Hello All:
Have a 1960's vintage Craftsman belt-drive 9" table saw. The blade tilting
adjustment has frozen at 30 degrees, and the adjusting wheel turns to no
effect. This model has one wheel for blade height, and then you pull on the
wheel and turn to adjust the blade angle. Where to start diagnosis?
vernal888 wrote:
> Hello Bridger:
> Thanks for the prompt response. The saw was inherited, so has sentimental
> value. Flipping it over is easier said than done because its in something
> of a customized cabinet. However, I don't see any alternate way to access
> the mechanism. If not economically repairable, I'd at least like to get the
> blade back to 90 degrees.
>
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 21:08:48 -0400, "vernal888"
>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hello All:
>>>Have a 1960's vintage Craftsman belt-drive 9" table saw. The blade
>>>tilting
>>>adjustment has frozen at 30 degrees, and the adjusting wheel turns to no
>>>effect. This model has one wheel for blade height, and then you pull on
>>>the
>>>wheel and turn to adjust the blade angle. Where to start diagnosis?
>>>
>>
>>
>>flip it over and start disassembling it.
>>
>>be sure to price comparable saws, as a reality check. it may not be
>>worth repairing.
>
>
>
You probably want to look at a parts drawing. If
you know the model of the saw use it to look up
the parts drawing at Sears. If you don't know
anything then go to a Sears store and ask for
help. Probably several models are build very
similarly or maybe it is unique enough somebody
can find the model right off.
In any case, the problem may be as simple as a
loose or missing set screw. For example, if that
tilt adjustment wheel just spins, on the shaft,
the set screw that locks it on the shaft is
probably not tight (something could be broken
though). Or it may simply be some other nut,
bolt, or screw is loose or too tight. You
probably want to take it completely apart anyway.
You should always be able to lock the tilt at a
specific place, even if you can't adjust it with
the wheel. BTW, are you unlocking the the tilt?
Most saws have a specific lever to lock and unlock
(merely tightens the mechanism) so that it won't
move.
"George E. Cawthon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Mike Marlow wrote:
> > "George E. Cawthon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >
> >>You should always be able to lock the tilt at a
> >>specific place, even if you can't adjust it with
> >>the wheel. BTW, are you unlocking the the tilt?
> >>Most saws have a specific lever to lock and unlock
> >> (merely tightens the mechanism) so that it won't
> >>move.
> >
> >
> > These Craftsman saws like his don't have a lock for the angle. They
don't
> > move a degree once you set the angle so there's really no need for one.
> > Hell, I never use the lock on my saw, and it has one. Never had a
problem,
> > and if I *did* use it, I'd be cursing every time I went to crank a
little
> > angle into the blade and forgot that I had locked it...
> >
>
> Thanks, I don't know that particular saw. Saws
> with two wheels--height and angle, that I have
> seen have a lock. Without it locked my saw will
> gradually move.
Mine has a lock and like I said, I don't use it, but seldom do I make a
really large number of angled cuts, so who knows, maybe over the course of
25 cuts it might move if it's not locked down. It doesn't over the course
of a few cuts, so I don't use it.
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
"vernal888" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Hello All:
>
> This saw does not, in fact, have a lock. The one adjustment wheel
controls
> blade height and tilt. To engage the tilt function, you pull the wheel
> toward you (away from the cabinet) about 1/2 inch and then turn clockwise
to
> angle the blade to the left. Removing the wheel, the blade can be raised
> and lowered using a large screw driver on a slot in the adjustment shaft.
> The mechanism for pulling the shaft forward that 1/2" to engage the
tilting
> mechanism is the mystery. I'm sure it will be more obvious after I can
get
> the saw turned onto its top.
It will. Go ahead and remove the top and you'll see quickly how it works.
Nothing magical about it.
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
Hello All:
This saw does not, in fact, have a lock. The one adjustment wheel controls
blade height and tilt. To engage the tilt function, you pull the wheel
toward you (away from the cabinet) about 1/2 inch and then turn clockwise to
angle the blade to the left. Removing the wheel, the blade can be raised
and lowered using a large screw driver on a slot in the adjustment shaft.
The mechanism for pulling the shaft forward that 1/2" to engage the tilting
mechanism is the mystery. I'm sure it will be more obvious after I can get
the saw turned onto its top.
Thanks all.
"Mike Marlow" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "George E. Cawthon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:x%[email protected]...
>> Mike Marlow wrote:
>> > "George E. Cawthon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> > news:[email protected]...
>> >
>> >>You should always be able to lock the tilt at a
>> >>specific place, even if you can't adjust it with
>> >>the wheel. BTW, are you unlocking the the tilt?
>> >>Most saws have a specific lever to lock and unlock
>> >> (merely tightens the mechanism) so that it won't
>> >>move.
>> >
>> >
>> > These Craftsman saws like his don't have a lock for the angle. They
> don't
>> > move a degree once you set the angle so there's really no need for one.
>> > Hell, I never use the lock on my saw, and it has one. Never had a
> problem,
>> > and if I *did* use it, I'd be cursing every time I went to crank a
> little
>> > angle into the blade and forgot that I had locked it...
>> >
>>
>> Thanks, I don't know that particular saw. Saws
>> with two wheels--height and angle, that I have
>> seen have a lock. Without it locked my saw will
>> gradually move.
>
> Mine has a lock and like I said, I don't use it, but seldom do I make a
> really large number of angled cuts, so who knows, maybe over the course of
> 25 cuts it might move if it's not locked down. It doesn't over the course
> of a few cuts, so I don't use it.
>
> --
>
> -Mike-
> [email protected]
>
>
"vernal888" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hello Bridger:
> Thanks for the prompt response. The saw was inherited, so has sentimental
> value. Flipping it over is easier said than done because its in something
> of a customized cabinet. However, I don't see any alternate way to access
> the mechanism. If not economically repairable, I'd at least like to get
the
> blade back to 90 degrees.
These are ok saws but apart from sentimental value, they aren't much in the
value department. I know - I had one also. It had some sentimental value,
but eventually I found a new home for it.
You can remove the top by unbolting it from the tin base. If you can reach
up inside the saw with a socket wrench you can remove the bolts. Just be
careful not to remove the trunion bolts by mistake. It might pay to loosen
them at some point and square up the blade to the miter slots, but that's
for another discussion. The top will come off with the trunion and the
arbor attached and you can clean up the mechanism. They get clogged with
sawdust and you'll experience exactly what you are seeing. Clean the
mechanism up good and give it a light lube with an oil, not with grease or
you'll be doing this all over again pretty quickly.
The knob does get loose and all you have to do is tighten it in place.
You'll have to loosen the set screw to remove the know in order to take the
top off. After you clean it up, just tighten the knob down well as you put
it together.
Post again if you have any problems with the process.
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
>
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 21:08:48 -0400, "vernal888"
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >>Hello All:
> >>Have a 1960's vintage Craftsman belt-drive 9" table saw. The blade
> >>tilting
> >>adjustment has frozen at 30 degrees, and the adjusting wheel turns to no
> >>effect. This model has one wheel for blade height, and then you pull on
> >>the
> >>wheel and turn to adjust the blade angle. Where to start diagnosis?
> >>
> >
> >
> > flip it over and start disassembling it.
> >
> > be sure to price comparable saws, as a reality check. it may not be
> > worth repairing.
>
>
"George E. Cawthon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> You should always be able to lock the tilt at a
> specific place, even if you can't adjust it with
> the wheel. BTW, are you unlocking the the tilt?
> Most saws have a specific lever to lock and unlock
> (merely tightens the mechanism) so that it won't
> move.
These Craftsman saws like his don't have a lock for the angle. They don't
move a degree once you set the angle so there's really no need for one.
Hell, I never use the lock on my saw, and it has one. Never had a problem,
and if I *did* use it, I'd be cursing every time I went to crank a little
angle into the blade and forgot that I had locked it...
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 21:37:11 -0400, "vernal888"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Hello Bridger:
>Thanks for the prompt response. The saw was inherited, so has sentimental
>value. Flipping it over is easier said than done because its in something
>of a customized cabinet. However, I don't see any alternate way to access
>the mechanism. If not economically repairable, I'd at least like to get the
>blade back to 90 degrees.
it'll be a lot easier to see what's going on if you pull it out and
flip it over. what you have to do inside could be anything from a
little work with steel wool and wd40 to have parts made by a
machinist.
I don't have one of those saws, so I won't be too much help with the
specifics, but I bet that someone over at www.owwm does have the same
machine as yours and even likely went through a similar rebuild. I'd
recommend you point your browser on over there and get acquainted-
they're a really nice bunch of folks.
and tell keeter hi.
Hello Bridger:
Thanks for the prompt response. The saw was inherited, so has sentimental
value. Flipping it over is easier said than done because its in something
of a customized cabinet. However, I don't see any alternate way to access
the mechanism. If not economically repairable, I'd at least like to get the
blade back to 90 degrees.
<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 21:08:48 -0400, "vernal888"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Hello All:
>>Have a 1960's vintage Craftsman belt-drive 9" table saw. The blade
>>tilting
>>adjustment has frozen at 30 degrees, and the adjusting wheel turns to no
>>effect. This model has one wheel for blade height, and then you pull on
>>the
>>wheel and turn to adjust the blade angle. Where to start diagnosis?
>>
>
>
> flip it over and start disassembling it.
>
> be sure to price comparable saws, as a reality check. it may not be
> worth repairing.
On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 21:08:48 -0400, "vernal888"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Hello All:
>Have a 1960's vintage Craftsman belt-drive 9" table saw. The blade tilting
>adjustment has frozen at 30 degrees, and the adjusting wheel turns to no
>effect. This model has one wheel for blade height, and then you pull on the
>wheel and turn to adjust the blade angle. Where to start diagnosis?
>
flip it over and start disassembling it.
be sure to price comparable saws, as a reality check. it may not be
worth repairing.
Mike Marlow wrote:
> "George E. Cawthon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>You should always be able to lock the tilt at a
>>specific place, even if you can't adjust it with
>>the wheel. BTW, are you unlocking the the tilt?
>>Most saws have a specific lever to lock and unlock
>> (merely tightens the mechanism) so that it won't
>>move.
>
>
> These Craftsman saws like his don't have a lock for the angle. They don't
> move a degree once you set the angle so there's really no need for one.
> Hell, I never use the lock on my saw, and it has one. Never had a problem,
> and if I *did* use it, I'd be cursing every time I went to crank a little
> angle into the blade and forgot that I had locked it...
>
Thanks, I don't know that particular saw. Saws
with two wheels--height and angle, that I have
seen have a lock. Without it locked my saw will
gradually move.