Od

"Olebiker"

28/03/2005 11:47 AM

Norm's dovetail jig

In the episode this past weekend in which Norm was building a kithen
island I noticed he was using what appeared to be a Porter-Cable
dovetail jig. I assume that his use of that jig was merely to please
one of the program's underwriters.

Dick Durbin
Tallahassee


This topic has 17 replies

Od

"Olebiker"

in reply to "Olebiker" on 28/03/2005 11:47 AM

29/03/2005 4:13 AM

>If you do assume that, you haven't been watching Norm for very long,
>and you've never visited the Norm section of my website where all of
>that is explained.

Actually, I've been watching it from the first episode. I have to
admit that I am impressed with Norm's willingness to use tools not
provided by one of the underwriters. e.g. Lamello biscuit jointer and
the laser guided miter saw that he used years after it had been
discontinued.

I used to do a lot of bass fishing. Bass pros are notorious for not
letting anyone see them using a lure or piece of tackle not provided by
a sponsor. I met the late Billy Westmoreland on a lake in Kentucky
several years ago. I had just watched him catch a couple of big
smallmouth and, when he passed us, I asked him what he was catching
them on. He idled over to us, gave us a couple of lures called a
Silver Buddy, and took a few minutes to explain how to fish them. He
told us that it was the best smallmouth lure he had ever used but,
since the company was small and could not afford to sponsor him, he did
not use them on TV.

>Aren't you the senator from Illinois? What are you doing in my state
>capitol?

Looking for a place to buy hardwood. Do you have any in your part of
Florida. I have to drive 1 1/2 hours to find anythin.
Back before folks got this Internet thing figured out, I used to get a
lot of E-mail destined for the Senator.

Dick

Od

"Olebiker"

in reply to "Olebiker" on 28/03/2005 11:47 AM

29/03/2005 5:50 AM

>Via Bitnet, decnet, uucp or what?

Not that far back. When we non-technical types got started using the
Internet in the mid-90s, folks just did a search on Dick Durbin, got my
E-mail address, and assumed that it was the Senator.

Dick

RC

Richard Clements

in reply to "Olebiker" on 28/03/2005 11:47 AM

30/03/2005 10:04 AM

Olebiker wrote:

> In the episode this past weekend in which Norm was building a kithen
> island I noticed he was using what appeared to be a Porter-Cable
> dovetail jig. I assume that his use of that jig was merely to please
> one of the program's underwriters.
>
> Dick Durbin
> Tallahassee

I wish some one would under right me, I would love a shop of Delta and PC
tools,

Od

"Olebiker"

in reply to "Olebiker" on 28/03/2005 11:47 AM

31/03/2005 9:23 AM

Gitcha some plaid shirts, a leather tool apron, lose the ability to say
"saw", and learn how to show people that woodworking is not some sort
of black art that you need to apprentice half your life to learn.....

Od

"Olebiker"

in reply to "Olebiker" on 28/03/2005 11:47 AM

31/03/2005 4:30 PM

While driving through Perry, FL yesterday I found a sawmill that had a
lot of sinker cypress and a little bit of hardwoods. I bought one
black walnut board to play with and will go back next Saturday to sort
through his stacks to see if he has enough for me to make the small
table I am planning to build. That is, if I can ever get ahead of
LOML's honey-do list.

Dick

RC

Richard Clements

in reply to "Olebiker" on 28/03/2005 11:47 AM

31/03/2005 6:05 PM

Olebiker wrote:

> Gitcha some plaid shirts, a leather tool apron, lose the ability to say
> "saw", and learn how to show people that woodworking is not some sort
> of black art that you need to apprentice half your life to learn.....

ya but I was looking for an easy way

BM

"B Man"

in reply to "Olebiker" on 28/03/2005 11:47 AM

30/03/2005 7:58 PM

To a degree I agree. However, when Norm pulls out that crappy little Delta
joiner instead of using his DJ20 and runs a 6 foot long board through it,
it's to please the sponsors. You can always tell when the sponsors get on
him, because he usually showcases all their crappy tools in 1 or 2 shows and
then goes back to what he wants to use.


Brian


"Lee Gordon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> <<In the episode this past weekend in which Norm was building a kithen
> island I noticed he was using what appeared to be a Porter-Cable
> dovetail jig. I assume that his use of that jig was merely to please
> one of the program's underwriters.>>
>
> Norm generally does use the tolls supplied by the show's underwriter but I
> doubt that the practice is mandatory. For example, while the PC 557 is a
> very nice biscuit joiner, Norm and Tom Silva both seem to prefer the
> Lamello.
>
> Lee
>
>
> --
> To e-mail, replace "bucketofspam" with "dleegordon"
>
>

pc

"patrick conroy"

in reply to "Olebiker" on 28/03/2005 11:47 AM

29/03/2005 12:36 AM


"Olebiker" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
>
> In the episode this past weekend in which Norm was building a kithen
> island I noticed he was using what appeared to be a Porter-Cable
> dovetail jig. I assume that his use of that jig was merely to please
> one of the program's underwriters.

I've seen Nahm use the Omnijig and the Leigh. LRod's seen him use a few
others including the Katie (http://www.woodbutcher.net/jigs.htm)

I, like you, don't know what's in his head - but I personally would have
reached a different conclusion. I think he is open and willing to give a new
product a try - but if he really believes it inferior, he doesn't use it -
sponsor or not. The Lamello, pops into my mind as an example.

Was it one of the new PC Dovetail Jigs?
The new Omni has movable pins ala the D4.

RC

"Rick Cox"

in reply to "Olebiker" on 28/03/2005 11:47 AM

28/03/2005 8:22 PM

I dont have any problem with that,
My question is why do they have commercials on during NASCAR Races??
It appears to me that is a constant commerical slide show to the left...


"Olebiker" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In the episode this past weekend in which Norm was building a kithen
> island I noticed he was using what appeared to be a Porter-Cable
> dovetail jig. I assume that his use of that jig was merely to please
> one of the program's underwriters.
>
> Dick Durbin
> Tallahassee
>

Jj

"Jim"

in reply to "Olebiker" on 28/03/2005 11:47 AM

28/03/2005 9:57 PM


"Olebiker" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In the episode this past weekend in which Norm was building a kithen
> island I noticed he was using what appeared to be a Porter-Cable
> dovetail jig. I assume that his use of that jig was merely to please
> one of the program's underwriters.
Along with everything else in his shop. I did see a Dewalt right angle
drill there one (P-C doesn't make one?).
He had better please the underwriters if he expects to keep doing the show.
Jim

LG

"Lee Gordon"

in reply to "Olebiker" on 28/03/2005 11:47 AM

28/03/2005 6:29 PM

<<In the episode this past weekend in which Norm was building a kithen
island I noticed he was using what appeared to be a Porter-Cable
dovetail jig. I assume that his use of that jig was merely to please
one of the program's underwriters.>>

Norm generally does use the tolls supplied by the show's underwriter but I
doubt that the practice is mandatory. For example, while the PC 557 is a
very nice biscuit joiner, Norm and Tom Silva both seem to prefer the
Lamello.

Lee


--
To e-mail, replace "bucketofspam" with "dleegordon"

BM

"B Man"

in reply to "Olebiker" on 28/03/2005 11:47 AM

30/03/2005 8:01 PM

I was talking to my local Delta / PC rep (now the Delta/PC/Dewalt rep) about
a year ago. He said that they figure Norm is almost single handedly
responsible for the sudden HUGE market demand for laser-anything
attachments - all from his simple mitre saw from like 15 years ago. One of
the most commonly asked questions (until recently) to Norm was "where can I
get a laser attachment for my mitre saw?"

Interesting the way that all turned around.


Brian

"Olebiker" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> >If you do assume that, you haven't been watching Norm for very long,
>>and you've never visited the Norm section of my website where all of
>>that is explained.
>
> Actually, I've been watching it from the first episode. I have to
> admit that I am impressed with Norm's willingness to use tools not
> provided by one of the underwriters. e.g. Lamello biscuit jointer and
> the laser guided miter saw that he used years after it had been
> discontinued.
>
> I used to do a lot of bass fishing. Bass pros are notorious for not
> letting anyone see them using a lure or piece of tackle not provided by
> a sponsor. I met the late Billy Westmoreland on a lake in Kentucky
> several years ago. I had just watched him catch a couple of big
> smallmouth and, when he passed us, I asked him what he was catching
> them on. He idled over to us, gave us a couple of lures called a
> Silver Buddy, and took a few minutes to explain how to fish them. He
> told us that it was the best smallmouth lure he had ever used but,
> since the company was small and could not afford to sponsor him, he did
> not use them on TV.
>
>>Aren't you the senator from Illinois? What are you doing in my state
>>capitol?
>
> Looking for a place to buy hardwood. Do you have any in your part of
> Florida. I have to drive 1 1/2 hours to find anythin.
> Back before folks got this Internet thing figured out, I used to get a
> lot of E-mail destined for the Senator.
>
> Dick
>

LL

LRod

in reply to "Olebiker" on 28/03/2005 11:47 AM

29/03/2005 1:47 AM

On 28 Mar 2005 11:47:34 -0800, "Olebiker" <[email protected]> wrote:

>In the episode this past weekend in which Norm was building a kithen
>island I noticed he was using what appeared to be a Porter-Cable
>dovetail jig. I assume that his use of that jig was merely to please
>one of the program's underwriters.

If you do assume that, you haven't been watching Norm for very long,
and you've never visited the Norm section of my website where all of
that is explained.

>Dick Durbin
>Tallahassee

Aren't you the senator from Illinois? What are you doing in my state
capitol?

--
LRod

Master Woodbutcher and seasoned termite

Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999

http://www.woodbutcher.net

Proud participant of rec.woodworking since February, 1997

LL

LRod

in reply to "Olebiker" on 28/03/2005 11:47 AM

01/04/2005 3:38 AM

On 31 Mar 2005 16:30:49 -0800, "Olebiker" <[email protected]> wrote:

>While driving through Perry, FL yesterday I found a sawmill that had a
>lot of sinker cypress and a little bit of hardwoods. I bought one
>black walnut board to play with and will go back next Saturday to sort
>through his stacks to see if he has enough for me to make the small
>table I am planning to build. That is, if I can ever get ahead of
>LOML's honey-do list.

I hope this doesn't get lost in the noise...

I was reminded of this post from almost a year ago (19 April '04) From
Gary Greenburg. It might be of use to you:

:Hi all,

:I picked up some QS Magnolia & camphor this weekend from
:a fellow who cuts lumber as part of his business (Tree service).
:He had a bunch of QS red gum,
:and a stack of QS red oak & white oak.
:I think he's asking $2.50/BF for QS oak.
:The camphor was $2.50/BF

:If you live near Gainesville, FL you may want to call him:
: 352-481-6264 Willy

:Also, they have LOTS of huge chunks of wood turners would like.

:I have no gain to be made from his business.

:Happy shavings,
:Gary


--
LRod

Master Woodbutcher and seasoned termite

Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999

http://www.woodbutcher.net

Proud participant of rec.woodworking since February, 1997

LL

LRod

in reply to "Olebiker" on 28/03/2005 11:47 AM

29/03/2005 2:37 PM

On 29 Mar 2005 04:13:26 -0800, "Olebiker" <[email protected]> wrote:

>>If you do assume that, you haven't been watching Norm for very long,
>>and you've never visited the Norm section of my website where all of
>>that is explained.
>
>Actually, I've been watching it from the first episode. I have to
>admit that I am impressed with Norm's willingness to use tools not
>provided by one of the underwriters. e.g. Lamello biscuit jointer and
>the laser guided miter saw that he used years after it had been
>discontinued.

Ha, ha. The laser guided miter saw was by Porter-Cable. The new one is
a Delta.

On my website I have a Hall of Fame of tools that Norm has used more
than 50 times (out of 207 episodes). There are 23 tools on it (out of
more than 230 used), and ten of them are from manufacturers other than
the underwriters. They include Bosch, Makita, Bessey (three times),
Senco, Star, Tru-Grip, and the Lamello

>Looking for a place to buy hardwood. Do you have any in your part of
>Florida. I have to drive 1 1/2 hours to find anythin.

None of my sources would do you any good, since they're over here on
the east coast. Try http://www.woodfinder.com It's not absolutely
inclusive, because I think it's like the Yellow Pages, but it may have
something.

Also, there's a fellow on WoodCentral named Jim Reed that lives in
TLH. He's only been there about a year, so may not have discovered all
the good places, but you might try coming over there and pinging him.

Maybe you could give Woodmizer a call and see who's in your area.
That's a service they provide, both for their customers and to get
recommendations to potential new customers. I had a guy stop by my
house looking at some tools I had for sale and he has a Woodmizer mill
not very far from where I live. He told me that within a 40 or 50 mile
radiius of Ormond Beach there were perhaps 25 band mills. Might be a
few in your area.


--
LRod

Master Woodbutcher and seasoned termite

Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999

http://www.woodbutcher.net

Proud participant of rec.woodworking since February, 1997

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to "Olebiker" on 28/03/2005 11:47 AM

29/03/2005 1:12 AM


"Olebiker" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In the episode this past weekend in which Norm was building a kithen
> island I noticed he was using what appeared to be a Porter-Cable
> dovetail jig. I assume that his use of that jig was merely to please
> one of the program's underwriters.


I'm betting he used that jig because he needed to make DT joints.

JH

Juergen Hannappel

in reply to "Olebiker" on 28/03/2005 11:47 AM

29/03/2005 2:20 PM

"Olebiker" <[email protected]> writes:


[...]

> Back before folks got this Internet thing figured out, I used to get a
> lot of E-mail destined for the Senator.

Via Bitnet, decnet, uucp or what?

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