KK

Kevin Kokal

04/01/2005 8:42 AM

A New Year's Gloat

Late Saturday night, my wife says to me, "Oh, I forgot to tell you: John
(the next-door neighbor) called while you were out today. He said he had
a jointer for you." Jumping back a few months: John had mentioned he was
in the market for a new one, so I told him to let me know when he did,
and I would consider buying his old one. I figured that time had finally
come. Sunday morning, I give him a call and after exchanging the usual
New Year's pleasantries he tells me, to my complete astonishment, that I
can HAVE his old jointer. Free. Gratis. No charge. The bottom line: a
Delta 37-070 6" Variable Speed Bench Jointer.

There are few things in life as gratifying as having a good neighbor.

-kjk


This topic has 17 replies

DH

"Dave Hall"

in reply to Kevin Kokal on 04/01/2005 8:42 AM

04/01/2005 10:04 AM


Hank Gillette wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> "Kevin" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Free. Gratis. No charge. The bottom line: a Delta 37-070 6"
Variable
> > > Speed Bench Jointer.
> >
> > I picked on up a 37-070 from a shop going out of business a few
months ago.
> > It was brand new in the box for $100. I regret it now that I've
tried to
> > use it several times on stock longer than 24 inches. That could
have been
> > $100 towards a real jointer.
> >
>
> Nothing like a bucket of cold water on someone's gloat.
>
> The nice thing is he can still put the price he paid for the jointer
> towards a real jointer, as many times as he wants to.
>
> --
> Hank Gillette

Heck, he might even develop the skill to use the jointer effectively on
stock longer than 24" - it's not that hard ;)

Dave Hall

RS

"Roger Shoaf"

in reply to Kevin Kokal on 04/01/2005 8:42 AM

04/01/2005 10:44 PM


"Kevin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Dave Hall" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > Heck, he might even develop the skill to use the jointer effectively on
> > stock longer than 24" - it's not that hard ;)
> >
> > Dave Hall
>
> You can remove cups and twists from stock longer than 24" on a less than
24"
> in feed table?
>
>

Or he can take the board over to his neighbor that gave him the short
jointer and use the longer one.

--

Roger Shoaf

About the time I had mastered getting the toothpaste back in the tube, then
they come up with this striped stuff.

RS

"Roger Shoaf"

in reply to Kevin Kokal on 04/01/2005 8:42 AM

04/01/2005 10:49 PM


"Kevin Kokal" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Kevin in Bakersfield wrote:
> > "Kevin Kokal" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >
> >>Well perceived, Robatoy. It was definitely a dual-purpose gloat.
> >
> > I was only thinking out loud of my own regret, not trying to throw cold
> > water as it were. I may actually learn something though if Dave can
> > elaborate on his abilities with short jointers.
> >
>
> Yes, indeed! As a newbie myself, I'm all ears if people care to share
> their hints and tips.

Hey how about making a stand so you can set the jointer so the infeed table
is level with the top of your table saw? That way you can in effect have a
long infeed table.

--

Roger Shoaf

About the time I had mastered getting the toothpaste back in the tube, then
they come up with this striped stuff.

JJ

in reply to Kevin Kokal on 04/01/2005 8:42 AM

04/01/2005 6:08 PM

Tue, Jan 4, 2005, 8:42am (EST-1) [email protected] (Kevin=A0Kokal)
says:
<snip> There are few things in life as gratifying as having a good
neighbor.

Oh, I don't know. Who needs neighbors? I got my planer from a
friend I made from here. Free. He had bought a new, larger, one. I
did have to pay the shipping, but could care less about that (not a lot
less, granted). I'd still not have a planer if not for him. I am very
thankful for that, and will continue to be so.

By the way, you suck, because you've got a jointer, and I don't.

Jointer for the poor, jointer for the poor. LMAO



JOAT
EVERY THING THAT HAPPENS STAYS HAPPENED.
- Death

Pg

Patriarch

in reply to Kevin Kokal on 04/01/2005 8:42 AM

05/01/2005 8:23 AM

[email protected] (J T) wrote in news:18703-41DB21DD-507@storefull-
3151.bay.webtv.net:

> Tue, Jan 4, 2005, 8:42am (EST-1) [email protected] (Kevin Kokal)
> says:
> <snip> There are few things in life as gratifying as having a good
> neighbor.
>
> Oh, I don't know. Who needs neighbors? I got my planer from a
> friend I made from here. Free. He had bought a new, larger, one. I
> did have to pay the shipping, but could care less about that (not a lot
> less, granted). I'd still not have a planer if not for him. I am very
> thankful for that, and will continue to be so.
>
> By the way, you suck, because you've got a jointer, and I don't.
>
> Jointer for the poor, jointer for the poor. LMAO

Weren't you the same one soliciting sacrifices for the woodworking gods?

Looks like you got at least one! ;-)

Patriarch

JJ

in reply to Patriarch on 05/01/2005 8:23 AM

05/01/2005 4:35 AM

Wed, Jan 5, 2005, 8:23am (EST+5) [email protected]
(Patriarch) is sacreligious and asks:
Weren't you the same one soliciting sacrifices for the woodworking gods?
Looks like you got at least one! ;-)

When I pay the freight, the only sacrifice is on my part. Anyway,
a "proper" sacrifice for the Woodworking Gods would be a slightly used
virgin, preferably short, slightly plump, brunette, and likes to keep
house. You guys are definitely lax on "any" sacrifices, let alone a
"proper" sacrifice. Ah well, can't expect much religion from heathens.

The Woodworking Gods blessed him anyway, personal favor for me.



JOAT
EVERY THING THAT HAPPENS STAYS HAPPENED.
- Death

KK

Kevin Kokal

in reply to Kevin Kokal on 04/01/2005 8:42 AM

04/01/2005 2:05 PM

Robatoy wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> "Kevin" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>"Kevin Kokal" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>
>>> Free. Gratis. No charge. The bottom line: a Delta 37-070 6" Variable
>>>Speed Bench Jointer.
>>
>>I picked on up a 37-070 from a shop going out of business a few months ago.
>>It was brand new in the box for $100. I regret it now that I've tried to
>>use it several times on stock longer than 24 inches. That could have been
>>$100 towards a real jointer.
>>
>>Kevin in Bakersfield
>>
>>
>
>
> Geez, Kevin.. maybe he was gloating about how it feels to have a nice
> neighbour? Buy one of THOSE for a 100 bucks.

Well perceived, Robatoy. It was definitely a dual-purpose gloat.

KK

Kevin Kokal

in reply to Kevin Kokal on 04/01/2005 8:42 AM

04/01/2005 2:25 PM

Kevin in Bakersfield wrote:
> "Kevin Kokal" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>Well perceived, Robatoy. It was definitely a dual-purpose gloat.
>
> I was only thinking out loud of my own regret, not trying to throw cold
> water as it were. I may actually learn something though if Dave can
> elaborate on his abilities with short jointers.
>

Yes, indeed! As a newbie myself, I'm all ears if people care to share
their hints and tips.

Rm

"Rich"

in reply to Kevin Kokal on 04/01/2005 8:42 AM

04/01/2005 6:42 PM

Yes attach it to a straight piece of scap to begin with!


"Kevin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Dave Hall" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> Heck, he might even develop the skill to use the jointer effectively on
>> stock longer than 24" - it's not that hard ;)
>>
>> Dave Hall
>
> You can remove cups and twists from stock longer than 24" on a less than
> 24" in feed table?
>
>

Kk

"Kevin"

in reply to Kevin Kokal on 04/01/2005 8:42 AM

04/01/2005 4:21 PM


"Kevin Kokal" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Free. Gratis. No charge. The bottom line: a Delta 37-070 6" Variable
> Speed Bench Jointer.

I picked on up a 37-070 from a shop going out of business a few months ago.
It was brand new in the box for $100. I regret it now that I've tried to
use it several times on stock longer than 24 inches. That could have been
$100 towards a real jointer.

Kevin in Bakersfield

Kk

"Kevin"

in reply to Kevin Kokal on 04/01/2005 8:42 AM

04/01/2005 8:17 PM


"Kevin Kokal" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Robatoy wrote:

> Well perceived, Robatoy. It was definitely a dual-purpose gloat.

I was only thinking out loud of my own regret, not trying to throw cold
water as it were. I may actually learn something though if Dave can
elaborate on his abilities with short jointers.

Kevin in Bakersfield


Kk

"Kevin"

in reply to Kevin Kokal on 04/01/2005 8:42 AM

05/01/2005 1:35 AM


"Rich" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Yes attach it to a straight piece of scap to begin with!
>
>
> "Kevin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> "Dave Hall" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>> Heck, he might even develop the skill to use the jointer effectively on
>>> stock longer than 24" - it's not that hard ;)
>>>
>>> Dave Hall
>>
>> You can remove cups and twists from stock longer than 24" on a less than
>> 24" in feed table?

That's an interesting idea. I think the trick would be in actually
attaching cupped and/or twisted stock without temporarly straightening it,
only to have it deform as soon as you unfasten it?

I just saw an article in shop notes on a jig to remove cups and twists from
the face of boards using a planer. I'm still not sure how to apply the same
technique to the jointer.

I think a photo or drawing would be really helpful to several of us in the
little jointer club.

Kevin

Kk

"Kevin"

in reply to Kevin Kokal on 04/01/2005 8:42 AM

04/01/2005 7:27 PM


"Dave Hall" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Heck, he might even develop the skill to use the jointer effectively on
> stock longer than 24" - it's not that hard ;)
>
> Dave Hall

You can remove cups and twists from stock longer than 24" on a less than 24"
in feed table?

Rd

Robatoy

in reply to Kevin Kokal on 04/01/2005 8:42 AM

04/01/2005 2:47 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
"Kevin" <[email protected]> wrote:

> "Kevin Kokal" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Free. Gratis. No charge. The bottom line: a Delta 37-070 6" Variable
> > Speed Bench Jointer.
>
> I picked on up a 37-070 from a shop going out of business a few months ago.
> It was brand new in the box for $100. I regret it now that I've tried to
> use it several times on stock longer than 24 inches. That could have been
> $100 towards a real jointer.
>
> Kevin in Bakersfield
>
>

Geez, Kevin.. maybe he was gloating about how it feels to have a nice
neighbour? Buy one of THOSE for a 100 bucks.

HG

Hank Gillette

in reply to Kevin Kokal on 04/01/2005 8:42 AM

04/01/2005 12:44 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
"Kevin" <[email protected]> wrote:

> > Free. Gratis. No charge. The bottom line: a Delta 37-070 6" Variable
> > Speed Bench Jointer.
>
> I picked on up a 37-070 from a shop going out of business a few months ago.
> It was brand new in the box for $100. I regret it now that I've tried to
> use it several times on stock longer than 24 inches. That could have been
> $100 towards a real jointer.
>

Nothing like a bucket of cold water on someone's gloat.

The nice thing is he can still put the price he paid for the jointer
towards a real jointer, as many times as he wants to.

--
Hank Gillette

Cc

"CW"

in reply to Kevin Kokal on 04/01/2005 8:42 AM

04/01/2005 7:03 PM

Yes.

"Kevin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Dave Hall" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > Heck, he might even develop the skill to use the jointer effectively on
> > stock longer than 24" - it's not that hard ;)
> >
> > Dave Hall
>
> You can remove cups and twists from stock longer than 24" on a less than
24"
> in feed table?
>
>

Rm

"Rich"

in reply to Kevin Kokal on 04/01/2005 8:42 AM

04/01/2005 8:33 PM


"Kevin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Rich" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Yes attach it to a straight piece of scap to begin with!
>>
>>
>> "Kevin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>> "Dave Hall" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>
>>>> Heck, he might even develop the skill to use the jointer effectively on
>>>> stock longer than 24" - it's not that hard ;)
>>>>
>>>> Dave Hall
>>>
>>> You can remove cups and twists from stock longer than 24" on a less than
>>> 24" in feed table?
>
> That's an interesting idea. I think the trick would be in actually
> attaching cupped and/or twisted stock without temporarly straightening it,
> only to have it deform as soon as you unfasten it?
>
> I just saw an article in shop notes on a jig to remove cups and twists
> from the face of boards using a planer. I'm still not sure how to apply
> the same technique to the jointer.
>
> I think a photo or drawing would be really helpful to several of us in the
> little jointer club.
>
> Kevin
>
>

It's similar to what you do to run a piece of non straight stock through a
table saw. On the table saw you attach a piece of straight stock to the
board parallel to the face you want to save but opposite it, aligning it the
best you can to save as much stock, then put the straight piece against the
fence and set the width to save as much material as possible and rip. Then
remove the straight stock and adjust the fence to rip the other side
parallel and now you have straight board.

On the jointer you would lose some of this straight stock that is why I
suggested using scrap or a piece of furring stock that is straight ($.58 for
an 8' piece). Place the scrap piece just proud of the edge that you want to
set straight then run the two pieces through the jointer until you have the
cup or twist out of the piece your trying to set straight then take it over
to the table saw remove the scrap and rip it parallel to the nice fresh edge
and viola you have a parallel board on a short planer.

Good luck, Rich



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