Need to buy a long (50-100 ft) air hose. All I've ever used are the
heavy rubber type. Interested in maybe trying the newer polyurethane
or other, but looking for recomendations from you all.
Cold weather use isn't a big deal for me. Not that it doesn't get
cold here in Cleveburg, but I'm not outside fussing with the air hose
when it is.
I do want something that uncoils easily, lays flat and doesn't coil
around your feet all the time, and coils back up easily. And with a
long hose, lightweight would be a plus too.
Reviews on amazon are the usual mixed bag...best ever...worst ever...
I won't be giving it full time heavy use, so extreme durability really
isn't a requirement either.
I think 1/4 inch is fine, won't be driving sanders or sprayers or
impact wrenches, just typical nailers and staplers.
Don't mind spending a bit to get something that won't annoy me for the
rest of my life.
TIA,
Paul F.
On Fri, 4 Feb 2011 11:23:32 -0600, "Leon" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
>"Paul Franklin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> Need to buy a long (50-100 ft) air hose. All I've ever used are the
>> heavy rubber type. Interested in maybe trying the newer polyurethane
>> or other, but looking for recomendations from you all.
>>
>> Cold weather use isn't a big deal for me. Not that it doesn't get
>> cold here in Cleveburg, but I'm not outside fussing with the air hose
>> when it is.
>>
>> I do want something that uncoils easily, lays flat and doesn't coil
>> around your feet all the time, and coils back up easily. And with a
>> long hose, lightweight would be a plus too.
>>
>> Reviews on amazon are the usual mixed bag...best ever...worst ever...
>>
>> I won't be giving it full time heavy use, so extreme durability really
>> isn't a requirement either.
>>
>> I think 1/4 inch is fine, won't be driving sanders or sprayers or
>> impact wrenches, just typical nailers and staplers.
>>
>> Don't mind spending a bit to get something that won't annoy me for the
>> rest of my life.
>>
>> TIA,
>>
>> Paul F.
>
>I have a 50' rubber and a 100' poly. Both are 1/4"
>
>They both work fine in "warm weather". I have built several fences with a
>framing nail gun and the 150' together work just fine and long as you are
>not doing any rapid fire shooting, a nail every second is fine.
>
>Once the temps get cooler the poly hose is a fight to get straightend out
>and to wind up on it's reel. I mostly use my rubber hose in my shop. I
>would not even consider using the poly unless I have a wide open space to
>open it up.
>
>
Thanks all, lots of good suggestions. I like the idea of 2 heavy
rubber 50 footers, with a shorter length of lighter/more flexible
stuff on the end. Gives a lot of options.
Lew, I think the lighthouse finally thawed, and the lake's frozen over
now. We had some freezing rain a couple days ago, but it ended up not
being as bad as predicted; at least here. Canton and Stark county got
nailed; still a lot of folks without power down there.
Never heard of Ursem; I'll check them out for sure.
I hardly ever see the snap-on trucks around these days. Hate to see
them go. But I imagine it's tough for them to compete, even with the
quality they offer.
Thanks again all!
Paul F.
"Paul Franklin" wrote:
> Need to buy a long (50-100 ft) air hose. All I've ever used are the
> heavy rubber type. Interested in maybe trying the newer
> polyurethane
> or other, but looking for recomendations from you all.
>
> Cold weather use isn't a big deal for me. Not that it doesn't get
> cold here in Cleveburg, but I'm not outside fussing with the air
> hose
> when it is.
>
> I do want something that uncoils easily, lays flat and doesn't coil
> around your feet all the time, and coils back up easily. And with a
> long hose, lightweight would be a plus too.
>
> Reviews on amazon are the usual mixed bag...best ever...worst
> ever...
>
> I won't be giving it full time heavy use, so extreme durability
> really
> isn't a requirement either.
>
> I think 1/4 inch is fine, won't be driving sanders or sprayers or
> impact wrenches, just typical nailers and staplers.
>
> Don't mind spending a bit to get something that won't annoy me for
> the
> rest of my life.
---------------------------------------
The first issue you need to resolve is pressure drop.
1/4" & 3/8" hoses have lots of pressure drop if any significant
footage is involved.
100 ft is a bunch by my way of thinking.
As a result, my approach is as follows:
2 PCs, 1/2" x 50 ft black rubber hose.
Gives you 100 ft of hose that is probably stiffer than a bull's pecker
in fly time, but NBD since it's not going to move around much..
You are trying to cover footage with minimum pressure drop.
You are able to get about 100 ft from the compressor site at minimum
cost.
SFWIW, About 4-5 years ago, I got some GoodYear 1/2" black rubber hose
from Harber Freight for about $25/50 ft length.
Now if the time for convenience.
A 3/8" x 50 ft of quality flex hose or coil hose provides an
additional 40 ft -50 ft, stays out of your way and gets the job done.
I forgot what I used but it was NOT that cheap PVC from H/F or
HomeDepot.
Robatoy likes Tundra and he's 100 miles north of you.
Sounds like a winner for lengths of 50 ft max.
Maybe only 15 ft if it's a coil hose will do the job.
The point is you addressed two issues, performance and cost.
BTW, is light house still wearing it's ice coat?
http://tinyurl.com/2flfw5d
Have fun.
Lew
OOPS!!!
Robatoy likes Tundra and he's 100 miles north of you.
Not true, he likes SnapOn.
Good stuff but they sure are PROUD of their stuff.
Check F&W Ursem in Lakewood.
They definitely can help you if you are willing to go COD.
The old man started business about 1933.
Lew
----------------------------
"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Paul Franklin" wrote:
>
>> Need to buy a long (50-100 ft) air hose. All I've ever used are
>> the
>> heavy rubber type. Interested in maybe trying the newer
>> polyurethane
>> or other, but looking for recomendations from you all.
>>
>> Cold weather use isn't a big deal for me. Not that it doesn't get
>> cold here in Cleveburg, but I'm not outside fussing with the air
>> hose
>> when it is.
>>
>> I do want something that uncoils easily, lays flat and doesn't coil
>> around your feet all the time, and coils back up easily. And with
>> a
>> long hose, lightweight would be a plus too.
>>
>> Reviews on amazon are the usual mixed bag...best ever...worst
>> ever...
>>
>> I won't be giving it full time heavy use, so extreme durability
>> really
>> isn't a requirement either.
>>
>> I think 1/4 inch is fine, won't be driving sanders or sprayers or
>> impact wrenches, just typical nailers and staplers.
>>
>> Don't mind spending a bit to get something that won't annoy me for
>> the
>> rest of my life.
> ---------------------------------------
> The first issue you need to resolve is pressure drop.
>
> 1/4" & 3/8" hoses have lots of pressure drop if any significant
> footage is involved.
>
> 100 ft is a bunch by my way of thinking.
>
> As a result, my approach is as follows:
>
> 2 PCs, 1/2" x 50 ft black rubber hose.
>
> Gives you 100 ft of hose that is probably stiffer than a bull's
> pecker in fly time, but NBD since it's not going to move around
> much..
>
> You are trying to cover footage with minimum pressure drop.
>
> You are able to get about 100 ft from the compressor site at minimum
> cost.
>
> SFWIW, About 4-5 years ago, I got some GoodYear 1/2" black rubber
> hose from Harber Freight for about $25/50 ft length.
>
> Now if the time for convenience.
>
> A 3/8" x 50 ft of quality flex hose or coil hose provides an
> additional 40 ft -50 ft, stays out of your way and gets the job
> done.
>
> I forgot what I used but it was NOT that cheap PVC from H/F or
> HomeDepot.
>
> Robatoy likes Tundra and he's 100 miles north of you.
>
> Sounds like a winner for lengths of 50 ft max.
>
> Maybe only 15 ft if it's a coil hose will do the job.
>
> The point is you addressed two issues, performance and cost.
>
> BTW, is light house still wearing it's ice coat?
>
> http://tinyurl.com/2flfw5d
>
> Have fun.
>
>
> Lew
>
>
>
"Paul Franklin" wrote:
> Never heard of Ursem; I'll check them out for sure.
-----------------------------------------
Looks like the grand kids didn't continue the business.
Ursem was a mfg rep that specialized in hydraulic and pnuematic
componets.
Hansen couplings, Norgren regulators, etc.
BTW, this was the 1/2" hose I used.
http://tinyurl.com/4wcpb2z
Have fun.
BTW, what part of Cleve?
Spent 25 years in Middleburg Hts.
Lew
"Paul Franklin" wrote:
> There's listings for Ursem Co. in Akron and Lakewood under pneumatic
> equipment and supplies, so maybe they are still around. No web site
> I
> could find though. I'll give them a call on Monday.
----------------------------
These days it's got to be one of the grandkids running the place.
I knew Bill, the founder, and Dick, his son who would be pushing 80 if
he is still
around.
I've been away from that market since the late '60s so info is a
little rusty..
---------------------------------
> Live in Richfield now, not far from the site of the old Coluseum, if
> you were here when that was around.
----------------------------------
That monstrosity, glad when it got razed.
Always liked Richfield, was still a little "horsy" when I was there.
-------------------------------------
> My Mom lived in Middleburg for
> quite a few years, near Bagley and Pearl.
--------------------------------
The center of the Middleburg universe.<G>
I lived between city hall and Midpark HS.
I-71 hadn't been built yet when I moved to Middleburg.
--------------------------------------
> Where do you hail from these days?
-------------------------------------
These days I'm in Los Angeles where the sun is shining and
approaching 70F today.
What is it, 4-6 weeks till the buzzards return to Hinckley announcing
the arrival of spring in Ohio?
---------------------------------------
BTW, if you get those H/F, 1/2 hoses, equip them with 3/8-1/4 reducer
couplings and standard 1/4 quick connect couplings.
Easier to find in stock and less costly than 3/8 couplings.
Have fun.
Lew
On Feb 3, 7:18=A0pm, Paul Franklin <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Need to buy a long (50-100 ft) air hose. =A0All I've ever used are the
> heavy rubber type. =A0Interested in maybe trying the newer polyurethane
> or other, but looking for recomendations from you all.
>
> Cold weather use isn't a big deal for me. =A0Not that it doesn't get
> cold here in Cleveburg, but I'm not outside fussing with the air hose
> when it is.
>
> I do want something that uncoils easily, lays flat and doesn't coil
> around your feet all the time, and coils back up easily. =A0And with a
> long hose, lightweight would be a plus too.
>
> Reviews on amazon are the usual mixed bag...best ever...worst ever...
>
> I won't be giving it full time heavy use, so extreme durability really
> isn't a requirement either.
>
> I think 1/4 inch is fine, won't be driving sanders or sprayers or
> impact wrenches, just typical nailers and staplers.
>
> Don't mind spending a bit to get something that won't annoy me for the
> rest of my life.
>
> TIA,
>
> Paul F.
I have both the poly and the rubber.
The poly hose lies down flat and straight till I put the air to it, at
that point, it curls up like a lawnmower hitting a Slinky=99. Then I
have to straighten it all out again. Then, when you least expect it,
the damned thing forms a perfect loop in front of your feet, and you
don't see it because you're carrying an open box of sorted screws.
I have a 50 ft blue rubber hose I got from the Snap-On truck decades
ago, it is my favourite.
I use a heavy 1/2" PVC type that is clumsy but has a large capacity and
sturdy.
I also use a light 1/4" rubber hose for the last 25' so I do not fight with
the heavy unit all the time, at the tool.
This gives me length options .
I also own a synthetic rubbery type hose that is very flexible but do not
recommend it. It acts like a coiled spring when it gets a twist and has been
caught up in my feet many times. Very soft and seems very nice when I bought
it but the tangle problem gets dangerous.
The natural rubber one on the last few feet seems to be a good compromise
for pressure drop and toughness.
"Paul Franklin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Need to buy a long (50-100 ft) air hose. All I've ever used are the
heavy rubber type. Interested in maybe trying the newer polyurethane
or other, but looking for recomendations from you all.
Cold weather use isn't a big deal for me. Not that it doesn't get
cold here in Cleveburg, but I'm not outside fussing with the air hose
when it is.
I do want something that uncoils easily, lays flat and doesn't coil
around your feet all the time, and coils back up easily. And with a
long hose, lightweight would be a plus too.
Reviews on amazon are the usual mixed bag...best ever...worst ever...
I won't be giving it full time heavy use, so extreme durability really
isn't a requirement either.
I think 1/4 inch is fine, won't be driving sanders or sprayers or
impact wrenches, just typical nailers and staplers.
Don't mind spending a bit to get something that won't annoy me for the
rest of my life.
TIA,
Paul F.
"Paul Franklin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Need to buy a long (50-100 ft) air hose. All I've ever used are the
> heavy rubber type. Interested in maybe trying the newer polyurethane
> or other, but looking for recomendations from you all.
>
> Cold weather use isn't a big deal for me. Not that it doesn't get
> cold here in Cleveburg, but I'm not outside fussing with the air hose
> when it is.
>
> I do want something that uncoils easily, lays flat and doesn't coil
> around your feet all the time, and coils back up easily. And with a
> long hose, lightweight would be a plus too.
>
> Reviews on amazon are the usual mixed bag...best ever...worst ever...
>
> I won't be giving it full time heavy use, so extreme durability really
> isn't a requirement either.
>
> I think 1/4 inch is fine, won't be driving sanders or sprayers or
> impact wrenches, just typical nailers and staplers.
>
> Don't mind spending a bit to get something that won't annoy me for the
> rest of my life.
>
> TIA,
>
> Paul F.
Just buy brand name stuff. A lot has to do with how you stow it. That is
where it can develop kinks. I have mine on a tire rim, folded in a one over
one under lay so that it does not come off spiraled. The reels are nice,
too. I got a 50 footer and a 100 footer at yard sales CHEAP, and I hardly
ever pull out the 100. I have quick connects on everything.
Steve
http://cabgbypasssurgery.com
"Paul Franklin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Need to buy a long (50-100 ft) air hose. All I've ever used are the
> heavy rubber type. Interested in maybe trying the newer polyurethane
> or other, but looking for recomendations from you all.
>
> Cold weather use isn't a big deal for me. Not that it doesn't get
> cold here in Cleveburg, but I'm not outside fussing with the air hose
> when it is.
>
> I do want something that uncoils easily, lays flat and doesn't coil
> around your feet all the time, and coils back up easily. And with a
> long hose, lightweight would be a plus too.
>
> Reviews on amazon are the usual mixed bag...best ever...worst ever...
>
> I won't be giving it full time heavy use, so extreme durability really
> isn't a requirement either.
>
> I think 1/4 inch is fine, won't be driving sanders or sprayers or
> impact wrenches, just typical nailers and staplers.
>
> Don't mind spending a bit to get something that won't annoy me for the
> rest of my life.
>
> TIA,
>
> Paul F.
I found that automotive rubber fuel line hose works just peachy for
what you describe. It takes 120PSI indefinitely (yeah, I get lazy
or forget to uncouple it after I'm done). All the plastic hoses I've
tried get stiff below about 60F.
Art
On Fri, 4 Feb 2011 19:56:50 -0800, "Lew Hodgett"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>"Paul Franklin" wrote:
>
>> Never heard of Ursem; I'll check them out for sure.
>-----------------------------------------
>Looks like the grand kids didn't continue the business.
>
>Ursem was a mfg rep that specialized in hydraulic and pnuematic
>componets.
>
>Hansen couplings, Norgren regulators, etc.
>
>BTW, this was the 1/2" hose I used.
>
>http://tinyurl.com/4wcpb2z
>
>Have fun.
>
>BTW, what part of Cleve?
>
>Spent 25 years in Middleburg Hts.
>
>Lew
>
>
>
Lew,
There's listings for Ursem Co. in Akron and Lakewood under pneumatic
equipment and supplies, so maybe they are still around. No web site I
could find though. I'll give them a call on Monday.
Live in Richfield now, not far from the site of the old Coluseum, if
you were here when that was around. My Mom lived in Middleburg for
quite a few years, near Bagley and Pearl.
Where do you hail from these days?
Paul
On Thu, 03 Feb 2011 19:18:54 -0500, Paul Franklin
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Need to buy a long (50-100 ft) air hose. All I've ever used are the
>heavy rubber type. Interested in maybe trying the newer polyurethane
>or other, but looking for recomendations from you all.
>
>Cold weather use isn't a big deal for me. Not that it doesn't get
>cold here in Cleveburg, but I'm not outside fussing with the air hose
>when it is.
>
>I do want something that uncoils easily, lays flat and doesn't coil
>around your feet all the time, and coils back up easily. And with a
>long hose, lightweight would be a plus too.
>
>Reviews on amazon are the usual mixed bag...best ever...worst ever...
>
>I won't be giving it full time heavy use, so extreme durability really
>isn't a requirement either.
>
>I think 1/4 inch is fine, won't be driving sanders or sprayers or
>impact wrenches, just typical nailers and staplers.
>
>Don't mind spending a bit to get something that won't annoy me for the
>rest of my life.
>
>TIA,
>
>Paul F.
Here in Canada my recommendation would be the "tundra" air hose from
Princess Auto. It is PVC.
You can buy it from JM Ellsworth in Milwaukee in the states
On Thu, 03 Feb 2011 20:47:35 -0500, [email protected] wrote:
>On Thu, 03 Feb 2011 19:18:54 -0500, Paul Franklin
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Need to buy a long (50-100 ft) air hose. All I've ever used are the
>>heavy rubber type. Interested in maybe trying the newer polyurethane
>>or other, but looking for recomendations from you all.
>>
>>Cold weather use isn't a big deal for me. Not that it doesn't get
>>cold here in Cleveburg, but I'm not outside fussing with the air hose
>>when it is.
>>
>>I do want something that uncoils easily, lays flat and doesn't coil
>>around your feet all the time, and coils back up easily. And with a
>>long hose, lightweight would be a plus too.
>>
>>Reviews on amazon are the usual mixed bag...best ever...worst ever...
>>
>>I won't be giving it full time heavy use, so extreme durability really
>>isn't a requirement either.
>>
>>I think 1/4 inch is fine, won't be driving sanders or sprayers or
>>impact wrenches, just typical nailers and staplers.
>>
>>Don't mind spending a bit to get something that won't annoy me for the
>>rest of my life.
>>
>>TIA,
>>
>>Paul F.
> Here in Canada my recommendation would be the "tundra" air hose from
>Princess Auto. It is PVC.
>You can buy it from JM Ellsworth in Milwaukee in the states
PVC, really? I have some of the Chiwanese PVC hoses and they're stiff
as hell under 60F temps.
Paul:
The black rubber hose from HF is horrid. It reeks of chemicals and
rubber, and it's not very pliable.
I bought a couple 50' lengths of poly hose (transparent blue 1/4" from
and eBay vendor) for my staple guns and it works well. It's less stiff
than the PVC, by far. It's lightweight, too, so I love it for that.
But it won't run an air chisel or other high-air-use tool for long.
I'm very glad I bought it and it has definite uses, both in my shop
and in the field on my air pig. http://tinyurl.com/6acns4l
Polyprothane, whatever that is.
The old (30 years ago) Snap-On hose felt like microsuede and was
wonderfully pliable at any temp, they didn't kink, and they cost an
arm and a leg to buy. I wonder if they're still made.
I was disappointed when I checked out the Goodyear Pliovic hose. It
felt much like the stiff PVC hose from HF. The Goodyear rubber hoses
might still be good and tough, though.
I'd suggest going to local body and auto repair shops to check out the
hoses they use now, Paul.
--
Woe be to him that reads but one book.
-- George Herbert
"Paul Franklin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Need to buy a long (50-100 ft) air hose. All I've ever used are the
> heavy rubber type. Interested in maybe trying the newer polyurethane
> or other, but looking for recomendations from you all.
>
> Cold weather use isn't a big deal for me. Not that it doesn't get
> cold here in Cleveburg, but I'm not outside fussing with the air hose
> when it is.
>
> I do want something that uncoils easily, lays flat and doesn't coil
> around your feet all the time, and coils back up easily. And with a
> long hose, lightweight would be a plus too.
>
> Reviews on amazon are the usual mixed bag...best ever...worst ever...
>
> I won't be giving it full time heavy use, so extreme durability really
> isn't a requirement either.
>
> I think 1/4 inch is fine, won't be driving sanders or sprayers or
> impact wrenches, just typical nailers and staplers.
>
> Don't mind spending a bit to get something that won't annoy me for the
> rest of my life.
>
> TIA,
>
> Paul F.
I have a 50' rubber and a 100' poly. Both are 1/4"
They both work fine in "warm weather". I have built several fences with a
framing nail gun and the 150' together work just fine and long as you are
not doing any rapid fire shooting, a nail every second is fine.
Once the temps get cooler the poly hose is a fight to get straightend out
and to wind up on it's reel. I mostly use my rubber hose in my shop. I
would not even consider using the poly unless I have a wide open space to
open it up.