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"toller"

19/07/2004 9:54 PM

A dumb finishing question

I built a cabinet for my wife; nothing special, just an ash frame with left
over scraps of birch and oak plywood panels.

I got it exactly the color she wanted with a light brown/red dye and a
mahogany gel stain.(I told her I didn't like the color, but you know how
"they" are.)

Now she doesn't like the color either. It would be more work to strip it
than it was to build it. Is there anything to be done except painting it?
I am thinking maybe a brown gelstain will move it away from red; but that
will leave it pretty dark. Any other ideas?


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nn

in reply to "toller" on 19/07/2004 9:54 PM

20/07/2004 9:28 AM

TransTint dyes can be used in many liquids including alcohol or water,
shellac or WB lacquer. www.homesteadfinishing.com

On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 10:32:29 GMT, B a r r y
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 21:54:02 GMT, "toller" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>Now she doesn't like the color either. It would be more work to strip it
>>than it was to build it. Is there anything to be done except painting it?
>>I am thinking maybe a brown gelstain will move it away from red; but that
>>will leave it pretty dark. Any other ideas?
>>
>
>Try a green top coat. Slowly add green dye or colorant to a clear
>finish, and build it in light coats. The green tint will move the
>color towards brown with less darkening overall.
>
>Practice on scrap!
>
>Barry

Pn

Phisherman

in reply to "toller" on 19/07/2004 9:54 PM

19/07/2004 11:46 PM

On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 21:54:02 GMT, "toller" <[email protected]> wrote:

>I built a cabinet for my wife; nothing special, just an ash frame with left
>over scraps of birch and oak plywood panels.
>
>I got it exactly the color she wanted with a light brown/red dye and a
>mahogany gel stain.(I told her I didn't like the color, but you know how
>"they" are.)
>
>Now she doesn't like the color either. It would be more work to strip it
>than it was to build it. Is there anything to be done except painting it?
>I am thinking maybe a brown gelstain will move it away from red; but that
>will leave it pretty dark. Any other ideas?
>


Try removing some of the stain with a rag dampened with mineral
spirits, then apply another stain. Sometimes finishing DOES take
longer than to build the project. Hope you remember you broke one of
the classic rules of finishing:

Save a few pieces of wood to use to test various finishes. A bad
finish can ruin your project. After applying some stain to a scrap
piece, ask your wife if she likes it; or better yet show her 4 or 5
samples to select one.

cb

charlie b

in reply to "toller" on 19/07/2004 9:54 PM

21/07/2004 2:07 PM

Get thee a Color Wheel - available from most art supply
stores/sources. Will show you what color on the opposite
side of the wheel from your current color you need to
add to tone down the color your wife doesn't like.

Or - DAGS on color theory, color wheel ...

charlie b

Sk

"Swingman"

in reply to "toller" on 19/07/2004 9:54 PM

19/07/2004 5:15 PM


"toller" wrote in message
> I built a cabinet for my wife; nothing special, just an ash frame with
left
> over scraps of birch and oak plywood panels.
>
> I got it exactly the color she wanted with a light brown/red dye and a
> mahogany gel stain.(I told her I didn't like the color, but you know how
> "they" are.)
>
> Now she doesn't like the color either. It would be more work to strip it
> than it was to build it. Is there anything to be done except painting it?
> I am thinking maybe a brown gelstain will move it away from red; but that
> will leave it pretty dark. Any other ideas?

Strangely enough, you might be surprised at what an amber shellac would do
for the tone ... it would be worth a try on some scrap, in any event.

--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 7/10/04


nn

in reply to "toller" on 19/07/2004 9:54 PM

22/07/2004 8:18 AM

Google for "liberon" for a multi page discussion on Color Theory which
includes a simple color wheel.

On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 14:07:03 -0700, charlie b <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Get thee a Color Wheel - available from most art supply
>stores/sources. Will show you what color on the opposite
>side of the wheel from your current color you need to
>add to tone down the color your wife doesn't like.
>
>Or - DAGS on color theory, color wheel ...
>
>charlie b

Ba

B a r r y

in reply to "toller" on 19/07/2004 9:54 PM

20/07/2004 10:32 AM

On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 21:54:02 GMT, "toller" <[email protected]> wrote:


>Now she doesn't like the color either. It would be more work to strip it
>than it was to build it. Is there anything to be done except painting it?
>I am thinking maybe a brown gelstain will move it away from red; but that
>will leave it pretty dark. Any other ideas?
>

Try a green top coat. Slowly add green dye or colorant to a clear
finish, and build it in light coats. The green tint will move the
color towards brown with less darkening overall.

Practice on scrap!

Barry


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