firstjois wrote:
> Dan Valleskey wrote:
>
>>>I've been using a 3M product, sort of a super glue for cuts. Stops
>>>the bleeding, lasts long enough. Little bitty tube.
>
> I use real super glue.
>
Oh don't do that, it causes liver damage!
:-)
Disclaimer for the humor impaired: The above comment is intended as
sarcastic humor due to the presence of two other current threads
regarding the preceived dangers of acetone.
Jeff
Yours is better stocked than mine. Mine is in fact a pull-out medicine
cabinet from a bathroom remodel. Includes a mirror in case I need to check
how badly my head is cut, or worst yet, my hair falls out of place. As for
content suggestions, a feminine sanitary napkin is good for slapping on a
bad cut to stem bleeding until a real bandage, or professional attention,
can be managed. They are sterile and very absorbent.
--
********
Bill Pounds
http://www.billpounds.com
"Andy Dingley" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "longshot" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >buy some bandaids. <g>
>
> It's a reasonable suggestion.
>
> There's also the problem that the workshop is usually outside the
> house and you don't want to be dripping blood and sawdust across the
> carpets and up to the bathroom. So get yourself a workshop first-aid
> kit that you can keep closer to hand.
>
> What's in yours ? Suggestions welcome.
>
> Mine has the following, amongst others:
>
> Tweezers, scissors, scalpel blades and disposable needles. My main
> injury needing repair is pulling splinters out of things. Sometimes I
> need to dig.
>
> Yellow sharps box. Also works for workshop sharps like snap-off
> knifeblades.
>
> Waterjel burn treatment. Squirt bottle and slap-on dressings. Mainly
> for welding, not woodwork, this is an excellent quick fix for small
> blisters where you've touched still-hot steel.
>
> Tea Tree Oil. My favourite quick treatment for small cuts and
> scrapes. Antiseptic and seems to assist rapid healing - by "healing"
> I don't mean total repair, I mean getting solid enough skin across the
> hole that it stops pulling open when you keep using the fingers.
>
> Bandaids. Got some, never use them. They just don't stay put in a
> workshop.
>
> Microporous tape and a roll of gauze. If I have cut something enough
> to want to cover it, then I do it with lashings of this. Cutting a
> finger stall to cover it out of a rubber glove, then taping that down
> on top, also helps to keep the dressing in place.
>
> Eyewash. Good for dusty eyes. Use it after every day's MDF routing.
> Your eyes will feel a lot better by midnight if you already used it at
> the end of every dusty shift. Stuff doesn't keep either, so it doesn't
> really matter how fast you use it up.
>
> Eyewash - the sealed sterile one-shot bottles for washing big things
> out.
>
> Surgical spirit. Handy quick clean up for grubby workshop paws, and so
> much safer than acetone ! (That's a joke you humourless muppet)
>
> Assorted dressing stuff. Just get a reasonable ready-packed kit.
>
> A _big_ box to put it in, easy to open and easy to close, with
> sensible clips and no need to sit on it to get the lid shut. Mine is
> tin and 50 years old - I've never seen a plastic one with usable
> catches.
>
>
> In the on-site box there's also the traumatic amputation kit, just in
> case of chainsaw or machete accidents. I hope never to use it, but
> it's worth having it, and being trained in what to do, because
> otherwise you have to carry the bits 20 miles home, like something out
> of Reader's Digest. There's an inflatable splint in there too, which
> I have had to use once and bloody useful it was too - immobilises a
> broken limb with almost no operator skill necessary.
>
On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 15:43:56 +0000 (UTC), the inscrutable "Kevin
O`Brien" <[email protected]> spake:
>Thanks for the advice Josie.
>
>If you or anyone can recommend a suitable book that I can find on Amazon
>maybe, that would be great.
Go see Grogs. He has a list.
http://woodworking.homeip.net/wood/reference/books.htm
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It was somewhere outside Barstow when Bob G.
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Just do not understand the comments about buying bandaids and setting
>the speed dial for the Hostital on your telephone
"Bandaids" is light humour. (and you do need them !)
The "hospital on speed dial" comment was by the OP. Now that's not
funny as a comment, but it's a reasonable humorous reply
_by_the_poster_ to the "Bandaid" comment.
Lighten up people !
PS - New thread on "What goes in the medicine cabinet"
"Kevin O`Brien" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi,
>
> I am a complete novice to woodwork and wondered if there were any books,
> videos, dvds or websites you could recommend.
>
> I am interested in furniture making and toys.
>
> I have a week long carpentry course starting soon and would like a head
> start.
>
> Any recommendations most welcome.
>
> Thanks
>
>
buy some bandaids. <g>
Seriously, probably watching the guys on TV that make it look so simple
because they can build a curio cabinet in a half hour show is a good place
to start.
Half the battle is having the right tools. I suggest starting with something
simple like a book case or night stand. Use Pine since it is soft & somewhat
forgiving ( easy to sand anyway) . Birch plywood matches it pretty well if
you want to use it for the carcass. That's where I started.
--
Be cool,
Longshot
On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 13:35:03 -0800, Pounds on Wood <[email protected]> wrote:
> Yours is better stocked than mine. Mine is in fact a pull-out medicine
> cabinet from a bathroom remodel. Includes a mirror in case I need to check
> how badly my head is cut, or worst yet, my hair falls out of place. As for
> content suggestions, a feminine sanitary napkin is good for slapping on a
> bad cut to stem bleeding until a real bandage, or professional attention,
> can be managed. They are sterile and very absorbent.
And the "trauma dressings" we carry on the ambulance are nearly exactly
the same thing.
Kevin,
I was a computer programmer until a few years ago I decided that staring at
a screen all day wasn't for me. I was lucky enough to swap some machines
for a bit of coding for a local machinery supplier so I had a head start
with machinery and that made a big difference. If you're out to make money
at joinery then you'll need the machines sooner or later, preferably sooner.
Be prepared to feel a fool and make lots and lots and lots of mistakes. But
don't give up. It's not rocket science...I still make mistakes (as do all
woodworkers) but it's knowing how to recover from mistakes which makes all
the difference.
One rule I have always stuck to is to be cautious when dealing with machines
and sharp tools.
Books...I'd recommend a trip to the Library and start getting up to speed on
manual techniques like Mortice and Tenon etc etc. Once you know the manual
method of making a joint you'll understand the machines you may aquire later
all the better. Start to read about the machines too. It's a long learning
process and reading ahead is likely to have it's rewards.
Don't buy a single tool/machine until you have a definite need for it.
Money wasted on useless tools is money that could have gone towards a better
quality tool that you'll eventually use lots...(an example of my own, early
on I bought a stanley jack plane, gets used occasionally but for the most
part it sits on the shelf slowly corroding....the stanley 4 1/2 gets used
daily though)
Cheers
Nicholas
--
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http://www.nbjoinery.net
--
"Stephen M" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>> I am a complete novice to woodwork and wondered if there were any books,
>> videos, dvds or websites you could recommend.
>>
>> I am interested in furniture making and toys.
>
> Good it helps to know where you're focus will be.
>
>> I have a week long carpentry course starting soon and would like a head
>> start.
>
> An excellent place to start. Here across the pond carpentry refers more to
> on-site construction of things like houses. I'll assume that that is a
> cultural language subtlty.
>>
>> Any recommendations most welcome.
>>
>
> Periodicals. I'm not sure what's available over there. I used to get
> Better
> Homes and Gardens: Wood. Like several other magazines it has a mix of
> projects, product reviews, and articles on techniques. The ads can be fun
> to
> look at too.
>
> I think a mix like this is appropriate for someone who is in the "I don't
> know what I don't know" stage.
>
> For a book, I would suggest "Understanding Wood Finishes" by Bob Flexnor.
> (Not specifially "woodworking" but necessary)
>
> -Steve
>
>
Kevin O`Brien wrote:
snip
> I'll post a photo of my first creation on this group for your viewing
> pleasure (or maybe that should be amusement!).
PLease post it to news:alt.binaries.pictures.woodworking instead,
this isn't a binaries group.
Dave in Fairfax
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PATINA
http://www.Patinatools.org/
Whilst you're on your learning curve Kevin...
Pass my details on to your cousin....
Cheers
Nicholas
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"Kevin O`Brien" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Thanks for your advice Stephen.
>
> Maybe carpentry means the same here too. I am that much of a novice! Not
> looking at to do on-site contruction, but simple elegant items like
> furniture and toys.
>
> I didn't think about getting a periodical. Will pop out this afternoon
> and
> get one I think!
>
> Thanks again.
>
> "Stephen M" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> > I am a complete novice to woodwork and wondered if there were any
>> > books,
>> > videos, dvds or websites you could recommend.
>> >
>> > I am interested in furniture making and toys.
>>
>> Good it helps to know where you're focus will be.
>>
>> > I have a week long carpentry course starting soon and would like a head
>> > start.
>>
>> An excellent place to start. Here across the pond carpentry refers more
>> to
>> on-site construction of things like houses. I'll assume that that is a
>> cultural language subtlty.
>> >
>> > Any recommendations most welcome.
>> >
>>
>> Periodicals. I'm not sure what's available over there. I used to get
> Better
>> Homes and Gardens: Wood. Like several other magazines it has a mix of
>> projects, product reviews, and articles on techniques. The ads can be fun
> to
>> look at too.
>>
>> I think a mix like this is appropriate for someone who is in the "I don't
>> know what I don't know" stage.
>>
>> For a book, I would suggest "Understanding Wood Finishes" by Bob Flexnor.
>> (Not specifially "woodworking" but necessary)
>>
>> -Steve
>>
>>
>
>
Andy Dingley wrote:
> "Bandaids" is light humour. (and you do need them !)
> The "hospital on speed dial" comment was by the OP. Now that's not
> funny as a comment, but it's a reasonable humorous reply
> _by_the_poster_ to the "Bandaid" comment.
> Lighten up people !
> PS - New thread on "What goes in the medicine cabinet"
I thought it was humor as well, with just a tip of the hat to Roy.
Dave in Fairfax
--
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reply-to doesn't work
use:
daveldr at att dot net
American Association of Woodturners
http://www.woodturner.org
Capital Area Woodturners
http://www.capwoodturners.org/
PATINA
http://www.Patinatools.org/
Andy Dingley wrote:
snip
> I do wonder who this "Roy" character is.
Roy Underhill is the lead neander in a local amusement park in
Wmsburg, VA. %-) Known for his pink polish.
Dave in Fairfax
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reply-to doesn't work
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PATINA
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>>>>
>>> ==========================
>>> No comment....
>>>
>>> Bob Griffiths
>
>Would you have commented if he'd written: "It's called humor, jack ass"?
>
>Just a thought.
>
>Josie
>
===============
I did not take it as a joke... Call it anyway you like..
I just did not feel like a response would do a damn bit of good...
Bob Griffiths
"longshot" <[email protected]> wrote:
>buy some bandaids. <g>
It's a reasonable suggestion.
There's also the problem that the workshop is usually outside the
house and you don't want to be dripping blood and sawdust across the
carpets and up to the bathroom. So get yourself a workshop first-aid
kit that you can keep closer to hand.
What's in yours ? Suggestions welcome.
Mine has the following, amongst others:
Tweezers, scissors, scalpel blades and disposable needles. My main
injury needing repair is pulling splinters out of things. Sometimes I
need to dig.
Yellow sharps box. Also works for workshop sharps like snap-off
knifeblades.
Waterjel burn treatment. Squirt bottle and slap-on dressings. Mainly
for welding, not woodwork, this is an excellent quick fix for small
blisters where you've touched still-hot steel.
Tea Tree Oil. My favourite quick treatment for small cuts and
scrapes. Antiseptic and seems to assist rapid healing - by "healing"
I don't mean total repair, I mean getting solid enough skin across the
hole that it stops pulling open when you keep using the fingers.
Bandaids. Got some, never use them. They just don't stay put in a
workshop.
Microporous tape and a roll of gauze. If I have cut something enough
to want to cover it, then I do it with lashings of this. Cutting a
finger stall to cover it out of a rubber glove, then taping that down
on top, also helps to keep the dressing in place.
Eyewash. Good for dusty eyes. Use it after every day's MDF routing.
Your eyes will feel a lot better by midnight if you already used it at
the end of every dusty shift. Stuff doesn't keep either, so it doesn't
really matter how fast you use it up.
Eyewash - the sealed sterile one-shot bottles for washing big things
out.
Surgical spirit. Handy quick clean up for grubby workshop paws, and so
much safer than acetone ! (That's a joke you humourless muppet)
Assorted dressing stuff. Just get a reasonable ready-packed kit.
A _big_ box to put it in, easy to open and easy to close, with
sensible clips and no need to sit on it to get the lid shut. Mine is
tin and 50 years old - I've never seen a plastic one with usable
catches.
In the on-site box there's also the traumatic amputation kit, just in
case of chainsaw or machete accidents. I hope never to use it, but
it's worth having it, and being trained in what to do, because
otherwise you have to carry the bits 20 miles home, like something out
of Reader's Digest. There's an inflatable splint in there too, which
I have had to use once and bloody useful it was too - immobilises a
broken limb with almost no operator skill necessary.
It was somewhere outside Barstow when "firstjois"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I use real super glue.
I've stopped doing that since I researched the health hazards of it.
Now I've got some of the real medical stuff (it's not quite the same).
On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 12:38:53 -0500, "longshot"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>
>> Just do not understand the comments about buying bandaids and setting
>> the speed dial for the Hostital on your telephone....Seems to me the
>> posters who made those suggestions are a little immature or whatever
>> you waish to call them...helpful they are not...
>
>It's called humor jack ass
>
==========================
No comment....
Bob Griffiths
On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:22:29 +0000, Andy Dingley
<[email protected]> wrote:
>It was somewhere outside Barstow when Bob G.
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Just do not understand the comments about buying bandaids and setting
>>the speed dial for the Hostital on your telephone
>
>"Bandaids" is light humour. (and you do need them !)
>
>The "hospital on speed dial" comment was by the OP. Now that's not
>funny as a comment, but it's a reasonable humorous reply
>_by_the_poster_ to the "Bandaid" comment.
>
>Lighten up people !
>
>
>PS - New thread on "What goes in the medicine cabinet"
===============================
You are of course correct... If the reply had come in the middle of
the thread instead of being the 1st reply to a serious question asked
by a newbie I may have been able to take it in a different light...
Bob Griffiths
On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 02:25:41 +0000, Andy Dingley
<[email protected]> scribbled:
<snip of good "advise", which I second, except for the obscure
references to UK rags which I know nothing about and Blizzard which
are almost unknown in the Yukon>
>Websites to look at are Jeff Gorman's on planing, Pat Warner's on
>routers and Patrick's Blood and Gore for plane history.
Just to help you along here are the URLs to the sites Andy recommends:
Jeff Gorman
http://www.amgron.clara.net/
http://www.patwarner.com/
Patrick Leach
http://www.supertool.com/StanleyBG/stan0a.html
Luigi
Replace "nonet" with "yukonomics" for real email address
www.yukonomics.ca/wooddorking/humour.html
www.yukonomics.ca/wooddorking/antifaq.html
Bob G. wrote:
> Just do not understand the comments about buying bandaids and setting
> the speed dial for the Hostital on your telephone....Seems to me the
> posters who made those suggestions are a little immature or whatever
> you waish to call them...helpful they are not...
>
> Anyway I am glad you at least express an interest in woodworking...
>
> I will admit that I never took a single class (excluding wood shop in
> Jr. High School) nor read any books on woodworking before I got
> interested in woodworking...I just had a need as a new homeowner to
> "fix" a few things around the house...and discovered that I could "do
> my thing" and have a a relaxating evening at the same time...
>
> Over the years I most have picked up a book or two but honestly I can
> not remember doing it...I just learned the hard way...make a mistake
> correct it..move on and make another mistake..
>
> BUT if I were smart I would have at least spent some time in the
> library just looking at how things are constructed... A good book on
> Joints ..their construction strenghts and weakness would have saved me
> a lot of frustration...
Like Bob, I got started in woodworking by remodeling my house, on the last room now. I would advise
you get started by building things for the shop: wall cabinets, router table, shelves. Practice
different methods of joinery on these pieces because you will make mistakes, lots of them. Much
better to make them on things for the shop made with "cheap" wood and be proficient before
graduating to more expensive things. Shop cabinets are also a great way to practice different
finishes and find the ones you like (and dislike).
I started in my house by remodeling a bedroom into my "play room" with a built in desk and floor to
ceiling bookcases. Looks OK to the uninitiated but I would be embarassed to show them to this
group. I'm ready to rip all the work out and start over, wish I knew what I was doing before I
started.
I took some classes, learned a lot by reading this group, got some help when I needed it. I still
consider myself a beginner, but a lot more advanced than when I started. I think woodworking is a
lot like golf or playing bridge, the more you learn, the more you know what you still have to learn.
Good luck and keep a thick skin when posting.
I am planning to take it a step further by having a bottle saline solution
and plastic bag at the ready. I will also instruct SWMBO what they are for.
(Just in case.)
>
> Not just wrong: totally wrong
>
> 1) It is simply common sense to keep a well-stocked first aid kit in the
> shop. Accidents happen. "Bandaids" was a funny quip, but it addressed a
> serious situation. There are more "tools" in a well set up shop than just
> the woodworking tools that a newbie might consider.
>
> 2) There is no substitute for following best practices with power
> machinery. That said, accidents do happen. Power tools will do enough
> damage very quickly that the first aid kit may be inadequate. A phone in
> the shop can be, literally, a life-saver.
>
> 3) We hobbyists are often working alone. There's no-one else who can call
> for help.
>
> The three-stitch cut I got on my hand last Saturday (my hatchet merely
> -touched- me, not even swinging) is healing nicely. Both SWMBO and swmo
> were present and helped bandage the hand for the trip to the clinic.
>
> --
> "Keep your ass behind you"
> vladimir a t mad {dot} scientist {dot} com
>
J. Clarke wrote:
>> firstjois wrote:
>>
>>> Dan Valleskey wrote:
>>>>> I've been using a 3M product, sort of a super glue for cuts.
>>>>> Stops the bleeding, lasts long enough. Little bitty tube.
>>>>>
>>> [snip]
>>>
>>> I use real super glue.
>>
>> You might want to google "cyanoacrylate surgical adhesive". There's
>> a lot of information out there--turns out that there are good
>> reasons that special formulations were developed for medical use.
>>
>>>
>>> Josie
>>
Thanks all, I'll check that out!
Josie
Kevin O`Brien wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am a complete novice to woodwork and wondered if there were any
>> books, videos, dvds or websites you could recommend.
>>
>> I am interested in furniture making and toys.
>>
>> I have a week long carpentry course starting soon and would like a
>> head start.
>>
>> Any recommendations most welcome.
>>
>> Thanks
Lucky you! Bet there are a lot of people here who would say they wished
they had started out in a formal class rather than picking up information
and skills by pits and pieces. Until your classes start you might check out
the contents of your local library. You'll get to look at lots of things
without cost and be able to consider buying the books your course may
recommend. Somewhere around here there is a list of books most of the
group would recommend - it usually pops up every few days.
Josie
I'll say it again, LIBRARY. In the states it's free. I would think it the
same in the UK.
Tom
"Kevin O`Brien" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "longshot" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Seriously, probably watching the guys on TV that make it look so simple
>> because they can build a curio cabinet in a half hour show is a good
>> place
>> to start.
>>
>> Half the battle is having the right tools. I suggest starting with
> something
>> simple like a book case or night stand. Use Pine since it is soft &
> somewhat
>> forgiving ( easy to sand anyway) . Birch plywood matches it pretty well
>> if
>> you want to use it for the carcass. That's where I started.
>>
>> --
>> Be cool,
>> Longshot
>>
>>
>
> Thanks for the advice.
>
> Although, being in the UK and only having the basic 5 channels (don't have
> cable or satalite), there aren't any suitable TV programmes on.
>
>
Bob G. <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
>
> Just do not understand the comments about buying bandaids and setting
> the speed dial for the Hostital on your telephone....Seems to me the
> posters who made those suggestions are a little immature or whatever
> you waish to call them...helpful they are not...
>
I only saw the replies. The smartass had earned killfile status for
previous commentary.
To the OP: Reasonable care and caution is merited, however, millions of
trees have given their all, with relatively few trips to the hospital. And
given that many of us are trending towards 'old fart' status, that says a
lot about the relative safety of the craft, particularly for hobbyists.
Work safely. Have fun. Make something. Smile frequently.
Patriarch
ps: Tage Frid teaches Woodworking, volumes 1&2 (combined printing), is an
excellent investment of your time. Even if your library doesn't stock it.
On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 12:54:39 +0000 (UTC), the inscrutable "Kevin
O`Brien" <[email protected]> spake:
>Thanks for that Larry
>
>"Larry Jaques" <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote in message
>> Go see Grogs. He has a list.
>> http://woodworking.homeip.net/wood/reference/books.htm
Brian, do yourself and us a favor: Don't top-post and DO snip posts.
Oh, and do post a link to your project for our amusement. ;)
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"longshot" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Kevin O`Brien" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am a complete novice to woodwork and wondered if there were any books,
> > videos, dvds or websites you could recommend.
> >
> > I am interested in furniture making and toys.
> >
> > I have a week long carpentry course starting soon and would like a head
> > start.
> >
> > Any recommendations most welcome.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
>
>
> buy some bandaids. <g>
>
>
>
got the hospital on speed dial thanks
Thanks for the advice Josie.
If you or anyone can recommend a suitable book that I can find on Amazon
maybe, that would be great.
"firstjois" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Kevin O`Brien wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I am a complete novice to woodwork and wondered if there were any
> >> books, videos, dvds or websites you could recommend.
> >>
> >> I am interested in furniture making and toys.
> >>
> >> I have a week long carpentry course starting soon and would like a
> >> head start.
> >>
> >> Any recommendations most welcome.
> >>
> >> Thanks
>
> Lucky you! Bet there are a lot of people here who would say they wished
> they had started out in a formal class rather than picking up information
> and skills by pits and pieces. Until your classes start you might check
out
> the contents of your local library. You'll get to look at lots of things
> without cost and be able to consider buying the books your course may
> recommend. Somewhere around here there is a list of books most of the
> group would recommend - it usually pops up every few days.
>
> Josie
>
>
"longshot" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Seriously, probably watching the guys on TV that make it look so simple
> because they can build a curio cabinet in a half hour show is a good place
> to start.
>
> Half the battle is having the right tools. I suggest starting with
something
> simple like a book case or night stand. Use Pine since it is soft &
somewhat
> forgiving ( easy to sand anyway) . Birch plywood matches it pretty well if
> you want to use it for the carcass. That's where I started.
>
> --
> Be cool,
> Longshot
>
>
Thanks for the advice.
Although, being in the UK and only having the basic 5 channels (don't have
cable or satalite), there aren't any suitable TV programmes on.
They are yes!
"Tom Cavanagh" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I'll say it again, LIBRARY. In the states it's free. I would think it the
> same in the UK.
> Tom
> "Kevin O`Brien" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > "longshot" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >> Seriously, probably watching the guys on TV that make it look so simple
> >> because they can build a curio cabinet in a half hour show is a good
> >> place
> >> to start.
> >>
> >> Half the battle is having the right tools. I suggest starting with
> > something
> >> simple like a book case or night stand. Use Pine since it is soft &
> > somewhat
> >> forgiving ( easy to sand anyway) . Birch plywood matches it pretty well
> >> if
> >> you want to use it for the carcass. That's where I started.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Be cool,
> >> Longshot
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Thanks for the advice.
> >
> > Although, being in the UK and only having the basic 5 channels (don't
have
> > cable or satalite), there aren't any suitable TV programmes on.
> >
> >
>
>
> I am a complete novice to woodwork and wondered if there were any books,
> videos, dvds or websites you could recommend.
>
> I am interested in furniture making and toys.
Good it helps to know where you're focus will be.
> I have a week long carpentry course starting soon and would like a head
> start.
An excellent place to start. Here across the pond carpentry refers more to
on-site construction of things like houses. I'll assume that that is a
cultural language subtlty.
>
> Any recommendations most welcome.
>
Periodicals. I'm not sure what's available over there. I used to get Better
Homes and Gardens: Wood. Like several other magazines it has a mix of
projects, product reviews, and articles on techniques. The ads can be fun to
look at too.
I think a mix like this is appropriate for someone who is in the "I don't
know what I don't know" stage.
For a book, I would suggest "Understanding Wood Finishes" by Bob Flexnor.
(Not specifially "woodworking" but necessary)
-Steve
"firstjois" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Try this list:
>
> http://www.inthewoodshop.org/general/treatise.shtml
>
> Josie
>
>
Thanks very much Josie
Thanks very much for the advice Bob.
I'll head over to the library but as you said, nothing is going to teach me
more than actually doing it.
Looking forward to my course. It's only a week long, but should give me the
basics to go on and learn more.
"Bob G." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Just do not understand the comments about buying bandaids and setting
> the speed dial for the Hostital on your telephone....Seems to me the
> posters who made those suggestions are a little immature or whatever
> you waish to call them...helpful they are not...
>
> Anyway I am glad you at least express an interest in woodworking...
>
> I will admit that I never took a single class (excluding wood shop in
> Jr. High School) nor read any books on woodworking before I got
> interested in woodworking...I just had a need as a new homeowner to
> "fix" a few things around the house...and discovered that I could "do
> my thing" and have a a relaxating evening at the same time...
>
> Over the years I most have picked up a book or two but honestly I can
> not remember doing it...I just learned the hard way...make a mistake
> correct it..move on and make another mistake..
>
> BUT if I were smart I would have at least spent some time in the
> library just looking at how things are constructed... A good book on
> Joints ..their construction strenghts and weakness would have saved me
> a lot of frustration...
>
> Lots of luck... Top posted to make the Bandaid POSTER scroll down
> aand down before he discovered I deleted his post....
>
> Bob Griffiths
> ======================
> >Lucky you! Bet there are a lot of people here who would say they wished
> >they had started out in a formal class rather than picking up information
> >and skills by pits and pieces. Until your classes start you might check
out
> >the contents of your local library. You'll get to look at lots of things
> >without cost and be able to consider buying the books your course may
> >recommend. Somewhere around here there is a list of books most of the
> >group would recommend - it usually pops up every few days.
> >
> >Josie
> >
>
Thanks for that Larry
"Larry Jaques" <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 15:43:56 +0000 (UTC), the inscrutable "Kevin
> O`Brien" <[email protected]> spake:
>
> >Thanks for the advice Josie.
> >
> >If you or anyone can recommend a suitable book that I can find on Amazon
> >maybe, that would be great.
>
> Go see Grogs. He has a list.
>
> http://woodworking.homeip.net/wood/reference/books.htm
>
>
> --
> EAT SOYLENT McD!
> ----------------------
> http://diversify.com People-free Websites
"Patriarch" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Bob G. <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
> >
> > Just do not understand the comments about buying bandaids and setting
> > the speed dial for the Hostital on your telephone....Seems to me the
> > posters who made those suggestions are a little immature or whatever
> > you waish to call them...helpful they are not...
> >
>
> I only saw the replies. The smartass had earned killfile status for
> previous commentary.
>
> To the OP: Reasonable care and caution is merited, however, millions of
> trees have given their all, with relatively few trips to the hospital.
And
> given that many of us are trending towards 'old fart' status, that says a
> lot about the relative safety of the craft, particularly for hobbyists.
>
> Work safely. Have fun. Make something. Smile frequently.
>
> Patriarch
>
> ps: Tage Frid teaches Woodworking, volumes 1&2 (combined printing), is an
> excellent investment of your time. Even if your library doesn't stock it.
Thanks very much for the advice
"oldhippiedave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Bob G. wrote:
> > Just do not understand the comments about buying bandaids and setting
> > the speed dial for the Hostital on your telephone....Seems to me the
> > posters who made those suggestions are a little immature or whatever
> > you waish to call them...helpful they are not...
> >
> > Anyway I am glad you at least express an interest in woodworking...
> >
> > I will admit that I never took a single class (excluding wood shop in
> > Jr. High School) nor read any books on woodworking before I got
> > interested in woodworking...I just had a need as a new homeowner to
> > "fix" a few things around the house...and discovered that I could "do
> > my thing" and have a a relaxating evening at the same time...
> >
> > Over the years I most have picked up a book or two but honestly I can
> > not remember doing it...I just learned the hard way...make a mistake
> > correct it..move on and make another mistake..
> >
> > BUT if I were smart I would have at least spent some time in the
> > library just looking at how things are constructed... A good book on
> > Joints ..their construction strenghts and weakness would have saved me
> > a lot of frustration...
>
> Like Bob, I got started in woodworking by remodeling my house, on the last
room now. I would advise
> you get started by building things for the shop: wall cabinets, router
table, shelves. Practice
> different methods of joinery on these pieces because you will make
mistakes, lots of them. Much
> better to make them on things for the shop made with "cheap" wood and be
proficient before
> graduating to more expensive things. Shop cabinets are also a great way
to practice different
> finishes and find the ones you like (and dislike).
>
> I started in my house by remodeling a bedroom into my "play room" with a
built in desk and floor to
> ceiling bookcases. Looks OK to the uninitiated but I would be embarassed
to show them to this
> group. I'm ready to rip all the work out and start over, wish I knew what
I was doing before I
> started.
>
> I took some classes, learned a lot by reading this group, got some help
when I needed it. I still
> consider myself a beginner, but a lot more advanced than when I started.
I think woodworking is a
> lot like golf or playing bridge, the more you learn, the more you know
what you still have to learn.
>
> Good luck and keep a thick skin when posting.
Thanks very much for the advice.
I must say everyone has been very helpful to me in this group.
I'll post a photo of my first creation on this group for your viewing
pleasure (or maybe that should be amusement!).
Thanks for your advice Stephen.
Maybe carpentry means the same here too. I am that much of a novice! Not
looking at to do on-site contruction, but simple elegant items like
furniture and toys.
I didn't think about getting a periodical. Will pop out this afternoon and
get one I think!
Thanks again.
"Stephen M" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> > I am a complete novice to woodwork and wondered if there were any books,
> > videos, dvds or websites you could recommend.
> >
> > I am interested in furniture making and toys.
>
> Good it helps to know where you're focus will be.
>
> > I have a week long carpentry course starting soon and would like a head
> > start.
>
> An excellent place to start. Here across the pond carpentry refers more to
> on-site construction of things like houses. I'll assume that that is a
> cultural language subtlty.
> >
> > Any recommendations most welcome.
> >
>
> Periodicals. I'm not sure what's available over there. I used to get
Better
> Homes and Gardens: Wood. Like several other magazines it has a mix of
> projects, product reviews, and articles on techniques. The ads can be fun
to
> look at too.
>
> I think a mix like this is appropriate for someone who is in the "I don't
> know what I don't know" stage.
>
> For a book, I would suggest "Understanding Wood Finishes" by Bob Flexnor.
> (Not specifially "woodworking" but necessary)
>
> -Steve
>
>
Funnily enough I am a computer programmer at the moment! Like you, getting
bored of staring at a monitor all day. I don't expect to make a living at
it, not at the moment anyway. Although, I have a cousin who is an interior
designer (www.uk-vibe.com - wrote the web site!) and she can pay thousands
of pounds for a piece of furniture, so I know who my first client will be!!
I just like the feel and texture of wood and the idea of creating something
ecstatically pleasing and functional to share with others is great.
Thanks very much for the advice on books and machinery.
"Nicholas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Kevin,
>
> I was a computer programmer until a few years ago I decided that staring
at
> a screen all day wasn't for me. I was lucky enough to swap some machines
> for a bit of coding for a local machinery supplier so I had a head start
> with machinery and that made a big difference. If you're out to make
money
> at joinery then you'll need the machines sooner or later, preferably
sooner.
>
> Be prepared to feel a fool and make lots and lots and lots of mistakes.
But
> don't give up. It's not rocket science...I still make mistakes (as do all
> woodworkers) but it's knowing how to recover from mistakes which makes all
> the difference.
>
> One rule I have always stuck to is to be cautious when dealing with
machines
> and sharp tools.
>
> Books...I'd recommend a trip to the Library and start getting up to speed
on
> manual techniques like Mortice and Tenon etc etc. Once you know the
manual
> method of making a joint you'll understand the machines you may aquire
later
> all the better. Start to read about the machines too. It's a long
learning
> process and reading ahead is likely to have it's rewards.
>
> Don't buy a single tool/machine until you have a definite need for it.
> Money wasted on useless tools is money that could have gone towards a
better
> quality tool that you'll eventually use lots...(an example of my own,
early
> on I bought a stanley jack plane, gets used occasionally but for the most
> part it sits on the shelf slowly corroding....the stanley 4 1/2 gets used
> daily though)
>
> Cheers
>
> Nicholas
>
> --
> Nicholas Buttle - Quality Joinery and Cabinet Making
> http://www.nbjoinery.net
>
>
> --
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Stephen M" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >> I am a complete novice to woodwork and wondered if there were any
books,
> >> videos, dvds or websites you could recommend.
> >>
> >> I am interested in furniture making and toys.
> >
> > Good it helps to know where you're focus will be.
> >
> >> I have a week long carpentry course starting soon and would like a head
> >> start.
> >
> > An excellent place to start. Here across the pond carpentry refers more
to
> > on-site construction of things like houses. I'll assume that that is a
> > cultural language subtlty.
> >>
> >> Any recommendations most welcome.
> >>
> >
> > Periodicals. I'm not sure what's available over there. I used to get
> > Better
> > Homes and Gardens: Wood. Like several other magazines it has a mix of
> > projects, product reviews, and articles on techniques. The ads can be
fun
> > to
> > look at too.
> >
> > I think a mix like this is appropriate for someone who is in the "I
don't
> > know what I don't know" stage.
> >
> > For a book, I would suggest "Understanding Wood Finishes" by Bob
Flexnor.
> > (Not specifially "woodworking" but necessary)
> >
> > -Steve
> >
> >
>
>
I'll put up a link instead
"Dave in Fairfax" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Kevin O`Brien wrote:
> snip
> > I'll post a photo of my first creation on this group for your viewing
> > pleasure (or maybe that should be amusement!).
>
> PLease post it to news:alt.binaries.pictures.woodworking instead,
> this isn't a binaries group.
>
> Dave in Fairfax
> --
> Dave Leader
> reply-to doesn't work
> use:
> daveldr at att dot net
> American Association of Woodturners
> http://www.woodturner.org
> Capital Area Woodturners
> http://www.capwoodturners.org/
> PATINA
> http://www.Patinatools.org/
Will do.
"Nicholas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Whilst you're on your learning curve Kevin...
>
> Pass my details on to your cousin....
>
> Cheers
>
> Nicholas
>
>
> --
> Nicholas Buttle - Quality Joinery and Cabinet Making
> http://www.nbjoinery.net
>
>
> --
>
>
> "Kevin O`Brien" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Thanks for your advice Stephen.
> >
> > Maybe carpentry means the same here too. I am that much of a novice!
Not
> > looking at to do on-site contruction, but simple elegant items like
> > furniture and toys.
> >
> > I didn't think about getting a periodical. Will pop out this afternoon
> > and
> > get one I think!
> >
> > Thanks again.
> >
> > "Stephen M" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >> > I am a complete novice to woodwork and wondered if there were any
> >> > books,
> >> > videos, dvds or websites you could recommend.
> >> >
> >> > I am interested in furniture making and toys.
> >>
> >> Good it helps to know where you're focus will be.
> >>
> >> > I have a week long carpentry course starting soon and would like a
head
> >> > start.
> >>
> >> An excellent place to start. Here across the pond carpentry refers more
> >> to
> >> on-site construction of things like houses. I'll assume that that is a
> >> cultural language subtlty.
> >> >
> >> > Any recommendations most welcome.
> >> >
> >>
> >> Periodicals. I'm not sure what's available over there. I used to get
> > Better
> >> Homes and Gardens: Wood. Like several other magazines it has a mix of
> >> projects, product reviews, and articles on techniques. The ads can be
fun
> > to
> >> look at too.
> >>
> >> I think a mix like this is appropriate for someone who is in the "I
don't
> >> know what I don't know" stage.
> >>
> >> For a book, I would suggest "Understanding Wood Finishes" by Bob
Flexnor.
> >> (Not specifially "woodworking" but necessary)
> >>
> >> -Steve
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
"Andy Dingley" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> It was somewhere outside Barstow when "Kevin O`Brien"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >I am a complete novice to woodwork and wondered if there were any books,
> >videos, dvds or websites you could recommend.
>
> Fine Woodworking magazine. Either this issue or the last one had a
> nice piece on book recommendations. Good mag too.
>
> Good Woodworking is the best UK beginner mag, but graduate to
> Furniture and Cabinet making when you can. I don't often read either,
> but FWW is essential.
>
>
> Definitely get (buy them right now):
>
> "Tage Frid Teaches Woodworking, Vols 1 & 2"
> <http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/1561580686/codesmiths>
>
> Flexner's "Understanding Wood Finishing"
> <http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0762101911/codesmiths>
>
> Joyce too, if you can't find one on eBay.
>
>
> In time you'll also want
>
> Hoadley's "Understanding Wood"
> <http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/1561583588/codesmiths>
>
> Leonard Lee's "Complete Guide to Sharpening"
> <http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/1561580678/codesmiths>
>
>
> Avoid Blizzard. Dull techniques, rather ugly toys. Over-hyped TV
> tie-in stuff.
>
>
> Keep an eye out for these
> (try eBay - they're regulars)
>
> Joyce's "Encyclopedia of Furniture Making"
>
> "Planecraft"
> '50s handbook by Record.
>
> Old '50s technique books by Charles Hayward His "English Period
> Furniture" and "Period Furniture Designs" are good too.
>
>
> There are a great many historical or project-based books. Look for
> authors like Becksvoort or Bavarro & Mossman.
>
>
> More books at
> http://codesmiths.com/shed/books/woodworking.htm
>
>
> Websites to look at are Jeff Gorman's on planing, Pat Warner's on
> routers and Patrick's Blood and Gore for plane history.
Thanks for those book recommendations, they look pretty useful.
firstjois wrote:
> Dan Valleskey wrote:
>>> I've been using a 3M product, sort of a super glue for cuts. Stops
>>> the bleeding, lasts long enough. Little bitty tube.
>>>
> [snip]
>
> I use real super glue.
You might want to google "cyanoacrylate surgical adhesive". There's a lot
of information out there--turns out that there are good reasons that
special formulations were developed for medical use.
>
> Josie
--
--John
to email, dial "usenet" and validate
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
Phisherman wrote:
> Sorry, I meant cyonide (not arsenic.)
All superglue, including the surgical varieties, is cyanoacrylate based.
Cyanoacrylate is not cyanide.
> On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 23:35:22 GMT, Phisherman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 08:57:16 -0500, "firstjois"
>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>Dan Valleskey wrote:
>>>>> I've been using a 3M product, sort of a super glue for cuts. Stops
>>>>> the bleeding, lasts long enough. Little bitty tube.
>>>>>
>>>[snip]
>>>
>>>I use real super glue.
>>>
>>>Josie
>>>
>>
>>I would not advise using super glue. It may have an arsenic compound.
>>Too much info here, but the mortician said he had to super glue my
>>mother's body to seal up all the holes from the needles removed at the
>>hospital.
--
--John
to email, dial "usenet" and validate
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
Sorry, I meant cyonide (not arsenic.)
On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 23:35:22 GMT, Phisherman <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 08:57:16 -0500, "firstjois"
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Dan Valleskey wrote:
>>>> I've been using a 3M product, sort of a super glue for cuts. Stops
>>>> the bleeding, lasts long enough. Little bitty tube.
>>>>
>>[snip]
>>
>>I use real super glue.
>>
>>Josie
>>
>
>I would not advise using super glue. It may have an arsenic compound.
>Too much info here, but the mortician said he had to super glue my
>mother's body to seal up all the holes from the needles removed at the
>hospital.
Just do not understand the comments about buying bandaids and setting
the speed dial for the Hostital on your telephone....Seems to me the
posters who made those suggestions are a little immature or whatever
you waish to call them...helpful they are not...
Anyway I am glad you at least express an interest in woodworking...
I will admit that I never took a single class (excluding wood shop in
Jr. High School) nor read any books on woodworking before I got
interested in woodworking...I just had a need as a new homeowner to
"fix" a few things around the house...and discovered that I could "do
my thing" and have a a relaxating evening at the same time...
Over the years I most have picked up a book or two but honestly I can
not remember doing it...I just learned the hard way...make a mistake
correct it..move on and make another mistake..
BUT if I were smart I would have at least spent some time in the
library just looking at how things are constructed... A good book on
Joints ..their construction strenghts and weakness would have saved me
a lot of frustration...
Lots of luck... Top posted to make the Bandaid POSTER scroll down
aand down before he discovered I deleted his post....
Bob Griffiths
======================
>Lucky you! Bet there are a lot of people here who would say they wished
>they had started out in a formal class rather than picking up information
>and skills by pits and pieces. Until your classes start you might check out
>the contents of your local library. You'll get to look at lots of things
>without cost and be able to consider buying the books your course may
>recommend. Somewhere around here there is a list of books most of the
>group would recommend - it usually pops up every few days.
>
>Josie
>
I've been using a 3M product, sort of a super glue for cuts. Stops
the bleeding, lasts long enough. Little bitty tube.
Otherwise, I have a tweezers (Loupe is in my tool box) and a bandana
and a big box of bandaids. Sometimes I just keep the bandaid box
right on the bench.
-Dan V.
On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:38:27 +0000, Andy Dingley
<[email protected]> wrote:
>"longshot" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>buy some bandaids. <g>
>
>It's a reasonable suggestion.
>
>There's also the problem that the workshop is usually outside the
>house and you don't want to be dripping blood and sawdust across the
>carpets and up to the bathroom. So get yourself a workshop first-aid
>kit that you can keep closer to hand.
>
>What's in yours ? Suggestions welcome.
>
>Mine has the following, amongst others:
>
>Tweezers, scissors, scalpel blades and disposable needles. My main
>injury needing repair is pulling splinters out of things. Sometimes I
>need to dig.
>
>Yellow sharps box. Also works for workshop sharps like snap-off
>knifeblades.
>
>Waterjel burn treatment. Squirt bottle and slap-on dressings. Mainly
>for welding, not woodwork, this is an excellent quick fix for small
>blisters where you've touched still-hot steel.
>
>Tea Tree Oil. My favourite quick treatment for small cuts and
>scrapes. Antiseptic and seems to assist rapid healing - by "healing"
>I don't mean total repair, I mean getting solid enough skin across the
>hole that it stops pulling open when you keep using the fingers.
>
>Bandaids. Got some, never use them. They just don't stay put in a
>workshop.
>
>Microporous tape and a roll of gauze. If I have cut something enough
>to want to cover it, then I do it with lashings of this. Cutting a
>finger stall to cover it out of a rubber glove, then taping that down
>on top, also helps to keep the dressing in place.
>
>Eyewash. Good for dusty eyes. Use it after every day's MDF routing.
>Your eyes will feel a lot better by midnight if you already used it at
>the end of every dusty shift. Stuff doesn't keep either, so it doesn't
>really matter how fast you use it up.
>
>Eyewash - the sealed sterile one-shot bottles for washing big things
>out.
>
>Surgical spirit. Handy quick clean up for grubby workshop paws, and so
>much safer than acetone ! (That's a joke you humourless muppet)
>
>Assorted dressing stuff. Just get a reasonable ready-packed kit.
>
>A _big_ box to put it in, easy to open and easy to close, with
>sensible clips and no need to sit on it to get the lid shut. Mine is
>tin and 50 years old - I've never seen a plastic one with usable
>catches.
>
>
>In the on-site box there's also the traumatic amputation kit, just in
>case of chainsaw or machete accidents. I hope never to use it, but
>it's worth having it, and being trained in what to do, because
>otherwise you have to carry the bits 20 miles home, like something out
>of Reader's Digest. There's an inflatable splint in there too, which
>I have had to use once and bloody useful it was too - immobilises a
>broken limb with almost no operator skill necessary.
Bob G wrote:
>> On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 12:38:53 -0500, "longshot"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Just do not understand the comments about buying bandaids and
>>>> setting the speed dial for the Hostital on your telephone....Seems
>>>> to me the posters who made those suggestions are a little immature
>>>> or whatever you waish to call them...helpful they are not...
>>>
>>> It's called humor jack ass
>>>
>> ==========================
>> No comment....
>>
>> Bob Griffiths
Would you have commented if he'd written: "It's called humor, jack ass"?
Just a thought.
Josie
It was somewhere outside Barstow when Dave in Fairfax
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I thought it was humor as well, with just a tip of the hat to Roy.
I do wonder who this "Roy" character is.
But with three injuries today (I'm typing this on the speakerphone
again), then who am I to complain!
If you rest your hand on the top of the saw fence, then slide it
sideways for a wider rip, then don't leave your fingertip resting in
the bottom of the table slot...
On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 11:46:56 -0500, Bob G. wrote:
> Just do not understand the comments about buying bandaids and setting
> the speed dial for the Hostital on your telephone....Seems to me the
> posters who made those suggestions are a little immature or whatever
> you waish to call them...helpful they are not...
Not just wrong: totally wrong
1) It is simply common sense to keep a well-stocked first aid kit in the
shop. Accidents happen. "Bandaids" was a funny quip, but it addressed a
serious situation. There are more "tools" in a well set up shop than just
the woodworking tools that a newbie might consider.
2) There is no substitute for following best practices with power
machinery. That said, accidents do happen. Power tools will do enough
damage very quickly that the first aid kit may be inadequate. A phone in
the shop can be, literally, a life-saver.
3) We hobbyists are often working alone. There's no-one else who can call
for help.
The three-stitch cut I got on my hand last Saturday (my hatchet merely
-touched- me, not even swinging) is healing nicely. Both SWMBO and swmo
were present and helped bandage the hand for the trip to the clinic.
--
"Keep your ass behind you"
vladimir a t mad {dot} scientist {dot} com
> Andy Dingley wrote:
>
>> What's in yours ? Suggestions welcome.
>>
I'm neander: I only have a roll of paper surgical tape, a bottle
of disinfectant, a box of bandaids (fingertip, knuckle, assorted
regular), and some 2" gauze pads. I use each of these regularly. The
disinfectant is a new arrival. (My daughter absolutely refuses to let me
put Bactine on her scrapes, so I inherited the bottle.) A drop of
disinfectant on scratches too minor to bandage results in a noticeable
difference in healing time.
When I occasionally fire up the skilsaw, I first review what I'll do next
if I do something stupid.
The full nine yards of first aid stuff is upstairs. That set includes the
cartoon character bandaids, various ointments, larger gauze, Ace
wraps, and so forth.
My car/camping/hiking kits are much more complex than my WW kit.
--
"Keep your ass behind you"
vladimir a t mad {dot} scientist {dot} com
On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 11:59:38 -0500, the inscrutable Bob G.
<[email protected]> spake:
>On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:22:29 +0000, Andy Dingley
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>It was somewhere outside Barstow when Bob G.
>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>Just do not understand the comments about buying bandaids and setting
>>>the speed dial for the Hostital on your telephone
>>
>>"Bandaids" is light humour. (and you do need them !)
>>
>>The "hospital on speed dial" comment was by the OP. Now that's not
>>funny as a comment, but it's a reasonable humorous reply
>>_by_the_poster_ to the "Bandaid" comment.
>>
>>Lighten up people !
>You are of course correct... If the reply had come in the middle of
>the thread instead of being the 1st reply to a serious question asked
>by a newbie I may have been able to take it in a different light...
It's a good thing YOU'RE taking it this way vs. the OP, Bob.
Quick Question:
Got Perspective?
-
Yea, though I walk through the valley of Minwax, I shall stain no Cherry.
http://diversify.com
It was somewhere outside Barstow when Luigi Zanasi <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Blizzard which are almost unknown in the Yukon>
David Blizzard. Did some TV series in the '80s, a decade that wasn't
noted for prime woodworking. There are a number of tie-in books which
sold well at the time, are now out of print, but show up regularly as
S/H.
It's not bad stuff, and if you see a toy in there that you
particularly like, it wouldn't be a bad thing to make. The techniques
though are pretty dull - straight-line cuts through plywood, screwed
together softwood. You might make the kids something they love, but
you won't learn much woodworking from it.
It was somewhere outside Barstow when "Kevin O`Brien"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I am a complete novice to woodwork and wondered if there were any books,
>videos, dvds or websites you could recommend.
Fine Woodworking magazine. Either this issue or the last one had a
nice piece on book recommendations. Good mag too.
Good Woodworking is the best UK beginner mag, but graduate to
Furniture and Cabinet making when you can. I don't often read either,
but FWW is essential.
Definitely get (buy them right now):
"Tage Frid Teaches Woodworking, Vols 1 & 2"
<http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/1561580686/codesmiths>
Flexner's "Understanding Wood Finishing"
<http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0762101911/codesmiths>
Joyce too, if you can't find one on eBay.
In time you'll also want
Hoadley's "Understanding Wood"
<http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/1561583588/codesmiths>
Leonard Lee's "Complete Guide to Sharpening"
<http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/1561580678/codesmiths>
Avoid Blizzard. Dull techniques, rather ugly toys. Over-hyped TV
tie-in stuff.
Keep an eye out for these
(try eBay - they're regulars)
Joyce's "Encyclopedia of Furniture Making"
"Planecraft"
'50s handbook by Record.
Old '50s technique books by Charles Hayward His "English Period
Furniture" and "Period Furniture Designs" are good too.
There are a great many historical or project-based books. Look for
authors like Becksvoort or Bavarro & Mossman.
More books at
http://codesmiths.com/shed/books/woodworking.htm
Websites to look at are Jeff Gorman's on planing, Pat Warner's on
routers and Patrick's Blood and Gore for plane history.
It was somewhere outside Barstow when Phisherman <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Sorry, I meant cyonide (not arsenic.)
What's so bad about cyanide ? As deadly poisons go, it's pretty
benign. You don't accumulate it, it doesn't have side-effects unless
you receive enough of it to cause anoxia.
On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 08:57:16 -0500, "firstjois"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Dan Valleskey wrote:
>>> I've been using a 3M product, sort of a super glue for cuts. Stops
>>> the bleeding, lasts long enough. Little bitty tube.
>>>
>[snip]
>
>I use real super glue.
>
>Josie
>
I would not advise using super glue. It may have an arsenic compound.
Too much info here, but the mortician said he had to super glue my
mother's body to seal up all the holes from the needles removed at the
hospital.