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charlie b

02/10/2003 9:35 AM

Dovetails-The Missing Link - Cordless?

Have been playing with handcut dovetails for a while.
Have used a japanese pull saw (dozuki?), a $10 back
saw and an expenso-costo LN DT saw (drive by neener).
The first and last work very well, the $10 SUCKS!

One of the problems I've been having is stopping the
cuts at the scribe line. If I overshoot the saw cut
shows, though with luck it's on the inside where it
won't show as much, or I undercut, which makes clean-
ing out the waste a little more work. Even using The
Mirror Trick, I still over or undershoot on at least
one cut.

The other problem I have is getting the angle of the
saw right when cutting tails. A little off and I've
screwed up the joint or have more paring to do.

May have found a solution.

A buddy called me last night and asked to borrow my
little Makita cordless circular saw - you know, the
one with the 3 or 4 inch blade. This morning, while
packing it up I looked at a practive board I had
in the vise - layout lines all ready for cutting.

Hmmmm! Set the depth of cut on the Makita to the
depth of the pins, check the blade for square
and had a quick go at it. NOT BAD! With the shoulders
cut I nibbled away the waste.

I may be on to something. This may be The Missing
Link - the evolutionary link between the Neander
and the Normite. More research will be necessary
but this will document my discovery.

So if you've got a small cordless saw handy this
may get you to try "hand cut" dovetails.

Picture posted in a.b.p.w.

charlie b


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charlie b

in reply to charlie b on 02/10/2003 9:35 AM

02/10/2003 10:07 AM

Norm Underwood wrote:

>
> There's an article in an old FWW about using your tablesaw to make the
> cuts. The guy even has the blade re-ground to match the angle of the
> cut so he gets a flat bottom when the blade is tilted.

I've seen articles about using a table saw or a bandsaw for cutting
dovetails but I'm a little initimidated by a 3 hp motor spinning
a 10 or 12 inch carbide tipped saw blade, spinning at 3-5K rpms.
My bandsaw table tilts "foreward" to 50 degrees but only tilts
"backward" about 5 degrees. I could make an angled "table"
for the backward cuts on the bandsaw but the cordless seems like
it will be a lot easier. Tilt the foot for one direction then
turn the board around in the vise and make the other cuts.

With a fine toothed "plywood" blade, the kerf isn't that much
wider than with the DT or dozuki saws and unlike the table saw
method, the bottom of the cut is relatively flat.

This cordless idea has possibilities. If you do any remodeling
a small cordless is probably already in your toy - strike that -
TOOL box. No new toy - err TOOL to buy. If it get's someone
to try "handcut" dovetails my mission will have been accomplished

I'll be adding this to my dovetail instructions pages in a
day or so - if it works on the tails. In the mean time, if
your interested, the instructions are at

www.wood-workers.com/users/charlieb/DovetailDrawer0.html

fun stuff this woodworking thing

charlie b

L

(Layne)

in reply to charlie b on 02/10/2003 9:35 AM

03/10/2003 2:50 PM

On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 10:07:21 -0800, charlie b <[email protected]>
wrote:

>My bandsaw table tilts "foreward" to 50 degrees but only tilts
>"backward" about 5 degrees. I could make an angled "table"
>for the backward cuts on the bandsaw but the cordless seems like

This is exactly how you would cut the pins. You need to make an angled
table. David Charlesworth shows the use of one in his book. Of course
you have to make sure your bandsaw is properly tuned so that the blade
90 degrees front to back. Once the initial table is built cutting DTs
on the bandsaw is a piece of cake. You just have to make sure you stop
short of the line because the blade has a tendency to pull the wood in
over-cutting the line.

Layne

CW

"C Wood"

in reply to charlie b on 02/10/2003 9:35 AM

02/10/2003 4:47 PM


"charlie b" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
: May have found a solution.
:
: A buddy called me last night and asked to borrow my
: little Makita cordless circular saw - you know, the
: one with the 3 or 4 inch blade. This morning, while
: packing it up I looked at a practive board I had
: in the vise - layout lines all ready for cutting.
:

With proper angle calibration, seems like you could do the whole thing
with the circ saw. Pins & Tails. I did my first HC DT 2 nights ago. What
a disater.

: Picture posted in a.b.p.w.
:
: charlie b

Mm

"Myxylplyk"

in reply to charlie b on 02/10/2003 9:35 AM

02/10/2003 5:11 PM


"Norm Underwood" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> <SNIP>
> >
> > So if you've got a small cordless saw handy this
> > may get you to try "hand cut" dovetails.
> >
> > Picture posted in a.b.p.w.
> >
> > charlie b
>
>
> There's an article in an old FWW about using your tablesaw to make the
> cuts. The guy even has the blade re-ground to match the angle of the
> cut so he gets a flat bottom when the blade is tilted.
>
>
People have been using tablesaws and bandsaws to cut dovetails for a long time.
Forrest sells the blades you mentioned.

Myx

NU

"Norm Underwood"

in reply to charlie b on 02/10/2003 9:35 AM

02/10/2003 4:55 PM


<SNIP>
>
> So if you've got a small cordless saw handy this
> may get you to try "hand cut" dovetails.
>
> Picture posted in a.b.p.w.
>
> charlie b


There's an article in an old FWW about using your tablesaw to make the
cuts. The guy even has the blade re-ground to match the angle of the
cut so he gets a flat bottom when the blade is tilted.


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