DD

DerbyDad03

04/12/2011 2:14 PM

Need Source For 4" x 1/2" Pressure Treated Slats (Resaw?)

Greetings!

I need a bunch of slats to extend a fence around SWMBO's garden.

The short story is that I need a bunch of 6' x 4" x 1/2" rough cut
pressure treated slats. That's the actual size of each slat.

Does anybody know where I can get that size stock - for a reasonable
price? I tried a couple of local lumber yards and nobody carries
anything that thin.

The longer story is this:

The company who manufactured my existing fence appears to be out of
business. It was either "Four Guys Lumber" or "Five Guys Lumber" or
"Four Guys Fencing" or "Five Guys Fencing" or something like that - it's
been 20 or so years since I installed the fence.

When I bought the original fence from them, I ordered a bunch of extra
slats to build a matching 2' fence to put along the back of SWMBO's
garden which runs along the side of my driveway. I now need to extend
that fence another 12'.

For the current project I need about 45 2' slats. I'd like to get a
bunch of 6' or 8' slats so I can replace some broken slats on the
original fence as well as cut them down into 2' slats for the garden.

Does anybody know of a source for this material?

I suppose another option is to rip and then resaw some wider and thicker
boards, but obviously there would be a lot of waste. I'm also not sure
about the best method to resaw the boards.

I have a 10" belt driven table saw and a 10" low-end band saw. The band
will just allow 4" of stock to be resawed.

If I use the table saw, I'd have to resaw the boards "twice" since the
blade won't extend 4" above the table. How unsafe would it be to try and
resaw a bunch of 2' sections down to 1/2" using a "two pass" method?

If I wanted to use the band saw, what size blade should I use? I tried a
old 1/2" 14-TPI blade on a 3/4" PT board ripped to 4" but it's so dull
that the saw basically ground to a stop. The board was also wet, so that
may have been part of the problem.

I'm open to any and all suggestions.

Thanks!


This topic has 21 replies

JG

"John Grossbohlin"

in reply to DerbyDad03 on 04/12/2011 2:14 PM

04/12/2011 4:51 PM


"dpb" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> On 12/4/2011 1:33 PM, John Grossbohlin wrote:
> ...
>
>> Home Depot and other places carry 1x PT stock that measures 3/4" thick.
>> I'd think it would not be unreasonable to build the new sections with
>> the slightly thicker material and rearrange long slats on the old
>> fencing so that a less obvious section is done with new 1x stock.
>>
>> ....alternatively the rip/resaw route is an option though a bit of a
>> challenge with your equipment. Got any buddies with a bigger bandsaw? If
>> you could count on full penetration of the PT, staring with 6x6 stock
>> wouldn't leave much waste.
>>
>> That, or roll back time and get everything you need!
> ...
>
> Oh come on, now...here's the need for that lunchbox planer I know DD's
> been lusting for (or should have been if not :) ).

I was hinting more for a bigger bandsaw.... ;~)

Me, I need no encouragement. I am proficient at talking myself into bigger
tools... currently contemplating if I can get a 12" Crescent jointer in my
shop. The 8" DJ-20 would have to go... or I could put it in the woodshed
with the 36" bandsaw... or I can wait until someone else grabs it off Craigs
List (the smart thing).

FH

Father Haskell

in reply to DerbyDad03 on 04/12/2011 2:14 PM

05/12/2011 4:40 PM

On Dec 4, 2:14=A0pm, DerbyDad03 <[email protected]> wrote:
> Greetings!
>
> I need a bunch of slats to extend a fence around SWMBO's garden.
>
> The short story is that I need a bunch of 6' x 4" x 1/2" rough cut
> pressure treated slats. That's the actual size of each slat.
>
> Does anybody know where I can get that size stock - for a reasonable
> price? I tried a couple of local lumber yards and nobody carries
> anything that thin.
>
> The longer story is this:
>
> The company who manufactured my existing fence appears to be out of
> business. It was either "Four Guys Lumber" or "Five Guys Lumber" or
> "Four Guys Fencing" or "Five Guys Fencing" or something like that - it's
> been 20 or so years since I installed the fence.
>
> When I bought the original fence from them, I ordered a bunch of extra
> slats to build a matching 2' fence to put along the back of SWMBO's
> garden which runs along the side of my driveway. I now need to extend
> that fence another 12'.
>
> For the current project I need about 45 2' slats. I'd like to get a
> bunch of 6' or 8' slats so I can replace some broken slats on the
> original fence as well as cut them down into 2' slats for the garden.
>
> Does anybody know of a source for this material?
>
> I suppose another option is to rip and then resaw some wider and thicker
> boards, but obviously there would be a lot of waste. I'm also not sure
> about the best method to resaw the boards.
>
> I have a 10" belt driven table saw and a 10" low-end band saw. The band
> will just allow 4" of stock to be resawed.
>
> If I use the table saw, I'd have to resaw the boards "twice" since the
> blade won't extend 4" above the table. How unsafe would it be to try and
> resaw a bunch of 2' sections down to 1/2" using a "two pass" method?
>
> If I wanted to use the band saw, what size blade should I use? I tried a
> old 1/2" 14-TPI blade on a 3/4" PT board ripped to 4" but it's so dull
> that the saw basically ground to a stop. The board was also wet, so that
> may have been part of the problem.
>
> I'm open to any and all suggestions.
>
> Thanks!

Buy a fence panel and take it apart with a cat's paw.

Dt

DerbyDad03

in reply to DerbyDad03 on 04/12/2011 2:14 PM

05/12/2011 9:05 PM

On Dec 5, 7:40=A0pm, Father Haskell <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Dec 4, 2:14=A0pm, DerbyDad03 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Greetings!
>
> > I need a bunch of slats to extend a fence around SWMBO's garden.
>
> > The short story is that I need a bunch of 6' x 4" x 1/2" rough cut
> > pressure treated slats. That's the actual size of each slat.
>
> > Does anybody know where I can get that size stock - for a reasonable
> > price? I tried a couple of local lumber yards and nobody carries
> > anything that thin.
>
> > The longer story is this:
>
> > The company who manufactured my existing fence appears to be out of
> > business. It was either "Four Guys Lumber" or "Five Guys Lumber" or
> > "Four Guys Fencing" or "Five Guys Fencing" or something like that - it'=
s
> > been 20 or so years since I installed the fence.
>
> > When I bought the original fence from them, I ordered a bunch of extra
> > slats to build a matching 2' fence to put along the back of SWMBO's
> > garden which runs along the side of my driveway. I now need to extend
> > that fence another 12'.
>
> > For the current project I need about 45 2' slats. I'd like to get a
> > bunch of 6' or 8' slats so I can replace some broken slats on the
> > original fence as well as cut them down into 2' slats for the garden.
>
> > Does anybody know of a source for this material?
>
> > I suppose another option is to rip and then resaw some wider and thicke=
r
> > boards, but obviously there would be a lot of waste. I'm also not sure
> > about the best method to resaw the boards.
>
> > I have a 10" belt driven table saw and a 10" low-end band saw. The band
> > will just allow 4" of stock to be resawed.
>
> > If I use the table saw, I'd have to resaw the boards "twice" since the
> > blade won't extend 4" above the table. How unsafe would it be to try an=
d
> > resaw a bunch of 2' sections down to 1/2" using a "two pass" method?
>
> > If I wanted to use the band saw, what size blade should I use? I tried =
a
> > old 1/2" 14-TPI blade on a 3/4" PT board ripped to 4" but it's so dull
> > that the saw basically ground to a stop. The board was also wet, so tha=
t
> > may have been part of the problem.
>
> > I'm open to any and all suggestions.
>
> > Thanks!
>
> Buy a fence panel and take it apart with a cat's paw.

Thanks...but they don't sell the style of fence that I have anymore.

It's over 20 years old and the manufacturer seems to be out of
business.

En

"EXT"

in reply to DerbyDad03 on 04/12/2011 2:14 PM

04/12/2011 8:57 PM


"DerbyDad03" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Greetings!
>
> I need a bunch of slats to extend a fence around SWMBO's garden.
>
> The short story is that I need a bunch of 6' x 4" x 1/2" rough cut
> pressure treated slats. That's the actual size of each slat.
>
> Does anybody know where I can get that size stock - for a reasonable
> price? I tried a couple of local lumber yards and nobody carries anything
> that thin.
>
> The longer story is this:
>
> The company who manufactured my existing fence appears to be out of
> business. It was either "Four Guys Lumber" or "Five Guys Lumber" or "Four
> Guys Fencing" or "Five Guys Fencing" or something like that - it's been 20
> or so years since I installed the fence.
>
> When I bought the original fence from them, I ordered a bunch of extra
> slats to build a matching 2' fence to put along the back of SWMBO's garden
> which runs along the side of my driveway. I now need to extend that fence
> another 12'.
>
> For the current project I need about 45 2' slats. I'd like to get a bunch
> of 6' or 8' slats so I can replace some broken slats on the original fence
> as well as cut them down into 2' slats for the garden.
>
> Does anybody know of a source for this material?
>
> I suppose another option is to rip and then resaw some wider and thicker
> boards, but obviously there would be a lot of waste. I'm also not sure
> about the best method to resaw the boards.
>
> I have a 10" belt driven table saw and a 10" low-end band saw. The band
> will just allow 4" of stock to be resawed.
>
> If I use the table saw, I'd have to resaw the boards "twice" since the
> blade won't extend 4" above the table. How unsafe would it be to try and
> resaw a bunch of 2' sections down to 1/2" using a "two pass" method?
>
> If I wanted to use the band saw, what size blade should I use? I tried a
> old 1/2" 14-TPI blade on a 3/4" PT board ripped to 4" but it's so dull
> that the saw basically ground to a stop. The board was also wet, so that
> may have been part of the problem.
>
> I'm open to any and all suggestions.
>
> Thanks!

Around here Home Depot has 1" x 4" pressure treated fence boards that are
actually only 5/8" x 3 1/2" in size. If you need to cut down wood use
western red cedar as once you open up pressure treated wood you expose the
untreated center portion and it won't last long. Neither will you if you
breath the dust from cutting it.

Sb

"SonomaProducts.com"

in reply to DerbyDad03 on 04/12/2011 2:14 PM

06/12/2011 6:01 PM

>
> I'm open to any and all suggestions.
>
> Thanks!

Pressure treated... garden... Is this a vegtable garden? Leaching some
nice heavy metals from the fence into the food might be a concern?

MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to DerbyDad03 on 04/12/2011 2:14 PM

06/12/2011 12:07 AM

DerbyDad03 wrote:

>
> It's over 20 years old and the manufacturer seems to be out of
> business.

Have your tried the yellow pages? It would be worth looking for local
sawmills, etc. that can cut you exactly what you need. It will cost more
than the big box stores, but that's the way custom work goes.

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

Hd

Highlighter

in reply to DerbyDad03 on 04/12/2011 2:14 PM

04/12/2011 2:27 PM

On Dec 4, 3:59=A0pm, "dadiOH" <[email protected]> wrote:
> DerbyDad03 wrote:
> > Greetings!
>
> > I need a bunch of slats to extend a fence around SWMBO's garden.
>
> > The short story is that I need a bunch of 6' x 4" x 1/2" rough cut
> > pressure treated slats. That's the actual size of each slat.
>
> > Does anybody know where I can get that size stock - for a reasonable
> > price? I tried a couple of local lumber yards and nobody carries
> > anything that thin.
>
> > The longer story is this:
>
> > The company who manufactured my existing fence appears to be out of
> > business. It was either "Four Guys Lumber" or "Five Guys Lumber" or
> > "Four Guys Fencing" or "Five Guys Fencing" or something like that -
> > it's been 20 or so years since I installed the fence.
>
> > When I bought the original fence from them, I ordered a bunch of extra
> > slats to build a matching 2' fence to put along the back of SWMBO's
> > garden which runs along the side of my driveway. I now need to extend
> > that fence another 12'.
>
> > For the current project I need about 45 2' slats. I'd like to get a
> > bunch of 6' or 8' slats so I can replace some broken slats on the
> > original fence as well as cut them down into 2' slats for the garden.
>
> > Does anybody know of a source for this material?
>
> > I suppose another option is to rip and then resaw some wider and
> > thicker boards, but obviously there would be a lot of waste. I'm also
> > not sure about the best method to resaw the boards.
>
> > I have a 10" belt driven table saw and a 10" low-end band saw. The
> > band will just allow 4" of stock to be resawed.
>
> > If I use the table saw, I'd have to resaw the boards "twice" since the
> > blade won't extend 4" above the table. How unsafe would it be to try
> > and resaw a bunch of 2' sections down to 1/2" using a "two pass"
> > method?
> > If I wanted to use the band saw, what size blade should I use? I
> > tried a old 1/2" 14-TPI blade on a 3/4" PT board ripped to 4" but
> > it's so dull that the saw basically ground to a stop. The board was
> > also wet, so that may have been part of the problem.
>
> > I'm open to any and all suggestions.
>
> Home Depot or Lowes...dog ear fence boards, 4" x .5
>
> 14 TPI is waaay too many...try 3-4 TPI, 1/2". =A0Like this one...http://w=
ww.highlandwoodworking.com/woodslicer12resawbandsawblades138t...
>
> --
>
> dadiOH
> ____________________________
>
> dadiOH's dandies v3.06...
> ...a help file of info about MP3s, recording from
> LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.
> Get it athttp://mysite.verizon.net/xico

I've considered going with slats and may still if getting exact
matches are a problem.

The dog eared slats at the HD near me are 5 1/2" wide and noticeably
thicker than my slats. I couldn't find individual slats at Lowes.

Even if I was willing to live with the extra thickness, the dog ears
are a bit of an issue.

The dog ears come in at least 1" from each side. If I rip the dog ears
off completely, I'd be left with ~3 1/2" slats, when I really need 4"
slats.

So what I'd need to do is rip them twice to get the 4" out of the
center, then trim off what's left of the dog ear. That would leave me
with just under 6', which would mean I'd get 3 slightly less than 2'
slats from each board. It probably wouldn't be noticeable, but I
haven't tried it yet.

I was actually going to grab a few slats from HD last night and give
them a try but their selection was so crappy that I got pissed and
left. It didn't look like they had enough good slats for me to do the
whole project so I didn't bother grabbing a few to try. I drove over
to Lowes to see what they had and they didn't have *any* individual
slats in stock.

See here...This is what I need to extend. Since it's right next to my
driveway, I'm pretty sure that the thicker slats are going to be
noticeable. At least I know I'll notice them. ;-)

http://i40.tinypic.com/k0ocpt.jpg

Thanks for the link to the resaw blade. Unfortunately, I need a 72 5/8
blade for my old Craftsman 10" band saw. Sears has a 3 TPI blade on
line for something like $90. I'm sure that I can get one made locally
for a lot less than that.

JG

"John Grossbohlin"

in reply to DerbyDad03 on 04/12/2011 2:14 PM

04/12/2011 2:33 PM

Maybe you can locate fence panels that have similar sized slats and you
could break them down...

Home Depot and other places carry 1x PT stock that measures 3/4" thick. I'd
think it would not be unreasonable to build the new sections with the
slightly thicker material and rearrange long slats on the old fencing so
that a less obvious section is done with new 1x stock.

...alternatively the rip/resaw route is an option though a bit of a
challenge with your equipment. Got any buddies with a bigger bandsaw? If you
could count on full penetration of the PT, staring with 6x6 stock wouldn't
leave much waste.

That, or roll back time and get everything you need!

"DerbyDad03" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Greetings!
>
> I need a bunch of slats to extend a fence around SWMBO's garden.
>
> The short story is that I need a bunch of 6' x 4" x 1/2" rough cut
> pressure treated slats. That's the actual size of each slat.
>

Dt

DerbyDad03

in reply to DerbyDad03 on 04/12/2011 2:14 PM

05/12/2011 9:33 AM

On Dec 5, 6:51=A0am, "dadiOH" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Highlighter wrote:
> > On Dec 4, 3:59 pm, "dadiOH" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> DerbyDad03 wrote:
> >>> Greetings!
>
> >>> I need a bunch of slats to extend a fence around SWMBO's garden.
>
> >>> The short story is that I need a bunch of 6' x 4" x 1/2" rough cut
> >>> pressure treated slats. That's the actual size of each slat.
>
> >>> Does anybody know where I can get that size stock - for a reasonable
> >>> price? I tried a couple of local lumber yards and nobody carries
> >>> anything that thin.
>
> >>> The longer story is this:
>
> >>> The company who manufactured my existing fence appears to be out of
> >>> business. It was either "Four Guys Lumber" or "Five Guys Lumber" or
> >>> "Four Guys Fencing" or "Five Guys Fencing" or something like that -
> >>> it's been 20 or so years since I installed the fence.
>
> >>> When I bought the original fence from them, I ordered a bunch of
> >>> extra slats to build a matching 2' fence to put along the back of
> >>> SWMBO's garden which runs along the side of my driveway. I now need
> >>> to extend that fence another 12'.
>
> >>> For the current project I need about 45 2' slats. I'd like to get a
> >>> bunch of 6' or 8' slats so I can replace some broken slats on the
> >>> original fence as well as cut them down into 2' slats for the
> >>> garden.
>
> >>> Does anybody know of a source for this material?
>
> >>> I suppose another option is to rip and then resaw some wider and
> >>> thicker boards, but obviously there would be a lot of waste. I'm
> >>> also not sure about the best method to resaw the boards.
>
> >>> I have a 10" belt driven table saw and a 10" low-end band saw. The
> >>> band will just allow 4" of stock to be resawed.
>
> >>> If I use the table saw, I'd have to resaw the boards "twice" since
> >>> the blade won't extend 4" above the table. How unsafe would it be
> >>> to try and resaw a bunch of 2' sections down to 1/2" using a "two
> >>> pass" method?
> >>> If I wanted to use the band saw, what size blade should I use? I
> >>> tried a old 1/2" 14-TPI blade on a 3/4" PT board ripped to 4" but
> >>> it's so dull that the saw basically ground to a stop. The board was
> >>> also wet, so that may have been part of the problem.
>
> >>> I'm open to any and all suggestions.
>
> >> Home Depot or Lowes...dog ear fence boards, 4" x .5
>
> >> 14 TPI is waaay too many...try 3-4 TPI, 1/2". Like this
> >> one...http://www.highlandwoodworking.com/woodslicer12resawbandsawblade=
s138t...
> > I've considered going with slats and may still if getting exact
> > matches are a problem.
>
> > The dog eared slats at the HD near me are 5 1/2" wide and noticeably
> > thicker than my slats. I couldn't find individual slats at Lowes.
> > Even if I was willing to live with the extra thickness, the dog ears
> > are a bit of an issue.
>
> > The dog ears come in at least 1" from each side. If I rip the dog ears
> > off completely, I'd be left with ~3 1/2" slats, when I really need 4"
> > slats.
>
> Uhhh...cut them off. =A0CROSScut them off.
> ______________________
>
> > Thanks for the link to the resaw blade. Unfortunately, I need a 72 5/8
> > blade for my old Craftsman 10" band saw.
>
> So what's the problem? =A0They have them in that size range.
>
> --
>
> dadiOH
> ____________________________
>
> dadiOH's dandies v3.06...
> ...a help file of info about MP3s, recording from
> LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.
> Get it athttp://mysite.verizon.net/xico- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Sorry, I pulled down the "Select Blade Length" drop down and only saw
(no pun intended) 138 - 166 lengths and assumed that the site was for
bigger machines.

I found the pages for the shorter lengths.

However, the page says this:

"Due to the blades' minimal set the WoodSlicer=AE is not recommended for
cutting green wood."

Wouldn't wet PT wood act just like green wood?

Hd

Highlighter

in reply to DerbyDad03 on 04/12/2011 2:14 PM

04/12/2011 5:44 PM

On Dec 4, 7:03=A0pm, "Twayne" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Innews:[email protected],
> dpb <[email protected]> typed:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 12/4/2011 1:33 PM, John Grossbohlin wrote:
> > ...
>
> >> Home Depot and other places carry 1x PT stock that
> >> measures 3/4" thick. I'd think it would not be
> >> unreasonable to build the new sections with the slightly
> >> thicker material and rearrange long slats on the old
> >> fencing so that a less obvious section is done with new
> >> 1x stock. =A0....alternatively the rip/resaw route is an option
> >> though a bit of a challenge with your equipment. Got any
> >> buddies with a bigger bandsaw? If you could count on
> >> full penetration of the PT, staring with 6x6 stock
> >> wouldn't leave much waste. That, or roll back time and get everything =
you
> >> need!
> > ...
>
> > Oh come on, now...here's the need for that lunchbox
> > planer I know DD's been lusting for (or should have been
> > if not :) ).
>
> Or do the treatment manually. It's readily available and you just brush i=
t
> on and let it set, repeat. Depth of PT treatments is really pretty small =
is
> you cut a piece unless you go for the high pressure treated stuff, so I u=
se
> to stuff from the store in those cases.
>
> HTH,
>
> Twayne`

But I'd still need 4" x 1/2" slats, which isn't something that's
readily available unless I have it milled or mill it myself.

Besides, since I doubt anything I treated would match what I already
have, I might as well just go with the thicker PT slats. If it's not
going to match anyway, why go through the extra work?

Nn

Nova

in reply to DerbyDad03 on 04/12/2011 2:14 PM

05/12/2011 3:05 PM

On Mon, 5 Dec 2011 09:33:03 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
<[email protected]> wrote:

<snip>

>
>Sorry, I pulled down the "Select Blade Length" drop down and only saw
>(no pun intended) 138 - 166 lengths and assumed that the site was for
>bigger machines.
>
>I found the pages for the shorter lengths.
>
>However, the page says this:
>
>"Due to the blades' minimal set the WoodSlicer® is not recommended for
>cutting green wood."
>
>Wouldn't wet PT wood act just like green wood?


The Suffolk Machinery's TimberWolf blades have more set to the teeth
than the Woodslicer. They also cut faster (but rougher).

http://www.suffolkmachinery.com/swedish-silicon-steel-prices/
--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA

dn

dpb

in reply to DerbyDad03 on 04/12/2011 2:14 PM

04/12/2011 1:58 PM

On 12/4/2011 1:33 PM, John Grossbohlin wrote:
...

> Home Depot and other places carry 1x PT stock that measures 3/4" thick.
> I'd think it would not be unreasonable to build the new sections with
> the slightly thicker material and rearrange long slats on the old
> fencing so that a less obvious section is done with new 1x stock.
>
> ....alternatively the rip/resaw route is an option though a bit of a
> challenge with your equipment. Got any buddies with a bigger bandsaw? If
> you could count on full penetration of the PT, staring with 6x6 stock
> wouldn't leave much waste.
>
> That, or roll back time and get everything you need!
...

Oh come on, now...here's the need for that lunchbox planer I know DD's
been lusting for (or should have been if not :) ).

--

dd

"dadiOH"

in reply to DerbyDad03 on 04/12/2011 2:14 PM

04/12/2011 3:59 PM

DerbyDad03 wrote:
> Greetings!
>
> I need a bunch of slats to extend a fence around SWMBO's garden.
>
> The short story is that I need a bunch of 6' x 4" x 1/2" rough cut
> pressure treated slats. That's the actual size of each slat.
>
> Does anybody know where I can get that size stock - for a reasonable
> price? I tried a couple of local lumber yards and nobody carries
> anything that thin.
>
> The longer story is this:
>
> The company who manufactured my existing fence appears to be out of
> business. It was either "Four Guys Lumber" or "Five Guys Lumber" or
> "Four Guys Fencing" or "Five Guys Fencing" or something like that -
> it's been 20 or so years since I installed the fence.
>
> When I bought the original fence from them, I ordered a bunch of extra
> slats to build a matching 2' fence to put along the back of SWMBO's
> garden which runs along the side of my driveway. I now need to extend
> that fence another 12'.
>
> For the current project I need about 45 2' slats. I'd like to get a
> bunch of 6' or 8' slats so I can replace some broken slats on the
> original fence as well as cut them down into 2' slats for the garden.
>
> Does anybody know of a source for this material?
>
> I suppose another option is to rip and then resaw some wider and
> thicker boards, but obviously there would be a lot of waste. I'm also
> not sure about the best method to resaw the boards.
>
> I have a 10" belt driven table saw and a 10" low-end band saw. The
> band will just allow 4" of stock to be resawed.
>
> If I use the table saw, I'd have to resaw the boards "twice" since the
> blade won't extend 4" above the table. How unsafe would it be to try
> and resaw a bunch of 2' sections down to 1/2" using a "two pass"
> method?
> If I wanted to use the band saw, what size blade should I use? I
> tried a old 1/2" 14-TPI blade on a 3/4" PT board ripped to 4" but
> it's so dull that the saw basically ground to a stop. The board was
> also wet, so that may have been part of the problem.
>
> I'm open to any and all suggestions.

Home Depot or Lowes...dog ear fence boards, 4" x .5

14 TPI is waaay too many...try 3-4 TPI, 1/2". Like this one...
http://www.highlandwoodworking.com/woodslicer12resawbandsawblades138to166.aspx

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Steve Turner

in reply to DerbyDad03 on 04/12/2011 2:14 PM

04/12/2011 5:01 PM

On 12/4/2011 3:51 PM, John Grossbohlin wrote:
>
> "dpb" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>> On 12/4/2011 1:33 PM, John Grossbohlin wrote:
>> ...
>>
>>> Home Depot and other places carry 1x PT stock that measures 3/4" thick.
>>> I'd think it would not be unreasonable to build the new sections with
>>> the slightly thicker material and rearrange long slats on the old
>>> fencing so that a less obvious section is done with new 1x stock.
>>>
>>> ....alternatively the rip/resaw route is an option though a bit of a
>>> challenge with your equipment. Got any buddies with a bigger bandsaw? If
>>> you could count on full penetration of the PT, staring with 6x6 stock
>>> wouldn't leave much waste.
>>>
>>> That, or roll back time and get everything you need!
>> ...
>>
>> Oh come on, now...here's the need for that lunchbox planer I know DD's been
>> lusting for (or should have been if not :) ).
>
> I was hinting more for a bigger bandsaw.... ;~)
>
> Me, I need no encouragement. I am proficient at talking myself into bigger
> tools... currently contemplating if I can get a 12" Crescent jointer in my
> shop. The 8" DJ-20 would have to go... or I could put it in the woodshed with
> the 36" bandsaw... or I can wait until someone else grabs it off Craigs List
> (the smart thing).

I could find a place for the DJ-20! I don't suppose you're anywhere near Austin...

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"Twayne"

in reply to DerbyDad03 on 04/12/2011 2:14 PM

04/12/2011 7:03 PM

In news:[email protected],
dpb <[email protected]> typed:
> On 12/4/2011 1:33 PM, John Grossbohlin wrote:
> ...
>
>> Home Depot and other places carry 1x PT stock that
>> measures 3/4" thick. I'd think it would not be
>> unreasonable to build the new sections with the slightly
>> thicker material and rearrange long slats on the old
>> fencing so that a less obvious section is done with new
>> 1x stock. ....alternatively the rip/resaw route is an option
>> though a bit of a challenge with your equipment. Got any
>> buddies with a bigger bandsaw? If you could count on
>> full penetration of the PT, staring with 6x6 stock
>> wouldn't leave much waste. That, or roll back time and get everything you
>> need!
> ...
>
> Oh come on, now...here's the need for that lunchbox
> planer I know DD's been lusting for (or should have been
> if not :) ).

Or do the treatment manually. It's readily available and you just brush it
on and let it set, repeat. Depth of PT treatments is really pretty small is
you cut a piece unless you go for the high pressure treated stuff, so I use
to stuff from the store in those cases.

HTH,

Twayne`

DD

DerbyDad03

in reply to DerbyDad03 on 04/12/2011 2:14 PM

04/12/2011 9:07 PM

On 12/04/11 5:27 PM, Highlighter wrote:


hmm...I'm not sure what's going on with my posts, but I sat down at
another machine and posted replies to a few posts via Google Groups
instead of my newsreader.

I have no clue where the nickname Highlighter came from but those posts
are all from me, DerbyDad03, the OP.

lL

[email protected] (Larry W)

in reply to DerbyDad03 on 04/12/2011 2:14 PM

05/12/2011 3:02 AM

If you don't need "exactly" 4"X.5", HD, Lowes and most lumber yards
I've seen sell fence pickets about that size. I believe the actual width
is 3.5" and I wouldn't be surprised if they are LESS than 1/2" thick.


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"dadiOH"

in reply to DerbyDad03 on 04/12/2011 2:14 PM

05/12/2011 6:51 AM

Highlighter wrote:
> On Dec 4, 3:59 pm, "dadiOH" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> DerbyDad03 wrote:
>>> Greetings!
>>
>>> I need a bunch of slats to extend a fence around SWMBO's garden.
>>
>>> The short story is that I need a bunch of 6' x 4" x 1/2" rough cut
>>> pressure treated slats. That's the actual size of each slat.
>>
>>> Does anybody know where I can get that size stock - for a reasonable
>>> price? I tried a couple of local lumber yards and nobody carries
>>> anything that thin.
>>
>>> The longer story is this:
>>
>>> The company who manufactured my existing fence appears to be out of
>>> business. It was either "Four Guys Lumber" or "Five Guys Lumber" or
>>> "Four Guys Fencing" or "Five Guys Fencing" or something like that -
>>> it's been 20 or so years since I installed the fence.
>>
>>> When I bought the original fence from them, I ordered a bunch of
>>> extra slats to build a matching 2' fence to put along the back of
>>> SWMBO's garden which runs along the side of my driveway. I now need
>>> to extend that fence another 12'.
>>
>>> For the current project I need about 45 2' slats. I'd like to get a
>>> bunch of 6' or 8' slats so I can replace some broken slats on the
>>> original fence as well as cut them down into 2' slats for the
>>> garden.
>>
>>> Does anybody know of a source for this material?
>>
>>> I suppose another option is to rip and then resaw some wider and
>>> thicker boards, but obviously there would be a lot of waste. I'm
>>> also not sure about the best method to resaw the boards.
>>
>>> I have a 10" belt driven table saw and a 10" low-end band saw. The
>>> band will just allow 4" of stock to be resawed.
>>
>>> If I use the table saw, I'd have to resaw the boards "twice" since
>>> the blade won't extend 4" above the table. How unsafe would it be
>>> to try and resaw a bunch of 2' sections down to 1/2" using a "two
>>> pass" method?
>>> If I wanted to use the band saw, what size blade should I use? I
>>> tried a old 1/2" 14-TPI blade on a 3/4" PT board ripped to 4" but
>>> it's so dull that the saw basically ground to a stop. The board was
>>> also wet, so that may have been part of the problem.
>>
>>> I'm open to any and all suggestions.
>>
>> Home Depot or Lowes...dog ear fence boards, 4" x .5
>>
>> 14 TPI is waaay too many...try 3-4 TPI, 1/2". Like this
>> one...http://www.highlandwoodworking.com/woodslicer12resawbandsawblades138t...

> I've considered going with slats and may still if getting exact
> matches are a problem.
>
> The dog eared slats at the HD near me are 5 1/2" wide and noticeably
> thicker than my slats. I couldn't find individual slats at Lowes.

> Even if I was willing to live with the extra thickness, the dog ears
> are a bit of an issue.
>
> The dog ears come in at least 1" from each side. If I rip the dog ears
> off completely, I'd be left with ~3 1/2" slats, when I really need 4"
> slats.

Uhhh...cut them off. CROSScut them off.
______________________

> Thanks for the link to the resaw blade. Unfortunately, I need a 72 5/8
> blade for my old Craftsman 10" band saw.

So what's the problem? They have them in that size range.


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"dadiOH"

in reply to DerbyDad03 on 04/12/2011 2:14 PM

05/12/2011 2:33 PM

DerbyDad03 wrote:
> On Dec 5, 6:51 am, "dadiOH" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Highlighter wrote:
>>> On Dec 4, 3:59 pm, "dadiOH" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> DerbyDad03 wrote:
>>>>> Greetings!
>>
>>>>> I need a bunch of slats to extend a fence around SWMBO's garden.
>>
>>>>> The short story is that I need a bunch of 6' x 4" x 1/2" rough cut
>>>>> pressure treated slats. That's the actual size of each slat.
>>
>>>>> Does anybody know where I can get that size stock - for a
>>>>> reasonable price? I tried a couple of local lumber yards and
>>>>> nobody carries anything that thin.
>>
>>>>> The longer story is this:
>>
>>>>> The company who manufactured my existing fence appears to be out
>>>>> of business. It was either "Four Guys Lumber" or "Five Guys
>>>>> Lumber" or "Four Guys Fencing" or "Five Guys Fencing" or
>>>>> something like that - it's been 20 or so years since I installed
>>>>> the fence.
>>
>>>>> When I bought the original fence from them, I ordered a bunch of
>>>>> extra slats to build a matching 2' fence to put along the back of
>>>>> SWMBO's garden which runs along the side of my driveway. I now
>>>>> need to extend that fence another 12'.
>>
>>>>> For the current project I need about 45 2' slats. I'd like to get
>>>>> a bunch of 6' or 8' slats so I can replace some broken slats on
>>>>> the original fence as well as cut them down into 2' slats for the
>>>>> garden.
>>
>>>>> Does anybody know of a source for this material?
>>
>>>>> I suppose another option is to rip and then resaw some wider and
>>>>> thicker boards, but obviously there would be a lot of waste. I'm
>>>>> also not sure about the best method to resaw the boards.
>>
>>>>> I have a 10" belt driven table saw and a 10" low-end band saw. The
>>>>> band will just allow 4" of stock to be resawed.
>>
>>>>> If I use the table saw, I'd have to resaw the boards "twice" since
>>>>> the blade won't extend 4" above the table. How unsafe would it be
>>>>> to try and resaw a bunch of 2' sections down to 1/2" using a "two
>>>>> pass" method?
>>>>> If I wanted to use the band saw, what size blade should I use? I
>>>>> tried a old 1/2" 14-TPI blade on a 3/4" PT board ripped to 4" but
>>>>> it's so dull that the saw basically ground to a stop. The board
>>>>> was also wet, so that may have been part of the problem.
>>
>>>>> I'm open to any and all suggestions.
>>
>>>> Home Depot or Lowes...dog ear fence boards, 4" x .5
>>
>>>> 14 TPI is waaay too many...try 3-4 TPI, 1/2". Like this
>>>> one...http://www.highlandwoodworking.com/woodslicer12resawbandsawblades138t...
>>> I've considered going with slats and may still if getting exact
>>> matches are a problem.
>>
>>> The dog eared slats at the HD near me are 5 1/2" wide and noticeably
>>> thicker than my slats. I couldn't find individual slats at Lowes.
>>> Even if I was willing to live with the extra thickness, the dog ears
>>> are a bit of an issue.
>>
>>> The dog ears come in at least 1" from each side. If I rip the dog
>>> ears off completely, I'd be left with ~3 1/2" slats, when I really
>>> need 4" slats.
>>
>> Uhhh...cut them off. CROSScut them off.
>> ______________________
>>
>>> Thanks for the link to the resaw blade. Unfortunately, I need a 72
>>> 5/8 blade for my old Craftsman 10" band saw.
>>
>> So what's the problem? They have them in that size range.
>>
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>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Sorry, I pulled down the "Select Blade Length" drop down and only saw
> (no pun intended) 138 - 166 lengths and assumed that the site was for
> bigger machines.
>
> I found the pages for the shorter lengths.
>
> However, the page says this:
>
> "Due to the blades' minimal set the WoodSlicer® is not recommended for
> cutting green wood."
>
> Wouldn't wet PT wood act just like green wood?

1. Cherry pick it and find some that isn't all drippy

- OR -

2. Let it sit around a while.

- OR -

3. Cut it anyway.

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DerbyDad03

in reply to DerbyDad03 on 04/12/2011 2:14 PM

06/12/2011 8:32 PM

On 12/06/11 12:07 AM, Mike Marlow wrote:
> DerbyDad03 wrote:
>
>>
>> It's over 20 years old and the manufacturer seems to be out of
>> business.
>
> Have your tried the yellow pages? It would be worth looking for local
> sawmills, etc. that can cut you exactly what you need. It will cost more
> than the big box stores, but that's the way custom work goes.
>
Thanks for the suggestion.

I tried a local lumber yard and their response was "Wow! That's really
thin."

They suggested a local fence company but I haven't had time to head over
there yet. (It's on the side of town I rarely have reason to go to.)

I'm sure that they are going to want to see a sample (as would I) before
they can quote me a price.

DD

DerbyDad03

in reply to DerbyDad03 on 04/12/2011 2:14 PM

07/12/2011 12:38 AM

On 12/06/11 9:01 PM, SonomaProducts.com wrote:
>>
>> I'm open to any and all suggestions.
>>
>> Thanks!
>
> Pressure treated... garden... Is this a vegtable garden? Leaching some
> nice heavy metals from the fence into the food might be a concern?

Flowers only...but thanks for caring!


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