On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 22:21:59 +0000, LRod <[email protected]> wrote:
Try reading what the guy wrote on his site:
"Penultimate because I'm sure one day I'll improve upon it"
He knows, so that's what he called it.
JOAT just quotes the title.
So cope, OK?
--
"We need to make a sacrifice to the gods, find me a young virgin... oh, and bring something to kill"
Tim Douglass
http://www.DouglassClan.com
On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 00:25:15 -0500, [email protected] (J T)
wrote:
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LRod
Master Woodbutcher and seasoned termite
Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999
http://www.woodbutcher.net
Proud participant of rec.woodworking since February, 1997
Uh, 'scuse me, but didn't it occur to anyone that the OP might have
been making a point with the "correct" use of penultimate? There will
never be an "ultimate" plan for a router table, thus to label his as
the penultimate will always assure it a place in the pantheon of router
table designs, e.g., the next to last design.
Mutt.
Wed, Jan 25, 2006, 10:58am (EST-3) [email protected] (Pig) doth sayeth:
<snip> There will never be an "ultimate" plan for a router table, <snip>
Disagree. For what it does, my present router table can't be
improved on. You could make one larger - but then it wouldn't fit the
available space. Could make one with different top material - but it
would only be more expensive, with no improvement on work. And, so on.
See? The function would be unchanged, and it wouldn't perform any
better than it does right now. So, for my use, I "did" have the
"ultimate" router table. That's why I haven't changed it bfore now.
However, because my needs are changing, my present "ultimate" router
table, has now morphed into my "penultimate" router table. But, once
the new one is finished, it will be my "ultimate" router table. Until,
and if, my needs require yet another router table, then it will become
my "penultimate" table, and the next one will become my "ultimate"
router table. Simple, eh? See my other thread about deciding on the
design for my new router table.
JOAT
You only need two tools: WD-40, and duct tape. If it doesn't move and
it should, use WD-40. If it moves and shouldn't, use the tape.
J T wrote:
> Wed, Jan 25, 2006, 11:35am (EST-3) [email protected] (bremen68)
> doth admit his complicity:
>
>>>I'm with Mutt......He's leaving himself
>>>some room for his next design to be
>>>just that little bit better..
>
>
> If he's only going to make it, "just that little bit better", both
> of you need to go stand in the corner for awhile.
>
>
>>>Thus (please insert triumphant horn
>>>salute here) it will become the
>>>penultimate table. ;-)
>
>
> Best we can do is a whopee cushion.
>
>
>
> JOAT
> You only need two tools: WD-40, and duct tape. If it doesn't move and
> it should, use WD-40. If it moves and shouldn't, use the tape.
>
Better is the enemy of good enough.
j4
Wed, Jan 25, 2006, 11:35am (EST-3) [email protected] (bremen68)
doth admit his complicity:
>>I'm with Mutt......He's leaving himself
>>some room for his next design to be
>>just that little bit better..
If he's only going to make it, "just that little bit better", both
of you need to go stand in the corner for awhile.
>>Thus (please insert triumphant horn
>>salute here) it will become the
>>penultimate table. ;-)
Best we can do is a whopee cushion.
JOAT
You only need two tools: WD-40, and duct tape. If it doesn't move and
it should, use WD-40. If it moves and shouldn't, use the tape.
The LRod entity posted thusly:
>So you knew what it meant all along but left the incorrect
>interpretation in the subject line over your signature to be
>emblazoned in the archives and apparent ignorance inextricably linked
>to you forever.
>
>Sure.
There is no indication whatsoever that the fellow in question used the
term incorrectly. He will have used it correctly if at some future
time, he decides to design one, and only one more router table. If he
does not design another, or if he designs more than one more, he will
be in error of fact only, which still does not indicate incorrect
usage of the term.
About the only thing you can criticize regarding his use of the term
is that he used "the" instead of "my", possibly indicating that one
and only one more router table will ever be designed by anyone.
Actually there are subtle variations at play here. Ultimate has a
usage which is much more qualitative than sequential. The "ultimate"
saw (for example) would be the saw which is so wonderful and perfect it
is incapable of being improved. Penultimate, otoh, simply refers to
the next to last of a sequence or set. I think Mr. Router Table was
trying to imply that his table is the best possible and thought that
since penultimate has more syllables, it must be better than ultimate.
All this knowledge and I STILL can't make decent dove tails!
FoggyTown
Tue, Jan 24, 2006, 11:18pm (EST-1) [email protected] (Oleg=A0Lego)
doth burble:
There is no indication <snip>
My, my. We now have a grammer cop amongst us. You keep LRod
straigh now, you hear? LMAO
JOAT
You only need two tools: WD-40, and duct tape. If it doesn't move and
it should, use WD-40. If it moves and shouldn't, use the tape.
In article <[email protected]>,
"foggytown" <[email protected]> wrote:
> I think Mr. Router Table was
> trying to imply that his table is the best possible and thought that
> since penultimate has more syllables, it must be better than ultimate.
Why would you think that? If you even looked at the web site, you'd see
that he said that he called it the penultimate "because I'm sure one day
I'll improve upon it".
--
Hank Gillette
"Believe me, if there's any amendment to the Constitution that employees of
the National Security Agency are familiar with, it's the Fourth.." -- General
Michael Hayden, former NSA director, after denying that the 4th
Amendment requires probable cause.
The J T entity posted thusly:
>Tue, Jan 24, 2006, 11:18pm (EST-1) [email protected] (Oleg Lego)
>doth burble:
>There is no indication <snip>
>
> My, my. We now have a grammer cop amongst us. You keep LRod
>straigh now, you hear? LMAO
No 'grammer' cop here. I leave that to Dr. Whom.
Tue, Jan 24, 2006, 10:21pm (EST+5) From: [email protected] (LRod) did
post, changing the subject::
Uh, you "do" know that I don't name these things, don't you? I
just post 'em.
Unless "he" doesn't know what the word means, apparently he plans
on making another one.
JOAT
You only need two tools: WD-40, and duct tape. If it doesn't move and
it should, use WD-40. If it moves and shouldn't, use the tape.
In article <[email protected]>,
LRod <[email protected]> wrote:
> So you knew what it meant all along but left the incorrect
> interpretation in the subject line over your signature to be
> emblazoned in the archives and apparent ignorance inextricably linked
> to you forever.
>
> Sure.
So your position is that someone shouldn't use a perfectly good word
correctly because some psuedo-intellectual might come upon it and assume
that it was used incorrectly?
Got it.
--
Hank Gillette
"Believe me, if there's any amendment to the Constitution that employees of
the National Security Agency are familiar with, it's the Fourth.." -- General
Michael Hayden, former NSA director, after denying that the 4th
Amendment requires probable cause.
On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 17:50:16 -0500, [email protected] (J T)
wrote:
>Tue, Jan 24, 2006, 10:21pm (EST+5) From: [email protected] (LRod) did
>post, changing the subject::
>
> Uh, you "do" know that I don't name these things, don't you? I
>just post 'em.
>
> Unless "he" doesn't know what the word means, apparently he plans
>on making another one.
So you knew what it meant all along but left the incorrect
interpretation in the subject line over your signature to be
emblazoned in the archives and apparent ignorance inextricably linked
to you forever.
Sure.
--
LRod
Master Woodbutcher and seasoned termite
Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999
http://www.woodbutcher.net
Proud participant of rec.woodworking since February, 1997
Wed, Jan 25, 2006, 2:04am (EST+5) [email protected] (LRod) doth query
thusly:
So you knew what it meant all along but left the incorrect
interpretation in the subject line over your signature to be emblazoned
in the archives and apparent ignorance inextricably linked to you
forever.
If it mattered, I'd care. It don't, and I doesn't.
JOAT
You only need two tools: WD-40, and duct tape. If it doesn't move and
it should, use WD-40. If it moves and shouldn't, use the tape.