RH

Rob H.

19/12/2013 1:53 AM

What is it? Set 524

I need some help with number 3059 in this week's set:

http://55tools.blogspot.com/


Rob


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Ll

Leon

in reply to Rob H. on 19/12/2013 1:53 AM

19/12/2013 7:47 AM

Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote:
> I need some help with number 3059 in this week's set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob

3058. Paint brush and paint roller scraper.

h

in reply to Rob H. on 19/12/2013 1:53 AM

21/12/2013 8:34 PM

< snips >

>>
>some carriages may have had axle diameters as small as 2 to 2.5 inches.
>Hmmmm.... suppose you had a cab company in 1890. It snows.
> You have to convert your cabs to sleighs. Each wheel must be properly
>stored to stay round. I wonder if this device would have helped move carriage
>wheels around a shop on a hoist.


It looks much too light-duty for that , in my mind.
Why would it have pointy ends ?
.. I liked the hang-a-bird theory.
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in reply to Rob H. on 19/12/2013 1:53 AM

19/12/2013 6:19 AM

Rob H. wrote:
> I need some help with number 3059 in this week's set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob


3057 is a collet from either a Dremel or a Foredom tool . 3058 looks like
a tool to clean paint brushes and rollers . And 3059 looks like it might be
used for pulling sleeve bearings out of holes .
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phorbin

in reply to Rob H. on 19/12/2013 1:53 AM

19/12/2013 11:50 PM

In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
> Steve W. wrote:
> > Rob H. wrote:
> >> In article <[email protected]>, Alexander Thesoso says...
> >>> 3060 Apple peeler, corer, sectioner.
> >>
> >>
> >> Yes, this one was patented in 1877
> >>
> >
> > That one looks like it wouldn't be that easy to use. Looks like you
> > turn the crank to peel but then have to push the apple through the
> > coring/sectioning section. Bet that gets old real quick with the lack
> > of leverage.
>
> It appears to be the same as the modern day apple peeler/corers. You just
> crank the crank and everything happens like magic - as long as everything
> stays in alignment, and the apple is not too out of round, and... and...

overripe, bruised and soft.

Pears too.

We use the version sold by Lee Valley.

They're great appliances for getting fruit peeled and sliced for drying or pie
making.

LE

"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"

in reply to Rob H. on 19/12/2013 1:53 AM

19/12/2013 6:18 AM

Rob H. <[email protected]> fired this volley in
news:[email protected]:

> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>

3055 Yup... we called 'em "worm jumpers", too. Just an old telephone
ringer magneto.

3056 Knife (and presumably chisel) sharpener jig for a bench grinder.
Blade clamps in the flap, setscrews control depth of cut, flap slides
along the rails.

3057 looks like an expanding collet for a small pin vise or a mechanical
pencil.

3058 ice chipper/shave?

3059 GOTTA be for hanging a carcass of some sort. They go in a cavity,
they spring out, they LOCK, and they hang and swivel. Gotta be for a
bird... gotta find it!

3060 Yep... appler.

LLoyd

LE

"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"

in reply to Rob H. on 19/12/2013 1:53 AM

19/12/2013 9:21 AM

Rich Hare <[email protected]> fired this volley in news:l8ur00$p8f$1
@dont-email.me:

> 3059 Is an internal thread chaser. If you've got an internal thread
> that has chips or dirt in it, you would use it to clean those threads
> out with this device prior to screwing something in. You can see the
> leaf springs which expand the points outward.
>
> My dad had one for use on his lathe or mill, as I recall.

I think it could be pressed into that service, but it has no resemblance
to any chasers I've ever seen. The points aren't 'points', there is no
handle (it's designed to hang and swivel), and the lock would serve no
purpose in that application.

Rob, I believe that is an adjustable gambrel for hanging birds for
smoking.

Lloyd

LE

"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"

in reply to Rob H. on 19/12/2013 1:53 AM

19/12/2013 9:23 AM

"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" <lloydspinsidemindspring.com> fired this volley in
news:[email protected]:

> The points aren't 'points',

shoot... I meant to say, they're not wedge-shaped points, nor at a vee-
thread angle, and they aren't even exactly opposite each other.

OF COURSE, they're "points".

Lloyd

LE

"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"

in reply to Rob H. on 19/12/2013 1:53 AM

19/12/2013 3:59 PM

Rich Hare <[email protected]> fired this volley in news:l8vp3r$o0f$1
@dont-email.me:

>
>

Looking further at the 'works', it appears to be designed to just push into
a cavity, then grip tightly by shoving in the prongs as it's pulled back.
It could be a gambrel... it could be a "Lewis" for lifting hollow blocks of
something fairly soft.

Lloyd

LE

"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"

in reply to Rob H. on 19/12/2013 1:53 AM

21/12/2013 10:54 AM

J Burns <[email protected]> fired this volley in news:l94at5$mo$1@dont-
email.me:

> I wonder if it was to hang a container, or maybe to extract a mechanical
> part with a tube 2" in diameter.

It's definitely for hanging something, and freely enough to let it self-
center at its CG. Note the swivel and loop at the top.

Any sort of implement used to grasp would have a rigid handle.

Lloyd

Nn

"Nick"

in reply to Rob H. on 19/12/2013 1:53 AM

19/12/2013 6:08 PM


"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I need some help with number 3059 in this week's set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob
3058
I think this tool might be used for forming in-situ mouldings
(cement/plaster etc) where the use of timber is not practicable ie. curved
surfaces. I have seen something very similar in use.
Nick.

AT

Alexander Thesoso

in reply to Rob H. on 19/12/2013 1:53 AM

19/12/2013 5:55 AM

3055 Gotta answer quick... Almost everyone will recognize this. It is
a telephone magneto/generator. Originally used to generate ringing
current in crank phones. Later used as a prank gadget to shock people.


On 12/19/2013 4:53 AM, Rob H. wrote:
> I need some help with number 3059 in this week's set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob
>

AT

Alexander Thesoso

in reply to Rob H. on 19/12/2013 1:53 AM

19/12/2013 5:56 AM

3060 Apple peeler, corer, sectioner.


On 12/19/2013 4:53 AM, Rob H. wrote:
> I need some help with number 3059 in this week's set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob
>

RH

Rich Hare

in reply to Rob H. on 19/12/2013 1:53 AM

19/12/2013 8:06 AM

Rob H. wrote:
> I need some help with number 3059 in this week's set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob
>

3059 Is an internal thread chaser. If you've got an internal thread
that has chips or dirt in it, you would use it to clean those threads
out with this device prior to screwing something in. You can see the
leaf springs which expand the points outward.

My dad had one for use on his lathe or mill, as I recall.

Rich

RH

Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 19/12/2013 1:53 AM

19/12/2013 11:16 AM

In article <[email protected]>, Alexander Thesoso says...
>
>3055 Gotta answer quick... Almost everyone will recognize this. It is
>a telephone magneto/generator. Originally used to generate ringing
>current in crank phones. Later used as a prank gadget to shock people.


Correct

RH

Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 19/12/2013 1:53 AM

19/12/2013 11:17 AM

In article <[email protected]>, Alexander Thesoso says...
>
>3060 Apple peeler, corer, sectioner.


Yes, this one was patented in 1877

RH

Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 19/12/2013 1:53 AM

19/12/2013 11:20 AM


>3056 Knife (and presumably chisel) sharpener jig for a bench grinder.
>Blade clamps in the flap, setscrews control depth of cut, flap slides
>along the rails.


This answer is correct.


>3057 looks like an expanding collet for a small pin vise or a mechanical
>pencil.


Yep, for a mechanical pencil


>3058 ice chipper/shave?


Nope


>3059 GOTTA be for hanging a carcass of some sort. They go in a cavity,
>they spring out, they LOCK, and they hang and swivel. Gotta be for a
>bird... gotta find it!


Could be, I haven't been able to prove any of the guesses for this device.

SW

"Steve W."

in reply to Rob H. on 19/12/2013 1:53 AM

19/12/2013 2:28 PM

Rob H. wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>, Alexander Thesoso says...
>> 3060 Apple peeler, corer, sectioner.
>
>
> Yes, this one was patented in 1877
>

That one looks like it wouldn't be that easy to use. Looks like you turn
the crank to peel but then have to push the apple through the
coring/sectioning section. Bet that gets old real quick with the lack of
leverage.

--
Steve W.

RH

Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 19/12/2013 1:53 AM

19/12/2013 11:30 AM


>3057 is a collet from either a Dremel or a Foredom tool

Collet is correct but it's from a Koh-I-Noor pencil

>3058 looks like a tool to clean paint brushes and rollers

Nope, this one is a kitchen tool

>3059 looks like it might be used for pulling sleeve bearings out of holes.

Another possible answer for this one

RH

Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 19/12/2013 1:53 AM

19/12/2013 11:34 AM


>
>3059 Is an internal thread chaser. If you've got an internal thread
>that has chips or dirt in it, you would use it to clean those threads
>out with this device prior to screwing something in. You can see the
>leaf springs which expand the points outward.
>
>My dad had one for use on his lathe or mill, as I recall.
>
>Rich


I couldn't find a similar one like it on the web but I'll add it to my list of
suggestions for this tool.

RH

Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 19/12/2013 1:53 AM

19/12/2013 11:38 AM


>I think it could be pressed into that service, but it has no resemblance
>to any chasers I've ever seen. The points aren't 'points', there is no
>handle (it's designed to hang and swivel), and the lock would serve no
>purpose in that application.
>
>Rob, I believe that is an adjustable gambrel for hanging birds for
>smoking.
>
>Lloyd


I'm starting to think this tool was hand forged, if so it might remain a
mystery,
but I'll pass all of the guesses on to the owner of it.

RH

Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 19/12/2013 1:53 AM

19/12/2013 11:39 AM


>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>

>3058
>I think this tool might be used for forming in-situ mouldings
>(cement/plaster etc) where the use of timber is not practicable ie. curved
>surfaces. I have seen something very similar in use.
>Nick.
>
>

Nope, it wasn't for mouldings.

MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to Rob H. on 19/12/2013 1:53 AM

19/12/2013 3:24 PM

Steve W. wrote:
> Rob H. wrote:
>> In article <[email protected]>, Alexander Thesoso says...
>>> 3060 Apple peeler, corer, sectioner.
>>
>>
>> Yes, this one was patented in 1877
>>
>
> That one looks like it wouldn't be that easy to use. Looks like you
> turn the crank to peel but then have to push the apple through the
> coring/sectioning section. Bet that gets old real quick with the lack
> of leverage.

It appears to be the same as the modern day apple peeler/corers. You just
crank the crank and everything happens like magic - as long as everything
stays in alignment, and the apple is not too out of round, and... and...

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

PD

Paul Drahn

in reply to Rob H. on 19/12/2013 1:53 AM

19/12/2013 1:34 PM

On 12/19/2013 2:55 AM, Alexander Thesoso wrote:
> 3055 Gotta answer quick... Almost everyone will recognize this. It is a
> telephone magneto/generator. Originally used to generate ringing current
> in crank phones. Later used as a prank gadget to shock people.
>
>
> On 12/19/2013 4:53 AM, Rob H. wrote:
>> I need some help with number 3059 in this week's set:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>> Rob
>>
>
I used one with two wires in the creek water to catch crawdads for fish
bait.

Paul

PD

Paul Drahn

in reply to Rob H. on 19/12/2013 1:53 AM

19/12/2013 1:40 PM

On 12/19/2013 1:53 AM, Rob H. wrote:
> I need some help with number 3059 in this week's set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob
>
As already mentioned, #3056 is a holder for sharpening tools, usually
flat tools like wood chisels. I have had one on a grinder for years.
Really handy to get a square end on a chisel. Mine can tilt away from
the wheel so you can grind other things.

Paul

RH

Rich Hare

in reply to Rob H. on 19/12/2013 1:53 AM

19/12/2013 4:40 PM

Lloyd E. Sponenburgh wrote:
> Rich Hare <[email protected]> fired this volley in news:l8ur00$p8f$1
> @dont-email.me:
>
>> 3059 Is an internal thread chaser. If you've got an internal thread
>> that has chips or dirt in it, you would use it to clean those threads
>> out with this device prior to screwing something in. You can see the
>> leaf springs which expand the points outward.
>>
>> My dad had one for use on his lathe or mill, as I recall.
>
> I think it could be pressed into that service, but it has no resemblance
> to any chasers I've ever seen. The points aren't 'points', there is no
> handle (it's designed to hang and swivel), and the lock would serve no
> purpose in that application.
>
> Rob, I believe that is an adjustable gambrel for hanging birds for
> smoking.
>
> Lloyd

Lloyd, looking closer at the photograph, I see that each leg terminates
in a double prong. I didn't notice that the first time. Not quite what
I thought it was.

Rich

SW

"Steve W."

in reply to Rob H. on 19/12/2013 1:53 AM

20/12/2013 4:05 AM

Mike Marlow wrote:
> Steve W. wrote:
>> Rob H. wrote:
>>> In article <[email protected]>, Alexander Thesoso says...
>>>> 3060 Apple peeler, corer, sectioner.
>>>
>>> Yes, this one was patented in 1877
>>>
>> That one looks like it wouldn't be that easy to use. Looks like you
>> turn the crank to peel but then have to push the apple through the
>> coring/sectioning section. Bet that gets old real quick with the lack
>> of leverage.
>
> It appears to be the same as the modern day apple peeler/corers. You just
> crank the crank and everything happens like magic - as long as everything
> stays in alignment, and the apple is not too out of round, and... and...
>

I thought that till I looked at the core/sectioner. It's a fixed part
and most peelers rotate the apple on the prongs. I have a few antique
ones and a couple newer ones. They all rotate the apple and use an acme
style thread to propel the apple. This one has the threaded area but the
core section doesn't rotate. Put a spinning apple against it and you're
going to have applesauce. So you have to crank to peel it. Then shove it
through the slicer section.



--
Steve W.

RH

Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 19/12/2013 1:53 AM

20/12/2013 1:24 PM


>3055, by some odd coincidence, I have one of these
>on my kitchen table, now. Mine has a better crank
>handle than the one you show, and is in a bit
>better shape. I know what it does, but not "it's
>a XX that goes onto a YY" level of detail. I'd be
>happy to send you pictures, if you wish.

Don't think I need any photos but thanks for the offer.

-----

Answers for this week's set have been posted, but no luck yet finding a
reference for 3059:

http://55tools.blogspot.com/2013/12/set-524.html#answers

I'll be posting next week as usual, hope everyone has a great Christmas, or
Holiday.


Rob

PD

Paul Drahn

in reply to Rob H. on 19/12/2013 1:53 AM

20/12/2013 2:47 PM

On 12/20/2013 1:24 PM, Rob H. wrote:
>> 3055, by some odd coincidence, I have one of these
>> on my kitchen table, now. Mine has a better crank
>> handle than the one you show, and is in a bit
>> better shape. I know what it does, but not "it's
>> a XX that goes onto a YY" level of detail. I'd be
>> happy to send you pictures, if you wish.
>
> Don't think I need any photos but thanks for the offer.
>
> -----
>
> Answers for this week's set have been posted, but no luck yet finding a
> reference for 3059:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2013/12/set-524.html#answers
>
> I'll be posting next week as usual, hope everyone has a great Christmas, or
> Holiday.
>
>
> Rob
>
Rob.
Actually the magneto was for more than signaling the operator. If you
wanted to call someone on your line, a neighbor, perhaps. You didn't
call the operator. the operator could not help you. You needed to ring
the other person on your line. Perhaps two long rings and a short, or
three shorts rings. Every subscriber on a given line heard all the rings
whenever someone was being called. Every subscriber had their own unique
signal code. In fact they could pick up the receiver and listen to the
conversation and even add their comments at any time. The good old days!

Paul

BB

Bill

in reply to Rob H. on 19/12/2013 1:53 AM

20/12/2013 6:24 PM

Paul Drahn wrote:
> On 12/20/2013 1:24 PM, Rob H. wrote:
>>> 3055, by some odd coincidence, I have one of these
>>> on my kitchen table, now. Mine has a better crank
>>> handle than the one you show, and is in a bit
>>> better shape. I know what it does, but not "it's
>>> a XX that goes onto a YY" level of detail. I'd be
>>> happy to send you pictures, if you wish.
>>
>> Don't think I need any photos but thanks for the offer.
>>
>> -----
>>
>> Answers for this week's set have been posted, but no luck yet finding a
>> reference for 3059:
I typed
antique medical spreader
into Google Images, and found perhaps related items.

Bill

>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2013/12/set-524.html#answers
>>
>> I'll be posting next week as usual, hope everyone has a great
>> Christmas, or
>> Holiday.
>>
>>
>> Rob
>>
> Rob.
> Actually the magneto was for more than signaling the operator. If you
> wanted to call someone on your line, a neighbor, perhaps. You didn't
> call the operator. the operator could not help you. You needed to ring
> the other person on your line. Perhaps two long rings and a short, or
> three shorts rings. Every subscriber on a given line heard all the
> rings whenever someone was being called. Every subscriber had their
> own unique signal code. In fact they could pick up the receiver and
> listen to the conversation and even add their comments at any time.
> The good old days!
>
> Paul

RH

Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 19/12/2013 1:53 AM

21/12/2013 2:36 AM


>Actually the magneto was for more than signaling the operator. If you
>wanted to call someone on your line, a neighbor, perhaps. You didn't
>call the operator. the operator could not help you. You needed to ring
>the other person on your line. Perhaps two long rings and a short, or
>three shorts rings. Every subscriber on a given line heard all the rings
>whenever someone was being called. Every subscriber had their own unique
>signal code. In fact they could pick up the receiver and listen to the
>conversation and even add their comments at any time. The good old days!
>
>Paul


Thanks, I just updated my answer for this device.

RH

Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 19/12/2013 1:53 AM

21/12/2013 2:46 AM


>I typed
>antique medical spreader
>into Google Images, and found perhaps related items.
>
>Bill


Thought that might be a risky search but turned out to be not bad at all. I'll
pass this along to the owner so he can possibly do further research. Thanks

JB

J Burns

in reply to Rob H. on 19/12/2013 1:53 AM

21/12/2013 10:08 AM

On 12/20/13, 6:24 PM, Bill wrote:
> Paul Drahn wrote:
>> On 12/20/2013 1:24 PM, Rob H. wrote:
>>>> 3055, by some odd coincidence, I have one of these
>>>> on my kitchen table, now. Mine has a better crank
>>>> handle than the one you show, and is in a bit
>>>> better shape. I know what it does, but not "it's
>>>> a XX that goes onto a YY" level of detail. I'd be
>>>> happy to send you pictures, if you wish.
>>>
>>> Don't think I need any photos but thanks for the offer.
>>>
>>> -----
>>>
>>> Answers for this week's set have been posted, but no luck yet finding a
>>> reference for 3059:
> I typed
> antique medical spreader
> into Google Images, and found perhaps related items.
>
> Bill

I hadn't thought of that. I think two points would puncture tissue
instead of spreading it.

Assuming the ruler is an inch wide, it appears that the pointy toes are
about 3.5" apart. The "legs" appear to be about 2" apart, outside to
outside, at the "ankle." If they were squeezed together, it appears
that the "toes" would be 2" apart.

If the slotted piece were slid down, perhaps it would hold the legs
together.

I picture a cylindrical container the size of a 46-ounce juice can. In
the center of the flat top, it has a neck 2" in diameter and 5" long.
If you collapsed the legs and shoved the tool down until one of the toes
got under the flat surface below the neck, then let the legs spread, the
other toe would come out under the flat surface on the other side. Now
you could hang the container securely.

I wonder if it was to hang a container, or maybe to extract a mechanical
part with a tube 2" in diameter.

It's curious that the "toes" aren't 180 degrees apart.

JB

J Burns

in reply to Rob H. on 19/12/2013 1:53 AM

21/12/2013 1:54 PM

On 12/21/13, 11:54 AM, Lloyd E. Sponenburgh wrote:
> J Burns <[email protected]> fired this volley in news:l94at5$mo$1@dont-
> email.me:
>
>> I wonder if it was to hang a container, or maybe to extract a mechanical
>> part with a tube 2" in diameter.
>
> It's definitely for hanging something, and freely enough to let it self-
> center at its CG. Note the swivel and loop at the top.
>
> Any sort of implement used to grasp would have a rigid handle.
>
> Lloyd
>
I think some carriages may have had axle diameters as small as 2 to 2.5
inches.
Hmmmm.... suppose you had a cab company in 1890. It snows. You have to
convert your cabs to sleighs. Each wheel must be properly stored to
stay round. I wonder if this device would have helped move carriage
wheels around a shop on a hoist.

BB

Bill

in reply to Rob H. on 19/12/2013 1:53 AM

21/12/2013 2:03 PM

Rob H. wrote:
>> I typed
>> antique medical spreader
>> into Google Images, and found perhaps related items.
>>
>> Bill
>
> Thought that might be a risky search but turned out to be not bad at all.

Are you sometimes concerned about what you might see? Occasionally, I
brace myself..



> I'll
> pass this along to the owner so he can possibly do further research. Thanks
>

BB

Bill

in reply to Rob H. on 19/12/2013 1:53 AM

21/12/2013 2:06 PM

J Burns wrote:
> On 12/20/13, 6:24 PM, Bill wrote:
>> Paul Drahn wrote:
>>> On 12/20/2013 1:24 PM, Rob H. wrote:
>>>>> 3055, by some odd coincidence, I have one of these
>>>>> on my kitchen table, now. Mine has a better crank
>>>>> handle than the one you show, and is in a bit
>>>>> better shape. I know what it does, but not "it's
>>>>> a XX that goes onto a YY" level of detail. I'd be
>>>>> happy to send you pictures, if you wish.
>>>>
>>>> Don't think I need any photos but thanks for the offer.
>>>>
>>>> -----
>>>>
>>>> Answers for this week's set have been posted, but no luck yet
>>>> finding a
>>>> reference for 3059:
>> I typed
>> antique medical spreader
>> into Google Images, and found perhaps related items.
>>
>> Bill
>
> I hadn't thought of that. I think two points would puncture tissue
> instead of spreading it.
>
> Assuming the ruler is an inch wide, it appears that the pointy toes
> are about 3.5" apart. The "legs" appear to be about 2" apart, outside
> to outside, at the "ankle." If they were squeezed together, it
> appears that the "toes" would be 2" apart.
>
> If the slotted piece were slid down, perhaps it would hold the legs
> together.
>
> I picture a cylindrical container the size of a 46-ounce juice can.
> In the center of the flat top, it has a neck 2" in diameter and 5"
> long. If you collapsed the legs and shoved the tool down until one of
> the toes got under the flat surface below the neck, then let the legs
> spread, the other toe would come out under the flat surface on the
> other side. Now you could hang the container securely.
>
> I wonder if it was to hang a container, or maybe to extract a
> mechanical part with a tube 2" in diameter.
>
> It's curious that the "toes" aren't 180 degrees apart.
>
Someone suggested "for cleaning (interior) threads". That hasn't been
ruled out (and may explain why account for why the toes aren't
180-degrees apart).

DN

"DoN. Nichols"

in reply to Rob H. on 19/12/2013 1:53 AM

19/12/2013 11:58 PM

On 2013-12-19, Rob H <[email protected]> wrote:
> I need some help with number 3059 in this week's set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/

Posting in the usenet newsgroup rec.crafts.metalworking as
always.

3055) Memories of being a kid! :-)

This is the ringing generator used in old phones to ring up the
operator at the central office.

it has been butchered, however. Note the different color of the
metal in the center of the large gear. It should have a fitting
there for a crank which extended through the side of the wooden
box mounted on the wall. The center of the gear had a threaded
stud sticking out, onto which the crank threaded.

Interesting -- this one *does* have a square stud on the other
end of the shaft, so a crank could be slid onto that to allow it
to be cranked. Perhaps goes along with the red paint job on the
magnets.

The crank turns the large gear, which spins the smaller gear
more rapidly, spinning an armature between the poles of the
horseshoe magnets (painted red in this example, though they were
usually painted black since they were hidden inside the box.)

It was obviously set up to be mounted to a bench -- likely in a
school physics lab.

And I suspect that the crank was sawn off prior to offering it
as an antique item -- likely to prevent people getting nasty
shocks from it. It has been used by kids to shock other kids
(guilty), and has also been used as a form of torture (not
guilty).

3056) Made for Craftsman (Sears) by who knows.

Looks as though it might serve as a vise for sharpening saw
blades.

3057) This is a collet for holding burrs in a flexible shaft tool,
or perhaps a hand-held tool. It looks a little long to be for a
Dremel, but it is for a similar tool at least.

3058) An interesting tool. At a guess, it is for woodworking, with
the edges marked 'd' and 'v' for smoothing respectively curved
surface and flat surfaces. The other two edges might be for
stripping off bark as an earlier operation.

3059) At a guess, it expands inside something to allow it to be hung
from a scale. Likely fish but perhaps a side of beef or
something like that.

3060) A tool for preparing apples at a guess. It at least cuts
slices and discards the core. And it looks as though it also
peels the apple first.

Looks like a good thing to have if you want to turn a bushel of
apples into a number of apple pies.

Now to post and then see what others have suggested.

Enjoy,
DoN.

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in reply to Rob H. on 19/12/2013 1:53 AM

20/12/2013 12:04 AM

On 2013-12-19, Lloyd E. Sponenburgh <lloydspinsidemindspring.com> wrote:
> Rob H. <[email protected]> fired this volley in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/

[ ... ]

> 3057 looks like an expanding collet for a small pin vise or a mechanical
> pencil.

I think the latter, though I just posted a suggestion that it is
a collet for a rotary tool like a Dremel or Foredom. But the extra view
which was only in the "larger" page shows the ridges in it, so I now
believe that it was specifically from a drafting pencil, which held
larger diameter "leads" than normal mechanical pencils did. It was
spring loaded, and you pushed the button on the end to allow the "lead"
to slide down so the sharpener could re-point it.

Enjoy,
DoN.

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in reply to Rob H. on 19/12/2013 1:53 AM

22/12/2013 12:26 AM

On 2013-12-20, Stormin Mormon <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 12/19/2013 4:53 AM, Rob H. wrote:
>> I need some help with number 3059 in this week's set:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>> Rob
>>
> Posting from my desk top PC in the living room,
> as always.

But in which newsgroup? This is cross-posted to three
newsgroups. (I know, you are active in rec.crafts.metalworking too, but
the idea was to try to associate what kinds of answers come from people
in which newsgroups.

> 3055, by some odd coincidence, I have one of these
> on my kitchen table, now. Mine has a better crank
> handle than the one you show, and is in a bit
> better shape.

Yours has a crank which screws onto a threaded stud in the
center of the big gear, I suspect.

And -- when it is turned, a projection extends out the other end
of the shaft, closing an electrical contact.

> I know what it does, but not "it's
> a XX that goes onto a YY" level of detail.

If it is as I described (and likely black paint on the horseshoe
magnets, instead of red paint), then it almost certainly came out of an
old wall-mounted telephone. You cranked it to send a ringing signal
down the line, to get the operator's attention. (Or, to ring other
phones on the same party line, to make very local calls without the help
of the operator. :-)

The one in the puzzle, with the square projection on the far end
of the shaft is likely intended to be used in something like a school
physics/science lab, thus the fancy red paint on the magnets. (And, it
allows the teacher to lock away the crank, to prevent mis-use of the
generator -- or at least to make it a bit more difficult. I could
imagine the teacher doing that in self-defense, given the way kids act.
(I was one. :-)

> I'd be
> happy to send you pictures, if you wish.

I don't need one, but perhaps the fellow who posts the puzzles
would appreciate it.

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in reply to Rob H. on 19/12/2013 1:53 AM

20/12/2013 1:38 PM

On 12/19/2013 5:55 AM, Alexander Thesoso wrote:
> 3055 Gotta answer quick... Almost everyone will recognize this. It is
> a telephone magneto/generator. Originally used to generate ringing
> current in crank phones. Later used as a prank gadget to shock people.
>
>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
Guess I missed that one. Knew it was a crank generator,
but didn't know the used purpose.

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Stormin Mormon

in reply to Rob H. on 19/12/2013 1:53 AM

20/12/2013 1:37 PM

On 12/19/2013 4:53 AM, Rob H. wrote:
> I need some help with number 3059 in this week's set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob
>
Posting from my desk top PC in the living room,
as always.

3055, by some odd coincidence, I have one of these
on my kitchen table, now. Mine has a better crank
handle than the one you show, and is in a bit
better shape. I know what it does, but not "it's
a XX that goes onto a YY" level of detail. I'd be
happy to send you pictures, if you wish.

3056, don't know.
3057, some kind of leather punch?
3058, don't know
3059, maybe help carry tubing of some kind? Squeeze, and put the pointy
ends in the tube?
3060, maybe apple peeler, and slicer?

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