On Oct 25, 3:23=A0pm, Larry Jaques <[email protected]>
wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 14:08:26 -0400, [email protected] wrote:
> >On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 18:11:26 -0700, Larry Jaques
> ><[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 14:42:08 -0400, Robatoy
> >><[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>>Hey, sometimes we do big things too.
> >>>80MW of pure power, this minute it is the world's biggest, but that
> >>>record won't stay very long.
>
> >>So, what'll it do in the GWN in the winter, under 80' of snow, hmm?
> >>What's your base power?
> > Sarnia is in the "banana belt"
> >Stratford would be a different story
> >Or Chesley
>
> That means what? There's only 50' of snow in the banana belt in the
> winter? =A0Looked it up: =A0about 48" of snow there.
> Banana belt my arse! =A0<brrrrrr>
>
Snow doesn't mean extreme cold. Did you look at the average temp?
Besides, 48" over 4 months is nothing considering there are thaws in
between.
You want to talk snow? Talk to jo4hn.
On Oct 24, 4:48=A0pm, Dan Coby <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 10/24/2010 11:42 AM, Robatoy wrote:
>
> > Hey, sometimes we do big things too.
> > 80MW of pure power, this minute it is the world's biggest, but that
> > record won't stay very long.
>
> > Oh, and it is spelled solAr, not solEr....so keep your spelling-nazi
> > shirt on, C-less...<G>
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DOCliiDZiSSE
>
> Where at in Sarnia? =A0I was curious about how area it covered. =A0I look=
ed on
> the satellite view on Google/maps but I could not find it.
Just checked Earth, not there yet.
The location is at Plank Rd & Churchill Line, sometimes called
Lucasville,ON
Now you will see a racing oval (I think for exercising horses) north
of Churchill and the Voltaic farm is between it and hwy 40 and all
that land north of there is covered in panels now.
This is only part of it.
On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 13:14:19 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Oct 25, 3:23 pm, Larry Jaques <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>> On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 14:08:26 -0400, [email protected] wrote:
>> >On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 18:11:26 -0700, Larry Jaques
>> ><[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >>On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 14:42:08 -0400, Robatoy
>> >><[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >>>Hey, sometimes we do big things too.
>> >>>80MW of pure power, this minute it is the world's biggest, but that
>> >>>record won't stay very long.
>>
>> >>So, what'll it do in the GWN in the winter, under 80' of snow, hmm?
>> >>What's your base power?
>> > Sarnia is in the "banana belt"
>> >Stratford would be a different story
>> >Or Chesley
>>
>> That means what? There's only 50' of snow in the banana belt in the
>> winter? Looked it up: about 48" of snow there.
>> Banana belt my arse! <brrrrrr>
>>
>Snow doesn't mean extreme cold. Did you look at the average temp?
>Besides, 48" over 4 months is nothing considering there are thaws in
>between.
>You want to talk snow? Talk to jo4hn.
I'd be willing to bet that I could count the number of banana trees
growing in the open in Sarnia on less than one hand.
Me? I think 1" of snow is too much, once a year. Any questions?
--
Most people assume the fights are going to be the left versus the right,
but it always is the reasonable versus the jerks.
-- Jimmy Wales
"Larry Jaques" wrote:
> Me? I think 1" of snow is too much, once a year. Any questions?
------------------------------
Before coming to SoCal, I considered 50F and below as not fit for
human habitation.
After being here for awhile, I've revised that to 60F and below.
These days if I want to see snow, strand in doorway, cup of coffee in
hand, look north and see snow on the mountain tops less than 50 miles
away.
That's close enough for me.
Lew
Larry Jaques wrote:
> A friend of mine lived in Philly and traveled up to Canada often.
> He'd
> be driving in sunny weather when he hit Buffalo and the lights went
> out. Instant blizzard and lake effect snowstorm with 6' drifts in
> one
> day.
-------------------------------------
Hello snow belt where from Nov till May, you are up to your armpits in
partly cloudy.
Some days the sun even shines.
---------------------------------
> We call that "hot and muggy" here.
--------------------------------------
Pulled into Club Island in the Georgian Bay one August afternoon with
a 27C temp reading.
Dropped the hook and over the side for a swim.
As the sun dropped, had some fried pike caught the previous day washed
down with a few "Little Greenies".
Tough duty, but somebody had to do it
Lew
"Robatoy" wrote:
>From Morocco to Oz, Hawaii to Flawrida, Denmark to Alert, I have been
a few places on this here planet. Lively spring, cozy fall, manageable
short winter weather and near perfect summer weather. Enough of a
change in seasons to be interesting and well-designed/insulated
housing to do double duty in summer and in winter. Utility bills(not
including communications, cable, cells etc.) and property taxes around
3K per year.
3 minutes from sandy freshwater beaches, 3 very nice marinas, 2.5
hours from one of the greatest cities in the world and a little over
an hour to Detroit International which will take me where I want to
go. $ 50.00 train ride and I'm in Chicago.
No earthquakes, no forest fires, no floods, no tornado since 1953.
Local, excellent produce, nice people, good schools, affordable houses
($ 150K still buys something decent)
I don't expound the virtues of Sarnia because I live here, I live here
because of them.
Wanna walk the streets after midnight with a hoodie over your eyes and
your pants hanging low? We WILL take you down.
Too bad the majority of the women are ugly.... it's allllways
sumptin'....
--------------------------------
As Flip once said, "Everybody gotta be someplace".
Lew
Some days, on this mountain, the snowplow comes three times on our dead-end
little back street.
I am having culture shock from KW area.
<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
And that's a light snow in Kitchener/waterloo, and a "dusting" in
Stratford. (or Chesley/Hanover/ Mt Forest/ Molesworth area)
On Oct 24, 4:48=A0pm, Dan Coby <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 10/24/2010 11:42 AM, Robatoy wrote:
>
> > Hey, sometimes we do big things too.
> > 80MW of pure power, this minute it is the world's biggest, but that
> > record won't stay very long.
>
> > Oh, and it is spelled solAr, not solEr....so keep your spelling-nazi
> > shirt on, C-less...<G>
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DOCliiDZiSSE
>
> Where at in Sarnia? =A0I was curious about how area it covered. =A0I look=
ed on
> the satellite view on Google/maps but I could not find it.
http://www.treehugger.com/sarnia-solar-project.jpg
On Oct 26, 8:09=A0pm, [email protected] wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 11:17:01 -0700, Larry Jaques
>
>
>
>
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 21:24:54 -0400, [email protected] wrote:
>
> >>On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 12:23:41 -0700, Larry Jaques
> >><[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>>That means what? There's only 50' of snow in the banana belt in the
> >>>winter? =A0Looked it up: =A0about 48" of snow there.
> >>>Banana belt my arse! =A0<brrrrrr>
>
> >>Sarnia enjoys one of the warmest climates in Canada. Adjacent to Lake
> >>Huron, a large freshwater body, the climate is moderated year-round.
> >>Summer temperatures are a few degrees cooler than inland areas of
> >>southwestern Ontario and winter temperatures are warmer. Winters in
> >>Sarnia, unlike the rest of Canada, are short and mild with minimal
> >>snowfall. Spring comes early and summers warm temperatures remain long
> >>into the autumn. =A0
>
> >>Normal Daily Temperature and Precipitation, Sarnia, Ontario
>
> >>see:
> >>http://www.city.sarnia.on.ca/visit.asp?sectionid=3D432
>
> >>That 48" snow was a 150 year storm.
>
> >It's the average according to the stats I read at Weather.com.
> >http://www.theweathernetwork.com/statistics/precipitation/cl6127514
>
> >>Stratford gets 175 to 275 inches of snowfall per year.
> >>Sarnia gets, mabee, 32 inches - and it doesn't stay around very long.
> >>It IS the "banana belt"
>
> >OK, it may be, kiddingly, called that by you frozen northerners, and
> >only as a comparison to the double-digit sub-zero temps the rest of
> >the country has in the winter. =A0
>
> >But show me a growing banana tree anywhere in Sarnia, in the open and
> >without winter greenhousing, and I'll buy you a brand spankin' new
> >5x30 domino biscuit for your very own.
>
> =A0The only part of the chart that really means anything is the mean
> daily and median daily snow depth - given in CM. That is 8 and 9 cm in
> Jan and Feb,4 in Dec, and 2 in March. 2.5cm is one inch, so Ontario's
> Banana belt has, on the ground, a "mean average" of just over 3 inches
> of snow on the ground in the snowiest months of Jan and Feb.
...and that usually comes in one load.
On Oct 26, 2:17=A0pm, Larry Jaques <[email protected]>
wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 21:24:54 -0400, [email protected] wrote:
> >On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 12:23:41 -0700, Larry Jaques
> ><[email protected]> wrote:
> >>That means what? There's only 50' of snow in the banana belt in the
> >>winter? =A0Looked it up: =A0about 48" of snow there.
> >>Banana belt my arse! =A0<brrrrrr>
> >Sarnia enjoys one of the warmest climates in Canada. Adjacent to Lake
> >Huron, a large freshwater body, the climate is moderated year-round.
> >Summer temperatures are a few degrees cooler than inland areas of
> >southwestern Ontario and winter temperatures are warmer. Winters in
> >Sarnia, unlike the rest of Canada, are short and mild with minimal
> >snowfall. Spring comes early and summers warm temperatures remain long
> >into the autumn. =A0
>
> >Normal Daily Temperature and Precipitation, Sarnia, Ontario
>
> >see:
> >http://www.city.sarnia.on.ca/visit.asp?sectionid=3D432
>
> >That 48" snow was a 150 year storm.
>
> It's the average according to the stats I read at Weather.com.http://www.=
theweathernetwork.com/statistics/precipitation/cl6127514
>
> >Stratford gets 175 to 275 inches of snowfall per year.
> >Sarnia gets, mabee, 32 inches - and it doesn't stay around very long.
> >It IS the "banana belt"
>
> OK, it may be, kiddingly, called that by you frozen northerners, and
> only as a comparison to the double-digit sub-zero temps the rest of
> the country has in the winter. =A0
>
> But show me a growing banana tree anywhere in Sarnia, in the open and
> without winter greenhousing, and I'll buy you a brand spankin' new
> 5x30 domino biscuit for your very own.
>
Banana BELT, silly. we buy bananas and weave belts from driend banana
skins...shheeesh!
> Most people assume the fights are going to be the left versus the right,
> but it always is the reasonable versus the jerks.
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0-- Jimmy Wales
In that order.
On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 21:24:54 -0400, [email protected] wrote:
>On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 12:23:41 -0700, Larry Jaques
><[email protected]> wrote:
>>That means what? There's only 50' of snow in the banana belt in the
>>winter? Looked it up: about 48" of snow there.
>>Banana belt my arse! <brrrrrr>
>Sarnia enjoys one of the warmest climates in Canada. Adjacent to Lake
>Huron, a large freshwater body, the climate is moderated year-round.
>Summer temperatures are a few degrees cooler than inland areas of
>southwestern Ontario and winter temperatures are warmer. Winters in
>Sarnia, unlike the rest of Canada, are short and mild with minimal
>snowfall. Spring comes early and summers warm temperatures remain long
>into the autumn.
>
>Normal Daily Temperature and Precipitation, Sarnia, Ontario
>
>see:
>http://www.city.sarnia.on.ca/visit.asp?sectionid=432
>
>That 48" snow was a 150 year storm.
It's the average according to the stats I read at Weather.com.
http://www.theweathernetwork.com/statistics/precipitation/cl6127514
>Stratford gets 175 to 275 inches of snowfall per year.
>Sarnia gets, mabee, 32 inches - and it doesn't stay around very long.
>It IS the "banana belt"
OK, it may be, kiddingly, called that by you frozen northerners, and
only as a comparison to the double-digit sub-zero temps the rest of
the country has in the winter.
But show me a growing banana tree anywhere in Sarnia, in the open and
without winter greenhousing, and I'll buy you a brand spankin' new
5x30 domino biscuit for your very own.
--
Most people assume the fights are going to be the left versus the right,
but it always is the reasonable versus the jerks.
-- Jimmy Wales
Base of Bruce Penn.
<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Where are you now??
On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 00:56:24 -0400, "Josepi" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Some days, on this mountain, the snowplow comes three times on our dead-end
>little back street.
>
>I am having culture shock from KW area.
>
>
>
><[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
> And that's a light snow in Kitchener/waterloo, and a "dusting" in
>Stratford. (or Chesley/Hanover/ Mt Forest/ Molesworth area)
>
In article <[email protected]>,
HeyBub <[email protected]> wrote:
>Robert Bonomi wrote:
>> In article <[email protected]>,
>> HeyBub <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Robatoy wrote:
>>>> Hey, sometimes we do big things too.
>>>> 80MW of pure power, this minute it is the world's biggest, but that
>>>> record won't stay very long.
>>>>
>>>> Oh, and it is spelled solAr, not solEr....so keep your spelling-nazi
>>>> shirt on, C-less...<G>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCliiDZiSSE
>>>
>>> Somebody turned down the lights
>>>
>>> "Construction of North America's largest solar farm remains on hold
>>> following the sale of OptiSolar Farms Canada, a move that has
>>> required a project redesign. The new owner, First Solar, hopes to
>>> increase the output of the farm to 80 megawatts from 60 megawatts,
>>> said spokesman Peter Carrie."
>>>
>>> http://www.saultstar.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=1561254
>>>
>>> But, let's see: 80mw/445 hectares = 80,000,000/44,500,000sq.mt = 1.8
>>> w/sq meter
>>
>> You're off by an order of magnitude. 445 hectare is 4,450,000 sq mt.
>
>Oops! You're right! Thanks for the correction. That makes the output 18w/sq
>mt
Its actually more than 4 times higher than that figure. The array itself is
only 973,000 sq. mt.
Just a few miles west of there I have witnessed hailstones that broke a
woman's car mirror.
"WW" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
That area get large hail stones? Wonder how solar panels handle that? WW
"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hey, sometimes we do big things too.
> 80MW of pure power, this minute it is the world's biggest, but that
> record won't stay very long.
>
> Oh, and it is spelled solAr, not solEr....so keep your spelling-nazi
> shirt on, C-less...<G>
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCliiDZiSSE
Robert Bonomi wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> HeyBub <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Robatoy wrote:
>>> Hey, sometimes we do big things too.
>>> 80MW of pure power, this minute it is the world's biggest, but that
>>> record won't stay very long.
>>>
>>> Oh, and it is spelled solAr, not solEr....so keep your spelling-nazi
>>> shirt on, C-less...<G>
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCliiDZiSSE
>>
>> Somebody turned down the lights
>>
>> "Construction of North America's largest solar farm remains on hold
>> following the sale of OptiSolar Farms Canada, a move that has
>> required a project redesign. The new owner, First Solar, hopes to
>> increase the output of the farm to 80 megawatts from 60 megawatts,
>> said spokesman Peter Carrie."
>>
>> http://www.saultstar.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=1561254
>>
>> But, let's see: 80mw/445 hectares = 80,000,000/44,500,000sq.mt = 1.8
>> w/sq meter
>
> You're off by an order of magnitude. 445 hectare is 4,450,000 sq mt.
Oops! You're right! Thanks for the correction. That makes the output 18w/sq
mt
On 10/24/2010 11:42 AM, Robatoy wrote:
> Hey, sometimes we do big things too.
> 80MW of pure power, this minute it is the world's biggest, but that
> record won't stay very long.
>
> Oh, and it is spelled solAr, not solEr....so keep your spelling-nazi
> shirt on, C-less...<G>
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCliiDZiSSE
Where at in Sarnia? I was curious about how area it covered. I looked on
the satellite view on Google/maps but I could not find it.
Robatoy wrote:
> Hey, sometimes we do big things too.
> 80MW of pure power, this minute it is the world's biggest, but that
> record won't stay very long.
>
> Oh, and it is spelled solAr, not solEr....so keep your spelling-nazi
> shirt on, C-less...<G>
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCliiDZiSSE
Somebody turned down the lights
"Construction of North America's largest solar farm remains on hold
following the sale of OptiSolar Farms Canada, a move that has required a
project redesign. The new owner, First Solar, hopes to increase the output
of the farm to 80 megawatts from 60 megawatts, said spokesman Peter Carrie."
http://www.saultstar.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=1561254
But, let's see: 80mw/445 hectares = 80,000,000/44,500,000sq.mt = 1.8 w/sq
meter
In article <[email protected]>,
HeyBub <[email protected]> wrote:
>Robatoy wrote:
>> Hey, sometimes we do big things too.
>> 80MW of pure power, this minute it is the world's biggest, but that
>> record won't stay very long.
>>
>> Oh, and it is spelled solAr, not solEr....so keep your spelling-nazi
>> shirt on, C-less...<G>
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCliiDZiSSE
>
>Somebody turned down the lights
>
>"Construction of North America's largest solar farm remains on hold
>following the sale of OptiSolar Farms Canada, a move that has required a
>project redesign. The new owner, First Solar, hopes to increase the output
>of the farm to 80 megawatts from 60 megawatts, said spokesman Peter Carrie."
>
>http://www.saultstar.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=1561254
>
>But, let's see: 80mw/445 hectares = 80,000,000/44,500,000sq.mt = 1.8 w/sq
>meter
You're off by an order of magnitude. 445 hectare is 4,450,000 sq mt.
Furthermore, according to the owners "Enbridge" <www.enbridge.com>
(a) the 80mw capacity _is_ online. 60mw addition to the original 20mw
OptiSolar plant _Completed_ 'September, 2010'
(b) The 1.3 million modules have a total surface area of 973,000 sq m.
source:
<http://www.enbridge.com/MediaCentre/News.aspx?yearTab=en2009&id=1087230>
80Mw(peak)/973,000sq. is about 82 watts/sq m. which implies a theoretical
efficiency somewhere in the 30-40% range.
Realistically it's expected to generate about 120 million kWh/year, which
works out to a sustained 1.36mw over a 24-hour day. This reverse-engineers
to around 5 watts/sq.m over the total daylight hours. factor in something
reasonable for 'unfavorable' weather, and it still looks like 10-15%
'average' effective conversion. Not too shabby..
With all those PV panels Sarnia may become the mushroom belt.
<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Sarnia is in the "banana belt"
Stratford would be a different story
Or Chesley
On Oct 25, 6:24=A0pm, [email protected] wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 12:23:41 -0700, Larry Jaques
>
>
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 14:08:26 -0400, [email protected] wrote:
>
> >>On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 18:11:26 -0700, Larry Jaques
> >><[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>>On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 14:42:08 -0400, Robatoy
> >>><[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>>>Hey, sometimes we do big things too.
> >>>>80MW of pure power, this minute it is the world's biggest, but that
> >>>>record won't stay very long.
>
> >>>So, what'll it do in the GWN in the winter, under 80' of snow, hmm?
> >>>What's your base power?
>
> >> Sarnia is in the "banana belt"
> >>Stratford would be a different story
> >>Or Chesley
>
> >That means what? There's only 50' of snow in the banana belt in the
> >winter? =A0Looked it up: =A0about 48" of snow there.
> >Banana belt my arse! =A0<brrrrrr>
>
> Sarnia enjoys one of the warmest climates in Canada. Adjacent to Lake
> Huron, a large freshwater body, the climate is moderated year-round.
> Summer temperatures are a few degrees cooler than inland areas of
> southwestern Ontario and winter temperatures are warmer. Winters in
> Sarnia, unlike the rest of Canada, are short and mild with minimal
> snowfall. Spring comes early and summers warm temperatures remain long
> into the autumn. =A0
>
> Normal Daily Temperature and Precipitation, Sarnia, Ontario
>
> see:http://www.city.sarnia.on.ca/visit.asp?sectionid=3D432
>
> That 48" snow was a 150 year storm.
>
> Stratford gets 175 to 275 inches of snowfall per year.
> Sarnia gets, mabee, 32 inches - and it doesn't stay around very long.
> It IS the "banana belt"
Speaking from the banana belt of the Yukon, if you're interested in
comparing the weather of Canadian cities, go to the Weather Winners
web site:
http://www.climate.weatheroffice.gc.ca/winners/intro_e.html
Lots of coo stuff there. Sarnia gets 125cm of snow while Stratford get
244cm.
Note that Whitehorse is among the cities with the most comfortable
weather and the driest, while Sarnia is the second most humid city in
Canada after its neighbour Windsor.
Luigi
On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 11:17:01 -0700, Larry Jaques
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 21:24:54 -0400, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 12:23:41 -0700, Larry Jaques
>><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>>That means what? There's only 50' of snow in the banana belt in the
>>>winter? Looked it up: about 48" of snow there.
>>>Banana belt my arse! <brrrrrr>
>
>>Sarnia enjoys one of the warmest climates in Canada. Adjacent to Lake
>>Huron, a large freshwater body, the climate is moderated year-round.
>>Summer temperatures are a few degrees cooler than inland areas of
>>southwestern Ontario and winter temperatures are warmer. Winters in
>>Sarnia, unlike the rest of Canada, are short and mild with minimal
>>snowfall. Spring comes early and summers warm temperatures remain long
>>into the autumn.
>>
>>Normal Daily Temperature and Precipitation, Sarnia, Ontario
>>
>>see:
>>http://www.city.sarnia.on.ca/visit.asp?sectionid=432
>>
>>That 48" snow was a 150 year storm.
>
>It's the average according to the stats I read at Weather.com.
>http://www.theweathernetwork.com/statistics/precipitation/cl6127514
>
>
>>Stratford gets 175 to 275 inches of snowfall per year.
>>Sarnia gets, mabee, 32 inches - and it doesn't stay around very long.
>>It IS the "banana belt"
>
>OK, it may be, kiddingly, called that by you frozen northerners, and
>only as a comparison to the double-digit sub-zero temps the rest of
>the country has in the winter.
>
>But show me a growing banana tree anywhere in Sarnia, in the open and
>without winter greenhousing, and I'll buy you a brand spankin' new
>5x30 domino biscuit for your very own.
The only part of the chart that really means anything is the mean
daily and median daily snow depth - given in CM. That is 8 and 9 cm in
Jan and Feb,4 in Dec, and 2 in March. 2.5cm is one inch, so Ontario's
Banana belt has, on the ground, a "mean average" of just over 3 inches
of snow on the ground in the snowiest months of Jan and Feb.
On Oct 27, 1:00=A0am, "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote:
> =A0Larry Jaques wrote:
> > A friend of mine lived in Philly and traveled up to Canada often.
> > He'd
> > be driving in sunny weather when he hit Buffalo and the lights went
> > out. =A0Instant blizzard and lake effect snowstorm with 6' drifts in
> > one
> > day.
>
> -------------------------------------
> Hello snow belt where from Nov till May, you are up to your armpits in
> partly cloudy.
>
> Some days the sun even shines.
> ---------------------------------> We call that "hot and muggy" here.
>
> --------------------------------------
> Pulled into Club Island in the Georgian Bay one August afternoon with
> a 27C temp reading.
>
> Dropped the hook and over the side for a swim.
>
> As the sun dropped, had some fried pike caught the previous day washed
> down with a few "Little Greenies".
>
> Tough duty, but somebody had to do it
>
> Lew
From Morocco to Oz, Hawaii to Flawrida, Denmark to Alert, I have been
a few places on this here planet. Lively spring, cozy fall, manageable
short winter weather and near perfect summer weather. Enough of a
change in seasons to be interesting and well-designed/insulated
housing to do double duty in summer and in winter. Utility bills(not
including communications, cable, cells etc.) and property taxes around
3K per year.
3 minutes from sandy freshwater beaches, 3 very nice marinas, 2.5
hours from one of the greatest cities in the world and a little over
an hour to Detroit International which will take me where I want to
go. $ 50.00 train ride and I'm in Chicago.
No earthquakes, no forest fires, no floods, no tornado since 1953.
Local, excellent produce, nice people, good schools, affordable houses
($ 150K still buys something decent)
I don't expound the virtues of Sarnia because I live here, I live here
because of them.
Wanna walk the streets after midnight with a hoodie over your eyes and
your pants hanging low? We WILL take you down.
Too bad the majority of the women are ugly.... it's allllways
sumptin'....
On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 18:23:42 -0700, Larry Jaques
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 20:09:53 -0400, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 11:17:01 -0700, Larry Jaques
>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 21:24:54 -0400, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>>>That 48" snow was a 150 year storm.
>>>
>>>It's the average according to the stats I read at Weather.com.
>>>http://www.theweathernetwork.com/statistics/precipitation/cl6127514
>>>
>>>
>>>>Stratford gets 175 to 275 inches of snowfall per year.
>>>>Sarnia gets, mabee, 32 inches - and it doesn't stay around very long.
>>>>It IS the "banana belt"
>>>
>>>OK, it may be, kiddingly, called that by you frozen northerners, and
>>>only as a comparison to the double-digit sub-zero temps the rest of
>>>the country has in the winter.
>>>
>>>But show me a growing banana tree anywhere in Sarnia, in the open and
>>>without winter greenhousing, and I'll buy you a brand spankin' new
>>>5x30 domino biscuit for your very own.
>
>> The only part of the chart that really means anything is the mean
>>daily and median daily snow depth - given in CM. That is 8 and 9 cm in
>>Jan and Feb,4 in Dec, and 2 in March. 2.5cm is one inch, so Ontario's
>>Banana belt has, on the ground, a "mean average" of just over 3 inches
>>of snow on the ground in the snowiest months of Jan and Feb.
>
>Huh? Monthly data shows 32,26,19,5,0,0,0,0,0,2,10,30, or 124cm.
>1240mm/25.4 = 48.8189 inches per year as an average snowfall in
>Sarnia. 49 inches of snow does not a banana belt make.
>
>Literal mode off, I understand that it's your comparative nickname for
>the place, OK?
>
>No biscuit for you!
OK - look at the average temperature - and just think what happens to
snow when it is above zero - or even when it IS zero with strong
sunlight. 20 out of 30 days have measurable bright sunshine according
to the same site.
And I don't have to go by the weather channel. I live in southwestern
Ontario, and used to have to drive to Sarnia/Windsor?Leamington as
well as London/Stratford/Mitchell and Chesley/Hanover/Mt Forest from
my home in Kitchener/Waterloo/Elmira area.
Not out of the ordinary 2 or 3 days after a "heavy snow" in the
sarnia/windsor/leamington area to have virtually no snow on the
ground. Wife grew up down there.
I remember times when there were snow drifts over the roof of the
Toyota dealership in Stratford - the guys would park their snowmobiles
on the roof a week after a storm. To the Waterloo side of Elmira we
get off pretty easy, most of the time, but just to the west, out
towards Listowel, it is often a different story.
Within 6 miles of the lakes the snow is also pretty light, generally
speaking -but it dumps pretty heavy by about Wingham, Ripley,Bluevale
areas.
The weather up here, below the 49th, can be really strange.
Sarnia is farther south than all of New England, virtually all of New
York, Chicago, and virtually all of Oregon, South Dakota, and Wyoming.
and all of France and Romania. Nestled between the lakes it is almost
mediteranean.
In the summer the humidity, along with temps in the high 30s C (90sF)
yeilds Humidex ratings approaching 120F.
More important for a solar installation, look at the hours of bright
sunshine. The same phenomenon that keeps most of the snow in 6 miles
or so gives the "sunparlour" area some of the longest stretches of
clear sunny weather in the province.(summer and winter).
It keeps the frost out of the ground.
The excavators, here, claim there is never frost in the ground at 45 degrees
N elev.
"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:064635dd-6f9c-4539-b518-d7ed2ea53028@j18g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
Snow doesn't mean extreme cold. Did you look at the average temp?
Besides, 48" over 4 months is nothing considering there are thaws in
between.
You want to talk snow? Talk to jo4hn.
On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 12:23:41 -0700, Larry Jaques
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 14:08:26 -0400, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 18:11:26 -0700, Larry Jaques
>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 14:42:08 -0400, Robatoy
>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hey, sometimes we do big things too.
>>>>80MW of pure power, this minute it is the world's biggest, but that
>>>>record won't stay very long.
>>>
>>>So, what'll it do in the GWN in the winter, under 80' of snow, hmm?
>>>What's your base power?
>
>> Sarnia is in the "banana belt"
>>Stratford would be a different story
>>Or Chesley
>
>That means what? There's only 50' of snow in the banana belt in the
>winter? Looked it up: about 48" of snow there.
>Banana belt my arse! <brrrrrr>
Sarnia enjoys one of the warmest climates in Canada. Adjacent to Lake
Huron, a large freshwater body, the climate is moderated year-round.
Summer temperatures are a few degrees cooler than inland areas of
southwestern Ontario and winter temperatures are warmer. Winters in
Sarnia, unlike the rest of Canada, are short and mild with minimal
snowfall. Spring comes early and summers warm temperatures remain long
into the autumn.
Normal Daily Temperature and Precipitation, Sarnia, Ontario
see:
http://www.city.sarnia.on.ca/visit.asp?sectionid=432
That 48" snow was a 150 year storm.
Stratford gets 175 to 275 inches of snowfall per year.
Sarnia gets, mabee, 32 inches - and it doesn't stay around very long.
It IS the "banana belt"
On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 00:56:24 -0400, "Josepi" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Some days, on this mountain, the snowplow comes three times on our dead-end
>little back street.
>
>I am having culture shock from KW area.
>
>
>
><[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
> And that's a light snow in Kitchener/waterloo, and a "dusting" in
>Stratford. (or Chesley/Hanover/ Mt Forest/ Molesworth area)
>
Where are you now??
"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hey, sometimes we do big things too.
> 80MW of pure power, this minute it is the world's biggest, but that
> record won't stay very long.
>
> Oh, and it is spelled solAr, not solEr....so keep your spelling-nazi
> shirt on, C-less...<G>
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCliiDZiSSE
That area get large hail stones? Wonder how solar panels handle that? WW
On 10/24/2010 1:59 PM, Robatoy wrote:
> On Oct 24, 4:48 pm, Dan Coby<[email protected]> wrote:
>> On 10/24/2010 11:42 AM, Robatoy wrote:
>>
>>> Hey, sometimes we do big things too.
>>> 80MW of pure power, this minute it is the world's biggest, but that
>>> record won't stay very long.
>>
>>> Oh, and it is spelled solAr, not solEr....so keep your spelling-nazi
>>> shirt on, C-less...<G>
>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCliiDZiSSE
>>
>> Where at in Sarnia? I was curious about how area it covered. I looked on
>> the satellite view on Google/maps but I could not find it.
>
> Just checked Earth, not there yet.
> The location is at Plank Rd& Churchill Line, sometimes called
> Lucasville,ON
> Now you will see a racing oval (I think for exercising horses) north
> of Churchill and the Voltaic farm is between it and hwy 40 and all
> that land north of there is covered in panels now.
> This is only part of it.
Thanks for the info. I have been comparing this site with some solar thermal
sites near Kramer Junction in California.
The photovoltaic site seems to be comparable in land area (per megawatt)
with the solar thermal facilities.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_Energy_Generating_Systems
http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=35.0142,-117.559&spn=0.01,0.01&t=h&q=35.0142,-117.559
Dan
On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 17:20:45 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Oct 26, 8:09Â pm, [email protected] wrote:
>> On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 11:17:01 -0700, Larry Jaques
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 21:24:54 -0400, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>> >>On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 12:23:41 -0700, Larry Jaques
>> >><[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >>>That means what? There's only 50' of snow in the banana belt in the
>> >>>winter? Â Looked it up: Â about 48" of snow there.
>> >>>Banana belt my arse! Â <brrrrrr>
>>
>> >>Sarnia enjoys one of the warmest climates in Canada. Adjacent to Lake
>> >>Huron, a large freshwater body, the climate is moderated year-round.
>> >>Summer temperatures are a few degrees cooler than inland areas of
>> >>southwestern Ontario and winter temperatures are warmer. Winters in
>> >>Sarnia, unlike the rest of Canada, are short and mild with minimal
>> >>snowfall. Spring comes early and summers warm temperatures remain long
>> >>into the autumn. Â
>>
>> >>Normal Daily Temperature and Precipitation, Sarnia, Ontario
>>
>> >>see:
>> >>http://www.city.sarnia.on.ca/visit.asp?sectionid=432
>>
>> >>That 48" snow was a 150 year storm.
>>
>> >It's the average according to the stats I read at Weather.com.
>> >http://www.theweathernetwork.com/statistics/precipitation/cl6127514
>>
>> >>Stratford gets 175 to 275 inches of snowfall per year.
>> >>Sarnia gets, mabee, 32 inches - and it doesn't stay around very long.
>> >>It IS the "banana belt"
>>
>> >OK, it may be, kiddingly, called that by you frozen northerners, and
>> >only as a comparison to the double-digit sub-zero temps the rest of
>> >the country has in the winter. Â
>>
>> >But show me a growing banana tree anywhere in Sarnia, in the open and
>> >without winter greenhousing, and I'll buy you a brand spankin' new
>> >5x30 domino biscuit for your very own.
>>
>> Â The only part of the chart that really means anything is the mean
>> daily and median daily snow depth - given in CM. That is 8 and 9 cm in
>> Jan and Feb,4 in Dec, and 2 in March. 2.5cm is one inch, so Ontario's
>> Banana belt has, on the ground, a "mean average" of just over 3 inches
>> of snow on the ground in the snowiest months of Jan and Feb.
>
>...and that usually comes in one load.
And that's a light snow in Kitchener/waterloo, and a "dusting" in
Stratford. (or Chesley/Hanover/ Mt Forest/ Molesworth area)
On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 18:11:26 -0700, Larry Jaques
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 14:42:08 -0400, Robatoy
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Hey, sometimes we do big things too.
>>80MW of pure power, this minute it is the world's biggest, but that
>>record won't stay very long.
>
>So, what'll it do in the GWN in the winter, under 80' of snow, hmm?
>What's your base power?
>
>
>>Oh, and it is spelled solAr, not solEr....so keep your spelling-nazi
>>shirt on, C-less...<G>
>
>Rightio!
>
>
>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCliiDZiSSE
>
>Floyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyd!
Sarnia is in the "banana belt"
Stratford would be a different story
Or Chesley
On Oct 28, 3:11=A0pm, Steve Turner <[email protected]>
wrote:
> On 10/28/2010 12:28 PM, Robatoy wrote:
>
> > On Oct 28, 12:03 pm, FrozenNorth<[email protected]>
> >> But did you go and see Red Green last night in Sarnia?
> >> That should have been a highlight on your social calendar.
>
> > Naaa... he has said a couple of funny things, but he's basically
> > creating the wrong impression of who we are as a nation, that includes
> > those Trailer Park idiots and that douchebag Celine Dijon[sic].
> > We have to be able to laugh at ourselves, but to do that, you have to
> > be funny and Red Green's funny stopped after show # 3.... he ran out.
>
> Well it's not too often that you go off and say something that I just can=
't
> agree with, but you done did it right there pal! =A0I've seen a ton of Re=
d Green
> episodes and I don't ever recall thinking any of them were unfunny. =A0Ma=
ybe not
> completely hilarious at every step and turn, but certainly enjoyable enou=
gh for
> me to sit through every episode I've ever taken the time to watch, and I =
don't
> like to sit still for very long.
>
> Not sure I follow you on the "wrong impression of your nation" thing eith=
er...
> =A0 Every country has their buffoons, and I don't come away from the show
> thinking less of Canada just because Red made some crack about it, which =
I
> don't think is all that often anyway.
>
> --
> "Even if your wife is happy but you're unhappy, you're still happier
> than you'd be if you were happy and your wife was unhappy." - Red Green
> To reply, eat the taco.http://www.flickr.com/photos/bbqboyee/
Oh gawd....I really messed up the subtlety of my tongue-in-cheekness,
eh?
....and sorry, I didn't know Red Green was a comedian. <EG> Pat
McKenna is funny though...up to a point.
Angela and I attend many stand-up shows, sometimes she laugh
uncontrollably and I sit there dead-pan, and sometimes it is the other
way around.
"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:cceea969-f1f7-4b55-9f78-bbb4ccd25c9b@v16g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
On Oct 27, 11:50 am, Larry Jaques <[email protected]>
wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 06:01:53 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
>
>
>
>
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >On Oct 27, 1:00 am, "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> Larry Jaques wrote:
> >> > A friend of mine lived in Philly and traveled up to Canada often.
> >> > He'd
> >> > be driving in sunny weather when he hit Buffalo and the lights went
> >> > out. Instant blizzard and lake effect snowstorm with 6' drifts in
> >> > one
> >> > day.
>
> >> -------------------------------------
> >> Hello snow belt where from Nov till May, you are up to your armpits in
> >> partly cloudy.
>
> >> Some days the sun even shines.
> >> ---------------------------------> We call that "hot and muggy" here.
>
> >> --------------------------------------
> >> Pulled into Club Island in the Georgian Bay one August afternoon with
> >> a 27C temp reading.
>
> >> Dropped the hook and over the side for a swim.
>
> >> As the sun dropped, had some fried pike caught the previous day washed
> >> down with a few "Little Greenies".
>
> >> Tough duty, but somebody had to do it
>
> >> Lew
>
> >From Morocco to Oz, Hawaii to Flawrida, Denmark to Alert, I have been
> >a few places on this here planet. Lively spring, cozy fall, manageable
> >short winter weather and near perfect summer weather. Enough of a
> >change in seasons to be interesting and well-designed/insulated
> >housing to do double duty in summer and in winter. Utility bills(not
> >including communications, cable, cells etc.) and property taxes around
> >3K per year.
>
> Gas and electricity cost me $1,200 here.
>
> >3 minutes from sandy freshwater beaches, 3 very nice marinas, 2.5
>
> Iceskating 6 months a year, 9mm dry suit the rest?
>
> >hours from one of the greatest cities in the world and a little over
> >an hour to Detroit International which will take me where I want to
>
> Sounds like a nice city, Toy. Why would you leave it for Detroit?
> Ever?
>
>The symphony. The car show. The airport. Poking fun at the Cavaliers
>with the 20" rims and the coffee cans for exhausts. The Palace and the
>rock shows...lots to do in Detroit.... it's not all decayed.
Henry Ford Museum, Greenfield Village. Yankee Air Museum at Willow Run.
in Novi; The Motorsports Museum & Hall of Fame.
Max
Nope. Georgian Bay on a mountain.
Was Wloo. and then Kit.
I am impressed with the snow removal. It frightened us hearing about the
amounts due to living in Kit and the residents to snowblow our own street,
almost every time.
Coming back from Mexico after a storm a few years back I found large freshly
plough snow banks all the way from hamilton aeroport. (another Canuck word
we made up...LOL) my street was snowed in and I rammed it only to walk the
rest of the street at 4:00 am.
well! CAA won't come and tow you "'cause they might get stuck" until the
snowplow comes. The city snowplough won't come until all the cars are off
the road. The neighbours blew the whole street and started a trend. I see
the plough here more in two days than I did for the whole winter, there.
Trouble is I hate starting up the blower three times per day
sometimes..GRRRRRRR. Time to retire so I don't have to make up excuses. Work
would never believe it...LOL
<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Wiarton, Oliphant area?
Friend's cottage up there - a couple years ago we got snowed in for 3
days.
On Oct 28, 12:03=A0pm, FrozenNorth <[email protected]>
wrote:
> On 10/27/10 1:32 PM, Robatoy wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Oct 27, 11:50 am, Larry Jaques<[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >> On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 06:01:53 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
>
> >> <[email protected]> =A0wrote:
> >>> On Oct 27, 1:00 am, "Lew Hodgett"<[email protected]> =A0wrote:
> >>>> =A0 Larry Jaques wrote:
> >>>>> A friend of mine lived in Philly and traveled up to Canada often.
> >>>>> He'd
> >>>>> be driving in sunny weather when he hit Buffalo and the lights went
> >>>>> out. =A0Instant blizzard and lake effect snowstorm with 6' drifts i=
n
> >>>>> one
> >>>>> day.
>
> >>>> -------------------------------------
> >>>> Hello snow belt where from Nov till May, you are up to your armpits =
in
> >>>> partly cloudy.
>
> >>>> Some days the sun even shines.
> >>>> ---------------------------------> =A0We call that "hot and muggy" h=
ere.
>
> >>>> --------------------------------------
> >>>> Pulled into Club Island in the Georgian Bay one August afternoon wit=
h
> >>>> a 27C temp reading.
>
> >>>> Dropped the hook and over the side for a swim.
>
> >>>> As the sun dropped, had some fried pike caught the previous day wash=
ed
> >>>> down with a few "Little Greenies".
>
> >>>> Tough duty, but somebody had to do it
>
> >>>> Lew
>
> >> > From Morocco to Oz, Hawaii to Flawrida, Denmark to Alert, I have bee=
n
> >>> a few places on this here planet. Lively spring, cozy fall, manageabl=
e
> >>> short winter weather and near perfect summer weather. Enough of a
> >>> change in seasons to be interesting and well-designed/insulated
> >>> housing to do double duty in summer and in winter. Utility bills(not
> >>> including communications, cable, cells etc.) and property taxes aroun=
d
> >>> 3K per year.
>
> >> Gas and electricity cost me $1,200 here.
>
> >>> 3 minutes from sandy freshwater beaches, 3 very nice marinas, 2.5
>
> >> Iceskating 6 months a year, 9mm dry suit the rest?
>
> >>> hours from one of the greatest cities in the world and a little over
> >>> an hour to Detroit International which will take me where I want to
>
> >> Sounds like a nice city, Toy. =A0Why would you leave it for Detroit?
> >> Ever?
>
> > The symphony. The car show. The airport. Poking fun at the Cavaliers
> > with the 20" rims and the coffee cans for exhausts. The Palace and the
> > rock shows...lots to do in Detroit.... it's not all decayed.
>
> But did you go and see Red Green last night in Sarnia?
> That should have been a highlight on your social calendar.
>
> --
> Froz...
>
> The system will be down for 10 days for preventive maintenance.
Naaa... he has said a couple of funny things, but he's basically
creating the wrong impression of who we are as a nation, that includes
those Trailer Park idiots and that douchebag Celine Dijon[sic].
We have to be able to laugh at ourselves, but to do that, you have to
be funny and Red Green's funny stopped after show # 3.... he ran out.
On Oct 27, 11:50=A0am, Larry Jaques <[email protected]>
wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 06:01:53 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
>
>
>
>
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >On Oct 27, 1:00=A0am, "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> =A0Larry Jaques wrote:
> >> > A friend of mine lived in Philly and traveled up to Canada often.
> >> > He'd
> >> > be driving in sunny weather when he hit Buffalo and the lights went
> >> > out. =A0Instant blizzard and lake effect snowstorm with 6' drifts in
> >> > one
> >> > day.
>
> >> -------------------------------------
> >> Hello snow belt where from Nov till May, you are up to your armpits in
> >> partly cloudy.
>
> >> Some days the sun even shines.
> >> ---------------------------------> We call that "hot and muggy" here.
>
> >> --------------------------------------
> >> Pulled into Club Island in the Georgian Bay one August afternoon with
> >> a 27C temp reading.
>
> >> Dropped the hook and over the side for a swim.
>
> >> As the sun dropped, had some fried pike caught the previous day washed
> >> down with a few "Little Greenies".
>
> >> Tough duty, but somebody had to do it
>
> >> Lew
>
> >From Morocco to Oz, Hawaii to Flawrida, Denmark to Alert, I have been
> >a few places on this here planet. Lively spring, cozy fall, manageable
> >short winter weather and near perfect summer weather. Enough of a
> >change in seasons to be interesting and well-designed/insulated
> >housing to do double duty in summer and in winter. Utility bills(not
> >including communications, cable, cells etc.) and property taxes around
> >3K per year.
>
> Gas and electricity cost me $1,200 here.
>
> >3 minutes from sandy freshwater beaches, 3 very nice marinas, 2.5
>
> Iceskating 6 months a year, 9mm dry suit the rest?
>
> >hours from one of the greatest cities in the world and a little over
> >an hour to Detroit International which will take me where I want to
>
> Sounds like a nice city, Toy. =A0Why would you leave it for Detroit?
> Ever?
>
The symphony. The car show. The airport. Poking fun at the Cavaliers
with the 20" rims and the coffee cans for exhausts. The Palace and the
rock shows...lots to do in Detroit.... it's not all decayed.
On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 06:01:53 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Oct 27, 1:00 am, "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Larry Jaques wrote:
>> > A friend of mine lived in Philly and traveled up to Canada often.
>> > He'd
>> > be driving in sunny weather when he hit Buffalo and the lights went
>> > out. Instant blizzard and lake effect snowstorm with 6' drifts in
>> > one
>> > day.
>>
>> -------------------------------------
>> Hello snow belt where from Nov till May, you are up to your armpits in
>> partly cloudy.
>>
>> Some days the sun even shines.
>> ---------------------------------> We call that "hot and muggy" here.
>>
>> --------------------------------------
>> Pulled into Club Island in the Georgian Bay one August afternoon with
>> a 27C temp reading.
>>
>> Dropped the hook and over the side for a swim.
>>
>> As the sun dropped, had some fried pike caught the previous day washed
>> down with a few "Little Greenies".
>>
>> Tough duty, but somebody had to do it
>>
>> Lew
>
>From Morocco to Oz, Hawaii to Flawrida, Denmark to Alert, I have been
>a few places on this here planet. Lively spring, cozy fall, manageable
>short winter weather and near perfect summer weather. Enough of a
>change in seasons to be interesting and well-designed/insulated
>housing to do double duty in summer and in winter. Utility bills(not
>including communications, cable, cells etc.) and property taxes around
>3K per year.
Gas and electricity cost me $1,200 here.
>3 minutes from sandy freshwater beaches, 3 very nice marinas, 2.5
Iceskating 6 months a year, 9mm dry suit the rest?
>hours from one of the greatest cities in the world and a little over
>an hour to Detroit International which will take me where I want to
Sounds like a nice city, Toy. Why would you leave it for Detroit?
Ever?
>go. $ 50.00 train ride and I'm in Chicago.
You can see where the corruption started?
>No earthquakes, no forest fires, no floods, no tornado since 1953.
But a bit of chill...
>Local, excellent produce, nice people, good schools, affordable houses
>($ 150K still buys something decent)
>I don't expound the virtues of Sarnia because I live here, I live here
>because of them.
Very nice price.
>Wanna walk the streets after midnight with a hoodie over your eyes and
>your pants hanging low? We WILL take you down.
Most excellent! Kudos on that. You could teach us something.
>Too bad the majority of the women are ugly.... it's allllways
>sumptin'....
Ditto here, plus the 100+ pounds of extra womanhood they don't need.
--
Most people assume the fights are going to be the left versus the right,
but it always is the reasonable versus the jerks.
-- Jimmy Wales
On 10/27/10 1:32 PM, Robatoy wrote:
> On Oct 27, 11:50 am, Larry Jaques<[email protected]>
> wrote:
>> On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 06:01:53 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> On Oct 27, 1:00 am, "Lew Hodgett"<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Larry Jaques wrote:
>>>>> A friend of mine lived in Philly and traveled up to Canada often.
>>>>> He'd
>>>>> be driving in sunny weather when he hit Buffalo and the lights went
>>>>> out. Instant blizzard and lake effect snowstorm with 6' drifts in
>>>>> one
>>>>> day.
>>
>>>> -------------------------------------
>>>> Hello snow belt where from Nov till May, you are up to your armpits in
>>>> partly cloudy.
>>
>>>> Some days the sun even shines.
>>>> ---------------------------------> We call that "hot and muggy" here.
>>
>>>> --------------------------------------
>>>> Pulled into Club Island in the Georgian Bay one August afternoon with
>>>> a 27C temp reading.
>>
>>>> Dropped the hook and over the side for a swim.
>>
>>>> As the sun dropped, had some fried pike caught the previous day washed
>>>> down with a few "Little Greenies".
>>
>>>> Tough duty, but somebody had to do it
>>
>>>> Lew
>>
>> > From Morocco to Oz, Hawaii to Flawrida, Denmark to Alert, I have been
>>> a few places on this here planet. Lively spring, cozy fall, manageable
>>> short winter weather and near perfect summer weather. Enough of a
>>> change in seasons to be interesting and well-designed/insulated
>>> housing to do double duty in summer and in winter. Utility bills(not
>>> including communications, cable, cells etc.) and property taxes around
>>> 3K per year.
>>
>> Gas and electricity cost me $1,200 here.
>>
>>> 3 minutes from sandy freshwater beaches, 3 very nice marinas, 2.5
>>
>> Iceskating 6 months a year, 9mm dry suit the rest?
>>
>>> hours from one of the greatest cities in the world and a little over
>>> an hour to Detroit International which will take me where I want to
>>
>> Sounds like a nice city, Toy. Why would you leave it for Detroit?
>> Ever?
>>
> The symphony. The car show. The airport. Poking fun at the Cavaliers
> with the 20" rims and the coffee cans for exhausts. The Palace and the
> rock shows...lots to do in Detroit.... it's not all decayed.
>
But did you go and see Red Green last night in Sarnia?
That should have been a highlight on your social calendar.
--
Froz...
The system will be down for 10 days for preventive maintenance.
On 10/28/2010 12:28 PM, Robatoy wrote:
> On Oct 28, 12:03 pm, FrozenNorth<[email protected]>
>> But did you go and see Red Green last night in Sarnia?
>> That should have been a highlight on your social calendar.
>
> Naaa... he has said a couple of funny things, but he's basically
> creating the wrong impression of who we are as a nation, that includes
> those Trailer Park idiots and that douchebag Celine Dijon[sic].
> We have to be able to laugh at ourselves, but to do that, you have to
> be funny and Red Green's funny stopped after show # 3.... he ran out.
Well it's not too often that you go off and say something that I just can't
agree with, but you done did it right there pal! I've seen a ton of Red Green
episodes and I don't ever recall thinking any of them were unfunny. Maybe not
completely hilarious at every step and turn, but certainly enjoyable enough for
me to sit through every episode I've ever taken the time to watch, and I don't
like to sit still for very long.
Not sure I follow you on the "wrong impression of your nation" thing either...
Every country has their buffoons, and I don't come away from the show
thinking less of Canada just because Red made some crack about it, which I
don't think is all that often anyway.
--
"Even if your wife is happy but you're unhappy, you're still happier
than you'd be if you were happy and your wife was unhappy." - Red Green
To reply, eat the taco.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bbqboyee/
On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 16:55:57 -0400, "Josepi" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Base of Bruce Penn.
>
>
><[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>Where are you now??
>
>
Wiarton, Oliphant area?
Friend's cottage up there - a couple years ago we got snowed in for 3
days.
>
>On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 00:56:24 -0400, "Josepi" <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>Some days, on this mountain, the snowplow comes three times on our dead-end
>>little back street.
>>
>>I am having culture shock from KW area.
>>
>>
>>
>><[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>> And that's a light snow in Kitchener/waterloo, and a "dusting" in
>>Stratford. (or Chesley/Hanover/ Mt Forest/ Molesworth area)
>>
>
On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 22:49:02 -0400, [email protected] wrote:
>On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 18:23:42 -0700, Larry Jaques
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 20:09:53 -0400, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 11:17:01 -0700, Larry Jaques
>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 21:24:54 -0400, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>>>>That 48" snow was a 150 year storm.
>>>>
>>>>It's the average according to the stats I read at Weather.com.
>>>>http://www.theweathernetwork.com/statistics/precipitation/cl6127514
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Stratford gets 175 to 275 inches of snowfall per year.
>>>>>Sarnia gets, mabee, 32 inches - and it doesn't stay around very long.
>>>>>It IS the "banana belt"
>>>>
>>>>OK, it may be, kiddingly, called that by you frozen northerners, and
>>>>only as a comparison to the double-digit sub-zero temps the rest of
>>>>the country has in the winter.
>>>>
>>>>But show me a growing banana tree anywhere in Sarnia, in the open and
>>>>without winter greenhousing, and I'll buy you a brand spankin' new
>>>>5x30 domino biscuit for your very own.
>>
>>> The only part of the chart that really means anything is the mean
>>>daily and median daily snow depth - given in CM. That is 8 and 9 cm in
>>>Jan and Feb,4 in Dec, and 2 in March. 2.5cm is one inch, so Ontario's
>>>Banana belt has, on the ground, a "mean average" of just over 3 inches
>>>of snow on the ground in the snowiest months of Jan and Feb.
>
>>Huh? Monthly data shows 32,26,19,5,0,0,0,0,0,2,10,30, or 124cm.
>>1240mm/25.4 = 48.8189 inches per year as an average snowfall in
>>Sarnia. 49 inches of snow does not a banana belt make.
>>
>>Literal mode off, I understand that it's your comparative nickname for
>>the place, OK?
>>
>>No biscuit for you!
>OK - look at the average temperature - and just think what happens to
>snow when it is above zero - or even when it IS zero with strong
>sunlight. 20 out of 30 days have measurable bright sunshine according
>to the same site.
I get it. Sarnia is the "Vista" of the GWN.
>And I don't have to go by the weather channel. I live in southwestern
>Ontario, and used to have to drive to Sarnia/Windsor?Leamington as
>well as London/Stratford/Mitchell and Chesley/Hanover/Mt Forest from
>my home in Kitchener/Waterloo/Elmira area.
>
>Not out of the ordinary 2 or 3 days after a "heavy snow" in the
>sarnia/windsor/leamington area to have virtually no snow on the
>ground. Wife grew up down there.
>I remember times when there were snow drifts over the roof of the
>Toyota dealership in Stratford - the guys would park their snowmobiles
>on the roof a week after a storm. To the Waterloo side of Elmira we
>get off pretty easy, most of the time, but just to the west, out
>towards Listowel, it is often a different story.
>
>Within 6 miles of the lakes the snow is also pretty light, generally
>speaking -but it dumps pretty heavy by about Wingham, Ripley,Bluevale
>areas.
A friend of mine lived in Philly and traveled up to Canada often. He'd
be driving in sunny weather when he hit Buffalo and the lights went
out. Instant blizzard and lake effect snowstorm with 6' drifts in one
day.
>The weather up here, below the 49th, can be really strange.
You really didn't need that "below the 49th" limiter in there.
>Sarnia is farther south than all of New England, virtually all of New
>York, Chicago, and virtually all of Oregon, South Dakota, and Wyoming.
>and all of France and Romania. Nestled between the lakes it is almost
>mediteranean.
Sounds nice for a northern clime.
>In the summer the humidity, along with temps in the high 30s C (90sF)
>yeilds Humidex ratings approaching 120F.
We call that "hot and muggy" here.
>More important for a solar installation, look at the hours of bright
>sunshine. The same phenomenon that keeps most of the snow in 6 miles
>or so gives the "sunparlour" area some of the longest stretches of
>clear sunny weather in the province.(summer and winter).
Bueno, bwana. I guess it is viable. Go ahead and tell them that I
said it's OK to build, will ya? <snort>
--
Most people assume the fights are going to be the left versus the right,
but it always is the reasonable versus the jerks.
-- Jimmy Wales
On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 14:08:26 -0400, [email protected] wrote:
>On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 18:11:26 -0700, Larry Jaques
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 14:42:08 -0400, Robatoy
>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>Hey, sometimes we do big things too.
>>>80MW of pure power, this minute it is the world's biggest, but that
>>>record won't stay very long.
>>
>>So, what'll it do in the GWN in the winter, under 80' of snow, hmm?
>>What's your base power?
> Sarnia is in the "banana belt"
>Stratford would be a different story
>Or Chesley
That means what? There's only 50' of snow in the banana belt in the
winter? Looked it up: about 48" of snow there.
Banana belt my arse! <brrrrrr>
--
If you're looking for the key to the Universe,
I've got some good news and some bad news.
The bad news: There is no key to the Universe.
The good news: It was never locked.
--Swami Beyondananda
On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 11:45:16 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Oct 26, 2:17 pm, Larry Jaques <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>> But show me a growing banana tree anywhere in Sarnia, in the open and
>> without winter greenhousing, and I'll buy you a brand spankin' new
>> 5x30 domino biscuit for your very own.
>>
>
>Banana BELT, silly. we buy bananas and weave belts from driend banana
>skins...shheeesh!
Man, I just can't wrap my head around bananas and beer, eh, hoser?
>> Most people assume the fights are going to be the left versus the right,
>> but it always is the reasonable versus the jerks.
>> -- Jimmy Wales
>
>In that order.
Not quite, Lefty.
--
Most people assume the fights are going to be the left versus the right,
but it always is the reasonable versus the jerks.
-- Jimmy Wales
On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 20:09:53 -0400, [email protected] wrote:
>On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 11:17:01 -0700, Larry Jaques
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 21:24:54 -0400, [email protected] wrote:
>>>That 48" snow was a 150 year storm.
>>
>>It's the average according to the stats I read at Weather.com.
>>http://www.theweathernetwork.com/statistics/precipitation/cl6127514
>>
>>
>>>Stratford gets 175 to 275 inches of snowfall per year.
>>>Sarnia gets, mabee, 32 inches - and it doesn't stay around very long.
>>>It IS the "banana belt"
>>
>>OK, it may be, kiddingly, called that by you frozen northerners, and
>>only as a comparison to the double-digit sub-zero temps the rest of
>>the country has in the winter.
>>
>>But show me a growing banana tree anywhere in Sarnia, in the open and
>>without winter greenhousing, and I'll buy you a brand spankin' new
>>5x30 domino biscuit for your very own.
> The only part of the chart that really means anything is the mean
>daily and median daily snow depth - given in CM. That is 8 and 9 cm in
>Jan and Feb,4 in Dec, and 2 in March. 2.5cm is one inch, so Ontario's
>Banana belt has, on the ground, a "mean average" of just over 3 inches
>of snow on the ground in the snowiest months of Jan and Feb.
Huh? Monthly data shows 32,26,19,5,0,0,0,0,0,2,10,30, or 124cm.
1240mm/25.4 = 48.8189 inches per year as an average snowfall in
Sarnia. 49 inches of snow does not a banana belt make.
Literal mode off, I understand that it's your comparative nickname for
the place, OK?
No biscuit for you!
--
Most people assume the fights are going to be the left versus the right,
but it always is the reasonable versus the jerks.
-- Jimmy Wales
On Oct 28, 9:22=A0pm, [email protected] wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 10:28:01 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
>
>
>
>
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >On Oct 28, 12:03=A0pm, FrozenNorth <[email protected]>
> >wrote:
> >> On 10/27/10 1:32 PM, Robatoy wrote:
>
> >> > On Oct 27, 11:50 am, Larry Jaques<[email protected]>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >> On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 06:01:53 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
>
> >> >> <[email protected]> =A0wrote:
> >> >>> On Oct 27, 1:00 am, "Lew Hodgett"<[email protected]> =A0wrote=
:
> >> >>>> =A0 Larry Jaques wrote:
> >> >>>>> A friend of mine lived in Philly and traveled up to Canada often=
.
> >> >>>>> He'd
> >> >>>>> be driving in sunny weather when he hit Buffalo and the lights w=
ent
> >> >>>>> out. =A0Instant blizzard and lake effect snowstorm with 6' drift=
s in
> >> >>>>> one
> >> >>>>> day.
>
> >> >>>> -------------------------------------
> >> >>>> Hello snow belt where from Nov till May, you are up to your armpi=
ts in
> >> >>>> partly cloudy.
>
> >> >>>> Some days the sun even shines.
> >> >>>> ---------------------------------> =A0We call that "hot and muggy=
" here.
>
> >> >>>> --------------------------------------
> >> >>>> Pulled into Club Island in the Georgian Bay one August afternoon =
with
> >> >>>> a 27C temp reading.
>
> >> >>>> Dropped the hook and over the side for a swim.
>
> >> >>>> As the sun dropped, had some fried pike caught the previous day w=
ashed
> >> >>>> down with a few "Little Greenies".
>
> >> >>>> Tough duty, but somebody had to do it
>
> >> >>>> Lew
>
> >> >> > From Morocco to Oz, Hawaii to Flawrida, Denmark to Alert, I have =
been
> >> >>> a few places on this here planet. Lively spring, cozy fall, manage=
able
> >> >>> short winter weather and near perfect summer weather. Enough of a
> >> >>> change in seasons to be interesting and well-designed/insulated
> >> >>> housing to do double duty in summer and in winter. Utility bills(n=
ot
> >> >>> including communications, cable, cells etc.) and property taxes ar=
ound
> >> >>> 3K per year.
>
> >> >> Gas and electricity cost me $1,200 here.
>
> >> >>> 3 minutes from sandy freshwater beaches, 3 very nice marinas, 2.5
>
> >> >> Iceskating 6 months a year, 9mm dry suit the rest?
>
> >> >>> hours from one of the greatest cities in the world and a little ov=
er
> >> >>> an hour to Detroit International which will take me where I want t=
o
>
> >> >> Sounds like a nice city, Toy. =A0Why would you leave it for Detroit=
?
> >> >> Ever?
>
> >> > The symphony. The car show. The airport. Poking fun at the Cavaliers
> >> > with the 20" rims and the coffee cans for exhausts. The Palace and t=
he
> >> > rock shows...lots to do in Detroit.... it's not all decayed.
>
> >> But did you go and see Red Green last night in Sarnia?
> >> That should have been a highlight on your social calendar.
>
> >> --
> >> Froz...
>
> >> The system will be down for 10 days for preventive maintenance.
>
> >Naaa... he has said a couple of funny things, but he's basically
> >creating the wrong impression of who we are as a nation, that includes
> >those Trailer Park idiots and that douchebag Celine Dijon[sic].
> >We have to be able to laugh at ourselves, but to do that, you have to
> >be funny and Red Green's funny stopped after show # 3.... he ran out.
>
> =A0 What about Brent Butt and the Dog River guys? (Corner gas)
First class. No laugh track, no need. Very Funny.
On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 10:28:01 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Oct 28, 12:03Â pm, FrozenNorth <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>> On 10/27/10 1:32 PM, Robatoy wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Oct 27, 11:50 am, Larry Jaques<[email protected]>
>> > wrote:
>> >> On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 06:01:53 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
>>
>> >> <[email protected]> Â wrote:
>> >>> On Oct 27, 1:00 am, "Lew Hodgett"<[email protected]> Â wrote:
>> >>>> Â Larry Jaques wrote:
>> >>>>> A friend of mine lived in Philly and traveled up to Canada often.
>> >>>>> He'd
>> >>>>> be driving in sunny weather when he hit Buffalo and the lights went
>> >>>>> out. Â Instant blizzard and lake effect snowstorm with 6' drifts in
>> >>>>> one
>> >>>>> day.
>>
>> >>>> -------------------------------------
>> >>>> Hello snow belt where from Nov till May, you are up to your armpits in
>> >>>> partly cloudy.
>>
>> >>>> Some days the sun even shines.
>> >>>> ---------------------------------> Â We call that "hot and muggy" here.
>>
>> >>>> --------------------------------------
>> >>>> Pulled into Club Island in the Georgian Bay one August afternoon with
>> >>>> a 27C temp reading.
>>
>> >>>> Dropped the hook and over the side for a swim.
>>
>> >>>> As the sun dropped, had some fried pike caught the previous day washed
>> >>>> down with a few "Little Greenies".
>>
>> >>>> Tough duty, but somebody had to do it
>>
>> >>>> Lew
>>
>> >> > From Morocco to Oz, Hawaii to Flawrida, Denmark to Alert, I have been
>> >>> a few places on this here planet. Lively spring, cozy fall, manageable
>> >>> short winter weather and near perfect summer weather. Enough of a
>> >>> change in seasons to be interesting and well-designed/insulated
>> >>> housing to do double duty in summer and in winter. Utility bills(not
>> >>> including communications, cable, cells etc.) and property taxes around
>> >>> 3K per year.
>>
>> >> Gas and electricity cost me $1,200 here.
>>
>> >>> 3 minutes from sandy freshwater beaches, 3 very nice marinas, 2.5
>>
>> >> Iceskating 6 months a year, 9mm dry suit the rest?
>>
>> >>> hours from one of the greatest cities in the world and a little over
>> >>> an hour to Detroit International which will take me where I want to
>>
>> >> Sounds like a nice city, Toy. Â Why would you leave it for Detroit?
>> >> Ever?
>>
>> > The symphony. The car show. The airport. Poking fun at the Cavaliers
>> > with the 20" rims and the coffee cans for exhausts. The Palace and the
>> > rock shows...lots to do in Detroit.... it's not all decayed.
>>
>> But did you go and see Red Green last night in Sarnia?
>> That should have been a highlight on your social calendar.
>>
>> --
>> Froz...
>>
>> The system will be down for 10 days for preventive maintenance.
>
>Naaa... he has said a couple of funny things, but he's basically
>creating the wrong impression of who we are as a nation, that includes
>those Trailer Park idiots and that douchebag Celine Dijon[sic].
>We have to be able to laugh at ourselves, but to do that, you have to
>be funny and Red Green's funny stopped after show # 3.... he ran out.
What about Brent Butt and the Dog River guys? (Corner gas)
On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 14:42:08 -0400, Robatoy
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Hey, sometimes we do big things too.
>80MW of pure power, this minute it is the world's biggest, but that
>record won't stay very long.
So, what'll it do in the GWN in the winter, under 80' of snow, hmm?
What's your base power?
>Oh, and it is spelled solAr, not solEr....so keep your spelling-nazi
>shirt on, C-less...<G>
Rightio!
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCliiDZiSSE
Floyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyd!
--
An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile,
hoping it will eat him last.
-- Sir Winston Churchill