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david

27/07/2004 10:39 AM

kiln dried question?

Hi,

I am going to use 5/4 mangaris for a deck and porch I am building. I
want to use the Eb-Ty hidden fasteners with it. Spozedly the wood was
shipped kiln dried to 8-12%, but it has been sitting in a big, mostly
open warehouse for 6 months, the last 2 of which have been very rainy
(Greenville, SC). Will the wood have absorbed moisture under these
conditions?

Obviously, a tester is the only way to know, but I don't have one. It
is important as it determines the spacing between the boards. With KD,
1/4" is recommended, for air dried 3/32"...Eb-Ty makes 2 different clips
to acheive those results.

Any thoughts or advice? Any recommendations on a moisture meter?

thanks,

david


This topic has 5 replies

JJ

JGS

in reply to david on 27/07/2004 10:39 AM

27/07/2004 7:24 AM

Yes it has changed. The moisture content will go up and down during the
year as relative humidity changes. That is true of all wood. Cheers, JG

david wrote:

> Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
>
> n
> >
> > So, you mean that sitting in the warehouse it is no longer kiln dried?
> >
> >
> edwin,
>
> thanks for the reply...
>
> yes, that is my question...can I expect that the moisture content has
> risen from 8-12% since it was not kept in a climate controlled
> environment?
>
> david

TH

"Thomas H. Bunetta"

in reply to david on 27/07/2004 10:39 AM

27/07/2004 8:19 AM

I don't have a link handy, but Googling will find a table of the various
woods movements, some move a lot more than others...
Discussions on which meters have been done a number of times, a search would
help there as well.
As others have stated, movement is inherent with wood and I would go with a
"worst case scenario" if planning the spacing (allow for max. width when
wet, and settle for the gaps when dry).
Tom
"david" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi,
>
> I am going to use 5/4 mangaris for a deck and porch I am building. I
> want to use the Eb-Ty hidden fasteners with it. Spozedly the wood was
> shipped kiln dried to 8-12%, but it has been sitting in a big, mostly
> open warehouse for 6 months, the last 2 of which have been very rainy
> (Greenville, SC). Will the wood have absorbed moisture under these
> conditions?
>
> Obviously, a tester is the only way to know, but I don't have one. It
> is important as it determines the spacing between the boards. With KD,
> 1/4" is recommended, for air dried 3/32"...Eb-Ty makes 2 different clips
> to acheive those results.
>
> Any thoughts or advice? Any recommendations on a moisture meter?
>
> thanks,
>
> david
>

Cs

Craig

in reply to david on 27/07/2004 10:39 AM

27/07/2004 7:14 AM

Thomas H. Bunetta wrote:

> I don't have a link handy, but Googling will find a table of the various
> woods movements, some move a lot more than others...
> Discussions on which meters have been done a number of times, a search would
> help there as well.
> As others have stated, movement is inherent with wood and I would go with a
> "worst case scenario" if planning the spacing (allow for max. width when
> wet, and settle for the gaps when dry).
> Tom

LOL - I doubt that I'd have much knowledge to contribute to this group
that most folks would not know way more - but I got a funny story or two.
A neighbor built a board fence and did not leave any spacing at all.
Maybe he had seen board fence that someone built up the hill further and
painted black. As a privacy thing that one up the hill was like watching
a flickering old time movie when driving by. Person later painted it
white and then one could not see the nice bikini clad butt strolling
about the yard anymore. ;-(
Oh well.
The no space fence was a chuckle right off. Come winter it must have
warped well over a foot one way and the other aside from pushing a lot
of board plumb off the 2x4's.

Wish the fellow had built a deck and I'd gotten around to taking
pictures of the whole mess.
--
We might have to disrupt the democratic process because the terrorists
might try to disrupt the democratic process.

dp

david

in reply to david on 27/07/2004 10:39 AM

27/07/2004 10:59 AM



Edwin Pawlowski wrote:

n
>
> So, you mean that sitting in the warehouse it is no longer kiln dried?
>
>
edwin,

thanks for the reply...

yes, that is my question...can I expect that the moisture content has
risen from 8-12% since it was not kept in a climate controlled
environment?

david

EP

"Edwin Pawlowski"

in reply to david on 27/07/2004 10:39 AM

27/07/2004 10:45 AM


"david" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi,
>
> I am going to use 5/4 mangaris for a deck and porch I am building. I
> want to use the Eb-Ty hidden fasteners with it. Spozedly the wood was
> shipped kiln dried to 8-12%, but it has been sitting in a big, mostly
> open warehouse for 6 months, the last 2 of which have been very rainy
> (Greenville, SC). Will the wood have absorbed moisture under these
> conditions?

No more that if it was sitting on your deck in the rain.


>
> Obviously, a tester is the only way to know, but I don't have one. It
> is important as it determines the spacing between the boards. With KD,
> 1/4" is recommended, for air dried 3/32"...Eb-Ty makes 2 different clips
> to acheive those results.

So, you mean that sitting in the warehouse it is no longer kiln dried?


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