On Apr 15, 12:01=A0pm, dpb <[email protected]> wrote:
> Chris Friesen wrote:
> > [email protected] wrote:
> >> $2,684 is well into the ridiculous range.
>
> > The made-in-Canada General 650R-T50 is priced similarly.
>
> And a Model 66 is roughly $3K...
>
> --
Good Lord. I just Amazon'd the 66 and I had no idea it had gone up so
much. Ditto my 54A Jointer which I paid a $750 for 3-4 years ago (now
$959). As Leon suggested we, and the automakers, have to pay the
price the unions demand if we are buying US. I hope the current
plight of the US automaker isn't the future of machine tools. But
looking at the popularity of Grizzly, maybe its already getting
there.
I still like to let a product 'mature' a bit before I grab the first
off of the line. I spent quite a few years in aerospace engineering
and we used up a lot more change order numbers on the first few
production items than subsequent items. Granted an airplane is a tad
more complicated than a Unisaw but a lot of the changes were at
machining, welding and hardware levels.
RonB
RonB
On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 19:10:53 -0500, Mike O. <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 18:29:41 -0500, "Leon"
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>I don't think they have been released yet. IIRC Delta is doing a Festool
>>"thang". Dealers will be getting them but cannot sell them until a certain
>>date. At least that is what I was told at the Houston WW show week end
>>before last.
>
>
>I don't know if they are shipping yet but you can order one now from
>Woodcraft. I think they are a little higher than the previous model
>at $2874 for the 3HP w/36" Bies.
That's more than a "little" higher. I just bought the 3HP with the
52" Bies for $1600.
[email protected] wrote:
> $2,684 is well into the ridiculous range.
The made-in-Canada General 650R-T50 is priced similarly.
Chris
On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 18:29:41 -0500, "Leon"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>I don't think they have been released yet. IIRC Delta is doing a Festool
>"thang". Dealers will be getting them but cannot sell them until a certain
>date. At least that is what I was told at the Houston WW show week end
>before last.
I don't know if they are shipping yet but you can order one now from
Woodcraft. I think they are a little higher than the previous model
at $2874 for the 3HP w/36" Bies.
Mike O.
[email protected] wrote:
> $2,684 is well into the ridiculous range. Besides, I have always been
> reluctant to buy from the front end of the production line on a new
> product. It takes a while to work the bugs out of a new product.
> Also, the Unisaw "improvements" during the past 10-15 years have been
> less than stellar.
>
> RonB
$2700 is a LOT o' Jack. If I was going to be dropping that kind of
money I'd be giving the SawStop machine serious consideration.
Independent of its finger-saving feature it appears to be very well
engineered, seemingly more-so than the new Unisaw, at least from my
admittedly cursory and high-level fifty-foot view.
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"dpb" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> [email protected] wrote:
>> I want to ask to someone who has already owned Delta's new Unisaw
>> #36-L336. Please advise what the size of Footpint of #36-L336 is.
> ...
> Why not ask Delta???
>
>> # Length: With wings: 40"; With wings and fence guide rail: 71 "
>> # Width: 36-1/2 "
>> # Height: 41 "
>> # Weight: 624 lbs
>
> <http://www.deltaportercable.com/Products/ProductDetail.aspx?ProductID=21241>
>
> --
Over all dimensions are not the same as the footprint. If he is making a
mobile base for the cabinet the dimensions you listed would be way too
large.
<[email protected]> wrote in message
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>I want to ask to someone who has already owned Delta's new Unisaw
> #36-L336. Please advise what the size of Footpint of #36-L336 is.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Mickey
I don't think they have been released yet. IIRC Delta is doing a Festool
"thang". Dealers will be getting them but cannot sell them until a certain
date. At least that is what I was told at the Houston WW show week end
before last.
[email protected] wrote:
> I want to ask to someone who has already owned Delta's new Unisaw
> #36-L336. Please advise what the size of Footpint of #36-L336 is.
...
Why not ask Delta???
> # Length: With wings: 40"; With wings and fence guide rail: 71 "
> # Width: 36-1/2 "
> # Height: 41 "
> # Weight: 624 lbs
<http://www.deltaportercable.com/Products/ProductDetail.aspx?ProductID=21241>
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Chris Friesen wrote:
> [email protected] wrote:
>> $2,684 is well into the ridiculous range.
>
> The made-in-Canada General 650R-T50 is priced similarly.
And a Model 66 is roughly $3K...
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[email protected] wrote:
...
> Good Lord. I just Amazon'd the 66 and I had no idea it had gone up so
> much. ...
I don't know...mine cost me over $1K picked up at factory in McMinnville
in the early 80s -- not sure but what that wouldn't be about same in
current $$.
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>
> $2,684 is well into the ridiculous range. Besides, I have always been
> reluctant to buy from the front end of the production line on a new
> product. It takes a while to work the bugs out of a new product.
> Also, the Unisaw "improvements" during the past 10-15 years have been
> less than stellar.
>
> RonB
I would say the price increase is notable but if you want to American built
you have to pay Union prices. I don't know if you have shopped its direct
competition, SawStop and Powermatic but you may find that the pricing is
quite competitive. While I agree that first off the line tends to be a
gamble, new design can also mean over built. I have bought numerous "new
style" products and have been pleased. They all have not been totally free
of small details that need attention but I find that they tend to last
longer overall. Time and again I have seen a good design "under engineered"
later on to save on production cost. Take the example you pointed out, the
Unisaw built 5 years ago was lacking when compared to the Unisaw built 15+
years ago.
I still own my 10" bench top planer that I bought over 20 years ago and it
was built by Ryobi. It still runs fine but it is retired now as a 15"
stationary planer has replaced it.