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"David Emerson"

05/07/2005 6:51 PM

MDF

I am new to woodworking and would like to use MDF for a book case. I have
read that there can be some health issues with the dust when cutting the
sheets and want to know how others deal with the dust. What precautions
should I take in addition to a dust mask and eye protection?

Thanks in advance for your help.


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mac davis

in reply to "David Emerson" on 05/07/2005 6:51 PM

06/07/2005 10:10 AM

On Tue, 5 Jul 2005 18:51:27 -0400, "David Emerson" <[email protected]> wrote:

>I am new to woodworking and would like to use MDF for a book case. I have
>read that there can be some health issues with the dust when cutting the
>sheets and want to know how others deal with the dust. What precautions
>should I take in addition to a dust mask and eye protection?
>
>Thanks in advance for your help.
>
As others have said, make MDF your last choice... if ya have to use it, consider
making the "box" out of MDF and real wood for the shelves..

PLEASE.. if you do use MDF (or "particle board") use a real dust mask, not one
of those paper things with the elastic band and nose clip... they're for garden
clippings, not potentially harmful dust from laminates... YMMV

Also, if you don't have dust collection, be very careful with the dust that's
going to be all over your shop... especially if you have kids..


mac

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MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to "David Emerson" on 05/07/2005 6:51 PM

05/07/2005 9:36 PM


"David Emerson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I am new to woodworking and would like to use MDF for a book case. I have
> read that there can be some health issues with the dust when cutting the
> sheets and want to know how others deal with the dust. What precautions
> should I take in addition to a dust mask and eye protection?
>
> Thanks in advance for your help.
>
>

The best advice I can give Dave, is don't use MDF. It's termite crap and
glue. Wood isn't going to cost you that much more and when you're done
you'll have something that won't crumple at the slightest bump or swell with
a little moisture. Not to mention, wood will actually carry the weight of
books - MDF won't carry its own weight.

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

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mac davis

in reply to "David Emerson" on 05/07/2005 6:51 PM

07/07/2005 9:18 AM

On Wed, 06 Jul 2005 19:57:25 GMT, Pat Barber <[email protected]>
wrote:

Pat.. my point was that you need a mask when cutting or sanding either one...
Also, hardboard dust can really set off some folks hay fever..

>Not to be too picky, but particle board is not MDF
>and MDF is not particle board.
>
>http://www.awi-wa.com/OVERLAY_PROD.htm#PARTICLEBOARD
>
>Anybody cutting any wood should be concerned with
>dust collection, with or without kids.
>
>
>mac davis wrote:
>
>
>> As others have said, make MDF your last choice... if ya have to use it, consider
>> making the "box" out of MDF and real wood for the shelves..
>>
>> PLEASE.. if you do use MDF (or "particle board") use a real dust mask, not one
>> of those paper things with the elastic band and nose clip... they're for garden
>> clippings, not potentially harmful dust from laminates... YMMV
>>
>> Also, if you don't have dust collection, be very careful with the dust that's
>> going to be all over your shop... especially if you have kids..



mac

Please remove splinters before emailing

PB

Pat Barber

in reply to "David Emerson" on 05/07/2005 6:51 PM

06/07/2005 2:37 PM

A basic dust mask and good dust collection.

You should also go to the trouble of getting
the "correct" wood screws for the project.

Check with the folks at http://www.mcfeelys.com/

Biscuits are also excellent for mdf.

Here is a great looking library made from nothing but
mdf....

You will hear about how terrible mdf is and
that you can't build anything with it.

http://www.twistedknotwoodshop.com/laurioffice.htm





David Emerson wrote:

> I am new to woodworking and would like to use MDF for a book case. I have
> read that there can be some health issues with the dust when cutting the
> sheets and want to know how others deal with the dust. What precautions
> should I take in addition to a dust mask and eye protection?
>
> Thanks in advance for your help.
>
>

PB

Pat Barber

in reply to "David Emerson" on 05/07/2005 6:51 PM

06/07/2005 7:57 PM

Not to be too picky, but particle board is not MDF
and MDF is not particle board.

http://www.awi-wa.com/OVERLAY_PROD.htm#PARTICLEBOARD

Anybody cutting any wood should be concerned with
dust collection, with or without kids.


mac davis wrote:


> As others have said, make MDF your last choice... if ya have to use it, consider
> making the "box" out of MDF and real wood for the shelves..
>
> PLEASE.. if you do use MDF (or "particle board") use a real dust mask, not one
> of those paper things with the elastic band and nose clip... they're for garden
> clippings, not potentially harmful dust from laminates... YMMV
>
> Also, if you don't have dust collection, be very careful with the dust that's
> going to be all over your shop... especially if you have kids..

EP

"Edwin Pawlowski"

in reply to "David Emerson" on 05/07/2005 6:51 PM

06/07/2005 3:09 AM


"David Emerson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I am new to woodworking and would like to use MDF for a book case. I have
>read that there can be some health issues with the dust when cutting the
>sheets and want to know how others deal with the dust. What precautions
>should I take in addition to a dust mask and eye protection?

Best precaution is to use a more suitable material for a bookcase. MDF is
not strong for shelves as it sags easily. Think plywood. Or pine boards
even. Check material differences here:
http://www.woodbin.com/calcs/sagulator.htm



PC

Patrick Conroy

in reply to "David Emerson" on 05/07/2005 6:51 PM

06/07/2005 4:18 PM

"David Emerson" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

>
>
> I am new to woodworking and would like to use MDF for a book case. I
> have read that there can be some health issues with the dust when
> cutting the sheets and want to know how others deal with the dust.
> What precautions should I take in addition to a dust mask and eye
> protection?
>
> Thanks in advance for your help.
>
>

I did a bookcase, and a couple of other projects out of MDF when I was
starting too. It's cheap, so I figured the cost of a mistake would be
reduced.

Get a *good* dust mask/cartridge respirator - I popped for a 3M N95 rated
one. Something along the lines of:
http://www.aosafety.com/aosafety.com/diy/resp_detail.cfm?con_prod_num=
95190&con_family_id=6&con_platform_id=1

Dust will be *everywhere* so have a good ShopVac or Dust Collection
system running while you cut. I hope your shop is outside or in the
garage.

A couple of inexpensive Box Fans with decent furnance filters tacked on
can act like inexpensive air cleaners too.

The nice things about MDF are it's cheap, it's flat and square. The
downsides are it's heavy, it can't span a large distance and hold alot of
books, you'll want to paint it when you're done.

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to "David Emerson" on 05/07/2005 6:51 PM

06/07/2005 2:59 PM


"David Emerson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I am new to woodworking and would like to use MDF for a book case. I have
>read that there can be some health issues with the dust when cutting the
>sheets and want to know how others deal with the dust. What precautions
>should I take in addition to a dust mask and eye protection?


Keep in mind that MDF will sag under it's own weight. So, be sure to
reinforce it.
The dust can be troublesome. I put myself between the MDF being cut and a
high out put fan blowing towards the large open garage door.


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