On Sun, 01 Jan 2006 14:42:57 -0700, Mark & Juanita
<[email protected]> wrote:
> But look at the feedback prior to the beginning of November -- it was
>overwhelmingly positive, it was only after December when the scam unfolded.
>Looks like he was planning this for some time, got a good setup, got good
>recommendations, then one final binge of selling nonexistant goods and
>*poof*, he's gone.
Or, he fell off the wagon. <G>
Wow, thats pretty amazing. Some interesting comments:
Ie on Nov 30 some kid bid on an XBox360 on his dads account (haha) and
seller agreed to refund the $450 - pretty nice. Then a week later he
goes whacko:
" my son bid on this item without my consent...hasnt replied to any of
my messages
Follow-up by bassplaya858: understanding guy...sorry for any troubles i
caused "
One comments I dont get though:
" Well, they got me too. Out 325.00, I will be filing complaints with
Ebay & USPS. "
But the guy left NEUTRAL feedback. Dudes out $325 and its not negative?
wtf!
Charles Self wrote:
>
> ...
>
> He came back with a threat to "give me a feedback you really wouldn't like
> if you don't remove the *negative* feedback" which I assume he'll do today
> or tomorrow.
> ...
I remember coming accross one seller who gave negative feedback
to every customer who gave him negative feedback, and in the
feedback comments area stated quite plainly that his gripe with
the customer was the negative feedback he had received, which
was typically for misrepresenting the condition of the merchandise.
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Charles Self wrote:
> So based on its being a semi-nonsense item, I gave the guy a neutral
> feedback.
>
> He came back with a threat to "give me a feedback you really wouldn't
> like if you don't remove the *negative* feedback" which I assume he'll
> do today or tomorrow.
>
> It does make one wonder what kind of thugs do sell there on a
> consistent basis. Obviously, this is not a normal thing, or IME, it
> isn't. I've had numerous good transactions with no problems at all.
I had someone threaten me that way. I reported him to Ebay and got a
polite response that they didn't feel the offense was serious enough to
warrant kicking him off, but they had warned him. And I never saw the
threatened feedback.
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On 31 Dec 2005 08:35:37 -0800, "Geo" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>Sam The Cat wrote:
>> The real question is what happened on 10 December..........\
>>
>
>Probably an ID theft.
???? how would that work on e-bay? Guy had reasonably good ratings up
until then. One of the comments indicates that the police found his
apartment empty.
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On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 10:21:49 -0600, Andy <[email protected]> wrote:
> Jesus!
>
> http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=alisher71&items=25&page=1&frompage=-1&iid=-1&de=off
Don't people read feedback?
I see he's "no longer a registered user". I wonder why?!?!?!
On Sun, 01 Jan 2006 17:44:24 GMT, Edwin Pawlowski <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> "Dave Hinz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> I see he's "no longer a registered user". I wonder why?!?!?!
> An optimist would say he has 82% positive feedback. Want to gamble???
IMNSHO, anything less than 99% is a gamble, depending on the number and
nature of the negs.
On 31 Dec 2005 10:27:08 -0800, [email protected] wrote:
>Wow, thats pretty amazing. Some interesting comments:
>
>Ie on Nov 30 some kid bid on an XBox360 on his dads account (haha) and
>seller agreed to refund the $450 - pretty nice. Then a week later he
>goes whacko:
>
>" my son bid on this item without my consent...hasnt replied to any of
>my messages
>Follow-up by bassplaya858: understanding guy...sorry for any troubles i
>caused "
>
>One comments I dont get though:
>
>" Well, they got me too. Out 325.00, I will be filing complaints with
>Ebay & USPS. "
>
>But the guy left NEUTRAL feedback. Dudes out $325 and its not negative?
>wtf!
Yeah, people are just so scared about negative feedback that they will
give a neutral to avoid it, no matter how bad things are. As if your
Ebay feedback is listed on your credit report or driver's license. :)
I figger that it's not worth the hassle, I just don't bother with Ebay
unless it's something small and not too valuable, the charges and
Payscam stuff are just too much to deal with otherwise.
Mark
On 31 Dec 2005 08:35:37 -0800, "Geo" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>Sam The Cat wrote:
>> The real question is what happened on 10 December..........\
>>
>
>Probably an ID theft.
Or he fell off the wagon... <G>
Barry
On Sun, 01 Jan 2006 18:54:11 GMT, "Davis Watkins" <[email protected]>
wrote:
Top posting repaired to preserve continuity
>"Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>>
>> "Dave Hinz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 10:21:49 -0600, Andy <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Jesus!
>>>>
>>>> http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=alisher71&items=25&page=1&frompage=-1&iid=-1&de=off
>>>
>>> Don't people read feedback?
>>>
>>> I see he's "no longer a registered user". I wonder why?!?!?!
>>
>> An optimist would say he has 82% positive feedback. Want to gamble???
>>
>
>I will bet you someone stole his password and used his account to steal
>money. I get the emails all the time saying I need to sign or lose my ebay
>account.
>
Take a look at the feedback and the various blogs started on this guy.
The police went to check out the complaint -- apartment was empty. Looks
like this was a long-term scam, or a last-minute "travelling" money idea on
the part of the seller.
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Odinn wrote:
>
> I will not provide feedback for a merchant until they have provided me
> with feedback (unless it is absolutely terrible merchandise). They have
> my money and have shipped the item LONG before I receive the item. They
> already know what kind of feedback to give prior to my receiving the
> item. I don't get feedback, I don't leave it, hence my feedback rating
> is REAL low, considering I've been purchasing stuff on eBay for several
> years.
Exactly! Who's the usually the first to blink (say thank you) in a face
to face transaction in a store? Should be the seller.
A lot of the sellers use automated software that basically handles
almost the entire process including leaving feedback AFTER they receive
it. I always include a note with my PayPal payment indicating that I
leave feedback ONLY after it's been left for me. If the seller doesn't
leave it for me, they do without. I've been fortunate in that all my
eBay deals (200+)have gone well but, like Odinn, if I got stung I'd be
more than happy to leave appropriate feedback first<g>
"Dave Hinz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sun, 01 Jan 2006 17:44:24 GMT, Edwin Pawlowski <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> "Dave Hinz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>
>>> I see he's "no longer a registered user". I wonder why?!?!?!
>
>> An optimist would say he has 82% positive feedback. Want to gamble???
>
> IMNSHO, anything less than 99% is a gamble, depending on the number and
> nature of the negs.
>
"Dave Hinz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sun, 01 Jan 2006 17:44:24 GMT, Edwin Pawlowski <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> "Dave Hinz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>
>>> I see he's "no longer a registered user". I wonder why?!?!?!
>
>> An optimist would say he has 82% positive feedback. Want to gamble???
>
> IMNSHO, anything less than 99% is a gamble, depending on the number and
> nature of the negs.
Oh, I dunno. My opinion of feedback has dropped drastically. I thought I was
buying a useful pamphlet, only to discover that what arrived was tripe,
first covered in the '50s, but supposedly related to getting great gas
mileage from today's cars. I didn't really expect it to be much, but I keep
looking for article subjects, so...
Anyway, it's a cobbled up fuel preheater for carburetors. The pamphlet was
copyrighted in '81, and the material wasn't accurate then.
So based on its being a semi-nonsense item, I gave the guy a neutral
feedback.
He came back with a threat to "give me a feedback you really wouldn't like
if you don't remove the *negative* feedback" which I assume he'll do today
or tomorrow.
It does make one wonder what kind of thugs do sell there on a consistent
basis. Obviously, this is not a normal thing, or IME, it isn't. I've had
numerous good transactions with no problems at all.
Using the feedback area as a tool of retaliation strikes me as somewhat
different from what is intended by Ebay, but also something nearly
impossible to check and enforce. It might have a really negative effect on
some people who do sell there, and who do depend on Ebay for a part of their
living.
"Dave Hinz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 10:21:49 -0600, Andy <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Jesus!
>>
>> http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=alisher71&items=25&page=1&frompage=-1&iid=-1&de=off
>
> Don't people read feedback?
>
> I see he's "no longer a registered user". I wonder why?!?!?!
An optimist would say he has 82% positive feedback. Want to gamble???
"Sam The Cat" <[email protected]> writes:
> "Andy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Jesus!
>>
>> http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=alisher71&items=25&page=1&frompage=-1&iid=-1&de=off
>
> The real question is what happened on 10 December..........
I had to undo your top posting for readability.
See
http://www.onemadguy.com/alisher71sux/
http://alischersucks.blogspot.com/
http://www.thechamplainchannel.com/technology/5610160/detail.html
Apparently this guy from Uzbekistan sold $100,000 worth of stuff on
eBay to a hundred people, and just kept the money.
Before that he was an official eBay "Power Seller."
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On 1 Jan 2006 16:58:19 GMT, Dave Hinz <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 10:21:49 -0600, Andy <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Jesus!
>>
>> http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=alisher71&items=25&page=1&frompage=-1&iid=-1&de=off
>
>Don't people read feedback?
>
But look at the feedback prior to the beginning of November -- it was
overwhelmingly positive, it was only after December when the scam unfolded.
Looks like he was planning this for some time, got a good setup, got good
recommendations, then one final binge of selling nonexistant goods and
*poof*, he's gone.
>I see he's "no longer a registered user". I wonder why?!?!?!
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Dave Hinz <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 10:21:49 -0600, Andy <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Jesus!
> >
> > http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=alisher71&items=25&page=1&frompage=-1&iid=-1&de=off
> Don't people read feedback?
Obviously not. Did you see his before 12/5?
He had approximately 500 positives and 2 negatives. That's 99.6% positive.
> I see he's "no longer a registered user". I wonder why?!?!?!
Probably because he was either a fraud who built up his rating, ripped
people off, and skipped the country or his account was stolen. Both happen
frequently.
I won't pay over $100 for anything on ebay unless I can pick it up in
person for cash or the seller is a reputable company with a presence outside
of ebay AND they take credit cards.
I will bet you someone stole his password and used his account to steal
money. I get the emails all the time saying I need to sign or lose my ebay
account.
"Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Dave Hinz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 10:21:49 -0600, Andy <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Jesus!
>>>
>>> http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=alisher71&items=25&page=1&frompage=-1&iid=-1&de=off
>>
>> Don't people read feedback?
>>
>> I see he's "no longer a registered user". I wonder why?!?!?!
>
> An optimist would say he has 82% positive feedback. Want to gamble???
>
The real question is what happened on 10 December..........\
"Andy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Jesus!
>
> http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=alisher71&items=25&page=1&frompage=-1&iid=-1&de=off
On 1/2/2006 1:14 PM [email protected] mumbled something about the
following:
> Charles Self wrote:
>> ...
>>
>> He came back with a threat to "give me a feedback you really wouldn't like
>> if you don't remove the *negative* feedback" which I assume he'll do today
>> or tomorrow.
>> ...
>
> I remember coming accross one seller who gave negative feedback
> to every customer who gave him negative feedback, and in the
> feedback comments area stated quite plainly that his gripe with
> the customer was the negative feedback he had received, which
> was typically for misrepresenting the condition of the merchandise.
>
I will not provide feedback for a merchant until they have provided me
with feedback (unless it is absolutely terrible merchandise). They have
my money and have shipped the item LONG before I receive the item. They
already know what kind of feedback to give prior to my receiving the
item. I don't get feedback, I don't leave it, hence my feedback rating
is REAL low, considering I've been purchasing stuff on eBay for several
years.
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Odinn - as a purchaser, I don't care about my feedback rating.