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"Terry Cano"

30/07/2004 9:11 PM

Rand


has anyone heard of Rand tools?
what is the quality

Terry


This topic has 29 replies

Rr

"RonB"

in reply to "Terry Cano" on 30/07/2004 9:11 PM

30/07/2004 8:47 PM

I love it! Clear, accurate, to the point.

What WERE we talking about - I forgot.



"Lawrence L'Hote" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:10BOc.199550$JR4.30196@attbi_s54...
>
> "Terry Cano" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > has anyone heard of Rand tools?
> > what is the quality
>
> AAAHHHH yes indeed, my good man. Born right here in Missouri. Quality???
> Seemed okay to me.
> http://www.exoticworldusa.org/hallfame/sally.shtml
> Appeared right here at the Boone County Fair...sheriff closed down her
show,
> however, because he said," she left too little to the imagination."
>
> Larry
>
>

LL

"Lawrence L'Hote"

in reply to "Terry Cano" on 30/07/2004 9:11 PM

30/07/2004 11:40 PM


"Terry Cano" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> has anyone heard of Rand tools?
> what is the quality

AAAHHHH yes indeed, my good man. Born right here in Missouri. Quality???
Seemed okay to me.
http://www.exoticworldusa.org/hallfame/sally.shtml
Appeared right here at the Boone County Fair...sheriff closed down her show,
however, because he said," she left too little to the imagination."

Larry

b

in reply to "Terry Cano" on 30/07/2004 9:11 PM

31/07/2004 2:34 PM

On Sat, 31 Jul 2004 17:55:46 GMT, "Terry Cano" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
>The name and tool, band saw, came up when doing a search on EBay.
>I'd never heard of the company. It turns out they also make some other
>stuff.
>Some of the specs looked good...but it is hard to tell in the pictures
>Terry
>



generic chinese bottom end stuff. you're probably better off buying
that kind of equipment from harbor freight. not that the tools will be
better, but at least there is somebody there for you to return it to
for warranty processing when it explodes....

BR

Bill Rogers

in reply to "Terry Cano" on 30/07/2004 9:11 PM

30/07/2004 7:47 PM

On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 18:14:46 -0400, "J. Clarke"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>George wrote:
>
>> Then there was Remington-Rand. Office machines.
>
>Unrelated company though. Ingersoll-Rand dates back to the 1870s and was
>always an air-tool company, the result of the merger of Ingersoll Rock
>Drill with the Rand & Waring Drill & Compressor Company in 1905.

Amazing! I didn't know they were made of wood though.

Bill.

pc

"patrick conroy"

in reply to "Terry Cano" on 30/07/2004 9:11 PM

02/08/2004 8:25 PM


DurRand, DuRand?


Gg

"George"

in reply to "Terry Cano" on 30/07/2004 9:11 PM

30/07/2004 5:49 PM

Then there was Remington-Rand. Office machines.

"RonB" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:TazOc.223$wC3.177@okepread07...
> Terry - What kind of tools?
>
> Rand or Ingersoll Rand (http://www.irtools.com/index.asp) sells a whole
host
> of industrial and automotive tools including compressors, air and impact
> tools and accessories, construction equipment, etc. With regard to
> woodworking they are probably best known for compressors, sanding and
> finishing equipment.
>
> I believe there was a Rand predecessor to the Ingersoll Rand brands but
> cannot remember what they offered - Anyone else??
>
>
>
> "Terry Cano" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > has anyone heard of Rand tools?
> > what is the quality
> >
> > Terry
> >
> >
>
>

Gg

"George"

in reply to "Terry Cano" on 30/07/2004 9:11 PM

31/07/2004 8:59 AM

Companies seem to buy and sell each other at such a rate, swapping names,
stock and management, and making whatever makes bucks, almost any seems
possible.

I still remember an assigned M-1, manufactured by Rock-Ola, which was
immediately right, in the rack, of an IBM....

"Unisaw A100" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> >Remington-Rand
> >Ingersoll-Rand
> >Rand & Waring Drill & Compressor Company
> >Rand Kardex

TC

"Terry Cano"

in reply to "Terry Cano" on 30/07/2004 9:11 PM

31/07/2004 5:55 PM


The name and tool, band saw, came up when doing a search on EBay.
I'd never heard of the company. It turns out they also make some other
stuff.
Some of the specs looked good...but it is hard to tell in the pictures
Terry

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to "Terry Cano" on 30/07/2004 9:11 PM

31/07/2004 1:46 PM

Also a verb,

I got a new car and Rand the wheels off it.



lL

[email protected] (Lawrence Wasserman)

in reply to "Terry Cano" on 30/07/2004 9:11 PM

02/08/2004 3:29 PM

I think the OP is talking about the cheap Chinese "Rand" tools that
are often peddled on ebay. If so, you can get the same level of
quality (some would say lack of quality) for less money from Harbor
Freight.


--

Larry Wasserman Baltimore, Maryland
[email protected]

Rr

"RonB"

in reply to "Terry Cano" on 30/07/2004 9:11 PM

30/07/2004 4:35 PM

Terry - What kind of tools?

Rand or Ingersoll Rand (http://www.irtools.com/index.asp) sells a whole host
of industrial and automotive tools including compressors, air and impact
tools and accessories, construction equipment, etc. With regard to
woodworking they are probably best known for compressors, sanding and
finishing equipment.

I believe there was a Rand predecessor to the Ingersoll Rand brands but
cannot remember what they offered - Anyone else??



"Terry Cano" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> has anyone heard of Rand tools?
> what is the quality
>
> Terry
>
>

dD

[email protected] (Dan Cullimore)

in reply to "Terry Cano" on 30/07/2004 9:11 PM

01/08/2004 9:04 PM

"Lawrence L'Hote" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<10BOc.199550$JR4.30196@attbi_s54>...
> "Terry Cano" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > has anyone heard of Rand tools?
> > what is the quality
>
> AAAHHHH yes indeed, my good man. Born right here in Missouri. Quality???
> Seemed okay to me.
> http://www.exoticworldusa.org/hallfame/sally.shtml
> Appeared right here at the Boone County Fair...sheriff closed down her show,
> however, because he said," she left too little to the imagination."
>
> Larry

You in little ol' Boone County, Larry? Give me a hoot, we could be neighbors.

Dan

JC

"J. Clarke"

in reply to "Terry Cano" on 30/07/2004 9:11 PM

30/07/2004 6:14 PM

George wrote:

> Then there was Remington-Rand. Office machines.

Unrelated company though. Ingersoll-Rand dates back to the 1870s and was
always an air-tool company, the result of the merger of Ingersoll Rock
Drill with the Rand & Waring Drill & Compressor Company in 1905.
Remington-Rand dates to the 1920s and results from the merger of Remington
Typewriter with Rand Kardex.



> "RonB" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:TazOc.223$wC3.177@okepread07...
>> Terry - What kind of tools?
>>
>> Rand or Ingersoll Rand (http://www.irtools.com/index.asp) sells a whole
> host
>> of industrial and automotive tools including compressors, air and impact
>> tools and accessories, construction equipment, etc. With regard to
>> woodworking they are probably best known for compressors, sanding and
>> finishing equipment.
>>
>> I believe there was a Rand predecessor to the Ingersoll Rand brands but
>> cannot remember what they offered - Anyone else??
>>
>>
>>
>> "Terry Cano" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>> >
>> > has anyone heard of Rand tools?
>> > what is the quality
>> >
>> > Terry
>> >
>> >
>>
>>

--
--John
Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

JC

"J. Clarke"

in reply to "Terry Cano" on 30/07/2004 9:11 PM

31/07/2004 2:45 PM

Terry Cano wrote:

>
> The name and tool, band saw, came up when doing a search on EBay.
> I'd never heard of the company. It turns out they also make some other
> stuff.
> Some of the specs looked good...but it is hard to tell in the pictures
> Terry

This appears to be yet another "rand", neither Remington- nor Ingersoll-.
I'd want to see the tool and an address for the manufacturer before I even
thought about buying.

--
--John
Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

Aa

"AArDvarK"

in reply to "Terry Cano" on 30/07/2004 9:11 PM

31/07/2004 1:19 PM


> has anyone heard of Rand tools?
> what is the quality > Terry


A while back it is the scroll saw that had me searching the 'net for a
maker's website but I found nothing and no link or reference on the
IR site, so.... I would not doubt that IR is controlling production
of these tools in China, who knows. No doubt an email to IR and
these sellers will reveal something. It all LOOKS like decent tools...
it don't tell nuthin'.

...hope this helps,
Alex

suncoastdeals:
http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&userid=suncoastdeals&include=0&since=-1&sort=3&rows=50
summitcentral:
http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&userid=summitcentral&include=0&since=-1&sort=3&rows=50

metal cutting band saw
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4316305416
cement mixer (non WW)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4316305445
2" brad nailer
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4316305532
drill press
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4316305412
10" wet tile saw (non WW)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4316305403
portable tile / stone saw (non WW)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4315771444
37"x12" wood lathe
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4316305356
8 pc. wood lathe turning tool set
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4316305593
14" cut-off saw
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4316305037
air crown staple gun
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4316305012
6" wood jointer
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4316305007
12 1/2" thickness planer
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4316304645
16" scroll saw
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4316304637
small bandsaw (?")
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4316304573
mortising machine
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4316304320
24 volt cordless hammer drill
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4316304298
tire inflator gun with dial gauge (non WW)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4316304677
12V electric winch 6000lb. (possibly WW)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4315573259

cC

[email protected] (Charlie Self)

in reply to "AArDvarK" on 31/07/2004 1:19 PM

31/07/2004 9:33 PM

AArDvarK writes:


>A while back it is the scroll saw that had me searching the 'net for a
>maker's website but I found nothing and no link or reference on the
>IR site, so.... I would not doubt that IR is controlling production
>of these tools in China, who knows. No doubt an email to IR and
>these sellers will reveal something. It all LOOKS like decent tools...
>it don't tell nuthin'.

You found no reference to the tools on the IR site, so you don't doubt IR is
controlling production of the tools?

I see no evidence at all the Ingersoll-Rand has anything to do with these
tools, just as you do. But it leads me to believe that some entrepreneurial
type is looking to make a buck or six off the latest brand name from China, not
that IR is involved.

Charlie Self
"Democracy is a process by which people are free to choose the man who will get
the blame." Laurence J. Peter

Aa

"AArDvarK"

in reply to "AArDvarK" on 31/07/2004 1:19 PM

31/07/2004 3:59 PM

... then I am rich. richy-rich indeed. Why not you ask IR and tell the group?
I don't feel like typing them an email, I do enough typing in this group and
your sarcasm is undesirable to me. you prove absolutely nothing, especially
in your understanding of the possibility of giant corporate business doings.
What it takes is the genuine understanding of the size in population of the
USA alone, over 270 million people and there is no reason IR would not be
doing it considering massive financial resourses unless they they simply ...

"aren't"

are YOU there yet?

Alex

Aa

"AArDvarK"

in reply to "AArDvarK" on 31/07/2004 1:19 PM

31/07/2004 2:52 PM

> You found no reference to the tools on the IR site, so you don't doubt IR is
> controlling production of the tools?
> I see no evidence at all the Ingersoll-Rand has anything to do with these
> tools, just as you do. But it leads me to believe that some entrepreneurial
> type is looking to make a buck or six off the latest brand name from China, not
> that IR is involved.

Well NO SHIT man... that's exactly what I said in my last sentence. Take a look.
But it also means IR COULD be doing it, just not saying anything about it. I
think some bigger companies do that.

Remember? "It don't tell nuthin' "

Alex

pc

"patrick conroy"

in reply to "AArDvarK" on 31/07/2004 1:19 PM

02/08/2004 8:25 PM


"AArDvarK" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:7vVOc.6445$Xn.3382@fed1read05...

> USA alone, over 270 million people and there is no reason IR would not be
> doing it considering massive financial resourses unless they they simply
...

They invented 100 MPG carburetor too.

BS

Bill Schnakenberg

in reply to "patrick conroy" on 02/08/2004 8:25 PM

02/08/2004 4:50 PM

Charlie Self wrote:

>Patrick Conroy notes:
>
>
>
>>"AArDvarK" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:7vVOc.6445$Xn.3382@fed1read05...
>>
>>
>>
>>>USA alone, over 270 million people and there is no reason IR would not be
>>>doing it considering massive financial resourses unless they they simply
>>>
>>>
>>...
>>
>>They invented 100 MPG carburetor too.
>>
>>
>
>Yup. And then hid it from the public so no one would go broke selling gas. And
>Self Magazine is mine because my last name is the same as the mag logo.
>
>Charlie Self
>"Give me golf clubs, fresh air and a beautiful partner, and you can keep the
>clubs and the fresh air." Jack Benny
>
>
Yeah, but... Charlie,
They all worked. I bought every one of those gas saving devices and I
had to stop every 100 miles to siphon out the overflow of gas in the tank.

cC

[email protected] (Charlie Self)

in reply to Bill Schnakenberg on 02/08/2004 4:50 PM

02/08/2004 9:48 PM

Bill Schnakenberg responds:

>>
>>Yup. And then hid it from the public so no one would go broke selling gas.
>And
>>Self Magazine is mine because my last name is the same as the mag logo.
>>
>>Charlie Self
>>"Give me golf clubs, fresh air and a beautiful partner, and you can keep the
>>clubs and the fresh air." Jack Benny
>>
>>
>Yeah, but... Charlie,
>They all worked. I bought every one of those gas saving devices and I
>had to stop every 100 miles to siphon out the overflow of gas in the tank.
>

I hope you carried enough extra gas cans. You need your own meter so you can
re-sell the overflow.

Charlie Self
"Give me golf clubs, fresh air and a beautiful partner, and you can keep the
clubs and the fresh air." Jack Benny

cC

[email protected] (Charlie Self)

in reply to "patrick conroy" on 02/08/2004 8:25 PM

02/08/2004 8:33 PM

Patrick Conroy notes:

>"AArDvarK" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:7vVOc.6445$Xn.3382@fed1read05...
>
>> USA alone, over 270 million people and there is no reason IR would not be
>> doing it considering massive financial resourses unless they they simply
>...
>
>They invented 100 MPG carburetor too.

Yup. And then hid it from the public so no one would go broke selling gas. And
Self Magazine is mine because my last name is the same as the mag logo.

Charlie Self
"Give me golf clubs, fresh air and a beautiful partner, and you can keep the
clubs and the fresh air." Jack Benny

UA

Unisaw A100

in reply to "AArDvarK" on 31/07/2004 1:19 PM

01/08/2004 2:41 AM

Ah yes. Purple.

UA100

cC

[email protected] (Charlie Self)

in reply to Unisaw A100 on 01/08/2004 2:41 AM

01/08/2004 9:30 AM

UA100 writes:

>Ah yes. Purple.

Oops. I thought it was Lichtenstein.

Charlie Self
"Democracy is a process by which people are free to choose the man who will get
the blame." Laurence J. Peter

UA

Unisaw A100

in reply to "AArDvarK" on 31/07/2004 1:19 PM

31/07/2004 10:37 PM

AArDvarK wrote:
>Well NO SHIT man... that's exactly what I said in my last sentence. Take a look.
>But it also means IR COULD be doing it, just not saying anything about it. I
>think some bigger companies do that.


Oh man! How thick do you have to be?

Listen up.



China, is found on a map.



Maps, are made by Rand McNally.



Are you there yet?



Seems to me you're sniffing the wrong crotch if you think
Ingersol Rand has any controlling interest in Rand
wooddorking machines when it's as plan as the face behind
your nose who is really pulling the strings over there.

UA100

dd

[email protected] (dteckie)

in reply to "Terry Cano" on 30/07/2004 9:11 PM

04/08/2004 4:27 AM

[email protected] (Lawrence Wasserman) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> I think the OP is talking about the cheap Chinese "Rand" tools that
> are often peddled on ebay. If so, you can get the same level of
> quality (some would say lack of quality) for less money from Harbor
> Freight.

I agree with Lawrence I don't think the Rand tools sold on ebay are
Ingerssol Rand brand. I shamefully purchased a Rand mini lathe, it was
very cheap price, and it performs like the price I paid. Do you hear
birds chirping??? (cheap! cheap!). They are of low quality and I only
purchased to get a feel for turning before I commit to spending big
for a quality lathe.

UA

Unisaw A100

in reply to "Terry Cano" on 30/07/2004 9:11 PM

31/07/2004 5:40 AM

>Remington-Rand
>Ingersoll-Rand
>Rand & Waring Drill & Compressor Company
>Rand Kardex
>Sally Rand


So far no one has mentioned Rand McNally
or Ayn Rand
or Randy Newman
or Dresser-Rand
or Randy Travis
or Rand-Scot Inc.
or Frederick S. Pardee Rand Graduate School
or Randy Bachman

or it could be...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=42283&item=4315802313
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=20780&item=4315803929
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=20784&item=4315804445

Move over Jet.

UA100

TV

Tom Veatch

in reply to "Terry Cano" on 30/07/2004 9:11 PM

01/08/2004 2:20 AM

On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 20:47:40 -0500, "RonB" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Clear, accurate, to the point.

????
Channel 3
????



Tom Veatch
Wichita, KS USA

UA

Unisaw A100

in reply to "Terry Cano" on 30/07/2004 9:11 PM

30/07/2004 4:38 PM

Terry Cano wrote:
>has anyone heard of Rand tools?

Can't swing a dead cat on eBay without numerous hits coming
up.

>what is the quality

Probably in line with the price you pay.

UA100


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