Moderating rec.woodworking

On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:25:35 -0500, "TaskMule"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
>> "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > This house is a mess; time to clean it up. I will submit the RFD within
>> > 24 hours. Voting will start about 21 days later. I have a *very* good
>> > feeling that the vote will pass, and that I will become the moderator
>> > of rec.woodworking by next month. I suggest you start being a little
>> > nicer to me if you want me to pay attention to your ideas during the
>> > RFD process.
>
>OK everybody, lets use the above email addreses to tell Robert where to go.
>
If the troll isn't really Robert, and you do that, the troll wins, big
time..


mac

Please remove splinters before emailing

On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:37:08 GMT, [email protected] (Doug Miller) wrote:

>In article <[email protected]>, "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Not so--note that nearly all are ignoring the racial epithet trolling now
>>going on. The moderation thing, on the other hand, is a hot button for the
>>group.
>
>Anyone who's using my filter file with Nfilter is not seeing that
>racial-epithet trolling at all. Which might account for lack of response to
>it. I didn't even know it was there until I visited Google Groups to search
>for more information about the other troll threads in hopes of finding
>something to filter against.

Nope, those of us not using your filter are seeing the headers and
ignoring the sad, sick mind behind the posts.

The initial posting regarding moderation seemed close enough to plausible
to illicit an initial response -- the other posts are so stupid as to flag
troll to anyone seeing them.





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Now we'll just use some glue to hold things in place until the brads dry

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In article <[email protected]>, Mark & Juanita
<[email protected]> wrote:

> Why in the world do you want to do this?

It's the same troll. Over and over again. It's not Bob McClenon.

--
"I'm a man, but I can change... If I have to... I guess." -- Red Green

On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 03:29:44 GMT, Robert McClenon
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Sun, 06 Mar 2005 20:32:43 -0600, Dave Balderstone
><dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_S.balderstone.ca> wrote:
>
>>In article <[email protected]>, Mark & Juanita
>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Why in the world do you want to do this?
>>
>>It's the same troll. Over and over again. It's not Bob McClenon.
>
>Sort of. Not exactly over and over again. The troll posted on 12
>January, and is getting a late reply to the same troll post. In this
>case, the problem is not the troll, but people responding to the troll
>after the troll has moved on to doing damage somewhere else.
>
> - - Bob McClenon

I think a news-server somewhere burped and pulled up some old postings.




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WD <[email protected]> writes:
>On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:17:17 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Yeah, uniforms with brown shirts and a logo.
>
>With a RED SWASTIKA, or maybe a WHITE, hood and robe?
>
>

Yeah, prince harry has one he no longer needs.

scott

On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:13:23 GMT, TWS <[email protected]> wrote:

>On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 05:20:18 -0500, "J. Clarke"
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>This could be the same guy and if everybody ignores him then he might win
>>his vote by default and become the moderator, which in his case will be
>>semantically equivalent to "dictator".
>Since newsgroups are the only true democracy

LOL!
Tons closer to anarchy then any democracy I've experienced.

> there isn't much chance
>of anyone becoming a dictator. People just wouldn't participate in
>'his' newsgroup and would simply move somewhere else. A PITA for sure
>but not really a dictator. Fortunately this jerk is a TROLL and isn't
>likely to do anything but stir up this otherwise 'bored' group ;-)
>TWS

How about conservative jackass?

s2s wrote:
> Doug Miller wrote:
>
>>Yeah, right. Funny how there's no mention of that over there...
>>
>>Folks, this is a troll. Somebody's trying to stir the pot here, or
>
> stir
>
>>up trouble for the *real* Robert McClenon, or both. Let's just let
>
> this
>
>>thread die, shall we?
>
>
> Aw.
> Couldn't we argue just a little bit over whether he's a conservative
> troll or a liberal troll?
>

> The NAN moderators have lifted the ban on accepting proposals to
> convert unmoderated groups to moderated groups. I will be submitting a
> proposal (RFD) to make rec.woodworking a candidate for moderation,
> after a passing vote (CFV). Please look for the RFD. It will be posted
> here.
>
> Thanks, and feedback welcome.

Ok. Here's mine. Please stick your self-rightous head up your butt and
waddle out of here.

Mark & Juanita wrote:

> I seriously doubt you are going to welcome the feedback
> you get regarding this.

You will have your opportunity to vote.

> Particularly since this appears to only be the second
> posting you've made to rec.ww, the other posting was also
> participating in a thread dealing with creating a moderated
> woodworking group.

None of that matters when submitting an RFD. I have been a very long
time lurker, and lurkers rights are equal to posters rights on Usenet.

> Why in the world do you want to do this?

This house is a mess; time to clean it up. I will submit the RFD within
24 hours. Voting will start about 21 days later. I have a *very* good
feeling that the vote will pass, and that I will become the moderator
of rec.woodworking by next month. I suggest you start being a little
nicer to me if you want me to pay attention to your ideas during the
RFD process.


Bob McClenon
[email protected]

[email protected] wrote:

> This house is a mess; time to clean it up. I will submit the RFD
within
> 24 hours. Voting will start about 21 days later. I have a *very* good
> feeling that the vote will pass, and that I will become the moderator
> of rec.woodworking by next month. I suggest you start being a little
> nicer to me if you want me to pay attention to your ideas during the
> RFD process.
>
>
> Bob McClenon
> [email protected]

Hey Bobby boy,
as a long time lurker and a past poster here
I think your really trying to mess up a good thing.
Out side of a few curse words ,I find NOTHING to biotch about in this
forum.
Now ,maybe,having read this group through google maybe eliminates the
porn listings (which I've yet to see any ) but I see nothing here I
wouldn't let my 16 yr old daughter see.
YOU can count on my vote being against ya -you self rightous troll
Jim Misener

Doug Miller wrote:
> Yeah, right. Funny how there's no mention of that over there...
>
> Folks, this is a troll. Somebody's trying to stir the pot here, or
stir
> up trouble for the *real* Robert McClenon, or both. Let's just let
this
> thread die, shall we?

Aw.
Couldn't we argue just a little bit over whether he's a conservative
troll or a liberal troll?

> I suggest you start being a little nicer to me.
This is a joke, right?

Guess who wrote:
> On 12 Jan 2005 22:14:32 -0800, "[email protected]"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >The NAN moderators have lifted the ban on accepting proposals to
> >convert unmoderated groups to moderated groups. I will be submitting
a
> >proposal (RFD) to make rec.woodworking a candidate for moderation,
> >after a passing vote (CFV). Please look for the RFD. It will be
posted
> >here.
> >
> >Thanks, and feedback welcome.
>
> So long as you're not the moderator I'll think on it. I'd rather put
> up with the OT crap, which is easily deleted. Like sorting through
> junk regular mail, it's now instinctive and on automatic, and takes
> seconds. This troll topic is on that list now.

Wow! I go offline for a few days and look what happens. Why can't you
guys just play nice? It was a nice newsgroup when I left and now
you're all up in arms. What ever happened to the old group where we
talked about wood, and new tools for Christmas, and finishing, and
cutting your weiner with a saw stop. That's the way I liked it! If I
had it my way I would..... Hey maybe I could be the moderator?
Whaddya say? How about a vote for me? I'm off to plan my election
strategy. Don't start without me. I'll be right back....

John DeBoo wrote:

Your time would be better spent learning
> how to use msg filters.

Well, even though it isn't necessarily the best for your health, a
little MSG can be good for flavor. :^)

Jon Larsson

Mike Granby wrote:
> > I suggest you start being a little nicer to me.
> This is a joke, right?

Sort of. But I think the more accurate term is "troll." I think he's
gonna wish he'd used some heavier line.

Cheers,
Mike

This is a forgery, people. Bob McCLenon does not post through Google.

Wait, there will be more under a variety of names. We've seen this
before.

djb

--
"The thing about saying the wrong words is that A, I don't notice it, and B,
sometimes orange water gibbon bucket and plastic." -- Mr. Burrows

In article <[email protected]>, Robert
McClenon <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:42:41 -0600, Dave Balderstone
> <dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_S.balderstone.ca> wrote:
>
> >This is a forgery, people. Bob McCLenon does not post through Google
> >
> >Wait, there will be more under a variety of names. We've seen this
> >before.
>
> Including a false Dave Balderstone.
>
> What the troll did was to illustrate that a large number of
> rec.woodworking posters are not familiar with what a troll is and how
> to respond to it (typically by ignoring it).
>
> - - Bob McClenon

Unfortunately, rec.woodworking is something of a smorgasborg for trolls
for exactly that reason.

The apppearance of the "false Dave Balderstone" as I predicted
demonstrates that the troll is actively following this newsgroup and
feeding off the responses.

djb

--
"The thing about saying the wrong words is that A, I don't notice it, and B,
sometimes orange water gibbon bucket and plastic." -- Mr. Burrows

"[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote in
message
> This house is a mess; time to clean it up. I will submit the RFD within
> 24 hours. Voting will start about 21 days later. I have a *very* good
> feeling that the vote will pass, and that I will become the moderator
> of rec.woodworking by next month. I suggest you start being a little
> nicer to me if you want me to pay attention to your ideas during the
> RFD process.
>
>
> Bob McClenon
> [email protected]
>

Well thanks Robert. About time someone stepped up and took action. As you
can see, some of the guys here are not nice. Not my fault, I've often said,
"guys, you gotta be nice'. Sometimes I've said "guys, you gotta stop
posting off topic stuff here." They just don't listen to me but I'm sure
they will listen to you. You've got a lot of charisma.

Will you be needing as assistant? We could do this together. Maybe get
uniforms. Yeah, uniforms with brown shirts and a logo. We can get business
cards and have a title after our names. You can be the head monitor. In
some languages that would translate to "monitor of the head". Catchy huh?

Whattuya think? Damn, this is exciting.

If anyone wants a moderated group without all the spam, racial junk and
trolls, this is a pretty good one.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WoodWorkingForEveryone/?yguid=204197366

Wed, Jan 12, 2005, 10:14pm (EST-3) [email protected]
([email protected]) trolls us with:
The NAN moderators have lifted the ban on accepting proposals to convert
unmoderated groups to moderated groups. I will be submitting a proposal
(RFD) to make rec.woodworking a candidate for moderation, after a
passing vote (CFV). Please look for the RFD. It will be posted here.
Thanks, and feedback welcome.

Another day, another dorky troll.



JOAT
Success is getting what you want.
Happiness is wanting what you get.
- =A0Dale Carnegie

If it aint broke, don't fix it......basic industrial standard.

On 12 Jan 2005 22:14:32 -0800, "[email protected]"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>The NAN moderators have lifted the ban on accepting proposals to
>convert unmoderated groups to moderated groups. I will be submitting a
>proposal (RFD) to make rec.woodworking a candidate for moderation,
>after a passing vote (CFV). Please look for the RFD. It will be posted
>here.
>
>Thanks, and feedback welcome.


go away, netcop wannabe.

> This house is a mess; time to clean it up. I will submit the RFD within
> 24 hours. Voting will start about 21 days later. I have a *very* good
> feeling that the vote will pass, and that I will become the moderator
> of rec.woodworking by next month.

Hmm... I'd give you around 25% chance unless there is some sort of
cheat-the-vote process I'm not aware of...

> I suggest you start being a little
> nicer to me if you want me to pay attention to your ideas during the
> RFD process.

...Make that 2%. Although I like the idea of a moderated group, I suggest
starting a brand new group to do so. With that last statement, I doubt many
will support you beign the moderator. Moderation takes clear, emotionless
thought and the ability to judge a post for its content regardless of
whether you think the looney who wrote it is an oxygen theif or not.
--


Regards,
Joe Agro, Jr.
http://www.autodrill.com
http://www.multi-spindle-heads.com

V8013

My eBay: http://tinyurl.com/4hpnc

[email protected] wrote:
> Mark & Juanita wrote:
>
>
>> I seriously doubt you are going to welcome the feedback
>>you get regarding this.
>
>
> You will have your opportunity to vote.
>
>
>>Particularly since this appears to only be the second
>>posting you've made to rec.ww, the other posting was also
>>participating in a thread dealing with creating a moderated
>>woodworking group.
>
>
> None of that matters when submitting an RFD. I have been a very long
> time lurker, and lurkers rights are equal to posters rights on Usenet.
>
>
>> Why in the world do you want to do this?
>
>
> This house is a mess; time to clean it up. I will submit the RFD within
> 24 hours. Voting will start about 21 days later. I have a *very* good
> feeling that the vote will pass, and that I will become the moderator
> of rec.woodworking by next month. I suggest you start being a little
> nicer to me if you want me to pay attention to your ideas during the
> RFD process.
>
>
> Bob McClenon
> [email protected]
>

So you alrready setup the fake email accounts you're planning on
using to stuff the ballot box. Still not likely to happen.
Joe

On 12 Jan 2005 22:14:32 -0800, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
> The NAN moderators have lifted the ban on accepting proposals to
> convert unmoderated groups to moderated groups. I will be submitting a
> proposal (RFD) to make rec.woodworking a candidate for moderation,
> after a passing vote (CFV). Please look for the RFD. It will be posted
> here.
>
> Thanks, and feedback welcome.

Here's some feedback for you...

1. Who are you?
2. Why do you think this group needs moderation?
3. Are you aware of the recent failure along similar lines, and the
reasons for same?
4. Who are you?

On 12 Jan 2005 23:45:32 -0800, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> This house is a mess; time to clean it up. I will submit the RFD within
> 24 hours. Voting will start about 21 days later. I have a *very* good
> feeling that the vote will pass, and that I will become the moderator
> of rec.woodworking by next month. I suggest you start being a little
> nicer to me if you want me to pay attention to your ideas during the
> RFD process.

Everybody needs to read that again. The guy who never posts here
wants us to suck up to him, because he feels he's gonna be the new
moderator.

I think I speak for more than myself when I say this: "Fuck off,
[email protected]".

John DeBoo wrote:
> [email protected] wrote:
>
>> Mark & Juanita wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I seriously doubt you are going to welcome the feedback
>>> you get regarding this.
>>>
>>
>>
>> You will have your opportunity to vote.
>>
>>
>>> Particularly since this appears to only be the second
>>> posting you've made to rec.ww, the other posting was also
>>> participating in a thread dealing with creating a moderated
>>> woodworking group.
>>>
>>
>>
>> None of that matters when submitting an RFD. I have been a very long
>> time lurker, and lurkers rights are equal to posters rights on Usenet.
>>
>>
>>> Why in the world do you want to do this?
>>>
>>
>>
>> This house is a mess; time to clean it up. I will submit the RFD within
>> 24 hours. Voting will start about 21 days later. I have a *very* good
>> feeling that the vote will pass, and that I will become the moderator
>> of rec.woodworking by next month. I suggest you start being a little
>> nicer to me if you want me to pay attention to your ideas during the
>> RFD process.
>>
>> Bob McClenon
>> [email protected]
>>
> Another self righteous prick who wants to push his personal agenda on
> others. Freaking liberals! Your time would be better spent learning
> how to use msg filters.
>


Learn something? You're way too mean to be allowed on the new
group. Wait, I already said it won't happen, does this mean I'm
mean, or just confused. Maybe I should go lurk elsewhere. Is
there anywhere else?
Joe

Robert -

With all due respect....

Piss Off!

(that's MY vote!)

"[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote in
message news:[email protected]...
> Mark & Juanita wrote:
>
>> I seriously doubt you are going to welcome the feedback
>> you get regarding this.
>
> You will have your opportunity to vote.
>
>> Particularly since this appears to only be the second
>> posting you've made to rec.ww, the other posting was also
>> participating in a thread dealing with creating a moderated
>> woodworking group.
>
> None of that matters when submitting an RFD. I have been a very long
> time lurker, and lurkers rights are equal to posters rights on Usenet.
>
>> Why in the world do you want to do this?
>
> This house is a mess; time to clean it up. I will submit the RFD within
> 24 hours. Voting will start about 21 days later. I have a *very* good
> feeling that the vote will pass, and that I will become the moderator
> of rec.woodworking by next month. I suggest you start being a little
> nicer to me if you want me to pay attention to your ideas during the
> RFD process.
>
>
> Bob McClenon
> [email protected]
>

In news:[email protected] <[email protected]> typed:
> I have a *very* good
> feeling that the vote will pass, and that I will become the moderator
> of rec.woodworking by next month. I suggest you start being a little
> nicer to me if you want me to pay attention to your ideas during the
> RFD process.
>
>
> Bob McClenon
> [email protected]

Thanks for the laugh! hahahahhohohohohohahahahaha!
--
Ted Harris
http://www.tedharris.com

On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 05:20:18 -0500, "J. Clarke"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>This could be the same guy and if everybody ignores him then he might win
>his vote by default and become the moderator, which in his case will be
>semantically equivalent to "dictator".
Since newsgroups are the only true democracy there isn't much chance
of anyone becoming a dictator. People just wouldn't participate in
'his' newsgroup and would simply move somewhere else. A PITA for sure
but not really a dictator. Fortunately this jerk is a TROLL and isn't
likely to do anything but stir up this otherwise 'bored' group ;-)
TWS

"[email protected]" <[email protected]> schreef in
bericht news:[email protected]...
> The NAN moderators have lifted the ban on accepting proposals to
> convert unmoderated groups to moderated groups. I will be submitting a
> proposal (RFD) to make rec.woodworking a candidate for moderation,
> after a passing vote (CFV). Please look for the RFD. It will be posted
> here.
>
> Thanks, and feedback welcome.



Take a woodstick and a knife, or take a hobby.

ijsman, The Netherlands


>

Do the letters FO mean anything to you?

"[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote in
message > This house is a mess; time to clean it up. I will submit the RFD
within
> 24 hours. Voting will start about 21 days later. I have a *very* good
> feeling that the vote will pass, and that I will become the moderator
> of rec.woodworking by next month. I suggest you start being a little
> nicer to me if you want me to pay attention to your ideas during the
> RFD process.
>
>
> Bob McClenon
> [email protected]
>

Don't put the tongue too far into the cheek or you might hurt yourself! Gotta
love this one.



Edwin Pawlowski wrote:

> "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote in
> message
> > This house is a mess; time to clean it up. I will submit the RFD within
> > 24 hours. Voting will start about 21 days later. I have a *very* good
> > feeling that the vote will pass, and that I will become the moderator
> > of rec.woodworking by next month. I suggest you start being a little
> > nicer to me if you want me to pay attention to your ideas during the
> > RFD process.
> >
> >
> > Bob McClenon
> > [email protected]
> >
>
> Well thanks Robert. About time someone stepped up and took action. As you
> can see, some of the guys here are not nice. Not my fault, I've often said,
> "guys, you gotta be nice'. Sometimes I've said "guys, you gotta stop
> posting off topic stuff here." They just don't listen to me but I'm sure
> they will listen to you. You've got a lot of charisma.
>
> Will you be needing as assistant? We could do this together. Maybe get
> uniforms. Yeah, uniforms with brown shirts and a logo. We can get business
> cards and have a title after our names. You can be the head monitor. In
> some languages that would translate to "monitor of the head". Catchy huh?
>
> Whattuya think? Damn, this is exciting.

Robert (BAD?) said:
>I will be submitting a proposal (RFD) to make rec.woodworking a candidate
>for moderation,
> Thanks, and feedback welcome.

I think it would be like screaming underwater.

Back to making shavings.

Dave

Well, judging from the response, I guess it's decided!!

"[email protected]" <[email protected]> writes:

>This house is a mess; time to clean it up. I will submit the RFD within
>24 hours. Voting will start about 21 days later. I have a *very* good
>feeling that the vote will pass, and that I will become the moderator
>of rec.woodworking by next month.

Not bloody likely.


> I suggest you start being a little
>nicer to me if you want me to pay attention to your ideas during the
>RFD process.

Well, you just shot your chances as moderator, pal.

scott

>
>
>Bob McClenon
>[email protected]
>

Why would you want to stick you nose into something that you do not
participate in??

For get it.

"[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote in
message news:[email protected]...
> The NAN moderators have lifted the ban on accepting proposals to
> convert unmoderated groups to moderated groups. I will be submitting a
> proposal (RFD) to make rec.woodworking a candidate for moderation,
> after a passing vote (CFV). Please look for the RFD. It will be posted
> here.
>
> Thanks, and feedback welcome.
>

On 12 Jan 2005 22:14:32 -0800, "[email protected]"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>The NAN moderators have lifted the ban on accepting proposals to
>convert unmoderated groups to moderated groups. I will be submitting a
>proposal (RFD) to make rec.woodworking a candidate for moderation,
>after a passing vote (CFV). Please look for the RFD. It will be posted
>here.
>
>Thanks, and feedback welcome.


Comin’ to ya on a Usenet road
Bullshit I got a truck load
And when you get it you got nuthin'
So don’t worry cause I’m coming

I’m a troll man
I’m a troll man
I’m a troll man
I’m a troll man

(apologies to sam and dave and jake and elwood)



tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet (real email)
http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1 (webpage)

On 13 Jan 2005 10:07:12 -0800, "JLarsson" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
>John DeBoo wrote:
>
>Your time would be better spent learning
>> how to use msg filters.
>
>Well, even though it isn't necessarily the best for your health, a
>little MSG can be good for flavor. :^)
>
>Jon Larsson

I thought that the health hazard was reduced quite a bit when the msg
was filtered??

damn! that was off topic... I think I hear a black helicopter coming
this way..



mac

Please remove splinters before emailing

On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:30:05 -0500, "Tom Kearney"
<[email protected]> wrote:

good job, Tom...
I was going to reply to him, but couldn't think of enough one syllable
words...

>Robert -
>
> With all due respect....
>
> Piss Off!
>
> (that's MY vote!)
>
>"[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote in
>message news:[email protected]...
>> Mark & Juanita wrote:
>>
>>> I seriously doubt you are going to welcome the feedback
>>> you get regarding this.
>>
>> You will have your opportunity to vote.
>>
>>> Particularly since this appears to only be the second
>>> posting you've made to rec.ww, the other posting was also
>>> participating in a thread dealing with creating a moderated
>>> woodworking group.
>>
>> None of that matters when submitting an RFD. I have been a very long
>> time lurker, and lurkers rights are equal to posters rights on Usenet.
>>
>>> Why in the world do you want to do this?
>>
>> This house is a mess; time to clean it up. I will submit the RFD within
>> 24 hours. Voting will start about 21 days later. I have a *very* good
>> feeling that the vote will pass, and that I will become the moderator
>> of rec.woodworking by next month. I suggest you start being a little
>> nicer to me if you want me to pay attention to your ideas during the
>> RFD process.
>>
>>
>> Bob McClenon
>> [email protected]
>>
>



mac

Please remove splinters before emailing

"s2s" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Doug Miller wrote:
>> Yeah, right. Funny how there's no mention of that over there...
>>
>> Folks, this is a troll. Somebody's trying to stir the pot here, or
> stir
>> up trouble for the *real* Robert McClenon, or both. Let's just let
> this
>> thread die, shall we?
>
> Aw.
> Couldn't we argue just a little bit over whether he's a conservative
> troll or a liberal troll?
>

Absolutely a Liberal Troll. You know the type, they want to take care of
EVERY BODY.

On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:42:41 -0600, Dave Balderstone
<dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_S.balderstone.ca> wrote:

>This is a forgery, people. Bob McCLenon does not post through Google
>
>Wait, there will be more under a variety of names. We've seen this
>before.

Including a false Dave Balderstone.

What the troll did was to illustrate that a large number of
rec.woodworking posters are not familiar with what a troll is and how
to respond to it (typically by ignoring it).

- - Bob McClenon

While I admit I would like to see this area become something my son could
learn from in a few years (he can't even read now) without fear of exposure
to the porn and drug trolls, I would never support a person with the
attitude displayed below.

> Mark & Juanita wrote:
>
>> I seriously doubt you are going to welcome the feedback
>> you get regarding this.

(snip)

>Voting will start about 21 days later. I have a *very* good
> feeling that the vote will pass, and that I will become the moderator
> of rec.woodworking by next month. I suggest you start being a little
> nicer to me if you want me to pay attention to your ideas during the
> RFD process.
>
>
> Bob McClenon
> [email protected]
>

On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:57:40 -0500, "J. Clarke"
<[email protected]> wrote:


>
>Are you sure he's not the same guy who brought it to a vote a couple of
>months back?
>
Nah, that guy at least made a pretense at being objective. This guy
has no subtlety and his only purpose is to piss us all off. Troll of
the worst kind.

TWS

"[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote in
message news:[email protected]...
>
> None of that matters when submitting an RFD. I have been a very long
> time lurker, and lurkers rights are equal to posters rights on Usenet.
>

Yes they are equal. You have the equal right to go piss up a rope if you
don't like what's going on here.


Frank

On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 22:33:38 -0800, "mp" <[email protected]> wrote:

>> The NAN moderators have lifted the ban on accepting proposals to
>> convert unmoderated groups to moderated groups. I will be submitting a
>> proposal (RFD) to make rec.woodworking a candidate for moderation,
>> after a passing vote (CFV). Please look for the RFD. It will be posted
>> here.
>>
>> Thanks, and feedback welcome.
>
>Ok. Here's mine. Please stick your self-rightous head up your butt and
>waddle out of here.
>
having spent many pleasant years on newsgroups, and I've seen many dry
up and blow away.
the chief cause of NG death is lack of interest, usually cause by
getting your wish, a strictly on-topic, polite place to not spend
time..

If you look at the threads that gather the most responses, you'll see
that most of them are OT or stated on-topic and went OT quickly..
that's a GOOD thing... newsgroups are made up of people, and people
bs, tell jokes and talk about a wide range of things...
take that away, and the only sound you'll hear is the echo of your own
farts..


mac

Please remove splinters before emailing

no one moderator could do the job anyway. it would take several dedicated
people. ok who has several hours a day to spend on wreck.wood??

--
Knight-Toolworks & Custom Planes
Custom made wooden planes at reasonable prices
See http://www.knight-toolworks.com For prices and ordering instructions.

Hi Andy,

Do a google search on both e-mail addresses. Interesting reading, especially
those messages sent to ISPs (usually multiple).

Regards,

Rick

"Andy Dingley" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:23:25 -0800, Gino <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >Is every one THAT bored???
>
> The last moderation troll took a lot of beating with a verybig stick
> before they went away. Best to start early.
>
> And who's to say it's really a troll, vs. a control-freak ?
>

"[email protected]" <[email protected]> writes:
>The NAN moderators have lifted the ban on accepting proposals to
>convert unmoderated groups to moderated groups. I will be submitting a
>proposal (RFD) to make rec.woodworking a candidate for moderation,
>after a passing vote (CFV). Please look for the RFD. It will be posted
>here.
>
>Thanks, and feedback welcome.
>


Initial feedback - go away. You're not wanted here.


scott

"[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote in
message news:[email protected]...
> Mark & Juanita wrote:
>
> > I seriously doubt you are going to welcome the feedback
> > you get regarding this.
>
> You will have your opportunity to vote.
>
> > Particularly since this appears to only be the second
> > posting you've made to rec.ww, the other posting was also
> > participating in a thread dealing with creating a moderated
> > woodworking group.
>
> None of that matters when submitting an RFD. I have been a very long
> time lurker, and lurkers rights are equal to posters rights on Usenet.
>
> > Why in the world do you want to do this?
>
> This house is a mess; time to clean it up. I will submit the RFD within
> 24 hours. Voting will start about 21 days later. I have a *very* good
> feeling that the vote will pass, and that I will become the moderator
> of rec.woodworking by next month. I suggest you start being a little
> nicer to me if you want me to pay attention to your ideas during the
> RFD process.
>

Oh great. Another one of the great saviors of all things messed up. Maybe
you'd be better off if you didn't even bother to lurk, let alone post, if
this place bothers you so much.
--

-Mike-
[email protected]

In article <[email protected]>, "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Not so--note that nearly all are ignoring the racial epithet trolling now
>going on. The moderation thing, on the other hand, is a hot button for the
>group.

Anyone who's using my filter file with Nfilter is not seeing that
racial-epithet trolling at all. Which might account for lack of response to
it. I didn't even know it was there until I visited Google Groups to search
for more information about the other troll threads in hopes of finding
something to filter against.

--
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Joe Wells wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 22:14:32 -0800, [email protected] wrote:
>
>
>>The NAN moderators have lifted the ban on accepting proposals to convert
>>unmoderated groups to moderated groups. I will be submitting a proposal
>>(RFD) to make rec.woodworking a candidate for moderation, after a passing
>>vote (CFV). Please look for the RFD. It will be posted here.
>>
>>Thanks, and feedback welcome.
>
>
> Here's some early feedback for ya:
> http://amishrakefight.org/gfy/
>

Well you nailed my skanky butt on that one. I'm sure that under the
emperor McClenon that sort of horseplay would be emphatically
disallowed. LOL.
mahalo,
jo4hn

[email protected] wrote:
> The NAN moderators have lifted the ban on accepting proposals to
> convert unmoderated groups to moderated groups. I will be submitting a
> proposal (RFD) to make rec.woodworking a candidate for moderation,
> after a passing vote (CFV). Please look for the RFD. It will be posted
> here.
>
> Thanks, and feedback welcome.



Another control freak heard from. Or are you just a troll?

Didn't we just go through this not two months ago? It fell on its ass, just
like this will.




--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN

[email protected]

> "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > This house is a mess; time to clean it up. I will submit the RFD within
> > 24 hours. Voting will start about 21 days later. I have a *very* good
> > feeling that the vote will pass, and that I will become the moderator
> > of rec.woodworking by next month. I suggest you start being a little
> > nicer to me if you want me to pay attention to your ideas during the
> > RFD process.

OK everybody, lets use the above email addreses to tell Robert where to go.

[email protected] wrote:
> The NAN moderators have lifted the ban on accepting proposals to
> convert unmoderated groups to moderated groups. I will be submitting a
> proposal (RFD) to make rec.woodworking a candidate for moderation,
> after a passing vote (CFV). Please look for the RFD. It will be posted
> here.
>
> Thanks, and feedback welcome.

Excellent! For too many years this group has been full of so much filth!
What according to google groups, here are some word distributions:

woodie: 245 (my god, it seems like a favorite topic. pervs)

stroking wood: 23. Ok, not *so* common, but more then enough to be
worriesome, especially for impressionable young children!

cross dressing: 26 hits. I am seriously worried. I just wanted my kids
to be lumberjacks, and now the little punks are dressing up like women
and hanging around in bars!

dressing wood: 67 hits. 'nuff said.

You are absolutely right. And I didn't even cover glory hole (22 hits),
pole sucking (1 hit), greasing wood (6 hits).

What a horrible, horrible place. Clean it up, please!

PK

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> The NAN moderators have lifted the ban on accepting proposals to
> convert unmoderated groups to moderated groups. I will be submitting a
> proposal (RFD) to make rec.woodworking a candidate for moderation,
> after a passing vote (CFV). Please look for the RFD. It will be posted
> here.
>
> Thanks, and feedback welcome.
>
>


Just got our MBA did we?

--
Mike G.
Heirloom Woods
[email protected]
www.heirloom-woods.net

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> If it aint broke, don't fix it......basic industrial standard.
>
>
No, No, No. That is the old standard.

The new one is "If it ain't broke out source it till it is and
impossible to repair"


--
Mike G.
Heirloom Woods
[email protected]
www.heirloom-woods.net

(snip) This house is a mess; time to clean it up

If it's time to take out the trash, you are the first POS that should go
BOB.

(snip) I suggest you start being a little nicer to me if you want me to pay
attention to your ideas during the RFD process.

Just who the hell do you think you are? GFY ya LOSER.


(snip) lurkers rights are equal to posters rights on Usenet.

Maybe we should vote on this. Maybe it would keep ignorant, arrogant,
ASSHOLES like yourself from trying to moderate something you know absolutely
NOTHING about.

If this vote did pass, I vote we start a new group:
rec.woodworking.unmoderated.fu-q-BOB

Bob, I'm REALLY gonna ENJOY shooting you down --dave



"[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote in
message news:[email protected]...
> Mark & Juanita wrote:
>
>> I seriously doubt you are going to welcome the feedback
>> you get regarding this.
>
> You will have your opportunity to vote.
>
>> Particularly since this appears to only be the second
>> posting you've made to rec.ww, the other posting was also
>> participating in a thread dealing with creating a moderated
>> woodworking group.
>
> None of that matters when submitting an RFD. I have been a very long
> time lurker, and lurkers rights are equal to posters rights on Usenet.
>
>> Why in the world do you want to do this?
>
> This house is a mess; time to clean it up. I will submit the RFD within
> 24 hours. Voting will start about 21 days later. I have a *very* good
> feeling that the vote will pass, and that I will become the moderator
> of rec.woodworking by next month. I suggest you start being a little
> nicer to me if you want me to pay attention to your ideas during the
> RFD process.
>
>
> Bob McClenon
> [email protected]
>

this sounds familiar...

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> The NAN moderators have lifted the ban on accepting proposals to
> convert unmoderated groups to moderated groups.

Yeah, right. Funny how there's no mention of that over there...

Folks, this is a troll. Somebody's trying to stir the pot here, or stir
up trouble for the *real* Robert McClenon, or both. Let's just let this
thread die, shall we?

some troll wrote:

> This house is a mess; time to clean it up. I will submit the
> RFD within 24 hours. Voting will start about 21 days later. I
> have a *very* good feeling that the vote will pass, and that I
> will become the moderator of rec.woodworking by next month. I
> suggest you start being a little nicer to me if you want me to
> pay attention to your ideas during the RFD process.

[A "Group W" reject - Must be Robert again.]

Hello, Robert. Be careful what you wish for.

--
Morris Dovey
Here it comes 'round again -
You can get anything you want...

In article <[email protected]>, Andy Dingley <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:23:25 -0800, Gino <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Is every one THAT bored???
>
>The last moderation troll took a lot of beating with a verybig stick
>before they went away. Best to start early.

It's precisely because "a lot of beating" occurred that it took so long for
the troll to go away. Trolls seek attention; when they are denied it in a
particular venue, they go elsewhere in a big hurry. Witness, for example, the
case of Bay Area Dave, who disappeared within a few days after the group
finally reached a public consensus to never, ever, respond to any of his
posts.

Best to ignore it altogether.
>
>And who's to say it's really a troll, vs. a control-freak ?

For starters, the post is a lie.

--
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On Thu 13 Jan 2005 06:28:00a, "Knothead"
<[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> Isn't there some other friggin
> liberal cause you can go champion besides annoying the rest of us that
> don't want your magnanimous attention?
>

Actually I thought he looked more like a conservative.

On Thu 13 Jan 2005 08:49:41p, Steve Knight <[email protected]>
wrote in news:[email protected]:

> ok who has several hours a day to spend on wreck.wood??
>

From what I've seen there's quite a few. I just don't know if I'd trust 'em
as moderators.
:-)

On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:17:17 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Yeah, uniforms with brown shirts and a logo.

With a RED SWASTIKA, or maybe a WHITE, hood and robe?

Go away. Go far away. Go far away and never return

You're welcome


"[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote in
message news:[email protected]...
<Snip of a bunch of useless garbage>


>feedback welcome.
>

On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 09:01:35 -0800, Gino <[email protected]> wrote:

>>Since newsgroups are the only true democracy
>
>LOL!
>Tons closer to anarchy then any democracy I've experienced.
>
I guess I have to concede on that one. There certainly is no 'rule'
here.
TWS

On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:23:25 -0800, Gino <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>Is every one THAT bored???
Yes, which explains why most of the posts that get a large number of
responses are of this ilk. Mostly silly and off topic. Hey! Maybe
we should have this newsgroup moderated...
Just kidding!!! REALLY! I didn't mean it...

Actually I like to think of newsgroups, this one in particular, to be
like the old general store. People hang out and talk about
woodworking but most of those conversations are short, and quickly
resolved (after all, how many ways can you stain cherry? Just
kidding! - I really don't want to know) but talk about something that
gets people riled up - well, now you've got yourself a 'discussion'.
Who would want it any other way?

Oh yeah, that idiot troll.

TWS

On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:23:25 -0800, Gino <[email protected]> wrote:

>Is every one THAT bored???

The last moderation troll took a lot of beating with a verybig stick
before they went away. Best to start early.

And who's to say it's really a troll, vs. a control-freak ?

George wrote:
>> "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> Mark & Juanita wrote:
>>>
>>> This house is a mess; time to clean it up. I will submit the RFD
>>> within 24 hours. Voting will start about 21 days later. I have a
>>> *very* good feeling that the vote will pass, and that I will become
>>> the moderator of rec.woodworking by next month. I suggest you start
>>> being a little nicer to me if you want me to pay attention to your
>>> ideas during the RFD process.
>>>
>>>
>>> Bob McClenon
>>> [email protected]
>>
>>
>> The above threat that you made establishes that you are not fit to
>> moderate a newsgroup. Moderating is not the same as blocking people
>> because you carry a petty grudge against them.
>> I suggest that you petition to form a new NG called
>> rec.woodworking.emperor_mcclenon where you could openly wield your
>> threats and rule with an iron fist. That way your impact on rec
>> woodworking will match your contributions to the group.
>> I encourage all readers of rec.woodworking to forward a copy of Mr
>> McClenon's threat to the appropriate people at usenet post haste so
>> as to have the RFD rejected as an attempt at power seeking.
>>
>> George Anderson

To whom do we send comments?

Josie

"Gino" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:22:37 -0500, Guess who <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
> >On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:23:25 -0800, Gino <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >>I've never seen a 'mature' news group respond like this.
> >
> >That's the beginning and end of it. Most trolls here are labelled OT,
> >as if it makes a difference.
>
> I worded the sentence poorly.
> I was referring to the age of the group not the maturity of it's members.
> Most 'mature' groups have seen so many trolls over the years they mostly
go
> completely ignored but not here at the wreck.:)

Funny - I see that very comment made about most usenet groups. It seems
every other group handles things better than the one the poster is posting
about.
--

-Mike-
[email protected]

On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:49:41 -0800, Steve Knight
<[email protected]> wrote:

>no one moderator could do the job anyway. it would take several dedicated
>people. ok who has several hours a day to spend on wreck.wood??

not me... I already spend several hours a day wrecking wood..
(but I have lots of really cool kindling)


mac

Please remove splinters before emailing

[email protected] wrote:

> The NAN moderators have lifted the ban on accepting proposals to
> convert unmoderated groups to moderated groups. I will be submitting a
> proposal (RFD) to make rec.woodworking a candidate for moderation,
> after a passing vote (CFV). Please look for the RFD. It will be posted
> here.
>
> Thanks, and feedback welcome.

Just sod off and get a life.

--
--John
Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

"[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote in
message news:[email protected]...
> Mark & Juanita wrote:
>
> This house is a mess; time to clean it up. I will submit the RFD within
> 24 hours. Voting will start about 21 days later. I have a *very* good
> feeling that the vote will pass, and that I will become the moderator
> of rec.woodworking by next month. I suggest you start being a little
> nicer to me if you want me to pay attention to your ideas during the
> RFD process.
>
>
> Bob McClenon
> [email protected]


The above threat that you made establishes that you are not fit to moderate
a newsgroup. Moderating is not the same as blocking people because you carry
a petty grudge against them.
I suggest that you petition to form a new NG called
rec.woodworking.emperor_mcclenon where you could openly wield your threats
and rule with an iron fist. That way your impact on rec woodworking will
match your contributions to the group.
I encourage all readers of rec.woodworking to forward a copy of Mr
McClenon's threat to the appropriate people at usenet post haste so as to
have the RFD rejected as an attempt at power seeking.

George Anderson

I got your feedback you friggin troll. Didn't the last exercise in this
demonstrate we don't want you kind here? Isn't there some other friggin
liberal cause you can go champion besides annoying the rest of us that don't
want your magnanimous attention?

Dan Says:
Actually I thought he looked more like a conservative.

I always get the two confused, aren't the liberals the ones that want to
have safe round edges on everything?

Look at this boneheads posts in News.Groups. He's a Troll and this isn't
happening

Awwwwright! Tuna for lunch!

-j

"[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote in
message news:[email protected]...
> The NAN moderators have lifted the ban on accepting proposals to
> convert unmoderated groups to moderated groups. I will be submitting a
> proposal (RFD) to make rec.woodworking a candidate for moderation,
> after a passing vote (CFV). Please look for the RFD. It will be posted
> here.
>
> Thanks, and feedback welcome.
>

Edwin Pawlowski wrote:

>"[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote in
>message
>
>
>>This house is a mess; time to clean it up. I will submit the RFD within
>>24 hours. Voting will start about 21 days later. I have a *very* good
>>feeling that the vote will pass, and that I will become the moderator
>>of rec.woodworking by next month. I suggest you start being a little
>>nicer to me if you want me to pay attention to your ideas during the
>>RFD process.
>>
>>
>>Bob McClenon
>>[email protected]
>>
>>
>>
>
>Well thanks Robert. About time someone stepped up and took action. As you
>can see, some of the guys here are not nice. Not my fault, I've often said,
>"guys, you gotta be nice'. Sometimes I've said "guys, you gotta stop
>posting off topic stuff here." They just don't listen to me but I'm sure
>they will listen to you. You've got a lot of charisma.
>
>Will you be needing as assistant? We could do this together. Maybe get
>uniforms. Yeah, uniforms with brown shirts and a logo. We can get business
>cards and have a title after our names. You can be the head monitor. In
>some languages that would translate to "monitor of the head". Catchy huh?
>
>Whattuya think? Damn, this is exciting.
>
>
>
>

When do we get to sponsor a NASCAR Chevy??

On slow days there is nothing to do but take a whack at a troll. The
alternative is discussing norm <shudder>.

-j

"Gino" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:22:37 -0500, Guess who <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
> >On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:23:25 -0800, Gino <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >>I've never seen a 'mature' news group respond like this.
> >
> >That's the beginning and end of it. Most trolls here are labelled OT,
> >as if it makes a difference.
>
> I worded the sentence poorly.
> I was referring to the age of the group not the maturity of it's members.
> Most 'mature' groups have seen so many trolls over the years they mostly
go
> completely ignored but not here at the wreck.:)

Gino wrote:

> On 12 Jan 2005 22:14:32 -0800, "[email protected]"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>The NAN moderators have lifted the ban on accepting proposals to
>>convert unmoderated groups to moderated groups. I will be submitting a
>>proposal (RFD) to make rec.woodworking a candidate for moderation,
>>after a passing vote (CFV). Please look for the RFD. It will be posted
>>here.
>>
>>Thanks, and feedback welcome.
>
> Is every one THAT bored???
>
> Over 60 responses to this lame troll.
> I've never seen a 'mature' news group respond like this.
> In most well established groups a poor troll like this wouldn't get a
> handful of responses.

Uh, there was a serious attempt to create a moderated group a while back,
led by one nutcake. Went to a vote, he won the vote, then it turned out
that there were so many irregularities in the voting that the Powers That
Be decreed that another vote be taken, which he lost.

This could be the same guy and if everybody ignores him then he might win
his vote by default and become the moderator, which in his case will be
semantically equivalent to "dictator".

--
--John
Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

TWS wrote:

> On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:57:08 GMT, "Leon"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>Absolutely a Liberal Troll. You know the type, they want to take care of
>>EVERY BODY.
>>
> Definitely a conservative Troll, wants to deny access to all but a
> select few.
>
> BTW, I think you were far too kind earlier when you called him a
> moron.

Actually, he's neither, he's a reactionary troll with Revealed Truth.

>
> TWS

--
--John
Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

Steve Says:
no one moderator could do the job anyway. it would take several dedicated
people. ok who has several hours a day to spend on wreck.wood??


I could If everyone made there charitable contribution checks made payable
to "Knothead" we'll give 'er a go. Funny though the only person I could
imagine censoring would be the worm that started this thread.. I'll get my
paypal account set up right away ;-)

Knothead

Robert McClenon wrote:

> On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:42:41 -0600, Dave Balderstone
> <dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_S.balderstone.ca> wrote:
>
>>This is a forgery, people. Bob McCLenon does not post through Google
>>
>>Wait, there will be more under a variety of names. We've seen this
>>before.
>
> Including a false Dave Balderstone.
>
> What the troll did was to illustrate that a large number of
> rec.woodworking posters are not familiar with what a troll is and how
> to respond to it (typically by ignoring it).

Not so--note that nearly all are ignoring the racial epithet trolling now
going on. The moderation thing, on the other hand, is a hot button for the
group.

> - - Bob McClenon

--
--John
Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

TWS wrote:

> On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 05:20:18 -0500, "J. Clarke"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>This could be the same guy and if everybody ignores him then he might win
>>his vote by default and become the moderator, which in his case will be
>>semantically equivalent to "dictator".
> Since newsgroups are the only true democracy there isn't much chance
> of anyone becoming a dictator. People just wouldn't participate in
> 'his' newsgroup and would simply move somewhere else. A PITA for sure
> but not really a dictator.

Dictator of a one-man country is still dictator.

> Fortunately this jerk is a TROLL and isn't
> likely to do anything but stir up this otherwise 'bored' group ;-)

Are you sure he's not the same guy who brought it to a vote a couple of
months back?

> TWS

--
--John
Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

In article <[email protected]>,
"[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:

> The NAN moderators have lifted the ban on accepting proposals to
> convert unmoderated groups to moderated groups. I will be submitting a
> proposal (RFD) to make rec.woodworking a candidate for moderation,
> after a passing vote (CFV). Please look for the RFD. It will be posted
> here.
>
> Thanks, and feedback welcome.
>

And I propose a rec.woodworking.non-moderated so we can continue as
mature adults and police the situation ourselves without some power
hungry schmuck trying to become King Wreck. Illusions of grandeur?
That way, BobbyMcClenon can sit here and pound his little puddin all by
his-lonesome-miserable self.

I have never done this.. but there is always a first PLONK!


Rob

In article <[email protected]>,
"s2s" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Aw.
> Couldn't we argue just a little bit over whether he's a conservative
> troll or a liberal troll?

YES! YES! YES!! COOL!

naaa WGAF

Now why would you do a stupid thing like that?

"[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote in
message news:[email protected]...
> The NAN moderators have lifted the ban on accepting proposals to
> convert unmoderated groups to moderated groups. I will be submitting a
> proposal (RFD) to make rec.woodworking a candidate for moderation,
> after a passing vote (CFV). Please look for the RFD. It will be posted
> here.
>
> Thanks, and feedback welcome.
>

On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:23:25 -0800, Gino <[email protected]> wrote:

>I've never seen a 'mature' news group respond like this.

That's the beginning and end of it. Most trolls here are labelled OT,
as if it makes a difference.

On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:23:25 -0800, Gino <[email protected]> wrote:

>On 12 Jan 2005 22:14:32 -0800, "[email protected]"
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>The NAN moderators have lifted the ban on accepting proposals to
>>convert unmoderated groups to moderated groups. I will be submitting a
>>proposal (RFD) to make rec.woodworking a candidate for moderation,
>>after a passing vote (CFV). Please look for the RFD. It will be posted
>>here.
>>
>>Thanks, and feedback welcome.
>
>Is every one THAT bored???
>
>Over 60 responses to this lame troll.
>I've never seen a 'mature' news group respond like this.
>In most well established groups a poor troll like this wouldn't get a handful of
>responses.

Given the fact that we just went through this with a *real* proposal and
*real* [fraudulent] vote a few months ago, folks around here are just a
mite edgy and a bit trigger-happy. So, if'n ya know what's good fer ya,
you'll watch yerself around here, OK?

;-)




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On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 08:44:53 -0500, "Mortimer Schnerd, RN"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>[email protected] wrote:
>> The NAN moderators have lifted the ban on accepting proposals to
>> convert unmoderated groups to moderated groups. I will be submitting a
>> proposal (RFD) to make rec.woodworking a candidate for moderation,
>> after a passing vote (CFV). Please look for the RFD. It will be posted
>> here.
>>
>> Thanks, and feedback welcome.
>
>
>
>Another control freak heard from. Or are you just a troll?
>
>Didn't we just go through this not two months ago? It fell on its ass, just
>like this will.

It was a troll.

On 12 Jan 2005 22:14:32 -0800, "[email protected]"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>The NAN moderators have lifted the ban on accepting proposals to
>convert unmoderated groups to moderated groups. I will be submitting a
>proposal (RFD) to make rec.woodworking a candidate for moderation,
>after a passing vote (CFV). Please look for the RFD. It will be posted
>here.
>
>Thanks, and feedback welcome.

Is every one THAT bored???

Over 60 responses to this lame troll.
I've never seen a 'mature' news group respond like this.
In most well established groups a poor troll like this wouldn't get a handful of
responses.

On 12 Jan 2005 22:14:32 -0800, "[email protected]"
<[email protected]> wrote:

We've seen this crud before. By the way, the person you are trying to
bring some grief, Bob Mcclenon from the UK, is from verizon.net, NOT
verizon.zzn.com.

TROLL
----------------
A friend will bail you out of jail, but a true friend will be sitting next to you, saying,
"That was ****ing awesome!".

On Sun, 06 Mar 2005 20:32:43 -0600, Dave Balderstone
<dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_S.balderstone.ca> wrote:

>In article <[email protected]>, Mark & Juanita
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Why in the world do you want to do this?
>
>It's the same troll. Over and over again. It's not Bob McClenon.

Sort of. Not exactly over and over again. The troll posted on 12
January, and is getting a late reply to the same troll post. In this
case, the problem is not the troll, but people responding to the troll
after the troll has moved on to doing damage somewhere else.

- - Bob McClenon

Moron.




"[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote in
message news:[email protected]...
> Mark & Juanita wrote:
>
>> I seriously doubt you are going to welcome the feedback
>> you get regarding this.
>
> You will have your opportunity to vote.
>
>> Particularly since this appears to only be the second
>> posting you've made to rec.ww, the other posting was also
>> participating in a thread dealing with creating a moderated
>> woodworking group.
>
> None of that matters when submitting an RFD. I have been a very long
> time lurker, and lurkers rights are equal to posters rights on Usenet.
>
>> Why in the world do you want to do this?
>
> This house is a mess; time to clean it up. I will submit the RFD within
> 24 hours. Voting will start about 21 days later. I have a *very* good
> feeling that the vote will pass, and that I will become the moderator
> of rec.woodworking by next month. I suggest you start being a little
> nicer to me if you want me to pay attention to your ideas during the
> RFD process.
>
>
> Bob McClenon
> [email protected]
>

On 12 Jan 2005 23:45:32 -0800, "[email protected]"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Mark & Juanita wrote:
>
>> I seriously doubt you are going to welcome the feedback
>> you get regarding this.
>
>You will have your opportunity to vote.
>
>> Particularly since this appears to only be the second
>> posting you've made to rec.ww, the other posting was also
>> participating in a thread dealing with creating a moderated
>> woodworking group.
>
>None of that matters when submitting an RFD. I have been a very long
>time lurker, and lurkers rights are equal to posters rights on Usenet.
>
>> Why in the world do you want to do this?
>
>This house is a mess; time to clean it up. I will submit the RFD within
>24 hours. Voting will start about 21 days later. I have a *very* good
>feeling that the vote will pass, and that I will become the moderator
>of rec.woodworking by next month. I suggest you start being a little
>nicer to me if you want me to pay attention to your ideas during the
>RFD process.
>

Given that my comments were neither abusive nor combative in nature, but
were purely legitimate questions and comments backed up by facts directly
related to the discussion *you* chose to start, you have identified
yourself as being of way too thin skin to be allowed anywhere near a
moderator's position in which personal affronts should in no way affect the
selection or deletion of postings. Frankly, whether you pay attention to
what I, or anyone else for that matter, say during the RFD process is on
little consequence -- it is what those voting think of the ideas expressed
during that discussion period that matter. This is true of course, unless
you are implying in your comment about having a very good idea that this
vote will pass that you have identified a means of assuring that the votes
will be there for your proposal.


>
>Bob McClenon
>[email protected]



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On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:49:41 -0800, Steve Knight
<[email protected]> wrote:

>no one moderator could do the job anyway. it would take several dedicated
>people. ok who has several hours a day to spend on wreck.wood??

Moderating a newsgroup as active as the Wreck is normally done
primarily by a robot and secondarily by humans who write scripts for
the robot and make sure that it is running.

Posting messages claiming that a group as active as the Wreck is about
to be moderated is done by a subspecies known as a troll.

- - Bob McClenon

On 12 Jan 2005 23:45:32 -0800, "[email protected]"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>This house is a mess; time to clean it up. I will submit the RFD within
>24 hours. Voting will start about 21 days later. I have a *very* good
>feeling that the vote will pass, and that I will become the moderator
>of rec.woodworking by next month. I suggest you start being a little
>nicer to me if you want me to pay attention to your ideas during the
>RFD process.

No, you won't. You will become the moderator of
rec.woodworking.moderated. Rec.woodworking will continue to exist and
will completely ignore you.

If you don't like it here, there's the door. Don't get hit in the ass
on the way out.

"[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote in
message news:[email protected]...
>
> This house is a mess; time to clean it up. I will submit the RFD within
> 24 hours. Voting will start about 21 days later. I have a *very* good
> feeling that the vote will pass, and that I will become the moderator
> of rec.woodworking by next month. I suggest you start being a little
> nicer to me if you want me to pay attention to your ideas during the
> RFD process.
>
>
> Bob McClenon
> [email protected]
>
If you would like, I will be your campaign manager to support your cause.
Of course not here, maybe rec.BOBisKING.

"[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote in
message news:[email protected]...

> I suggest you start being a little nicer to me if you want me to pay
attention to your ideas during the
> RFD process.

Sir,
Respectfully wondering if you see a problem with the above statement?

On 12 Jan 2005 23:45:32 -0800, "[email protected]"
<[email protected]> wrote:

> I suggest you start being a little
>nicer to me if you want me to pay attention to your ideas during the
>RFD process.

Your admission of blatant partiality is duly noted

On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 03:22:58 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
>"Mark & Juanita" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>
>> How 'bout just a little difference? Brown shirt with Hammer & Sickle?
>> Same oppression, different flavor.
>
>And it is tool related and thus, on topic.
>
yes, and considering the next step after net nannies, what type of
scrap wood is best for burning books?


mac

Please remove splinters before emailing

On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:09:24 -0500, "Bill Otten"
<[email protected]> wrote:

it sounded a whole lot like "it's my football, and if I can't be
quarterback, I'm going home" shit to me... except in this case it's
OUR football..

>Hey Bob....your apparent arrogance in your reply below probably just insured
>that you
>WON'T be moderating anything more than your visits here in a short period of
>time.
>
>bill
>
>"[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote in
>message news:[email protected]...
>> Mark & Juanita wrote:
>>
>>> I seriously doubt you are going to welcome the feedback
>>> you get regarding this.
>>
>> You will have your opportunity to vote.
>>
>>> Particularly since this appears to only be the second
>>> posting you've made to rec.ww, the other posting was also
>>> participating in a thread dealing with creating a moderated
>>> woodworking group.
>>
>> None of that matters when submitting an RFD. I have been a very long
>> time lurker, and lurkers rights are equal to posters rights on Usenet.
>>
>>> Why in the world do you want to do this?
>>
>> This house is a mess; time to clean it up. I will submit the RFD within
>> 24 hours. Voting will start about 21 days later. I have a *very* good
>> feeling that the vote will pass, and that I will become the moderator
>> of rec.woodworking by next month. I suggest you start being a little
>> nicer to me if you want me to pay attention to your ideas during the
>> RFD process.
>>
>>
>> Bob McClenon
>> [email protected]
>>
>
>



mac

Please remove splinters before emailing

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[email protected] wrote:

>Mark & Juanita wrote:
>
>
>> I seriously doubt you are going to welcome the feedback
>>you get regarding this.
>>
>>
>
>You will have your opportunity to vote.
>
>
>>Particularly since this appears to only be the second
>>posting you've made to rec.ww, the other posting was also
>>participating in a thread dealing with creating a moderated
>>woodworking group.
>>
>>
>
>None of that matters when submitting an RFD. I have been a very long
>time lurker, and lurkers rights are equal to posters rights on Usenet.
>
>
>> Why in the world do you want to do this?
>>
>>
>
>This house is a mess; time to clean it up. I will submit the RFD within
>24 hours. Voting will start about 21 days later. I have a *very* good
>feeling that the vote will pass, and that I will become the moderator
>of rec.woodworking by next month. I suggest you start being a little
>nicer to me if you want me to pay attention to your ideas during the
>RFD process.
>
>
>Bob McClenon
>[email protected]
>
Another self righteous prick who wants to push his personal agenda on
others. Freaking liberals! Your time would be better spent learning
how to use msg filters.

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<pre wrap="">Particularly since this appears to only be the second
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feeling that the vote will pass, and that I will become the moderator
of rec.woodworking by next month. I suggest you start being a little
nicer to me if you want me to pay attention to your ideas during the
RFD process.


Bob McClenon
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a></pre>
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Another self righteous prick who wants to push his personal agenda on
others.&nbsp; Freaking liberals!&nbsp; Your time would be better spent learning
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Joe Wells wrote:

>On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 22:14:32 -0800, [email protected] wrote:
>
>
>
>>The NAN moderators have lifted the ban on accepting proposals to convert
>>unmoderated groups to moderated groups. I will be submitting a proposal
>>(RFD) to make rec.woodworking a candidate for moderation, after a passing
>>vote (CFV). Please look for the RFD. It will be posted here.
>>
>>Thanks, and feedback welcome.
>>
>>
>
>Here's some early feedback for ya:
>http://amishrakefight.org/gfy/
>
Thats good, I love it!!!

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<pre wrap="">On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 22:14:32 -0800, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a> wrote:

</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">The NAN moderators have lifted the ban on accepting proposals to convert
unmoderated groups to moderated groups. I will be submitting a proposal
(RFD) to make rec.woodworking a candidate for moderation, after a passing
vote (CFV). Please look for the RFD. It will be posted here.

Thanks, and feedback welcome.
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<pre wrap=""><!---->
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In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
>The NAN moderators have lifted the ban on accepting proposals to
>convert unmoderated groups to moderated groups. I will be submitting a
>proposal (RFD) to make rec.woodworking a candidate for moderation,
>after a passing vote (CFV). Please look for the RFD. It will be posted
>here.
>
>Thanks, and feedback welcome.
>

Thank you for the opportunity to provide feedback. If you desire a
moderated group start one, but leave rec.woodworking alone.

Once again, thanks.


--

Larry Wasserman Baltimore, Maryland
[email protected]

On 12 Jan 2005 22:14:32 -0800, "[email protected]"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>The NAN moderators have lifted the ban on accepting proposals to
>convert unmoderated groups to moderated groups. I will be submitting a
>proposal (RFD) to make rec.woodworking a candidate for moderation,
>after a passing vote (CFV). Please look for the RFD. It will be posted
>here.
>
>Thanks, and feedback welcome.

I seriously doubt you are going to welcome the feedback you get regarding
this. Particularly since this appears to only be the second posting you've
made to rec.ww, the other posting was also participating in a thread
dealing with creating a moderated woodworking group.

Why in the world do you want to do this?




+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+

Now we'll just use some glue to hold things in place until the brads dry

+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+

On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:23:25 -0800, Gino <[email protected]> wrote:

>On 12 Jan 2005 22:14:32 -0800, "[email protected]"
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>The NAN moderators have lifted the ban on accepting proposals to
>>convert unmoderated groups to moderated groups. I will be submitting a
>>proposal (RFD) to make rec.woodworking a candidate for moderation,
>>after a passing vote (CFV). Please look for the RFD. It will be posted
>>here.
>>
>>Thanks, and feedback welcome.
>
>Is every one THAT bored???
>
>Over 60 responses to this lame troll.
>I've never seen a 'mature' news group respond like this.
>In most well established groups a poor troll like this wouldn't get a handful of
>responses.

but we had FUN, Gino....
if you read any of the posts, it was more like a big joke than
anything else..


mac

Please remove splinters before emailing

Ayup.... 'sides..everyone knows *I'm* in line to be the next moderator <g>!

Rob

--


http://www.robswoodworking.com

"Dave Balderstone" <dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_S.balderstone.ca> wrote in message
news:060320052032432454%dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_S.balderstone.ca...
> In article <[email protected]>, Mark & Juanita
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Why in the world do you want to do this?
>
> It's the same troll. Over and over again. It's not Bob McClenon.
>
> --
> "I'm a man, but I can change... If I have to... I guess." -- Red Green

"Mark & Juanita" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> How 'bout just a little difference? Brown shirt with Hammer & Sickle?
> Same oppression, different flavor.

And it is tool related and thus, on topic.

On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:14:54 GMT, "Leon"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>I suspect that the NAN had to impose a ban because of people like you.
>
>
>"[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote in
>message news:[email protected]...
>> The NAN moderators have lifted the ban on accepting proposals to
>> convert unmoderated groups to moderated groups. I will be submitting a
>> proposal (RFD) to make rec.woodworking a candidate for moderation,
>> after a passing vote (CFV). Please look for the RFD. It will be posted
>> here.
>>
>> Thanks, and feedback welcome.
>>
>

No. The NAN had to impose a ban because moderation in place does not
work. The way to deal with trolls is to ignore them.

Won't happen.

"[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote in
message news:[email protected]...
> The NAN moderators have lifted the ban on accepting proposals to
> convert unmoderated groups to moderated groups. I will be submitting a
> proposal (RFD) to make rec.woodworking a candidate for moderation,
> after a passing vote (CFV). Please look for the RFD. It will be posted
> here.
>
> Thanks, and feedback welcome.
>

In article <[email protected]>,
"[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Mark & Juanita wrote:
>
> > I seriously doubt you are going to welcome the feedback
> > you get regarding this.
>
> You will have your opportunity to vote.
>
> > Particularly since this appears to only be the second
> > posting you've made to rec.ww, the other posting was also
> > participating in a thread dealing with creating a moderated
> > woodworking group.
>
> None of that matters when submitting an RFD. I have been a very long
> time lurker, and lurkers rights are equal to posters rights on Usenet.
>
> > Why in the world do you want to do this?
>
> This house is a mess; time to clean it up. I will submit the RFD within
> 24 hours. Voting will start about 21 days later. I have a *very* good
> feeling that the vote will pass, and that I will become the moderator
> of rec.woodworking by next month. I suggest you start being a little
> nicer to me if you want me to pay attention to your ideas during the
> RFD process.

Bob, I've lead the effort to create something like 4 newsgroups. I
also ran a poll about splitting this newsgroup (ok that was several
years ago), and I can tell you this....

Your proposal will fail

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On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:39:27 -0500, Mike G <[email protected]>
wrote:

>In article <[email protected]>,
>[email protected] says...
>> The NAN moderators have lifted the ban on accepting proposals to
>> convert unmoderated groups to moderated groups. I will be submitting a
>> proposal (RFD) to make rec.woodworking a candidate for moderation,
>> after a passing vote (CFV). Please look for the RFD. It will be posted
>> here.
>>
>> Thanks, and feedback welcome.
>>
>>
>
>
>Just got our MBA did we?

From Harvard. He can now manage anything.

Gary Dyrkacz
[email protected]
Radio Control Aircraft/Paintball Physics/Paintball for 40+
http://home.attbi.com/~dyrgcmn/

Well said young man!

On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 22:33:38 -0800, "mp" <[email protected]> wrote:

>> The NAN moderators have lifted the ban on accepting proposals to
>> convert unmoderated groups to moderated groups. I will be submitting a
>> proposal (RFD) to make rec.woodworking a candidate for moderation,
>> after a passing vote (CFV). Please look for the RFD. It will be posted
>> here.
>>
>> Thanks, and feedback welcome.
>
>Ok. Here's mine. Please stick your self-rightous head up your butt and
>waddle out of here.
>

On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 05:20:18 -0500, "J. Clarke"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Uh, there was a serious attempt to create a moderated group a while back,
>led by one nutcake. Went to a vote, he won the vote, then it turned out
>that there were so many irregularities in the voting that the Powers That
>Be decreed that another vote be taken, which he lost.

Your history is a little off. There was no second vote. After the PTB
decreed the vote invalid, the original creator of the RFD withdrew his
second proposal.

- -
LRod

Master Woodbutcher and seasoned termite

Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999

http://www.woodbutcher.net

I do find myself going to the yahoo woodworking group more and more. They
seem to police it a little better and the trolls are almost non-existant and
the racial and other belligerant type stuff just doesn't get on there.

Maverick

Hey Ed,
Brown shirts and a swastika? It's been done.
Joe





Edwin Pawlowski wrote:

> "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote in
> message
>
>>This house is a mess; time to clean it up. I will submit the RFD within
>>24 hours. Voting will start about 21 days later. I have a *very* good
>>feeling that the vote will pass, and that I will become the moderator
>>of rec.woodworking by next month. I suggest you start being a little
>>nicer to me if you want me to pay attention to your ideas during the
>>RFD process.
>>
>>
>>Bob McClenon
>>[email protected]
>>
>
>
> Well thanks Robert. About time someone stepped up and took action. As you
> can see, some of the guys here are not nice. Not my fault, I've often said,
> "guys, you gotta be nice'. Sometimes I've said "guys, you gotta stop
> posting off topic stuff here." They just don't listen to me but I'm sure
> they will listen to you. You've got a lot of charisma.
>
> Will you be needing as assistant? We could do this together. Maybe get
> uniforms. Yeah, uniforms with brown shirts and a logo. We can get business
> cards and have a title after our names. You can be the head monitor. In
> some languages that would translate to "monitor of the head". Catchy huh?
>
> Whattuya think? Damn, this is exciting.
>
>

"Tom Watson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 12 Jan 2005 22:14:32 -0800, "[email protected]"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>The NAN moderators have lifted the ban on accepting proposals to
>>convert unmoderated groups to moderated groups. I will be submitting a
>>proposal (RFD) to make rec.woodworking a candidate for moderation,
>>after a passing vote (CFV). Please look for the RFD. It will be posted
>>here.
>>
>>Thanks, and feedback welcome.
>
>
> Comin' to ya on a Usenet road
> Bullshit I got a truck load
> And when you get it you got nuthin'
> So don't worry cause I'm coming
>
> I'm a troll man
> I'm a troll man
> I'm a troll man
> I'm a troll man
>
> (apologies to sam and dave and jake and elwood)

Tommy:
Can you do "Rubber Biscuits?" (Obww) Something along the line of, "If it
(the troll) don't bounce back...you go hungry."

Bob

On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 22:14:32 -0800, [email protected] wrote:

> The NAN moderators have lifted the ban on accepting proposals to convert
> unmoderated groups to moderated groups. I will be submitting a proposal
> (RFD) to make rec.woodworking a candidate for moderation, after a passing
> vote (CFV). Please look for the RFD. It will be posted here.
>
> Thanks, and feedback welcome.

Here's some early feedback for ya:
http://amishrakefight.org/gfy/

--
Joe Wells

"Gino"wrote in message

> Is every one THAT bored???
>
> Over 60 responses to this lame troll.
> I've never seen a 'mature' news group respond like this.
> In most well established groups a poor troll like this wouldn't get a
handful of
> responses.

And just how is it that your post on the subject differs?

--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 11/06/04

On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:01:22 GMT, Doug Miller <[email protected]>
wrote:

>In article <[email protected]>,
>[email protected] says...
>> The NAN moderators have lifted the ban on accepting proposals to
>> convert unmoderated groups to moderated groups.
>
>Yeah, right. Funny how there's no mention of that over there...
>
>Folks, this is a troll. Somebody's trying to stir the pot here, or stir
>up trouble for the *real* Robert McClenon, or both. Let's just let this
>thread die, shall we?

Just one comment to say you're dead right there. Notice how they put
out the bait then vanish?

Gino wrote:
> Is every one THAT bored???

Yes.

On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:09:20 GMT, Dan <[email protected]> wrote:

>On Thu 13 Jan 2005 06:28:00a, "Knothead"
><[email protected]> wrote in
>news:[email protected]:
>
>> Isn't there some other friggin
>> liberal cause you can go champion besides annoying the rest of us that
>> don't want your magnanimous attention?
>>
>
>Actually I thought he looked more like a conservative.

I would suggest the more descriptive and accurate term, "statist": one
who believes that regulation and control are desirable and that
individualism and free thought are dangerous and to be suppressed.

I would also suggest that "troll" is probably most appropriate. Sorry
sadsack has probably wet himself excitement over the furor his little
posting caused.




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On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:57:08 GMT, "Leon"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>Absolutely a Liberal Troll. You know the type, they want to take care of
>EVERY BODY.
>
Definitely a conservative Troll, wants to deny access to all but a
select few.

BTW, I think you were far too kind earlier when you called him a
moron.

TWS

On 12 Jan 2005 23:45:32 -0800, "[email protected]"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Mark & Juanita wrote:
>
>> I seriously doubt you are going to welcome the feedback
>> you get regarding this.
>
>You will have your opportunity to vote.

Along with the Stromboli clan, no doubt.

>This house is a mess; time to clean it up. I will submit the RFD within
>24 hours. Voting will start about 21 days later. I have a *very* good
>feeling that the vote will pass, and that I will become the moderator
>of rec.woodworking by next month. I suggest you start being a little
>nicer to me if you want me to pay attention to your ideas during the
>RFD process.

Piss off. Dumbass.

Aut inveniam viam aut faciam

On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:44:04 GMT, Joe_Stein <[email protected]> wrote:

>Hey Ed,
>Brown shirts and a swastika? It's been done.
>Joe
>

How 'bout just a little difference? Brown shirt with Hammer & Sickle?
Same oppression, different flavor.



>
>
>
>
>Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
>
>> "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote in
>> message
>>
>>>This house is a mess; time to clean it up. I will submit the RFD within
>>>24 hours. Voting will start about 21 days later. I have a *very* good
>>>feeling that the vote will pass, and that I will become the moderator
>>>of rec.woodworking by next month. I suggest you start being a little
>>>nicer to me if you want me to pay attention to your ideas during the
>>>RFD process.
>>>
>>>
>>>Bob McClenon
>>>[email protected]
>>>
>>
>>
>> Well thanks Robert. About time someone stepped up and took action. As you
>> can see, some of the guys here are not nice. Not my fault, I've often said,
>> "guys, you gotta be nice'. Sometimes I've said "guys, you gotta stop
>> posting off topic stuff here." They just don't listen to me but I'm sure
>> they will listen to you. You've got a lot of charisma.
>>
>> Will you be needing as assistant? We could do this together. Maybe get
>> uniforms. Yeah, uniforms with brown shirts and a logo. We can get business
>> cards and have a title after our names. You can be the head monitor. In
>> some languages that would translate to "monitor of the head". Catchy huh?
>>
>> Whattuya think? Damn, this is exciting.
>>
>>



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Now we'll just use some glue to hold things in place until the brads dry

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On 12 Jan 2005 23:45:32 -0800, "[email protected]"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
>This house is a mess; time to clean it up. I will submit the RFD within
>24 hours. Voting will start about 21 days later. I have a *very* good
>feeling that the vote will pass, and that I will become the moderator
>of rec.woodworking by next month. I suggest you start being a little
>nicer to me if you want me to pay attention to your ideas during the
>RFD process.

go fuck yourself.





>
>
>Bob McClenon
>[email protected]

On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:22:37 -0500, Guess who <[email protected]> wrote:

>On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:23:25 -0800, Gino <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>I've never seen a 'mature' news group respond like this.
>
>That's the beginning and end of it. Most trolls here are labelled OT,
>as if it makes a difference.

I worded the sentence poorly.
I was referring to the age of the group not the maturity of it's members.
Most 'mature' groups have seen so many trolls over the years they mostly go
completely ignored but not here at the wreck.:)

On 12 Jan 2005 22:14:32 -0800, "[email protected]"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>The NAN moderators have lifted the ban on accepting proposals to
>convert unmoderated groups to moderated groups. I will be submitting a
>proposal (RFD) to make rec.woodworking a candidate for moderation,
>after a passing vote (CFV). Please look for the RFD. It will be posted
>here.
>
>Thanks, and feedback welcome.

So long as you're not the moderator I'll think on it. I'd rather put
up with the OT crap, which is easily deleted. Like sorting through
junk regular mail, it's now instinctive and on automatic, and takes
seconds. This troll topic is on that list now.

On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:39:05 -0700, John DeBoo <[email protected]>
wrote:


>Another self righteous prick who wants to push his personal agenda on
>others. Freaking liberals!

You can kiss my ass with your "freaking liberals" crap. There are
plenty of conservative self righteous pricks around, too. Check the
guy who shaves you every morning to see one.


- -
LRod

Master Woodbutcher and seasoned termite

Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999

http://www.woodbutcher.net

Go Play Far...



"[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote in
message news:[email protected]...
> The NAN moderators have lifted the ban on accepting proposals to
> convert unmoderated groups to moderated groups. I will be submitting a
> proposal (RFD) to make rec.woodworking a candidate for moderation,
> after a passing vote (CFV). Please look for the RFD. It will be posted
> here.
>
> Thanks, and feedback welcome.
>

"[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:

> This house is a mess; time to clean it up. I will submit the RFD within
> 24 hours. Voting will start about 21 days later. I have a *very* good
> feeling that the vote will pass, and that I will become the moderator
> of rec.woodworking by next month. I suggest you start being a little
> nicer to me if you want me to pay attention to your ideas during the
> RFD process.
>

FOAD!

>
> None of that matters when submitting an RFD. I have been a very long
> time lurker, and lurkers rights are equal to posters rights on Usenet.
>
>
> This house is a mess; time to clean it up. I will submit the RFD within
> 24 hours. Voting will start about 21 days later. I have a *very* good
> feeling that the vote will pass, and that I will become the moderator
> of rec.woodworking by next month. I suggest you start being a little
> nicer to me if you want me to pay attention to your ideas during the
> RFD process.
>
>
> Bob McClenon
> [email protected]
>
Sounds like someone wants to look important. Unfortunately for him that
does not make him qualified to moderate this group.

Hey Bob....your apparent arrogance in your reply below probably just insured
that you
WON'T be moderating anything more than your visits here in a short period of
time.

bill

"[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote in
message news:[email protected]...
> Mark & Juanita wrote:
>
>> I seriously doubt you are going to welcome the feedback
>> you get regarding this.
>
> You will have your opportunity to vote.
>
>> Particularly since this appears to only be the second
>> posting you've made to rec.ww, the other posting was also
>> participating in a thread dealing with creating a moderated
>> woodworking group.
>
> None of that matters when submitting an RFD. I have been a very long
> time lurker, and lurkers rights are equal to posters rights on Usenet.
>
>> Why in the world do you want to do this?
>
> This house is a mess; time to clean it up. I will submit the RFD within
> 24 hours. Voting will start about 21 days later. I have a *very* good
> feeling that the vote will pass, and that I will become the moderator
> of rec.woodworking by next month. I suggest you start being a little
> nicer to me if you want me to pay attention to your ideas during the
> RFD process.
>
>
> Bob McClenon
> [email protected]
>