"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Take your choice:
>
> Floods in the south east, especially around Atlanta
> or
> Another wild fire in SoCal.
>
> 8,500 acres, less than 6% relative humidity, 6,000 firefighters.
>
> Fortunately no deaths here in SoCal, unlike the SE.
>
> Either way, Mother Nature can be a bitch.
>
> Take care of yourself out there.
>
> Lew
>
Is it Mother Nature? Or is it poop? Apparently one big fire was caused by
spontaneous combustion of a manure pile.
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2009/09/ventura-county-fire-burns-6000-acres-caused-by-spontaneous-combustion-of-manure.html
"Lee Michaels" wrote:
> Is it Mother Nature? Or is it poop? Apparently one big fire was
> caused by spontaneous combustion of a manure pile.
>
> http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2009/09/ventura-county-fire-burns-6000-acres-caused-by-spontaneous-combustion-of-manure.html
Reported but not yet confirmed by the arson squad.
Lew
On Sep 23, 10:19=A0am, "HeyBub" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Leon wrote:
>
> > A significant contribution to global warming is all the hot air from
> > polititians and their "global warming" contributors that will make
> > untold profits from this latest scam.
> > Apparently the reason that the Arctic is loosing glaciers is because
> > they are melting from the "ground side/bottom" =A0Greenland, not far
> > from that region is virtually a hot bed of under ground volcanic like
> > activity that normally takes place on the ocean floor but comes to
> > the surface there.
> > If there were not a way to make major money off of global warming you
> > would not hear another word on the subject.
>
> If you mean the "government" makes money, I'd agree. Obsequence to the
> global warming god costs the rest of us.
Come on. Now more than ever, government makes money the old fashioned
way; they print it.
Keith Nuttle <[email protected]> writes:
>Lew Hodgett wrote:
>> Take your choice:
>>
>> Floods in the south east, especially around Atlanta
>> or
>> Another wild fire in SoCal.
>>
>> 8,500 acres, less than 6% relative humidity, 6,000 firefighters.
>>
>> Fortunately no deaths here in SoCal, unlike the SE.
>>
>> Either way, Mother Nature can be a bitch.
>>
>> Take care of yourself out there.
>>
>> Lew
>>
>>
>>
>Don't you love global warming?
>
>The president gets up before the UN and talks about the global warming
>and the mid section of his country is experiencing the coldest summer in
>over 100 years. Talks about global warming caused drought, and the
>southeastern part of his country is under several feet of water.
While one must be sceptical of the pronouncments of James Hansen
(a demogogue as much as a scientist), one must also not confuse
weather with climate.
scott
(While climate change is a certainty, _anthropogenic_ climate change
is still a theory, with little science supporting it).
On Sep 24, 10:04=A0am, dpb <[email protected]> wrote:
> Lee Michaels wrote:
>
> ...
>
> > Is it Mother Nature? =A0Or is it poop? =A0Apparently one big fire was c=
aused by
> > spontaneous combustion of a manure pile.
>
> ...
>
> Nothing much more natural than that... :)
>
Tell that to my wife.
On Sep 23, 1:06=A0pm, "basilisk" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
>
> > Take your choice:
>
> > Floods in the south east, especially around Atlanta
> > or
> > Another wild fire in SoCal.
>
> > 8,500 acres, less than 6% relative humidity, 6,000 firefighters.
>
> > Fortunately no deaths here in SoCal, unlike the SE.
>
> > Either way, Mother Nature can be a bitch.
>
> > Take care of yourself out there.
>
> > Lew
>
> Yep,
>
> We now have an official monsoon season in Al,
> some spots have had 12 inches since Saturday
> with more promised.
We were up in Atlanta over the weekend, escaping from the football
crowds. What a mess. Someone was killed changing a tire (knocked
over the upper ramp wall onto I-85 below) on the I285-I85 "spaghetti
bowl". The game here was postponed something like three hours.
> Odd weather, it usually rains very little in August and
> September(unless there's a hurricane) and I can't remember
> the last time I stepped on dry ground.
I finally got to mow the front lawn last night. It's been 2-1/2
weeks. I'll do the back tonight, if I can get back there.
Jack Stein <[email protected]> wrote:
>Scott Lurndal wrote:
>
>>> Don't you love global warming?
>
>> (While climate change is a certainty, _anthropogenic_ climate change
>> is still a theory, with little science supporting it).
>
>Climate change may be a certainty, but it doesn't seem clear if the
>climate is getting warmer or colder.
True enough. Or whether the warming or cooling is part of a long term trend or
not. Or whether humans are causing it.
> It wasn't all that long ago the
>left wing socialist bastards were wringing their collective hands about
>global cooling.
But therein lies the problem. Whether those things are occurring or not is a
scientific question, not a political one. If a right wing fascist bastard says
it is happening (or not), is that a better answer than if a left wing socialist
bastard says so? I hope not.
What to do about it, if anything, is a political question. But not whether it
is happening. It is a damn shame that the left and right have polarized on
that issue. That is not a route to the truth, whatever the truth may be.
-- Doug
J. Clarke wrote:
> Andrew Barss wrote:
>> HeyBub <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Scott Lurndal wrote:
>>>>
>>>> (While climate change is a certainty, _anthropogenic_ climate
>>>> change is still a theory, with little science supporting it).
>>
>>> In science, "theory" is virtually fact, as in The Theory of
>>> Universal Gravitation or the Theory of Electricity or the Theory of
>>> Evolution. With about 1% more certainty, a scientific "theory" can
>>> get promoted to "Law" as in the Law of Conservation of Energy or
>>> Law of Thermodynamics.
>>
>> No.
>
> To what, specifically, are you taking exception?
>
I object to the use of the word "theory" in a scientific context when what
is meant is "conjecture."
Anthropomorphic climate change is a wild-ass guess, not a scientific theory.
"Martin H. Eastburn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> These are tropical storms. Better them than Hurricanes.
> Martin
That is certianly true except for the topical storm that hit Houston in
2001. The rain, the 37" in 2 weeks of rain, was worse than hurricane Ike
that hit here last year. But mostly tropical storms are better than
hurricanes.
[email protected] wrote:
> On Sep 23, 10:19 am, "HeyBub" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Leon wrote:
>>
>>> A significant contribution to global warming is all the hot air from
>>> polititians and their "global warming" contributors that will make
>>> untold profits from this latest scam.
>>> Apparently the reason that the Arctic is loosing glaciers is because
>>> they are melting from the "ground side/bottom" Greenland, not far
>>> from that region is virtually a hot bed of under ground volcanic
>>> like activity that normally takes place on the ocean floor but
>>> comes to the surface there.
>>> If there were not a way to make major money off of global warming
>>> you would not hear another word on the subject.
>>
>> If you mean the "government" makes money, I'd agree. Obsequence to
>> the global warming god costs the rest of us.
>
> Come on. Now more than ever, government makes money the old fashioned
> way; they print it.
Well, yeah. When you're right, you're right. I stand corrected.
Martin H. Eastburn wrote:
> These are tropical storms. Better them than Hurricanes.
Not remotely true ... In 66 years of living on the Gulf Coast through
many hurricanes, the only home I ever lost was to "Tropical Storm
Allison" on June 9, 2001.
--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 10/22/08
KarlC@ (the obvious)
These are tropical storms. Better them than Hurricanes.
Martin
basilisk wrote:
> "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Take your choice:
>>
>> Floods in the south east, especially around Atlanta
>> or
>> Another wild fire in SoCal.
>>
>> 8,500 acres, less than 6% relative humidity, 6,000 firefighters.
>>
>> Fortunately no deaths here in SoCal, unlike the SE.
>>
>> Either way, Mother Nature can be a bitch.
>>
>> Take care of yourself out there.
>>
>> Lew
>>
>>
> Yep,
>
> We now have an official monsoon season in Al,
> some spots have had 12 inches since Saturday
> with more promised.
>
> Odd weather, it usually rains very little in August and
> September(unless there's a hurricane) and I can't remember
> the last time I stepped on dry ground.
>
> basilisk
>
>
In article <[email protected]>, jbstein2
@comcast.net says...
> Also, not one fucking hurricane hit Florida this year, or if it did, I
> didn't notice it... so much for global warming causing hurricanes, like
> the left wing socialist bastards were claiming when NO got smacked.
>
> Also Also, I heard somewhere recently that the ice sheets somewhere that
> were receding do to global warming are now growing, I'm sure due to
> global warming.
>
> About the only thing I know about global warming is so many left wing
> socialist bastards have their collective heads up their ass where the
> sun don't shine, they are probably more responsible for heading off (no
> pun intended) global warming than they could imagine...
If you don't question the sources you want to believe then you have no
right questioning the sources you don't want to believe.
The weather is not the climate. Hurricanes are weather. Hurricanes exist
within the climate. They're big, but not that big.
Weather is not uniform and there are effects that will happen somewhere
that seem to deny the measurements, they are interesting but have to be
considered within the whole.
There are people who have vested interests in trying to confuse the
issue. The oil companies have hired the "scientists" that the Tobacco
industry used to abuse and confuse the evidence. (Do keep this in mind.)
--Your household economy involves a number of expenses. If your car
insurance goes down a little while all your other expenses consistently
rose 5% (compounded) a month you would soon realize that the car
insurance is an isolated issue and meaningless in the bigger picture.
And the hazy facts you bring up are meaningless in the big picture.
This isn't about socialism... It's about life and quality of life. And
it's also about economics and competition.
For instance, China sees the potential of embarrassing and pulling an
economic end run around the USA in particular /and/ the rest of the
world in the development of solar and wind power. Essentially killing
two birds with one stone.
If you do not see need to be competitive with them....
Elrond Hubbard wrote:
> "HeyBub" <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> Scott Lurndal wrote:
>>>
>>> (While climate change is a certainty, _anthropogenic_ climate change
>>> is still a theory, with little science supporting it).
>>
>> In science, "theory" is virtually fact, as in The Theory of Universal
>> Gravitation or the Theory of Electricity or the Theory of Evolution.
>> With about 1% more certainty, a scientific "theory" can get promoted
>> to "Law" as in the Law of Conservation of Energy or Law of
>> Thermodynamics.
>>
>> In vulgar usage, "theory" means conjecture, guess, hypothesis,
>> possibility.
>>
>> That's why when a religious person says: "Evolution is a theory!" and
>> the scientist replies, "Uh, yeah, that's right," they are using the
>> same word to mean two different things.
>>
>
> Thanks for the lesson.
>
> You are in danger of surpassing Doug Miller as the wreck's most
> tiresome pedant.
Thanks for the kind words of encouragement. I only need 1% more...
J. Clarke wrote:
> HeyBub wrote:
>> J. Clarke wrote:
>>> Andrew Barss wrote:
>>>> HeyBub <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> Scott Lurndal wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (While climate change is a certainty, _anthropogenic_ climate
>>>>>> change is still a theory, with little science supporting it).
>>>>
>>>>> In science, "theory" is virtually fact, as in The Theory of
>>>>> Universal Gravitation or the Theory of Electricity or the Theory
>>>>> of Evolution. With about 1% more certainty, a scientific "theory"
>>>>> can get promoted to "Law" as in the Law of Conservation of Energy
>>>>> or Law of Thermodynamics.
>>>>
>>>> No.
>>>
>>> To what, specifically, are you taking exception?
>>>
>>
>> I object to the use of the word "theory" in a scientific context when
>> what is meant is "conjecture."
>>
>> Anthropomorphic climate change is a wild-ass guess, not a scientific
>> theory.
>
> If you read the attributions above and apply a modicum of logic it
> should occur to you that I was asking Andrew Barss to what,
> specifically, his "no" above referred since it was not clear from
> context. I fail to see how _your_ telling me to what _you_ object
> sheds any light on the matter of what, specifically, _he_ was
> questioning.
It's called (using scientific terminology here) The Buttinsky Paradox.
"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Take your choice:
>
> Floods in the south east, especially around Atlanta
> or
> Another wild fire in SoCal.
>
> 8,500 acres, less than 6% relative humidity, 6,000 firefighters.
>
> Fortunately no deaths here in SoCal, unlike the SE.
>
> Either way, Mother Nature can be a bitch.
>
> Take care of yourself out there.
>
> Lew
A local morning news team was chit chatting about the fact that California
is dry and having major fires and by comparison they use Georgia and say
that they don't need the rain. More of the Let's take things out of context
and make it sound sensational mentality. Georgia was in desperate need of
rain to help curb a 2 year drought.
Scott Lurndal wrote:
>
> (While climate change is a certainty, _anthropogenic_ climate change
> is still a theory, with little science supporting it).
In science, "theory" is virtually fact, as in The Theory of Universal
Gravitation or the Theory of Electricity or the Theory of Evolution. With
about 1% more certainty, a scientific "theory" can get promoted to "Law" as
in the Law of Conservation of Energy or Law of Thermodynamics.
In vulgar usage, "theory" means conjecture, guess, hypothesis, possibility.
That's why when a religious person says: "Evolution is a theory!" and the
scientist replies, "Uh, yeah, that's right," they are using the same word to
mean two different things.
"HeyBub" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> Scott Lurndal wrote:
>>
>> (While climate change is a certainty, _anthropogenic_ climate change
>> is still a theory, with little science supporting it).
>
> In science, "theory" is virtually fact, as in The Theory of Universal
> Gravitation or the Theory of Electricity or the Theory of Evolution.
> With about 1% more certainty, a scientific "theory" can get promoted
> to "Law" as in the Law of Conservation of Energy or Law of
> Thermodynamics.
>
> In vulgar usage, "theory" means conjecture, guess, hypothesis,
> possibility.
>
> That's why when a religious person says: "Evolution is a theory!" and
> the scientist replies, "Uh, yeah, that's right," they are using the
> same word to mean two different things.
>
Thanks for the lesson.
You are in danger of surpassing Doug Miller as the wreck's most tiresome
pedant.
I lost about an acre of hardwoods - laid them over and snapped off
15 feet in the air. IKE did a number on us.
Martin [ have .51" today - light rain all day. ]
Leon wrote:
> "Martin H. Eastburn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> These are tropical storms. Better them than Hurricanes.
>> Martin
>
>
> That is certianly true except for the topical storm that hit Houston in
> 2001. The rain, the 37" in 2 weeks of rain, was worse than hurricane Ike
> that hit here last year. But mostly tropical storms are better than
> hurricanes.
>
>
"Keith Nuttle" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>>
> Don't you love global warming?
>
> The president gets up before the UN and talks about the global warming and
> the mid section of his country is experiencing the coldest summer in over
> 100 years. Talks about global warming caused drought, and the southeastern
> part of his country is under several feet of water.
>
> Maybe it is in the virtual world of his computer. I wish he would get off
> of his computer and look at the 90% of the country he represents.
A significant contribution to global warming is all the hot air from
polititians and their "global warming" contributors that will make untold
profits from this latest scam.
Apparently the reason that the Arctic is loosing glaciers is because they
are melting from the "ground side/bottom" Greenland, not far from that
region is virtually a hot bed of under ground volcanic like activity that
normally takes place on the ocean floor but comes to the surface there.
If there were not a way to make major money off of global warming you would
not hear another word on the subject.
Lew Hodgett wrote:
> Take your choice:
>
> Floods in the south east, especially around Atlanta
> or
> Another wild fire in SoCal.
>
> 8,500 acres, less than 6% relative humidity, 6,000 firefighters.
>
> Fortunately no deaths here in SoCal, unlike the SE.
>
> Either way, Mother Nature can be a bitch.
>
> Take care of yourself out there.
>
> Lew
>
>
>
Don't you love global warming?
The president gets up before the UN and talks about the global warming
and the mid section of his country is experiencing the coldest summer in
over 100 years. Talks about global warming caused drought, and the
southeastern part of his country is under several feet of water.
Maybe it is in the virtual world of his computer. I wish he would get
off of his computer and look at the 90% of the country he represents.
"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Take your choice:
>
> Floods in the south east, especially around Atlanta
> or
> Another wild fire in SoCal.
>
> 8,500 acres, less than 6% relative humidity, 6,000 firefighters.
>
> Fortunately no deaths here in SoCal, unlike the SE.
>
> Either way, Mother Nature can be a bitch.
>
> Take care of yourself out there.
>
> Lew
>
>
Yep,
We now have an official monsoon season in Al,
some spots have had 12 inches since Saturday
with more promised.
Odd weather, it usually rains very little in August and
September(unless there's a hurricane) and I can't remember
the last time I stepped on dry ground.
basilisk
Scott Lurndal wrote:
>> Don't you love global warming?
> (While climate change is a certainty, _anthropogenic_ climate change
> is still a theory, with little science supporting it).
Climate change may be a certainty, but it doesn't seem clear if the
climate is getting warmer or colder. It wasn't all that long ago the
left wing socialist bastards were wringing their collective hands about
global cooling. Now they not only are wringing their collective hands
about global warming, but they blame the cool weather on global warming.
Also, not one fucking hurricane hit Florida this year, or if it did, I
didn't notice it... so much for global warming causing hurricanes, like
the left wing socialist bastards were claiming when NO got smacked.
Also Also, I heard somewhere recently that the ice sheets somewhere that
were receding do to global warming are now growing, I'm sure due to
global warming.
About the only thing I know about global warming is so many left wing
socialist bastards have their collective heads up their ass where the
sun don't shine, they are probably more responsible for heading off (no
pun intended) global warming than they could imagine...
--
Jack
Got Change: Global Warming =====> Global Stupidity!
http://jbstein.com
HeyBub <[email protected]> wrote:
: Scott Lurndal wrote:
:>
:> (While climate change is a certainty, _anthropogenic_ climate change
:> is still a theory, with little science supporting it).
: In science, "theory" is virtually fact, as in The Theory of Universal
: Gravitation or the Theory of Electricity or the Theory of Evolution. With
: about 1% more certainty, a scientific "theory" can get promoted to "Law" as
: in the Law of Conservation of Energy or Law of Thermodynamics.
No.
: In vulgar usage, "theory" means conjecture, guess, hypothesis, possibility.
More like "unsubstantiated wild-assed guess". At least as the right
wingers use the term.
: That's why when a religious person says: "Evolution is a theory!" and the
: scientist replies, "Uh, yeah, that's right," they are using the same word to
: mean two different things.
That's correct, unfortunately.
-- Andy Barss
Andrew Barss wrote:
> HeyBub <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Scott Lurndal wrote:
>>>
>>> (While climate change is a certainty, _anthropogenic_ climate change
>>> is still a theory, with little science supporting it).
>
>> In science, "theory" is virtually fact, as in The Theory of Universal
>> Gravitation or the Theory of Electricity or the Theory of Evolution.
>> With about 1% more certainty, a scientific "theory" can get promoted
>> to "Law" as in the Law of Conservation of Energy or Law of
>> Thermodynamics.
>
> No.
To what, specifically, are you taking exception?
>> In vulgar usage, "theory" means conjecture, guess, hypothesis,
>> possibility.
>
> More like "unsubstantiated wild-assed guess". At least as the right
> wingers use the term.
>
>> That's why when a religious person says: "Evolution is a theory!"
>> and the scientist replies, "Uh, yeah, that's right," they are using
>> the same word to mean two different things.
>
> That's correct, unfortunately.
>
> -- Andy Barss
HeyBub wrote:
> J. Clarke wrote:
>> Andrew Barss wrote:
>>> HeyBub <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Scott Lurndal wrote:
>>>>> (While climate change is a certainty, _anthropogenic_ climate
>>>>> change is still a theory, with little science supporting it).
>>>> In science, "theory" is virtually fact, as in The Theory of
>>>> Universal Gravitation or the Theory of Electricity or the Theory of
>>>> Evolution. With about 1% more certainty, a scientific "theory" can
>>>> get promoted to "Law" as in the Law of Conservation of Energy or
>>>> Law of Thermodynamics.
>>> No.
>> To what, specifically, are you taking exception?
>>
>
> I object to the use of the word "theory" in a scientific context when what
> is meant is "conjecture."
>
> Anthropomorphic climate change is a wild-ass guess, not a scientific theory.
...
That would be "hypothesis"...
--
HeyBub wrote:
> J. Clarke wrote:
>> Andrew Barss wrote:
>>> HeyBub <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Scott Lurndal wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> (While climate change is a certainty, _anthropogenic_ climate
>>>>> change is still a theory, with little science supporting it).
>>>
>>>> In science, "theory" is virtually fact, as in The Theory of
>>>> Universal Gravitation or the Theory of Electricity or the Theory of
>>>> Evolution. With about 1% more certainty, a scientific "theory" can
>>>> get promoted to "Law" as in the Law of Conservation of Energy or
>>>> Law of Thermodynamics.
>>>
>>> No.
>>
>> To what, specifically, are you taking exception?
>>
>
> I object to the use of the word "theory" in a scientific context when
> what is meant is "conjecture."
>
> Anthropomorphic climate change is a wild-ass guess, not a scientific
> theory.
If you read the attributions above and apply a modicum of logic it should
occur to you that I was asking Andrew Barss to what, specifically, his "no"
above referred since it was not clear from context. I fail to see how
_your_ telling me to what _you_ object sheds any light on the matter of
what, specifically, _he_ was questioning.
Douglas Johnson wrote:
> Jack Stein <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Climate change may be a certainty, but it doesn't seem clear if the
>> climate is getting warmer or colder.
> True enough. Or whether the warming or cooling is part of a long term trend or
> not. Or whether humans are causing it.
>> It wasn't all that long ago the
>> left wing socialist bastards were wringing their collective hands about
>> global cooling.
> But therein lies the problem. Whether those things are occurring or not is a
> scientific question, not a political one.
The question may be scientific, but the answers we are guiding our
economic lives by have been political.
> What to do about it, if anything, is a political question.
Yeah, and taking drastic measures to change something that you don't
even know is happening, or the opposite is happening, or much of
anything is happening is political, left wing, socialist bastard
political. Seems the political goal is to stifle the wildly successful
capitalist economy of the US.
> But not whether it
> is happening. It is a damn shame that the left and right have polarized on
> that issue. That is not a route to the truth, whatever the truth may be.
It's just part of life when you suffer with a left wing controlled
media. Their constant lies and left wing propaganda might destroy them
as about no one believes a word they say anymore. There could be a
light at the end of the tunnel, or it could be the socialist propaganda
train coming to stomp all over free speech.
--
Jack
Using FREE News Server: http://www.eternal-september.org/
http://jbstein.com
On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 08:33:37 -0400, Keith Nuttle
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Lew Hodgett wrote:
>> Take your choice:
>>
>> Floods in the south east, especially around Atlanta
>> or
>> Another wild fire in SoCal.
>>
>> 8,500 acres, less than 6% relative humidity, 6,000 firefighters.
>>
>> Fortunately no deaths here in SoCal, unlike the SE.
>>
>> Either way, Mother Nature can be a bitch.
>>
>> Take care of yourself out there.
>>
>> Lew
>>
>>
>>
>Don't you love global warming?
>
>The president gets up before the UN and talks about the global warming
>and the mid section of his country is experiencing the coldest summer in
>over 100 years. Talks about global warming caused drought, and the
>southeastern part of his country is under several feet of water.
>
>Maybe it is in the virtual world of his computer. I wish he would get
>off of his computer and look at the 90% of the country he represents.
I am disbelieving more and more what he says. Sun spots and solar
flares can effect our climate/weather in short order and there's not
much we can do about it. It's not "Global Warming" anymore, it's
"Global Change." "Change we can believe in." He wins the
Presidential Award for Fiscal Irresponsibility.
Leon wrote:
>
>
> A significant contribution to global warming is all the hot air from
> polititians and their "global warming" contributors that will make
> untold profits from this latest scam.
> Apparently the reason that the Arctic is loosing glaciers is because
> they are melting from the "ground side/bottom" Greenland, not far
> from that region is virtually a hot bed of under ground volcanic like
> activity that normally takes place on the ocean floor but comes to
> the surface there.
> If there were not a way to make major money off of global warming you
> would not hear another word on the subject.
If you mean the "government" makes money, I'd agree. Obsequence to the
global warming god costs the rest of us.
On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 23:09:41 -0700, "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote:
I'll choose Baja, Lew..
Just sun and sand with humidity...
>Take your choice:
>
>Floods in the south east, especially around Atlanta
>or
>Another wild fire in SoCal.
>
>8,500 acres, less than 6% relative humidity, 6,000 firefighters.
>
>Fortunately no deaths here in SoCal, unlike the SE.
>
>Either way, Mother Nature can be a bitch.
>
>Take care of yourself out there.
>
>Lew
>
>
mac
Please remove splinters before emailing
Robatoy wrote:
> On Sep 24, 10:04 am, dpb <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Lee Michaels wrote:
>>
>> ...
>>
>>> Is it Mother Nature? Or is it poop? Apparently one big fire was caused by
>>> spontaneous combustion of a manure pile.
>> ...
>>
>> Nothing much more natural than that... :)
>>
>
>
> Tell that to my wife.
>
Makes mental note not to go in Rob's backyard.
;-)
--
Froz...
I've survived Typhoons that were hundreds of miles across and
kicking up rain like nothing around here. Hurricanes slam the
entire Gulf coast as well as the Atlantic coast - up to Cape Cod.
Carla years ago comes to mind often. It wasn't near us but slammed
Mississippi and Alabama as I recall.
Loosing a home is one thing. Loosing 80 to 100 trees and limbs smaller
than 3" with the now junk strewn across acres of grass and tree.
That is a lot of work to do and a good deal of stress.
Lot of home are flooded, mudded instead or as well.
We lost a great amount of National Forest and other ill effects.
Martin
Swingman wrote:
> Martin H. Eastburn wrote:
>> These are tropical storms. Better them than Hurricanes.
>
> Not remotely true ... In 66 years of living on the Gulf Coast through
> many hurricanes, the only home I ever lost was to "Tropical Storm
> Allison" on June 9, 2001.
>