The price may be cheaper at Costco but can you get woodworking advice there?
Gene
"Greg Ostrom" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> While wandering through Costco I found a set of 6 Blue Marples with a
> wooden
> mallet for $30. This seems to be a great price compared to Woodcraft. As
> far as I can tell they are identical to those I bought at Woodcraft.
>
>
>
Be careful. The mass merchants negotiate a price with manufacturers
and in many cases, the manufacturers will make a low cost version to
sell through the mass merchandizers to meet their pricing requirements.
Meaning -- it may not be an apples to apples comparison.
Greg Ostrom wrote:
> While wandering through Costco I found a set of 6 Blue Marples with a
wooden
> mallet for $30. This seems to be a great price compared to
Woodcraft. As
> far as I can tell they are identical to those I bought at Woodcraft.
But this may not be the case for chisels. It's a lot easier to slap a
blue handle on an inferior chineese chisel than it is for HP to come
out with a cheaper printer that still works but looks like the
expensive one.
I don't know if they are the same. But if I was the original poster,
I'd check to see if the marples for sale were made in England. Chances
are, a cheapened version is made in Aisa.
I was at Costco today and there were the Marples. 6 chisels (1/8th to
1") in a bubble pack with a little wooden mallet. The package and each
chisel says Made in Sheffeld England and the package states that they
are Blue Chip chisels. I guess that doesn't mean the same steel was
used as in all other Blue Chips or anything. Price for the set was $29
something. Now I have to make a new Chisel case.
Dave Hall
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>I was at Costco today and there were the Marples. 6 chisels (1/8th to
>1") in a bubble pack with a little wooden mallet. The package and each
>chisel says Made in Sheffeld England and the package states that they
>are Blue Chip chisels. I guess that doesn't mean the same steel was
>used as in all other Blue Chips or anything. Price for the set was $29
>something. Now I have to make a new Chisel case.
I was in a Woodcraft store in Manchester, CT a month ago, and they had "the
chisels formerly known as Marples Blue Chip" renamed as Irwins. I don't know
the exact corporate history, but the company that owned the Marples brand got
bought out by the Irwin brand owner. I think these chisels are the last of the
Marples-branded products, and you'll see Irwin from now on.
Ba r r y wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 22:54:58 GMT, Charles Krug
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Their point being that essentially similar mattresses would be be sold
>>under different names and model numbers at different retailers, making
>>price comparison difficult.
>
> Often the only difference is a "custom" model number.
Usually the difference is the ticking or stitching. Maybe a custom tag sewn
onto the foot of the thing or something. It happens all the time.
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> might never see it again.
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>When SWMBO and I were mattress shopping, it happened the CR had run an
>article on mattresses, pretty much stating that mattress companies
>routinely supply a "special" mattress to each of their retailers.
>
>Their point being that essentially similar mattresses would be be sold
>under different names and model numbers at different retailers, making
>price comparison difficult.
--------
That's a well known tactic in the mattress business. I was successful
at countering this by idenifying the exact matress I wanted at the
manufacturer's site, then going to a few stores. When they blew that
stink my way, I threatened to walk out unless they did an apples to
apples price match for me, regardless of what customized name was put
on the mattress. The dealers were reluctant, but I was insistent, and
they knew I had their number. Ended up saving about 150.
No, it wasn't like that, at all. And looking at the current draw on the
motor lable confirmed this.
In the end I wound up getting the 1hp enclosed stand delta model rather
than the 3/4 open stand. Also interesting with the 3/4 vs 1/2 bandsaws,
other things were the same, just different motors. Same table and throat
depth.
WD wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:22:20 -0500, Eddie Munster
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Like peak hp, max hp or ultra hp?
> Can you believe my Shop Vac is 6 Peak HP and seven times more powerful than your
> BS. :-)
>
>
>>When I went to buy a bandsaw at the borg, I thought it was a 3/4 hp. It
>>was only 1/2. Same model elsewhere was 3/4. Yes the borg was somewhat
>>cheaper, by 60 clams or so but hey, the same model number except for
>>some very small letter at the end. The only reason the borg was cheaper
>>was because I was price matching it to a delta bandsaw at a normal
>>store. When I saw the difference, I told them to forget it. Really it
>>didn't qualify for the price match because they were technically
>>different model numbers. But even under the scrutiny of pricematching,
>>that little letter went un-noticed. Yes, they were selling it (the 1/2)
>>for more that the 3/4 in a normal store. I tweaked to it while waiting
>>to pay. There have been articles about this also.
>>
>>WD. Wakeup!
>>
>>
>>
>>WD wrote:
>>
>>>On 21 Jan 2005 10:35:46 -0800, "Jerry" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>Really, how do you know?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Be careful. The mass merchants negotiate a price with manufacturers
>>>>and in many cases, the manufacturers will make a low cost version to
>>>>sell through the mass merchandizers to meet their pricing requirements.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Meaning -- it may not be an apples to apples comparison.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Greg Ostrom wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>While wandering through Costco I found a set of 6 Blue Marples with a
>>>>
>>>>wooden
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>mallet for $30. This seems to be a great price compared to
>>>>
>>>>Woodcraft. As
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>far as I can tell they are identical to those I bought at Woodcraft.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 22:54:58 GMT, Charles Krug
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Their point being that essentially similar mattresses would be be sold
>under different names and model numbers at different retailers, making
>price comparison difficult.
Often the only difference is a "custom" model number.
Barry
On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:22:20 -0500, Eddie Munster
<[email protected]> wrote: > When I went to buy a
bandsaw at the borg, I thought it was a 3/4 hp. It
> was only 1/2. Same model elsewhere was 3/4. Yes the borg was somewhat
> cheaper, by 60 clams or so but hey, the same model number except for
> some very small letter at the end. The only reason the borg was cheaper
> was because I was price matching it to a delta bandsaw at a normal
> store. When I saw the difference, I told them to forget it. Really it
> didn't qualify for the price match because they were technically
> different model numbers. But even under the scrutiny of pricematching,
> that little letter went un-noticed. Yes, they were selling it (the 1/2)
> for more that the 3/4 in a normal store. I tweaked to it while waiting
> to pay. There have been articles about this also.
>
> WD. Wakeup!
>
When SWMBO and I were mattress shopping, it happened the CR had run an
article on mattresses, pretty much stating that mattress companies
routinely supply a "special" mattress to each of their retailers.
Their point being that essentially similar mattresses would be be sold
under different names and model numbers at different retailers, making
price comparison difficult.
bf wrote:
> But this may not be the case for chisels. It's a lot easier to slap a
> blue handle on an inferior chineese chisel than it is for HP to come
> out with a cheaper printer that still works but looks like the
> expensive one.
>
> I don't know if they are the same. But if I was the original poster,
> I'd check to see if the marples for sale were made in England. Chances
> are, a cheapened version is made in Aisa.
>
I bought these same chisels 2 years ago. At that time they were made in
England. Decent chisels for a decent price. Not in the same league as
two cherries, but for the price they are fine. Oh yeah they do need
honing just like most other chisels.
Probably as good as what advice I can get at the local Rockler.
"Gene T" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:%[email protected]...
> The price may be cheaper at Costco but can you get woodworking advice
there?
> Gene
> "Greg Ostrom" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:a%[email protected]...
> > While wandering through Costco I found a set of 6 Blue Marples with a
> > wooden
> > mallet for $30. This seems to be a great price compared to Woodcraft.
As
> > far as I can tell they are identical to those I bought at Woodcraft.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
> "J" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>Ever been to an outlet store?
>>This is common knowledge.
>>
>>-j
>
>
> It is fairly common with some clothing lines. Not all hardware is like
> that.
> It is also common knowledge that most of it is BS rumors. A local hardware
> store told me the same about a particular brand of tools. I asked how she
> knew. She replied, "the salesman told me". Give me specific part
> differences and I may believe you. I know that sometimes a model number
> will have a different suffix. That could be suspect. HP makes printers with
> different numbers and suffixes. The big store like Staples will have
> bundled software that others do not have. I asked an HP engineer when I was
> at a packing plant about the differences. He told me aside from the bundled
> software, the main difference was the screened on part number. Electronics
> were the same.
>
> Costco and others, pride themselves on giving you the best merchandise at a
> good price, not a cheap version.
>
>
The different suffixes with HP printers are how they are
sold, commercial or home use. The printers are the same and
as you pointed out, the difference is the bundled software
which is mainly useless and just an introduction to other hp
items. It's not included in the commercial package because
the commercial buyer wouldn't use any of it anyway. This
subject comes up all the time and HP tells exactly what the
deal is.
You see a good deal at Costco, you better buy it right then
because you might never see it again. Bought a really cool
400W inverter with a digital readout of voltage in and out,
and power, and include audio and visual alarms and auto
shutdown for low voltage for $25. I bought it the first
week they had it and by the third week they were out and
have never seen it since.
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 16:27:45 GMT, the inscrutable Lew Hodgett
<[email protected]> spake:
>Doug Winterburn writes:
>
>> I think I miss the pickled herring the most <sigh>
>
>What? No herring in sour cream?
>
>That's almost heresy<G>.
>
>Must not be any Scandinavians in the area.
>
>Lew
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On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 11:31:53 -0800, Abe <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 13:21:55 -0600, WD <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On 21 Jan 2005 10:35:46 -0800, "Jerry" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>Be careful. The mass merchants negotiate a price with manufacturers
>>>and in many cases, the manufacturers will make a low cost version to
>>>sell through the mass merchandisers to meet their pricing requirements.
>>>
>>>
>>>Meaning -- it may not be an apples to apples comparison.
>>Really, how do you know?
>>
>
> -----------
> I know this to be true in the case of Price Pfister faucets. Go to a
> big box store and open a faucet. You'll see a plastic waste tube,
> plastic ball cock, and cheap stick-on PF label. Look at the same
> faucet at a real plumbing store and everything is solid brass, and the
> cheap decal is actually a very nice enameled badge.
HD will happily special order that piece for a bit more than the
plumbing shop. But yes, they stock cheap.
Note that they sell the bronze replacement cartridge for about 3/4 the
cost of the faucet.
Toyota (iirc) has a fuel filter that nearly always needs replacement
just off warrenty, then is good for the life of the engine. The OE part
is plastic, the replacement is stainless steel and costs $400.
My mechanic (I don't own a Toyota) is convinced they used the plastic
part so they could match the price point of similar competing models,
and planned to make up the difference on the aftermarket part.
On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:22:20 -0500, Eddie Munster
<[email protected]> wrote:
Like peak hp, max hp or ultra hp?
Can you believe my Shop Vac is 6 Peak HP and seven times more powerful than your
BS. :-)
>When I went to buy a bandsaw at the borg, I thought it was a 3/4 hp. It
>was only 1/2. Same model elsewhere was 3/4. Yes the borg was somewhat
>cheaper, by 60 clams or so but hey, the same model number except for
>some very small letter at the end. The only reason the borg was cheaper
>was because I was price matching it to a delta bandsaw at a normal
>store. When I saw the difference, I told them to forget it. Really it
>didn't qualify for the price match because they were technically
>different model numbers. But even under the scrutiny of pricematching,
>that little letter went un-noticed. Yes, they were selling it (the 1/2)
>for more that the 3/4 in a normal store. I tweaked to it while waiting
>to pay. There have been articles about this also.
>
>WD. Wakeup!
>
>
>
>WD wrote:
>> On 21 Jan 2005 10:35:46 -0800, "Jerry" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Really, how do you know?
>>
>>
>>>Be careful. The mass merchants negotiate a price with manufacturers
>>>and in many cases, the manufacturers will make a low cost version to
>>>sell through the mass merchandizers to meet their pricing requirements.
>>>
>>>
>>>Meaning -- it may not be an apples to apples comparison.
>>>
>>>
>>>Greg Ostrom wrote:
>>>
>>>>While wandering through Costco I found a set of 6 Blue Marples with a
>>>
>>>wooden
>>>
>>>>mallet for $30. This seems to be a great price compared to
>>>
>>>Woodcraft. As
>>>
>>>>far as I can tell they are identical to those I bought at Woodcraft.
>>
>>
>>
"J" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Ever been to an outlet store?
> This is common knowledge.
>
> -j
It is fairly common with some clothing lines. Not all hardware is like
that.
It is also common knowledge that most of it is BS rumors. A local hardware
store told me the same about a particular brand of tools. I asked how she
knew. She replied, "the salesman told me". Give me specific part
differences and I may believe you. I know that sometimes a model number
will have a different suffix. That could be suspect. HP makes printers with
different numbers and suffixes. The big store like Staples will have
bundled software that others do not have. I asked an HP engineer when I was
at a packing plant about the differences. He told me aside from the bundled
software, the main difference was the screened on part number. Electronics
were the same.
Costco and others, pride themselves on giving you the best merchandise at a
good price, not a cheap version.
Doug Winterburn <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 03:46:13 +0000, George E. Cawthon wrote:
>
>> You see a good deal at Costco, you better buy it right then because
>> you might never see it again. Bought a really cool 400W inverter
>> with a digital readout of voltage in and out,
>> and power, and include audio and visual alarms and auto
>> shutdown for low voltage for $25. I bought it the first week they
>> had it and by the third week they were out and have never seen it
>> since.
>
> Yup, they have dropped a buch of stuff I used to buy and liked -
> pickled aspargus,
Saw the pickeled asparagus on the shelf on Wednesday - Portland, OR.
Charles Krug wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 11:31:53 -0800, Abe <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 13:21:55 -0600, WD <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On 21 Jan 2005 10:35:46 -0800, "Jerry" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Be careful. The mass merchants negotiate a price with manufacturers
>>>>and in many cases, the manufacturers will make a low cost version to
>>>>sell through the mass merchandisers to meet their pricing requirements.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Meaning -- it may not be an apples to apples comparison.
>>>
>>>Really, how do you know?
>>>
>>
>>-----------
>>I know this to be true in the case of Price Pfister faucets. Go to a
>>big box store and open a faucet. You'll see a plastic waste tube,
>>plastic ball cock, and cheap stick-on PF label. Look at the same
>>faucet at a real plumbing store and everything is solid brass, and the
>>cheap decal is actually a very nice enameled badge.
>
>
> HD will happily special order that piece for a bit more than the
> plumbing shop. But yes, they stock cheap.
>
> Note that they sell the bronze replacement cartridge for about 3/4 the
> cost of the faucet.
>
> Toyota (iirc) has a fuel filter that nearly always needs replacement
> just off warrenty, then is good for the life of the engine. The OE part
> is plastic, the replacement is stainless steel and costs $400.
>
> My mechanic (I don't own a Toyota) is convinced they used the plastic
> part so they could match the price point of similar competing models,
> and planned to make up the difference on the aftermarket part.
>
Moen does much the same but the box is marked "metal" or
"plastic." Confused me a bit since the faucet in the boxes
were identical, then I saw that one had a plastic drain and
one had a chrome coated brass drain. In Moen's case the
metal drain separately cost about 1/2 the price of the
faucet, but the faucet with the metal marked only 120
percent of the plastic one. However, these are two
different models clearly marked and with different model
numbers and not what the op is saying. BTW, real plumbing
shops carry both models, but I'm sure if you ask a plumber
to replace a faucet they will choose the more expensive model.
$400 for a fuel filter is an obviously rip off. Hell they
could have changed it 40 time with a $10 filter. I wager
that the $400 filter is not 40 times better than the $10
filter.
Ever been to an outlet store?
This is common knowledge.
-j
"WD" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 21 Jan 2005 10:35:46 -0800, "Jerry" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Really, how do you know?
>
> >Be careful. The mass merchants negotiate a price with manufacturers
> >and in many cases, the manufacturers will make a low cost version to
> >sell through the mass merchandizers to meet their pricing requirements.
> >
> >
> >Meaning -- it may not be an apples to apples comparison.
> >
> >
> >Greg Ostrom wrote:
> >> While wandering through Costco I found a set of 6 Blue Marples with a
> >wooden
> >> mallet for $30. This seems to be a great price compared to
> >Woodcraft. As
> >> far as I can tell they are identical to those I bought at Woodcraft.
>
>
"Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "J" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Ever been to an outlet store?
> > This is common knowledge.
> >
> > -j
>
> It is fairly common with some clothing lines. Not all hardware is like
> that.
I didn't intend to imply that this was always the case. Merely pointing out
that it is sometimes the case. Caveat emptor and all that.
-j
"Greg Ostrom" <[email protected]> wrote:
>While wandering through Costco I found a set of 6 Blue Marples with a wooden
>mallet for $30. This seems to be a great price compared to Woodcraft. As
>far as I can tell they are identical to those I bought at Woodcraft.
To answer some questions here:
I just saw them at a Costco in the Atlanta area.
$30, regularly $40 (both less 2 or 3 cents<g>)
Says "Sheffield England" right on the back of the blade. I don't
remember if it said "Hand Forged", as my 5-year-old set does.
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Jerry wrote:
> Be careful. The mass merchants negotiate a price with manufacturers
> and in many cases, the manufacturers will make a low cost version to
> sell through the mass merchandizers to meet their pricing requirements.
>
>
> Meaning -- it may not be an apples to apples comparison.
>
>
> Greg Ostrom wrote:
>
>>While wandering through Costco I found a set of 6 Blue Marples with a
>
> wooden
>
>>mallet for $30. This seems to be a great price compared to
>
> Woodcraft. As
>
>>far as I can tell they are identical to those I bought at Woodcraft.
>
>
That could be true if they are different models. I didn't
notice what the box said as I wasn't interested (in Boise).
But if it says Blue Marples or however they designate them
and it says the same as Woodcraft, then they are the same.
I've heard the BS about a brand name model being a more
cheaply made machine in lower priced stores. Not true,
never been true, mindlessly stupid blather. No manufacture
puts their name on a model and makes a good or excellent one
and a poor copy. That's a quick way to degrade the
manufactures name and lose sales. If an item is truly
cheaper (quality), more economical version it will have a
different model designation not the same name as a model
built to a higher standard.
Doug Winterburn wrote:
> On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 03:46:13 +0000, George E. Cawthon wrote:
>
>
>>You see a good deal at Costco, you better buy it right then because you
>>might never see it again. Bought a really cool 400W inverter with a
>>digital readout of voltage in and out,
>> and power, and include audio and visual alarms and auto
>>shutdown for low voltage for $25. I bought it the first week they had it
>>and by the third week they were out and have never seen it since.
>
>
> Yup, they have dropped a buch of stuff I used to buy and liked - pickled
> aspargus, refridged dill pickle spears, the reloads for my HP laser and
> inkjet printers, water softner salt, creamed and plain pickled herring, ...
>
> I think I miss the pickled herring the most <sigh>
>
> -Doug
>
>
Hmm. Must be a local store thing. Mine has all sorts of
inkjet cartridge, lots of watersoftner salt. No tootsie
rolls, I'm still waiting for them to bring those back
<[email protected]> wrote in message
> I was at Costco today and there were the Marples. 6 chisels (1/8th to
> 1") in a bubble pack with a little wooden mallet. The package and each
> chisel says Made in Sheffeld England and the package states that they
> are Blue Chip chisels. I guess that doesn't mean the same steel was
> used as in all other Blue Chips or anything. Price for the set was $29
> something. Now I have to make a new Chisel case.
Hell, at that price, and if you hate sharpening as much as I do, you could
use them once, then pass 'em out to family members and neighbors as screw
drivers, lid openers, and pry bars so they'll leave your good ones alone..
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><[email protected]> wrote in message
>> I was at Costco today and there were the Marples. 6 chisels (1/8th to
>> 1") in a bubble pack with a little wooden mallet. The package and each
>> chisel says Made in Sheffeld England and the package states that they
>> are Blue Chip chisels. I guess that doesn't mean the same steel was
>> used as in all other Blue Chips or anything. Price for the set was $29
>> something. Now I have to make a new Chisel case.
>
>Hell, at that price, and if you hate sharpening as much as I do, you could
>use them once, then pass 'em out to family members and neighbors as screw
>drivers, lid openers, and pry bars so they'll leave your good ones alone..
Hell, these will BE my good ones. Now I can open paint cans with my scary sharp
Stanleys.
Dave Hall
David Hall wrote in
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>><[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> I was at Costco today and there were the Marples. 6 chisels (1/8th
>>> to 1") in a bubble pack with a little wooden mallet. The package and
>>> each chisel says Made in Sheffeld England and the package states
>>> that they are Blue Chip chisels. I guess that doesn't mean the same
>>> steel was used as in all other Blue Chips or anything. Price for the
>>> set was $29 something. Now I have to make a new Chisel case.
>>
>>Hell, at that price, and if you hate sharpening as much as I do, you
>>could use them once, then pass 'em out to family members and neighbors
>>as screw drivers, lid openers, and pry bars so they'll leave your good
>>ones alone..
>
> Hell, these will BE my good ones. Now I can open paint cans with my
> scary sharp Stanleys.
>
> Dave Hall
I had a set of those, but they wouldn't hold an edge. I just bought an
old set of nine Stanley 750's about a month ago and got rid of the Blue
Chips on eBay. I hate sharpening too, and it seemed like that was all I was
doing when using the Marples chisels. The Stanleys are in a different
league altogether.
--
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Thunderbird Hardwoods
Llano, TX
mhburton at tbird-hardwoods dot com
On 24 Jan 2005 04:19:01 GMT, [email protected] (David Hall) wrote:
|><[email protected]> wrote in message
|>> I was at Costco today and there were the Marples. 6 chisels (1/8th to
|>> 1") in a bubble pack with a little wooden mallet. The package and each
|>> chisel says Made in Sheffeld England and the package states that they
|>> are Blue Chip chisels. I guess that doesn't mean the same steel was
|>> used as in all other Blue Chips or anything. Price for the set was $29
|>> something. Now I have to make a new Chisel case.
|>
|>Hell, at that price, and if you hate sharpening as much as I do, you could
|>use them once, then pass 'em out to family members and neighbors as screw
|>drivers, lid openers, and pry bars so they'll leave your good ones alone..
|
|Hell, these will BE my good ones. Now I can open paint cans with my scary sharp
|Stanleys.
Tried Costco in Tucson today. The man (and his computer) says
"Discontinued", which translated says, "All gone and no more to
follow."
In article <[email protected]>,
"George E. Cawthon" <[email protected]> wrote:
...
>
> I've heard the BS about a brand name model being a more
> cheaply made machine in lower priced stores. Not true,
> never been true, mindlessly stupid blather. No manufacture
> puts their name on a model and makes a good or excellent one
> and a poor copy. That's a quick way to degrade the
> manufactures name and lose sales. If an item is truly
> cheaper (quality), more economical version it will have a
> different model designation not the same name as a model
> built to a higher standard.
In the case of CostCo, their standard markup is 14% (they will tell
you that if you ask). This tells you their cost fairly accurately.
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When I went to buy a bandsaw at the borg, I thought it was a 3/4 hp. It
was only 1/2. Same model elsewhere was 3/4. Yes the borg was somewhat
cheaper, by 60 clams or so but hey, the same model number except for
some very small letter at the end. The only reason the borg was cheaper
was because I was price matching it to a delta bandsaw at a normal
store. When I saw the difference, I told them to forget it. Really it
didn't qualify for the price match because they were technically
different model numbers. But even under the scrutiny of pricematching,
that little letter went un-noticed. Yes, they were selling it (the 1/2)
for more that the 3/4 in a normal store. I tweaked to it while waiting
to pay. There have been articles about this also.
WD. Wakeup!
WD wrote:
> On 21 Jan 2005 10:35:46 -0800, "Jerry" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Really, how do you know?
>
>
>>Be careful. The mass merchants negotiate a price with manufacturers
>>and in many cases, the manufacturers will make a low cost version to
>>sell through the mass merchandizers to meet their pricing requirements.
>>
>>
>>Meaning -- it may not be an apples to apples comparison.
>>
>>
>>Greg Ostrom wrote:
>>
>>>While wandering through Costco I found a set of 6 Blue Marples with a
>>
>>wooden
>>
>>>mallet for $30. This seems to be a great price compared to
>>
>>Woodcraft. As
>>
>>>far as I can tell they are identical to those I bought at Woodcraft.
>
>
>
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 03:46:13 +0000, George E. Cawthon wrote:
> You see a good deal at Costco, you better buy it right then because you
> might never see it again. Bought a really cool 400W inverter with a
> digital readout of voltage in and out,
> and power, and include audio and visual alarms and auto
> shutdown for low voltage for $25. I bought it the first week they had it
> and by the third week they were out and have never seen it since.
Yup, they have dropped a buch of stuff I used to buy and liked - pickled
aspargus, refridged dill pickle spears, the reloads for my HP laser and
inkjet printers, water softner salt, creamed and plain pickled herring, ...
I think I miss the pickled herring the most <sigh>
-Doug
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On 21 Jan 2005 10:35:46 -0800, "Jerry" <[email protected]> wrote:
Really, how do you know?
>Be careful. The mass merchants negotiate a price with manufacturers
>and in many cases, the manufacturers will make a low cost version to
>sell through the mass merchandizers to meet their pricing requirements.
>
>
>Meaning -- it may not be an apples to apples comparison.
>
>
>Greg Ostrom wrote:
>> While wandering through Costco I found a set of 6 Blue Marples with a
>wooden
>> mallet for $30. This seems to be a great price compared to
>Woodcraft. As
>> far as I can tell they are identical to those I bought at Woodcraft.
On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 13:21:55 -0600, WD <[email protected]> wrote:
>On 21 Jan 2005 10:35:46 -0800, "Jerry" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Be careful. The mass merchants negotiate a price with manufacturers
>>and in many cases, the manufacturers will make a low cost version to
>>sell through the mass merchandisers to meet their pricing requirements.
>>
>>
>>Meaning -- it may not be an apples to apples comparison.
>Really, how do you know?
>
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I know this to be true in the case of Price Pfister faucets. Go to a
big box store and open a faucet. You'll see a plastic waste tube,
plastic ball cock, and cheap stick-on PF label. Look at the same
faucet at a real plumbing store and everything is solid brass, and the
cheap decal is actually a very nice enameled badge.