KB

Keith Boeheim

21/11/2005 1:23 PM

Wood Staining Question

I have completed building a large red oak entertainment center and am
ready to stain and finish it. It is made out of 3/4' plywood carcase,
1/4" backs and solid 3/4" faceframes. I took a scrap piece of each and
the stain came out slightly different on each piece. The 1/4" has a
redder tint than the other material and the 3/4" is slightly lighter
than the solid faceframes. I applied 3 cotes on the 3/4" ply to try and
get the same as the one coat on the solid faceframe but no luck.
I realize that each type of material comes from different trees so there
will likely be a variation. Do I correct this by simply custom mixing
for each of the 3 different types of wood material so they come out the
same or is there a different fix?

Thanks

keith


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KB

Keith Boeheim

in reply to Keith Boeheim on 21/11/2005 1:23 PM

21/11/2005 3:23 PM

Leon wrote:
> "Keith Boeheim" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>I have completed building a large red oak entertainment center and am ready
>>to stain and finish it. It is made out of 3/4' plywood carcase, 1/4" backs
>>and solid 3/4" faceframes. I took a scrap piece of each and the stain came
>>out slightly different on each piece. The 1/4" has a redder tint than the
>>other material and the 3/4" is slightly lighter than the solid faceframes.
>>I applied 3 cotes on the 3/4" ply to try and get the same as the one coat
>>on the solid faceframe but no luck.
>>I realize that each type of material comes from different trees so there
>>will likely be a variation. Do I correct this by simply custom mixing for
>>each of the 3 different types of wood material so they come out the same
>>or is there a different fix?
>
>
>
> Be sure to sand your scraps before staining as plywood typically will tend
> to come out a darker shade than regular solid wood. I do this all the time
> and really find little difference I color or shade. Are you using a good
> quality stain? You might also switch to a gel stain to get more consistent
> color results.
>
>
I sanded both the project and the scraps with 150 grit and am using
minwax oil stain.

keith

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to Keith Boeheim on 21/11/2005 1:23 PM

21/11/2005 2:45 PM


"Keith Boeheim" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I have completed building a large red oak entertainment center and am ready
>to stain and finish it. It is made out of 3/4' plywood carcase, 1/4" backs
>and solid 3/4" faceframes. I took a scrap piece of each and the stain came
>out slightly different on each piece. The 1/4" has a redder tint than the
>other material and the 3/4" is slightly lighter than the solid faceframes.
>I applied 3 cotes on the 3/4" ply to try and get the same as the one coat
>on the solid faceframe but no luck.
> I realize that each type of material comes from different trees so there
> will likely be a variation. Do I correct this by simply custom mixing for
> each of the 3 different types of wood material so they come out the same
> or is there a different fix?


Be sure to sand your scraps before staining as plywood typically will tend
to come out a darker shade than regular solid wood. I do this all the time
and really find little difference I color or shade. Are you using a good
quality stain? You might also switch to a gel stain to get more consistent
color results.

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to Keith Boeheim on 21/11/2005 1:23 PM

21/11/2005 3:38 PM


"Keith Boeheim" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Leon wrote:
>> "Keith Boeheim" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>
>>>I have completed building a large red oak entertainment center and am
>>>ready to stain and finish it. It is made out of 3/4' plywood carcase,
>>>1/4" backs and solid 3/4" faceframes. I took a scrap piece of each and
>>>the stain came out slightly different on each piece. The 1/4" has a
>>>redder tint than the other material and the 3/4" is slightly lighter than
>>>the solid faceframes. I applied 3 cotes on the 3/4" ply to try and get
>>>the same as the one coat on the solid faceframe but no luck.
>>>I realize that each type of material comes from different trees so there
>>>will likely be a variation. Do I correct this by simply custom mixing for
>>>each of the 3 different types of wood material so they come out the same
>>>or is there a different fix?
>>
>>
>>
>> Be sure to sand your scraps before staining as plywood typically will
>> tend to come out a darker shade than regular solid wood. I do this all
>> the time and really find little difference I color or shade. Are you
>> using a good quality stain? You might also switch to a gel stain to get
>> more consistent color results.
> I sanded both the project and the scraps with 150 grit and am using minwax
> oil stain.


I always go to 180 grit and avoid Miniwax stains and finishes like the
plague as I always get inconsistent results even on the same piece of wood.
I prefer General Finishes, Bartley finishes, and Zar products, in that
order.



Dd

"Dave"

in reply to Keith Boeheim on 21/11/2005 1:23 PM

21/11/2005 3:50 PM

What do you think about Varithene stains?


"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Keith Boeheim" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Leon wrote:
>>> "Keith Boeheim" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>>>I have completed building a large red oak entertainment center and am
>>>>ready to stain and finish it. It is made out of 3/4' plywood carcase,
>>>>1/4" backs and solid 3/4" faceframes. I took a scrap piece of each and
>>>>the stain came out slightly different on each piece. The 1/4" has a
>>>>redder tint than the other material and the 3/4" is slightly lighter
>>>>than the solid faceframes. I applied 3 cotes on the 3/4" ply to try and
>>>>get the same as the one coat on the solid faceframe but no luck.
>>>>I realize that each type of material comes from different trees so there
>>>>will likely be a variation. Do I correct this by simply custom mixing
>>>>for each of the 3 different types of wood material so they come out the
>>>>same or is there a different fix?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Be sure to sand your scraps before staining as plywood typically will
>>> tend to come out a darker shade than regular solid wood. I do this all
>>> the time and really find little difference I color or shade. Are you
>>> using a good quality stain? You might also switch to a gel stain to get
>>> more consistent color results.
>> I sanded both the project and the scraps with 150 grit and am using
>> minwax oil stain.
>
>
> I always go to 180 grit and avoid Miniwax stains and finishes like the
> plague as I always get inconsistent results even on the same piece of
> wood.
> I prefer General Finishes, Bartley finishes, and Zar products, in that
> order.
>
>
>
>


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