On 23 Sep, 12:51, ETaylor <[email protected]> wrote:
> Son studying vikings and must have a sword.
<http://codesmiths.com/shed/things/knives/wasters/>
Mine, pictures rather than plans but I'm sure you can work it out.
Blades are beech, the rest is lime (linden/basswood). Most of the work
is done with a spokeshave and block plane. Woodie moulder for the
central fuller. You really need a full tang (blade continues right
through) or a wooden sword will snap clean off at the hilt the first
time it strikes the ground.
Finish is silver wax from the crafts shop. You can go crazy with
carving, gilding and semi-precious stone inlay if you want (eBay
rubies are amazingly cheap these days!)
Most children can easily kill with one of these. That might or might
not be what you intended. Go easy on who you give them to. I wouldn't
make even a wooden edge on a sword for a kid. 1/2 min. diameter on the
edge rounding.
Search for the SCA or LARP rules on how to make something a bit less
hazardous (bundled rattan or foam wraps) if you're planning to
actually contact each other with it.
On Sep 23, 8:35 am, Maxwell Lol <[email protected]> wrote:
> ETaylor <[email protected]> writes:
> > Son studying vikings and must have a sword. Any sites to see designs,
> > plans, etc... Not just viking style but any I can modify.
> > I haven't got a lathe.
> > Thanks Ed.
>
> Vikings uses axes. Still do. :-) The woodworking catalogs sell them
> for a pretty penny. I drool.
>
> Frankly I have no idea what swords they used.
>
> I make my son a two-handed broadsword for Halloween. It was a pine
> blade I used a drawshave on to make the bevel. I put it in a wood
> handle, made with a jigsaw, and wrapped the handle with rope. It
> looked great, and he loved it.
>
> Some safety tips.
> * Very rounded edges!
> * The wooden blade "tang" was inserted into the handle. If you
> swung it hard at someone, the blade would break off.
Nerf sword. Black foam rubber would look just as neat
as silver.
ETaylor wrote:
> Son studying vikings and must have a sword. Any sites to see designs,
> plans, etc... Not just viking style but any I can modify.
> I haven't got a lathe.
> Thanks Ed.
What kind of Neanderthal community do you live in? You are going to give
your son a SWORD and he's going to take it to SCHOOL!
The kid's teacher will be fired, the principal will be skinned, everybody
who heard about this weapon will have to undergo sensitivity training. Bills
will be introduced in your state legislature, marches held, it will be just
awful.
On the other hand, you could be living in Texas where they've just
instituted trap and skeet shooting for high-schoolers.
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/5157131.html
ETaylor wrote:
> Son studying vikings and must have a sword. Any sites to see designs,
> plans, etc... Not just viking style but any I can modify.
> I haven't got a lathe.
> Thanks Ed.
>
Try this link:
<http://www.jorvik-viking-centre.co.uk/acatalog/Costume.html>
"Wooden Sword & Shield Kit
Design and paint your own wooden Viking shield, complete with traceable
design. Plus wooden sword and colouring poster. Paints and crayons are
not included. Ideal for ages 5 to 11."
dadiOH wrote:
> ETaylor wrote:
>
>>> http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/5157131.html
>>>
>>>
>> You might be able to help me, I'm looking for plans to make an AK47.
>> Thanks Ed.
>
> Those are easy. Making the ammunition is harder :)
Agreed. As a senator from New York once said: "We have a three-hundred year
supply of guns, but only a ten-year supply of ammunition. Let's tax bullets
out of existence."
I reload.
HeyBub wrote:
> ETaylor wrote:
>> Son studying vikings and must have a sword. Any sites to see designs,
>> plans, etc... Not just viking style but any I can modify.
>> I haven't got a lathe.
>> Thanks Ed.
>
> What kind of Neanderthal community do you live in? You are going to give
> your son a SWORD and he's going to take it to SCHOOL!
>
> The kid's teacher will be fired, the principal will be skinned, everybody
> who heard about this weapon will have to undergo sensitivity training. Bills
> will be introduced in your state legislature, marches held, it will be just
> awful.
>
> On the other hand, you could be living in Texas where they've just
> instituted trap and skeet shooting for high-schoolers.
>
> http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/5157131.html
>
>
You might be able to help me, I'm looking for plans to make an AK47.
Thanks Ed.
J T wrote:
> Sun, Sep 23, 2007, 9:51pm (EDT+14) [email protected] (ETaylor) just had
> to ask:
> Son studying vikings and must have a sword. Any sites to see designs,
> plans, etc... Not just viking style but any I can modify. I haven't got
> a lathe.
>
> You are on the web, right? Might try looking.
> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=viking+sword
>
>
>
> JOAT
> What is life without challenge and a constant stream of new
> humiliations?
> - Peter Egan
>
I was actually asking for help with diy plans, especially how to attach
the crosspieces.
Ed
Maxwell Lol wrote:
> ETaylor <[email protected]> writes:
>
>> Son studying vikings and must have a sword. Any sites to see designs,
>> plans, etc... Not just viking style but any I can modify.
>> I haven't got a lathe.
>> Thanks Ed.
>
> Vikings uses axes. Still do. :-) The woodworking catalogs sell them
> for a pretty penny. I drool.
>
> Frankly I have no idea what swords they used.
>
> I make my son a two-handed broadsword for Halloween. It was a pine
> blade I used a drawshave on to make the bevel. I put it in a wood
> handle, made with a jigsaw, and wrapped the handle with rope. It
> looked great, and he loved it.
>
> Some safety tips.
> * Very rounded edges!
> * The wooden blade "tang" was inserted into the handle. If you
> swung it hard at someone, the blade would break off.
Did you drill into the handle to fit the tang?
Ed
dadiOH wrote:
> ETaylor wrote:
>> Son studying vikings and must have a sword. Any sites to see
>> designs, plans, etc... Not just viking style but any I can modify.
>> I haven't got a lathe.
>> Thanks Ed.
>
> Swords galore...
> http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=sword&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=w
> i
>
Wow they are swords all right- interesting whether these are modern
incarnations(as seen in the Rings movies) or did they really use designs
like these. But they are fantastic.
Thanks,
Ed
MatthewK wrote:
> * ETaylor <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Son studying vikings and must have a sword. Any sites to see designs,
>> plans, etc... Not just viking style but any I can modify.
>> I haven't got a lathe.
>> Thanks Ed.
>
> You might want to see Dr. Jim Hrisouilas site atar.com he talks about
> forging viking stle swords in his books I believe. He is accesible via
> his forum and sometimes email.
>
> Just remember sticks have been effective weapons before Tubal Cain. I
> like the other guy's idea about the sword fitting in the handle. Maybe
> use a piece of 1/8 inch plywood as a tenon so it would break before it
> someone gets bledgeoned. Round the point over and make sure nobody gets
> "Stabbed" with it.
>
> I imagine you know all this but sticks aren't playthings. Wooden swords
> have been used in combat. Make this thing break easily.
>
> matthew
> ohio
>
Son needs it to kill "monsters"! But at least the stick he picks up, he
uses as a sword... not a gun.
Thanks Ed
Jim Willemin wrote:
> ETaylor <[email protected]> wrote in news:46f65340$0$1462$afc38c87
> @news.optusnet.com.au:
>
>> Son studying vikings and must have a sword. Any sites to see designs,
>> plans, etc... Not just viking style but any I can modify.
>> I haven't got a lathe.
>> Thanks Ed.
>>
>>
>
> Wikipedia is your friend: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viking_sword. It
> looks like the blades were about 3 feet long, maybe 2 inches wide, with a
> groove down the center (a fuller) and a subtle taper. There are quite a
> few places that make replicas that have illustrations on the web:
> http://www.ancientedge.com/product_171_detailed.html
>
> It looks to me like the real challenge would be the little tiny guard and
> the honking big pommel.
>
>
These are more like what I am capable of making.
Thanks Ed.
Curran Copeland wrote:
> "ETaylor" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> J T wrote:
>>> Sun, Sep 23, 2007, 9:51pm (EDT+14) [email protected] (ETaylor) just had
>>> to ask:
>>> Son studying vikings and must have a sword. Any sites to see designs,
>>> plans, etc... Not just viking style but any I can modify. I haven't got
>>> a lathe.
>>>
>>> You are on the web, right? Might try looking.
>>> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=viking+sword
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> JOAT
>>> What is life without challenge and a constant stream of new
>>> humiliations?
>>> - Peter Egan
>>>
>> I was actually asking for help with diy plans, especially how to attach
>> the crosspieces.
>> Ed
>
> On the toy swords I make I attach the crosspieces by cutting through the
> guard with a mortise machine and sliding the "blade" through. I glue the
> guard to the blade and then drill a hole and put a dowel rod through to hold
> it in place. I use a round over bit to "edge" the blade and point and round
> the point to keep it from being sharp. The last one I made was lamanated
> oak and hickory blade with maple guard. and wieghted hilt and pommel to
> balance the blade. The hilt was rope wraped for better grip.
>
>
Thank you Curran,
I am presuming you drill thru the guard to put dowel through so it must
be minimum about 1/2" thick?
Cheers Ed
Andy Dingley wrote:
> On 23 Sep, 12:51, ETaylor <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Son studying vikings and must have a sword.
>
> <http://codesmiths.com/shed/things/knives/wasters/>
> Mine, pictures rather than plans but I'm sure you can work it out.
>
> Blades are beech, the rest is lime (linden/basswood). Most of the work
> is done with a spokeshave and block plane. Woodie moulder for the
> central fuller. You really need a full tang (blade continues right
> through) or a wooden sword will snap clean off at the hilt the first
> time it strikes the ground.
>
> Finish is silver wax from the crafts shop. You can go crazy with
> carving, gilding and semi-precious stone inlay if you want (eBay
> rubies are amazingly cheap these days!)
>
> Most children can easily kill with one of these. That might or might
> not be what you intended. Go easy on who you give them to. I wouldn't
> make even a wooden edge on a sword for a kid. 1/2 min. diameter on the
> edge rounding.
>
> Search for the SCA or LARP rules on how to make something a bit less
> hazardous (bundled rattan or foam wraps) if you're planning to
> actually contact each other with it.
>
Thanks everyone for your contributions. I have taken a bit from here and
bit from there and will post my finished sword when I'm done.
Cheers Ed.
ETaylor wrote:
>> http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/5157131.html
>>
>>
> You might be able to help me, I'm looking for plans to make an AK47.
> Thanks Ed.
Those are easy. Making the ammunition is harder :)
--
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Sun, Sep 23, 2007, 9:51pm (EDT+14) [email protected] (ETaylor) just had
to ask:
Son studying vikings and must have a sword. Any sites to see designs,
plans, etc... Not just viking style but any I can modify. I haven't got
a lathe.
You are on the web, right? Might try looking.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=viking+sword
JOAT
What is life without challenge and a constant stream of new
humiliations?
- Peter Egan
Maxwell Lol <[email protected]> writes:
> Sorta. It was a mortise-like joint. The handle was two pieces, split
> in half, and I cut a half mortise into the inner side.
>
> If the mortise is weak enough, it should break off in case of violence. :-)
>
> This was 25 years ago. I'm fuzzy on the details.
The handle was not like the pictures of viking swords. That is, it was
much wider than the blade, and the handle was big enough to be was two
handed. I think I used 2 pieces of 1 by 6 pine, and the mortise/slot
was cut into each half.
I used a jig or scroll saw to cut the handle into the basic shape, and
when the blade's "tang" was inserted, I screwed and glued the two
pieces together. Then I wrapped rope/cord around the handle, covering
up the screws. It was a very fast project to do. Something like an hour.
ETaylor <[email protected]> writes:
> > Some safety tips.
> > * Very rounded edges!
> > * The wooden blade "tang" was inserted into the handle. If you
> > swung it hard at someone, the blade would break off.
> Did you drill into the handle to fit the tang?
> Ed
Sorta. It was a mortise-like joint. The handle was two pieces, split
in half, and I cut a half mortise into the inner side.
If the mortise is weak enough, it should break off in case of violence. :-)
This was 25 years ago. I'm fuzzy on the details.
I used silver paint on the wood.
ETaylor <[email protected]> writes:
> Son studying vikings and must have a sword. Any sites to see designs,
> plans, etc... Not just viking style but any I can modify.
> I haven't got a lathe.
> Thanks Ed.
Vikings uses axes. Still do. :-) The woodworking catalogs sell them
for a pretty penny. I drool.
Frankly I have no idea what swords they used.
I make my son a two-handed broadsword for Halloween. It was a pine
blade I used a drawshave on to make the bevel. I put it in a wood
handle, made with a jigsaw, and wrapped the handle with rope. It
looked great, and he loved it.
Some safety tips.
* Very rounded edges!
* The wooden blade "tang" was inserted into the handle. If you
swung it hard at someone, the blade would break off.
* ETaylor <[email protected]> wrote:
> Son studying vikings and must have a sword. Any sites to see designs,
> plans, etc... Not just viking style but any I can modify.
> I haven't got a lathe.
> Thanks Ed.
You might want to see Dr. Jim Hrisouilas site atar.com he talks about
forging viking stle swords in his books I believe. He is accesible via
his forum and sometimes email.
Just remember sticks have been effective weapons before Tubal Cain. I
like the other guy's idea about the sword fitting in the handle. Maybe
use a piece of 1/8 inch plywood as a tenon so it would break before it
someone gets bledgeoned. Round the point over and make sure nobody gets
"Stabbed" with it.
I imagine you know all this but sticks aren't playthings. Wooden swords
have been used in combat. Make this thing break easily.
matthew
ohio
ETaylor <[email protected]> wrote in news:46f65340$0$1462$afc38c87
@news.optusnet.com.au:
> Son studying vikings and must have a sword. Any sites to see designs,
> plans, etc... Not just viking style but any I can modify.
> I haven't got a lathe.
> Thanks Ed.
>
>
Wikipedia is your friend: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viking_sword. It
looks like the blades were about 3 feet long, maybe 2 inches wide, with a
groove down the center (a fuller) and a subtle taper. There are quite a
few places that make replicas that have illustrations on the web:
http://www.ancientedge.com/product_171_detailed.html
It looks to me like the real challenge would be the little tiny guard and
the honking big pommel.
"ETaylor" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>J T wrote:
>> Sun, Sep 23, 2007, 9:51pm (EDT+14) [email protected] (ETaylor) just had
>> to ask:
>> Son studying vikings and must have a sword. Any sites to see designs,
>> plans, etc... Not just viking style but any I can modify. I haven't got
>> a lathe.
>>
>> You are on the web, right? Might try looking.
>> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=viking+sword
>>
>>
>>
>> JOAT
>> What is life without challenge and a constant stream of new
>> humiliations?
>> - Peter Egan
>>
> I was actually asking for help with diy plans, especially how to attach
> the crosspieces.
> Ed
On the toy swords I make I attach the crosspieces by cutting through the
guard with a mortise machine and sliding the "blade" through. I glue the
guard to the blade and then drill a hole and put a dowel rod through to hold
it in place. I use a round over bit to "edge" the blade and point and round
the point to keep it from being sharp. The last one I made was lamanated
oak and hickory blade with maple guard. and wieghted hilt and pommel to
balance the blade. The hilt was rope wraped for better grip.
ETaylor wrote:
> dadiOH wrote:
>> ETaylor wrote:
>>> Son studying vikings and must have a sword. Any sites to see
>>> designs, plans, etc... Not just viking style but any I can modify.
>>> I haven't got a lathe.
>>> Thanks Ed.
>>
>> Swords galore...
>> http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=sword&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=w
>> i
>>
> Wow they are swords all right- interesting whether these are modern
> incarnations(as seen in the Rings movies) or did they really use
> designs like these. But they are fantastic.
> Thanks,
Here's an example of a real wooden sword. When I say "real", Miyamoto
Musashi (arguably the greatest swordsman who ever lived) is reputed to
have used similar swords to kill a number of swordmasters who were
using Japanese steel swords.
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ETaylor wrote:
> Son studying vikings and must have a sword. Any sites to see
> designs, plans, etc... Not just viking style but any I can modify.
> I haven't got a lathe.
> Thanks Ed.
Swords galore...
http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=sword&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=w
i
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"ETaylor" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Curran Copeland wrote:
>> "ETaylor" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> J T wrote:
>>>> Sun, Sep 23, 2007, 9:51pm (EDT+14) [email protected] (ETaylor) just had
>>>> to ask:
>>>> Son studying vikings and must have a sword. Any sites to see designs,
>>>> plans, etc... Not just viking style but any I can modify. I haven't got
>>>> a lathe.
>>>>
>>>> You are on the web, right? Might try looking.
>>>> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=viking+sword
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> JOAT
>>>> What is life without challenge and a constant stream of new
>>>> humiliations?
>>>> - Peter Egan
>>>>
>>> I was actually asking for help with diy plans, especially how to attach
>>> the crosspieces.
>>> Ed
>>
>> On the toy swords I make I attach the crosspieces by cutting through the
>> guard with a mortise machine and sliding the "blade" through. I glue the
>> guard to the blade and then drill a hole and put a dowel rod through to
>> hold it in place. I use a round over bit to "edge" the blade and point
>> and round the point to keep it from being sharp. The last one I made
>> was lamanated oak and hickory blade with maple guard. and wieghted hilt
>> and pommel to balance the blade. The hilt was rope wraped for better
>> grip.
> Thank you Curran,
> I am presuming you drill thru the guard to put dowel through so it must be
> minimum about 1/2" thick?
>
Blades 1/2 to7/8 inches thick depending on sword, guards 1/4 to 1 inch
thicker then blade. In the thinner guards I taper the mortise to add extra
strength but doubt that this is necessary on one that would just be used as
a kids toy. On the "kids" toy swords that I sell at shows I cut 5/8" poplar
to width (about 2 1/4")cut the grip down to about 1 1/4" give or take. I use
a section of 2x to make the guard. cut the 2x into sections the right length
and height and mortise them, then I cut the shape of the guard and slide the
guard on to the blade with a bit of glue. put in dowel (round over blade and
hilt before putting on guard). You now have a sword fit for a Jr Knight. On
the better swords I some times laminate (sp) the guard. Swords are sold
only to parents with a warning on the use of the sword,