[email protected] writes:
>
>In the case of the six sided die, there isn't any chance, not one,
>zero of a seven coming up. It isn't physically possible. There are
>only six choices--six possibilities. A seventh possibilty does not
>exist. There is zero chance for it to occur.
Hmmm. What if the die were a faulty manufacture? Remember, you referred
to a six-side die which could have seven "spots" on one of those six sides
due to a manufacturing error . . . or it could be intentionally made that
way. Perhaps your statement of a zero chance of a seven should be
restated to clarify that none of the six side have more than six "spots."
???
Glenna
In article <[email protected]>,
Glenna Rose <[email protected]> wrote:
>[email protected] writes:
>>
>>In the case of the six sided die, there isn't any chance, not one,
>>zero of a seven coming up. It isn't physically possible. There are
>>only six choices--six possibilities. A seventh possibilty does not
>>exist. There is zero chance for it to occur.
>
>Hmmm. What if the die were a faulty manufacture? Remember, you referred
>to a six-side die which could have seven "spots" on one of those six sides
>due to a manufacturing error . . . or it could be intentionally made that
>way. Perhaps your statement of a zero chance of a seven should be
>restated to clarify that none of the six side have more than six "spots."
>???
the possibility of "faulty manufacture" was eliminated in the specifications --
it was stated that the _specific_ die being used was:
(a) a regular hexahedron -- this means that it has precisely SIX faces,
no more, no less.
(b) had labels on the 6 faces that were from an 'enumerated list'. There
were precisely SIX elements in the enumerated list. There is no 'room'
for any other value.
(c) one that did *not* have 'spots' on it. The faces were labelled with
Arabic numbers. "1", "2", "3", "4", "5", and "6", according to the
enumerated list.
It *is* possible to have *A* die where you _could_ roll a '7' -- I've seen
ones in the shape of a dodecahedron, and even an icosahedron. However, it
is *NOT*POSSIBLE* with the die specified in the example. The mathematical
probability of the event specified ('rolling a "7") with *that* die is
_precisely_and_exactly_ ZERO.
Sorry, but the specifications of the example were 'deliberately and
maliciously constructed' in a manner such as to eliminate such extraneous
digressions. :)
In article <[email protected]>,
Silvan <[email protected]> wrote:
>TBone wrote:
>
>>> >In the case of the six sided die, there isn't any chance, not one,
>>> >zero of a seven coming up. It isn't physically possible. There are
>>> >only six choices--six possibilities. A seventh possibilty does not
>>> >exist. There is zero chance for it to occur.
>>>
>>> Hmmm. What if the die were a faulty manufacture?
>>
>> Then it wouldn't be a six sided die anymore, case closed.
>
>What if it were a six-sided die with faces numbered 6 through 11?
Then it wouldn't meet the specifications of the original 'problem',
and the probability analysis would not be relevant to that changed
situation.
Next question? <grin>
TBone wrote:
>> >In the case of the six sided die, there isn't any chance, not one,
>> >zero of a seven coming up. It isn't physically possible. There are
>> >only six choices--six possibilities. A seventh possibilty does not
>> >exist. There is zero chance for it to occur.
>>
>> Hmmm. What if the die were a faulty manufacture?
>
> Then it wouldn't be a six sided die anymore, case closed.
What if it were a six-sided die with faces numbered 6 through 11?
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"Glenna Rose" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> [email protected] writes:
> >
> >In the case of the six sided die, there isn't any chance, not one,
> >zero of a seven coming up. It isn't physically possible. There are
> >only six choices--six possibilities. A seventh possibilty does not
> >exist. There is zero chance for it to occur.
>
> Hmmm. What if the die were a faulty manufacture?
Then it wouldn't be a six sided die anymore, case closed.
--
If at first you don't succeed, you're not cut out for skydiving
>
Then you have once again changed the rules as the original die was labeled 1
thru 6 but even there, only 6 possibilities exist so a seventh one has ZERO
chance.
--
If at first you don't succeed, you're not cut out for skydiving
"Silvan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> TBone wrote:
>
> >> >In the case of the six sided die, there isn't any chance, not one,
> >> >zero of a seven coming up. It isn't physically possible. There are
> >> >only six choices--six possibilities. A seventh possibilty does not
> >> >exist. There is zero chance for it to occur.
> >>
> >> Hmmm. What if the die were a faulty manufacture?
> >
> > Then it wouldn't be a six sided die anymore, case closed.
>
> What if it were a six-sided die with faces numbered 6 through 11?
>
> --
> Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
> Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
> http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
> http://rosegarden.sourceforge.net/tutorial/