Okay, guys, I just got my Delta X5 14" band saw (28-475X) assembled and
running, and I'm not entirely pleased. I haven't used the 14" X5
before, so I don't know if my expectations are justified or
unreasonable. I took my time assembling it (pulleys aligned, etc.),
and I haven't added any aftermarket goodies yet.
To me it feels like the saw vibrates too much. I have it sitting on
the concrete slab of my shop floor. The lower wheel / driven pulley
didn't appear to be out of balance with the belt off (i.e. I could spin
the wheel and it would stop at a different point each time). At first
I thought it might be the included "Platinum Pro" blade (it flutters
enough to buzz against the rear blade guard every 3-4 seconds unless
you ratchet the tension way up), but taking it off doesn't seem to make
an appreciable difference. It definitely doesn't pass the Nickel Test
- starting, stopping, or running; the longest I could get it to stand
was maybe three seconds, and that was rare. It has some fit & finish
problems, but those aren't as worrisome as the vibration, particularly
since I am planning to add a riser block.
So, do any of you guys have a 28-475X that can pass the Nickel Test?
Is it just wishful thinking on my part to believe that it should? What
is the normal amount of vibration for the 28-475X (or the Powermatic
14" for that matter)?
I've got the pulleys lined up pretty well, and the saw came with a
notched V-belt. Would switching to a link belt help at all?
TIA for the replies.
Chop
Leon: I think I understand your procedure, but with my luck moving
that motor around while it's running would get me a trip to the ER to
explain why my fingers aren't pointing the right direction. Is there
another way to isolate the lower wheel as a source of vibration. Maybe
just run the motor without the belt attached and see if the vibration
goes away? Either way, I'm loathe to take that motor loose after
having gotten the pulleys aligned just right.
Edwin: All four corners of the stand are sitting on the concrete.
There is a slight amount of play when I try to rock the frame back and
forth, but that appears to be the sheet metal of the stand flexing a
little. I'll see if I can get something thin under the corners just to
be sure.
Barry: Thanks for letting me know my expectations are justified. I
don't mind going to Delta now if I can't get the vibration fixed. To
answer your questions, I can't get it to pass the Nickel Test with the
blade off and the belt on (i.e. just the motor driving the lower
wheel). I assembled the saw on the concrete slab to make sure the
bottom of the base was flat and to make was stable as possible to test
for vibration. I have the belt tensioned so that it deflects about
1/4" when I push in on it halfway between the pulleys (per the manual).
I could probably cannibalize enough link belt off of my drill press to
see if switching to the link belt would significantly reduce the
vibration.
Thanks for the input, guys. Keep it coming.
Chop
This isn't bay area Dave is it
Mike
On 21 Feb 2005 19:47:15 -0800, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Okay, guys, I just got my Delta X5 14" band saw (28-475X) assembled and
>running, and I'm not entirely pleased. I haven't used the 14" X5
>before, so I don't know if my expectations are justified or
>unreasonable. I took my time assembling it (pulleys aligned, etc.),
>and I haven't added any aftermarket goodies yet.
>
>To me it feels like the saw vibrates too much. I have it sitting on
>the concrete slab of my shop floor. The lower wheel / driven pulley
>didn't appear to be out of balance with the belt off (i.e. I could spin
>the wheel and it would stop at a different point each time). At first
>I thought it might be the included "Platinum Pro" blade (it flutters
>enough to buzz against the rear blade guard every 3-4 seconds unless
>you ratchet the tension way up), but taking it off doesn't seem to make
>an appreciable difference. It definitely doesn't pass the Nickel Test
>- starting, stopping, or running; the longest I could get it to stand
>was maybe three seconds, and that was rare. It has some fit & finish
>problems, but those aren't as worrisome as the vibration, particularly
>since I am planning to add a riser block.
>
>So, do any of you guys have a 28-475X that can pass the Nickel Test?
>Is it just wishful thinking on my part to believe that it should? What
>is the normal amount of vibration for the 28-475X (or the Powermatic
>14" for that matter)?
>
>I've got the pulleys lined up pretty well, and the saw came with a
>notched V-belt. Would switching to a link belt help at all?
>
>TIA for the replies.
>
>Chop
"George E. Cawthon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:ClaTd.71004$Th1.19755@bgtnsc04-> No question that some sayings are
common or
> rather, several people use them, in some specific
> regions. I guess the definition of common may be
> a part of the problem. Common in my mind means
> used by many people in various regions, more like
> "national" common. Yep we have one of those
> stupidities and it is "barrow pit" meaning the
> drainage ditch along side a road as in, "he drove
> into the barrow pit." But it is pretty regional
> and tho heard from time to time is not really
> common. Thank God, because anyone with a mind
> know that a pit is a different shape from a ditch
> and the ditch has nothing to do with barrow but is
> simply dug for drainage.
>
> Damn, I am glad that I don't live in a place where
> "sweat like a pig" and "smooth as a sewing
> machine" are common sayings. That might just be
> the tip of the iceberg of nonsense that the people
> in those regions believe. How many of those
> people believe in a flat earth? BTW, never could
> figure that, since a look over the prairie or at
> the ocean horizon "should" dispel that nonsense
> even for a cave man.
Of course, that proves only that you can see as far in any direction. Look
to the earth's shadow on the moon, as the Greeks did, and you will see that
it must be a _sphere_.
Oh yes, it's sweat like a pig and piss like a racehorse.
"firstjois" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> :
> : it's like "shit eating grin". very evocative, perhaps BECAUSE it's
> : illogical.
>
> I guess you don't have dogs.
>
> Josie
>
Isn't _that_ the truth!
"GregP" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 00:32:48 GMT, "George E. Cawthon"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> >Piss like a racehorse is common. Sweat like a pig
> >just indicates a persons ignorance. How about
> >sweat like a bee? Piss like a tree? Quiet as a
> >tornado? Humble as a bear? Fast as a sloth?
>
> I don't think that "pig" is meant to be taken literally.
I believe the phrase refers to slag falling off a "pig" of metal.
On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 08:35:31 -0800, David <[email protected]> wrote:
>I completely fixed the vibration in my Delta BS by replacing it with a
>Powermatic 14. Seriously. Delta couldn't fix the problem, so I got a
>full refund. The Powermatic is as smooth as the proverbial sewing
>machine. And more features to boot.
>
>Dave
right on cue....
[email protected] wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 01:38:44 GMT, "George E. Cawthon"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>People say all sorts of things. Some people say
>>the same thing over and over and it becomes common
>>to them. But it is not common unless a lot of
>>people use the expression.
>>
>>I've heard smooth as (a lot of things including a
>>baby's butt), but I have never heard smooth as a
>>sewing machine. Course I haven't heard everything
>>but I don't lead a sheltered life. I even heard
>>sweat like a pig the other day which is not
>>common, doesn't make sense, and should be sweat
>>like a race horse. Smooth as a sewing machine
>>doesn't make sense either; ask anyone who uses a
>>sewing machine. It is not a common expression, no
>>matter what you think. It is a Stupid expression,
>>however.
>
>
> these may be regional, but "sweat like a pig" (illogical as it is) is
> a pretty common saying around here, as is the comparison of a smooth
> running mechanism to a sewing machine....
No question that some sayings are common or
rather, several people use them, in some specific
regions. I guess the definition of common may be
a part of the problem. Common in my mind means
used by many people in various regions, more like
"national" common. Yep we have one of those
stupidities and it is "barrow pit" meaning the
drainage ditch along side a road as in, "he drove
into the barrow pit." But it is pretty regional
and tho heard from time to time is not really
common. Thank God, because anyone with a mind
know that a pit is a different shape from a ditch
and the ditch has nothing to do with barrow but is
simply dug for drainage.
Damn, I am glad that I don't live in a place where
"sweat like a pig" and "smooth as a sewing
machine" are common sayings. That might just be
the tip of the iceberg of nonsense that the people
in those regions believe. How many of those
people believe in a flat earth? BTW, never could
figure that, since a look over the prairie or at
the ocean horizon "should" dispel that nonsense
even for a cave man.
<[email protected]> wrote in message
> Okay, guys, I just got my Delta X5 14" band saw (28-475X) assembled and
> running, and I'm not entirely pleased.
> To me it feels like the saw vibrates too much.
That problem has been noted on here before with the new Delta 14" design.
You might want to check some threads that everybody's good buddy 'Bay Area
Dave' posted on this same problem a year or so ago. Despite the source, he
did come up with a temporary solution, which may be worth Googling to see if
it would help you, and a permanent solution ... unfortunately, IIRC, trading
it in on a PowerMatic.
That said, hope you get it solved. Also check for an older "Todd Stock" post
about the changes that make the vibration problematic with this particular
"re-engineered" product.
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People say all sorts of things. Some people say
the same thing over and over and it becomes common
to them. But it is not common unless a lot of
people use the expression.
I've heard smooth as (a lot of things including a
baby's butt), but I have never heard smooth as a
sewing machine. Course I haven't heard everything
but I don't lead a sheltered life. I even heard
sweat like a pig the other day which is not
common, doesn't make sense, and should be sweat
like a race horse. Smooth as a sewing machine
doesn't make sense either; ask anyone who uses a
sewing machine. It is not a common expression, no
matter what you think. It is a Stupid expression,
however.
David wrote:
> Perhaps due to your experience you find it an "odd" expression, but it
> is a fairly common expression, none the less. Did you watch the Ellen
> Degeneres stand up routine where she mocked the expression "packed tight
> as sardines"? She made quite a case for changing that to "packed tight
> as pickles". (You had to see her routine to appreciate the humor)
>
> Dave
>
> Stephen M wrote:
>
>> "David" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>
>>> I completely fixed the vibration in my Delta BS by replacing it with a
>>> Powermatic 14. Seriously. Delta couldn't fix the problem, so I got a
>>> full refund. The Powermatic is as smooth as the proverbial sewing
>>> machine.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I find that to be an odd expression. My wife has a sewing machine
>> (Bernina)
>> that costs than my cabinet saw, and it sounds like a soft baby
>> jackhammer.
>> It doesn't make so much noise as it transmits a low-frequency thumping
>> into
>> the floor joists.
>>
>> It's a fine machine but "Smooth" is just not the word I would use to
>> describe it.
>>
>> Come to think of it maybe I'll have her "nickel-test" it.
>>
>> -Steve
>>
>>
Perhaps due to your experience you find it an "odd" expression, but it
is a fairly common expression, none the less. Did you watch the Ellen
Degeneres stand up routine where she mocked the expression "packed tight
as sardines"? She made quite a case for changing that to "packed tight
as pickles". (You had to see her routine to appreciate the humor)
Dave
Stephen M wrote:
> "David" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>I completely fixed the vibration in my Delta BS by replacing it with a
>>Powermatic 14. Seriously. Delta couldn't fix the problem, so I got a
>>full refund. The Powermatic is as smooth as the proverbial sewing
>>machine.
>
>
>
> I find that to be an odd expression. My wife has a sewing machine (Bernina)
> that costs than my cabinet saw, and it sounds like a soft baby jackhammer.
> It doesn't make so much noise as it transmits a low-frequency thumping into
> the floor joists.
>
> It's a fine machine but "Smooth" is just not the word I would use to
> describe it.
>
> Come to think of it maybe I'll have her "nickel-test" it.
>
> -Steve
>
>
I completely fixed the vibration in my Delta BS by replacing it with a
Powermatic 14. Seriously. Delta couldn't fix the problem, so I got a
full refund. The Powermatic is as smooth as the proverbial sewing
machine. And more features to boot.
Dave
[email protected] wrote:
> Okay, guys, I just got my Delta X5 14" band saw (28-475X) assembled and
> running, and I'm not entirely pleased. I haven't used the 14" X5
> before, so I don't know if my expectations are justified or
> unreasonable. I took my time assembling it (pulleys aligned, etc.),
> and I haven't added any aftermarket goodies yet.
>
> To me it feels like the saw vibrates too much. I have it sitting on
> the concrete slab of my shop floor. The lower wheel / driven pulley
> didn't appear to be out of balance with the belt off (i.e. I could spin
> the wheel and it would stop at a different point each time). At first
> I thought it might be the included "Platinum Pro" blade (it flutters
> enough to buzz against the rear blade guard every 3-4 seconds unless
> you ratchet the tension way up), but taking it off doesn't seem to make
> an appreciable difference. It definitely doesn't pass the Nickel Test
> - starting, stopping, or running; the longest I could get it to stand
> was maybe three seconds, and that was rare. It has some fit & finish
> problems, but those aren't as worrisome as the vibration, particularly
> since I am planning to add a riser block.
>
> So, do any of you guys have a 28-475X that can pass the Nickel Test?
> Is it just wishful thinking on my part to believe that it should? What
> is the normal amount of vibration for the 28-475X (or the Powermatic
> 14" for that matter)?
>
> I've got the pulleys lined up pretty well, and the saw came with a
> notched V-belt. Would switching to a link belt help at all?
>
> TIA for the replies.
>
> Chop
>
"George E. Cawthon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Yeah, that's cool. "Purrs like a sewing machine" just doesn't have the
> feel of "purrs like a kitten" does it?
>
How about, "purrs like a diesel engine at 1100 RPM" That has a nice ring to
it.
"firstjois" wrote in message
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> : it's like "shit eating grin". very evocative, perhaps BECAUSE it's
> : illogical.
>
> I guess you don't have dogs.
ROTFL ... I was thinking the same thing myself.
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George wrote:
> "George E. Cawthon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:ClaTd.71004$Th1.19755@bgtnsc04-> No question that some sayings are
> common or
>
>>rather, several people use them, in some specific
>>regions. I guess the definition of common may be
>>a part of the problem. Common in my mind means
>>used by many people in various regions, more like
>>"national" common. Yep we have one of those
>>stupidities and it is "barrow pit" meaning the
>>drainage ditch along side a road as in, "he drove
>>into the barrow pit." But it is pretty regional
>>and tho heard from time to time is not really
>>common. Thank God, because anyone with a mind
>>know that a pit is a different shape from a ditch
>>and the ditch has nothing to do with barrow but is
>>simply dug for drainage.
>>
>>Damn, I am glad that I don't live in a place where
>>"sweat like a pig" and "smooth as a sewing
>>machine" are common sayings. That might just be
>>the tip of the iceberg of nonsense that the people
>>in those regions believe. How many of those
>>people believe in a flat earth? BTW, never could
>>figure that, since a look over the prairie or at
>>the ocean horizon "should" dispel that nonsense
>>even for a cave man.
>
>
> Of course, that proves only that you can see as far in any direction.
Huh? The horizon is curved, and if you climb a
tree or a mast and watch approaching or leaving
ships, horses, etc., you can figure out that the
surface curve down from where you stand.
Look
> to the earth's shadow on the moon, as the Greeks did, and you will see that
> it must be a _sphere_.
That's good if you figure out that the shadow is
of the earth, otherwise you might think it is the
hand of god.
>
> Oh yes, it's sweat like a pig and piss like a racehorse.
>
Piss like a racehorse is common. Sweat like a pig
just indicates a persons ignorance. How about
sweat like a bee? Piss like a tree? Quiet as a
tornado? Humble as a bear? Fast as a sloth?
I give up sweat like a pig is a really good saying
because it fully describes a sweaty job. Not.
>
GregP wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 00:32:48 GMT, "George E. Cawthon"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>Piss like a racehorse is common. Sweat like a pig
>>just indicates a persons ignorance. How about
>>sweat like a bee? Piss like a tree? Quiet as a
>>tornado? Humble as a bear? Fast as a sloth?
>
>
> I don't think that "pig" is meant to be taken literally.
I think it is simply a mistake made by persons
that can't think of the correct animal.
<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Removing the blade doesn't appear to make an appreciable difference in
> the amount of vibration.
>
> Chop
>
Good, then it has to be the bottom wheel, motor, or belt. Can you loosen
the motor so that you can apply manual tension on the belt, turn on the
motor to get the saw up to speed and then release tension on the belt to see
if the bottom wheel is the problem? If the vibration goes away when the
belt is too loose to turn the bottom wheel, the belt is probably the
problem. If the belt stops but the bottom wheel continues to spin with
vibration, the bottom wheel is probably the culprit.
Here's just one for your edification, George:
http://www.epinions.com/content_26161811076
George E. Cawthon wrote:
> People say all sorts of things. Some people say the same thing over and
> over and it becomes common to them. But it is not common unless a lot
> of people use the expression.
>
> I've heard smooth as (a lot of things including a baby's butt), but I
> have never heard smooth as a sewing machine. Course I haven't heard
> everything but I don't lead a sheltered life. I even heard sweat like a
> pig the other day which is not common, doesn't make sense, and should be
> sweat like a race horse. Smooth as a sewing machine doesn't make sense
> either; ask anyone who uses a sewing machine. It is not a common
> expression, no matter what you think. It is a Stupid expression, however.
>
>
> David wrote:
>
>> Perhaps due to your experience you find it an "odd" expression, but it
>> is a fairly common expression, none the less. Did you watch the Ellen
>> Degeneres stand up routine where she mocked the expression "packed
>> tight as sardines"? She made quite a case for changing that to
>> "packed tight as pickles". (You had to see her routine to appreciate
>> the humor)
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> Stephen M wrote:
>>
>>> "David" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>>> I completely fixed the vibration in my Delta BS by replacing it with a
>>>> Powermatic 14. Seriously. Delta couldn't fix the problem, so I got a
>>>> full refund. The Powermatic is as smooth as the proverbial sewing
>>>> machine.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I find that to be an odd expression. My wife has a sewing machine
>>> (Bernina)
>>> that costs than my cabinet saw, and it sounds like a soft baby
>>> jackhammer.
>>> It doesn't make so much noise as it transmits a low-frequency
>>> thumping into
>>> the floor joists.
>>>
>>> It's a fine machine but "Smooth" is just not the word I would use to
>>> describe it.
>>>
>>> Come to think of it maybe I'll have her "nickel-test" it.
>>>
>>> -Steve
>>>
>>>
<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Leon: I think I understand your procedure, but with my luck moving
> that motor around while it's running would get me a trip to the ER to
> explain why my fingers aren't pointing the right direction. Is there
> another way to isolate the lower wheel as a source of vibration. Maybe
> just run the motor without the belt attached and see if the vibration
> goes away? Either way, I'm loathe to take that motor loose after
> having gotten the pulleys aligned just right.
I am glad you recognize that you need to be careful and I do understand your
not wanting to readjust everything. You might try removing the belt and
spinning the lower wheel by hand but you may not be able to get the rpm's up
high enough. Maybe wrap some small rope around the bottom wheel pulley and
giving it a pull like starting a old lawn mower.
<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Okay, guys, I just got my Delta X5 14" band saw (28-475X) assembled and
> running, and I'm not entirely pleased. I haven't used the 14" X5
> before, so I don't know if my expectations are justified or
> unreasonable. I took my time assembling it (pulleys aligned, etc.),
> and I haven't added any aftermarket goodies yet.
>
> To me it feels like the saw vibrates too much. I have it sitting on
> the concrete slab of my shop floor. The lower wheel / driven pulley
> didn't appear to be out of balance with the belt off (i.e. I could spin
> the wheel and it would stop at a different point each time). At first
> I thought it might be the included "Platinum Pro" blade (it flutters
> enough to buzz against the rear blade guard every 3-4 seconds unless
> you ratchet the tension way up), but taking it off doesn't seem to make
> an appreciable difference. It definitely doesn't pass the Nickel Test
> - starting, stopping, or running; the longest I could get it to stand
> was maybe three seconds, and that was rare. It has some fit & finish
> problems, but those aren't as worrisome as the vibration, particularly
> since I am planning to add a riser block.
>
> So, do any of you guys have a 28-475X that can pass the Nickel Test?
> Is it just wishful thinking on my part to believe that it should? What
> is the normal amount of vibration for the 28-475X (or the Powermatic
> 14" for that matter)?
>
> I've got the pulleys lined up pretty well, and the saw came with a
> notched V-belt. Would switching to a link belt help at all?
Have you tried running the saw without a blade? That will indicate in which
direction you need to go.
"David" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I completely fixed the vibration in my Delta BS by replacing it with a
> Powermatic 14. Seriously. Delta couldn't fix the problem, so I got a
> full refund. The Powermatic is as smooth as the proverbial sewing
> machine.
I find that to be an odd expression. My wife has a sewing machine (Bernina)
that costs than my cabinet saw, and it sounds like a soft baby jackhammer.
It doesn't make so much noise as it transmits a low-frequency thumping into
the floor joists.
It's a fine machine but "Smooth" is just not the word I would use to
describe it.
Come to think of it maybe I'll have her "nickel-test" it.
-Steve
"Bob G." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>>
>
> =============
> If it Purs like a sewing machine you can bet there is a high
> compression V8 under the hood that has solid lifters...
>
> Bob Griffiths
>
Solid, how about roller lifters.
Yeah, that's cool. "Purrs like a sewing machine"
just doesn't have the feel of "purrs like a
kitten" does it?
David wrote:
> Here's just one for your edification, George:
>
> http://www.epinions.com/content_26161811076
>
> George E. Cawthon wrote:
>
>> People say all sorts of things. Some people say the same thing over
>> and over and it becomes common to them. But it is not common unless a
>> lot of people use the expression.
>>
>> I've heard smooth as (a lot of things including a baby's butt), but I
>> have never heard smooth as a sewing machine. Course I haven't heard
>> everything but I don't lead a sheltered life. I even heard sweat like
>> a pig the other day which is not common, doesn't make sense, and
>> should be sweat like a race horse. Smooth as a sewing machine doesn't
>> make sense either; ask anyone who uses a sewing machine. It is not a
>> common expression, no matter what you think. It is a Stupid
>> expression, however.
>>
>>
>> David wrote:
>>
>>> Perhaps due to your experience you find it an "odd" expression, but
>>> it is a fairly common expression, none the less. Did you watch the
>>> Ellen Degeneres stand up routine where she mocked the expression
>>> "packed tight as sardines"? She made quite a case for changing that
>>> to "packed tight as pickles". (You had to see her routine to
>>> appreciate the humor)
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> Stephen M wrote:
>>>
>>>> "David" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>
>>>>> I completely fixed the vibration in my Delta BS by replacing it with a
>>>>> Powermatic 14. Seriously. Delta couldn't fix the problem, so I got a
>>>>> full refund. The Powermatic is as smooth as the proverbial sewing
>>>>> machine.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I find that to be an odd expression. My wife has a sewing machine
>>>> (Bernina)
>>>> that costs than my cabinet saw, and it sounds like a soft baby
>>>> jackhammer.
>>>> It doesn't make so much noise as it transmits a low-frequency
>>>> thumping into
>>>> the floor joists.
>>>>
>>>> It's a fine machine but "Smooth" is just not the word I would use to
>>>> describe it.
>>>>
>>>> Come to think of it maybe I'll have her "nickel-test" it.
>>>>
>>>> -Steve
>>>>
>>>>
Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
> "George E. Cawthon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>Yeah, that's cool. "Purrs like a sewing machine" just doesn't have the
>>feel of "purrs like a kitten" does it?
>>
>
>
> How about, "purrs like a diesel engine at 1100 RPM" That has a nice ring to
> it.
>
>
I think it stinks ;}
On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 22:19:43 -0800, Mike M
<[email protected]> wrote:
>This isn't bay area Dave is it
>Mike
I don't think so, but I'd be expecting him to chime in right about
now...
>
>
>I find that to be an odd expression. My wife has a sewing machine (Bernina)
>that costs than my cabinet saw, and it sounds like a soft baby jackhammer.
>It doesn't make so much noise as it transmits a low-frequency thumping into
>the floor joists.
>
>It's a fine machine but "Smooth" is just not the word I would use to
>describe it.
>
>Come to think of it maybe I'll have her "nickel-test" it.
>
>-Steve
>
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Lol...My wife has 4 sewing machines..and like your wife one is a
Bernina ....and that sucker cost me close to $4,000 Plus I had to
spring for a Laptop computer so she could program the damn thing...
IS her sewing machine smooth running...? damn if I know I never used
one in my life.... and with her around the house I never plan on
learning ...
However I am now in the market to replace my original 30+ year old
Bandsaw That I bought from (sears...lol) Maybe I should just raise my
budget at least up to the price I had to pay for the laptop computer
Bob Griffiths
On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 14:50:55 GMT, "Leon"
<[email protected]> wrote:
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>"Bob G." <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
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>> If it Purs like a sewing machine you can bet there is a high
>> compression V8 under the hood that has solid lifters...
>>
>> Bob Griffiths
>>
>Solid, how about roller lifters.
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No... roller lifters do not give you that tap tap tap sound....
(sewing machine sound)...... lol
Of course gear drive sounds nice to my ears also...
Bob Griffiths
<[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I have it sitting on
> the concrete slab of my shop floor.
Is it sitting firmly in place? Can you drive a wedge under any of the
corners?
On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 00:32:48 GMT, "George E. Cawthon"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I give up sweat like a pig is a really good saying
>because it fully describes a sweaty job. Not.
>
>>
it's like "shit eating grin". very evocative, perhaps BECAUSE it's
illogical.
On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 06:21:03 GMT, "George E. Cawthon"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Yeah, that's cool. "Purrs like a sewing machine"
>just doesn't have the feel of "purrs like a
>kitten" does it?
>
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If it Purs like a sewing machine you can bet there is a high
compression V8 under the hood that has solid lifters...
Bob Griffiths
<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
: On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 00:32:48 GMT, "George E. Cawthon"
: <[email protected]> wrote:
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: >I give up sweat like a pig is a really good saying
: >because it fully describes a sweaty job. Not.
: >
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: it's like "shit eating grin". very evocative, perhaps BECAUSE it's
: illogical.
I guess you don't have dogs.
Josie
On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 00:32:48 GMT, "George E. Cawthon"
<[email protected]> wrote:
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>Piss like a racehorse is common. Sweat like a pig
>just indicates a persons ignorance. How about
>sweat like a bee? Piss like a tree? Quiet as a
>tornado? Humble as a bear? Fast as a sloth?
I don't think that "pig" is meant to be taken literally.
On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 01:38:44 GMT, "George E. Cawthon"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>People say all sorts of things. Some people say
>the same thing over and over and it becomes common
>to them. But it is not common unless a lot of
>people use the expression.
>
>I've heard smooth as (a lot of things including a
>baby's butt), but I have never heard smooth as a
>sewing machine. Course I haven't heard everything
>but I don't lead a sheltered life. I even heard
>sweat like a pig the other day which is not
>common, doesn't make sense, and should be sweat
>like a race horse. Smooth as a sewing machine
>doesn't make sense either; ask anyone who uses a
>sewing machine. It is not a common expression, no
>matter what you think. It is a Stupid expression,
>however.
these may be regional, but "sweat like a pig" (illogical as it is) is
a pretty common saying around here, as is the comparison of a smooth
running mechanism to a sewing machine....
On 21 Feb 2005 19:47:15 -0800, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
wrote:
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>So, do any of you guys have a 28-475X that can pass the Nickel Test?
I do.
Will your saw pass the test with the motor driving the lower wheel and
no blade? Is the saw sitting on all four feet?
>Is it just wishful thinking on my part to believe that it should?
Not at all, expect it!
>I've got the pulleys lined up pretty well, and the saw came with a
>notched V-belt. Would switching to a link belt help at all?
How's your belt tension? You might have a stiff, new belt that could
be undertensioned and thumping around. If you get the vibration with
no blade, a link belt may help. Do you have a link belt on another
machine that you can borrow?
My last two new machines were provided with extremely stiff belts.
Even my DJ-20 took a 2-3 hours of use to smooth out. The belts seemed
like they'd out last me, but after a bit they soften up, and they will
take a set if the machine isn't used for a while.
FWIW, I run almost all blades a 1/2 step or so tighter than the scale
says. For example, I run a 1/4" blade halfway between the 1/4" and
the 3/8" mark.
Barry
Funny how different we are. I've heard that expression since I was a
little kid. You might even Google it, George. Your opinion has been
duly noted.
Dave
George E. Cawthon wrote:
> People say all sorts of things. Some people say the same thing over and
> over and it becomes common to them. But it is not common unless a lot
> of people use the expression.
>
> I've heard smooth as (a lot of things including a baby's butt), but I
> have never heard smooth as a sewing machine. Course I haven't heard
> everything but I don't lead a sheltered life. I even heard sweat like a
> pig the other day which is not common, doesn't make sense, and should be
> sweat like a race horse. Smooth as a sewing machine doesn't make sense
> either; ask anyone who uses a sewing machine. It is not a common
> expression, no matter what you think. It is a Stupid expression, however.
>
>
> David wrote:
>
>> Perhaps due to your experience you find it an "odd" expression, but it
>> is a fairly common expression, none the less. Did you watch the Ellen
>> Degeneres stand up routine where she mocked the expression "packed
>> tight as sardines"? She made quite a case for changing that to
>> "packed tight as pickles". (You had to see her routine to appreciate
>> the humor)
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> Stephen M wrote:
>>
>>> "David" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>>> I completely fixed the vibration in my Delta BS by replacing it with a
>>>> Powermatic 14. Seriously. Delta couldn't fix the problem, so I got a
>>>> full refund. The Powermatic is as smooth as the proverbial sewing
>>>> machine.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I find that to be an odd expression. My wife has a sewing machine
>>> (Bernina)
>>> that costs than my cabinet saw, and it sounds like a soft baby
>>> jackhammer.
>>> It doesn't make so much noise as it transmits a low-frequency
>>> thumping into
>>> the floor joists.
>>>
>>> It's a fine machine but "Smooth" is just not the word I would use to
>>> describe it.
>>>
>>> Come to think of it maybe I'll have her "nickel-test" it.
>>>
>>> -Steve
>>>
>>>