new one). In
>the case of a compressor the "exhaust" is the air you are using to power
>your tool. So this exhaust has all the byproducts of manufacturing the air.
>
>Mark
>
>mauiboy wrote:
>> Just got my new D55155 compressor and read the following on the first
>> page of the instruction manual:
>>
>> "Some dust created by this product contains chemicals known to the
>> State of California to cause cancer, birth defects or other
>> reproductive hram. Some exmaple of these chemicals are: compounds in
>> fertilizer, compounts in insecticides, herbicides and pesticides,
>> arsenic and chromium from chemically treated lumber. To reduce your
>> exposure to these chemicals, wear approved safety equipment such as
>> dust masks that are specially designed to filter out microscopic
>> particles."
>>
>> What the heck!!! I didn't know I needed to wear a HAZMAT suit just to
>> shoot a few brads. I work in my enclosed basement. Should I worry
>> about this? thanks..
>

tt

"tailslid1"

in reply to [email protected] (mauiboy) on 09/08/2003 6:48 PM

10/08/2003 4:26 PM

The amount of auto fumes you breathe by driving is 100 fold what you'd get
from whatever small amount of emissions that may or may not be coming from
your air compressor.

Don't go oil-less. In the long run, your DeWalt will last much much longer.

Rick


"mauiboy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> It's a bad habit I've developed......for some reason I ALWAYS read the
> manual.
>
> I guess one could assume that these "safety issues" are true of all
> compressors. If the burnt lube oil is the problem....I wonder if the
> oiless compressors would be safer?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "tailslid1" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
> > No reason for alarm. That is a standard cover their ass paragraph.
> >
> > Air compressors do pass a certain amount of lubricating oil into the
tank,
> > and some of this could pass into the ambient air. We are talking about
> > exceedingly small amounts, but there is a possibility. Broken down oil
vapor
> > is potentially toxic in high enough quantities.
> >
> > I suppose the compressor could potentially pass through it particulates
used
> > in painting the product, welding products used in construction, broken
down
> > plastics from the filters, etc., etc, etc. Theoretically, almost
anything is
> > possible in small enough quantities.
> >
> > One thing I've found with DeWalt more so than all the rest of the tool
> > manufacturers is that DeWalt obviously has a large team of lawyers that
has
> > a hand in all their marketing releases, manuals, and literature. They
> > certainly attempt to cover their butts from all directions.
> >
> > And what in God's name are you doing reading the manual?!?!?!
> >
> > I can see looking at the pictures, but actually READING?!?!?!
> >
> > hahahaha
> >
> > Rick
> >
> >
> > "mauiboy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > Just got my new D55155 compressor and read the following on the first
> > > page of the instruction manual:
> > >
> > > "Some dust created by this product contains chemicals known to the
> > > State of California to cause cancer, birth defects or other
> > > reproductive hram. Some exmaple of these chemicals are: compounds in
> > > fertilizer, compounts in insecticides, herbicides and pesticides,
> > > arsenic and chromium from chemically treated lumber. To reduce your
> > > exposure to these chemicals, wear approved safety equipment such as
> > > dust masks that are specially designed to filter out microscopic
> > > particles."
> > >
> > > What the heck!!! I didn't know I needed to wear a HAZMAT suit just to
> > > shoot a few brads. I work in my enclosed basement. Should I worry
> > > about this? thanks..

c

in reply to [email protected] (mauiboy) on 09/08/2003 6:48 PM

10/08/2003 10:46 PM



[email protected] (mauiboy) wrote:

>Just got my new D55155 compressor and read the following on the first
>page of the instruction manual:
>
>"Some dust created by this product contains chemicals known to the
>State of California to cause cancer, birth defects or other
>reproductive hram. Some exmaple of these chemicals are: compounds in
>fertilizer, compounts in insecticides, herbicides and pesticides,
>arsenic and chromium from chemically treated lumber. To reduce your
>exposure to these chemicals, wear approved safety equipment such as
>dust masks that are specially designed to filter out microscopic
>particles."
>
[snip]



I have the same message on some castors I bought to build a mobile
base with. Go figure.

Wes

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BN

"BillyBob"

in reply to [email protected] (mauiboy) on 09/08/2003 6:48 PM

10/08/2003 2:45 AM

The warning is a result of the "Fruits, Nuts & Flakes" in the Breakfast
Cereal State of California (socialist state might be more realistic) - You
are liable if you do not post such drivel - I am working on a project that
we have to provide the same warning about a regular AC power cable -
possible cancer causing since it is made from PVC (the only way to ingest
the "potentially") damaging agent is by chewing - doubt the possibility of
cancer will kill them - most likely biting down on a 120VAC live circuit
might help them on their way.....

Just about every product except food (that may be coming) that is sold in
California has such labeling. Your tax dollars at work.

BillyBob

> mauiboy wrote:
> > Just got my new D55155 compressor and read the following on the first
> > page of the instruction manual:
> >
> > "Some dust created by this product contains chemicals known to the
> > State of California to cause cancer, birth defects or other
> > reproductive hram. Some exmaple of these chemicals are: compounds in
> > fertilizer, compounts in insecticides, herbicides and pesticides,
> > arsenic and chromium from chemically treated lumber. To reduce your
> > exposure to these chemicals, wear approved safety equipment such as
> > dust masks that are specially designed to filter out microscopic
> > particles."
> >
> > What the heck!!! I didn't know I needed to wear a HAZMAT suit just to
> > shoot a few brads. I work in my enclosed basement. Should I worry
> > about this? thanks..
>

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to [email protected] (mauiboy) on 09/08/2003 6:48 PM

10/08/2003 3:16 PM

This is a problem in Cal i forn i a only...And you know what kinds of
problems Californians have. ;~)


"mauiboy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Just got my new D55155 compressor and read the following on the first
> page of the instruction manual:
>
> "Some dust created by this product contains chemicals known to the
> State of California to cause cancer, birth defects or other
> reproductive hram. Some exmaple of these chemicals are: compounds in
> fertilizer, compounts in insecticides, herbicides and pesticides,
> arsenic and chromium from chemically treated lumber. To reduce your
> exposure to these chemicals, wear approved safety equipment such as
> dust masks that are specially designed to filter out microscopic
> particles."
>
> What the heck!!! I didn't know I needed to wear a HAZMAT suit just to
> shoot a few brads. I work in my enclosed basement. Should I worry
> about this? thanks..

DB

"David Binkowski"

in reply to [email protected] (mauiboy) on 09/08/2003 6:48 PM

11/08/2003 11:19 PM

Consumer protection crap is way out of hand in Kalifornia.
The day I know its time to get off this planet is when I go to
my garage and unsheath my shiny new chainsaw, only to see
words emblazoned on the steel:
"Warning! Do not eat."

If that day ever comes, I'm outta here...

--
The software said it ran under Windows 98/NT/2000, or better.
So I installed it on Linux...
"Robert Bonomi" <bonomi@c-ns.> wrote in message
news:wTrZa.37023$A%[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> mauiboy <[email protected]> wrote:
> >Just got my new D55155 compressor and read the following on the first
> >page of the instruction manual:
> >
> >"Some dust created by this product contains chemicals known to the
> >State of California to cause cancer, birth defects or other
> >reproductive hram. Some exmaple of these chemicals are: compounds in
> >fertilizer, compounts in insecticides, herbicides and pesticides,
> >arsenic and chromium from chemically treated lumber. To reduce your
> >exposure to these chemicals, wear approved safety equipment such as
> >dust masks that are specially designed to filter out microscopic
> >particles."
> >
> >What the heck!!! I didn't know I needed to wear a HAZMAT suit just to
> >shoot a few brads. I work in my enclosed basement. Should I worry
> >about this? thanks..
>
> You'll find that label on practically *anything* in Calif. Including
> claw hammers.
>
> they went _way_ overboard with the warning requirement. 99.9995% (at
least)
> of the time, the 'risk' is microscopic, if not smaller. In the rare case
> where there might be an appreciable risk, the caution will, in all
liklihood
> be utterly ignored, due to the millions of other 'false positive'
warnings.
>
>


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