slow planer feed rate

On 9/4/2016 11:27 AM, Swingman wrote:
> On 9/3/2016 2:53 PM, John McGaw wrote:
>
>> The best thing I've found for cleaning rubber rollers is pretty odd
>> stuff: blanket wash solvent. This is used in printing plants to clean
>> and recondition the rubber blankets used in the offset printing process.
>> I worked at a place where we had literally hundreds of tape recorders
>> and this solvent was used to clean and recondition the rubber pinch
>> rollers. Worked a treat. The only downside is that it is only available
>> in large containers but we use the expedient of going to the local
>> newspaper's printing plant and simply asking for a pint bottle to be
>> filled. My boss always did that and I don't know if he was using any
>> sort of inducements but he always came back with some. Fortunately my
>> present planer uses a serrated metal infeed roller and a 'frosted' metal
>> outfeed and doesn't take a lot to clean.
>
> Yep. Hired on to do some part time grunt work in the college printing
> facility as a student .. before I snapped to making more money running a
> weekly poker game/shooting pool. ;)
>
> IIRC, that stuff was likely aromatic solvent based ... maybe naphthalene?
> ... because it smelled like moth balls to me, a chemistry major.
>
> Used 99% isopropyl alcohol on all my recording studio tape deck rubber
> rollers for over 25 years and never had to replace one. Was also excellent
> for cleaning the recording heads, and was inexpensive at the corner drug
> store. But even that could also get expensive cleaning offset printing
> equipment.
>

The stuff we used was definitely 'aromatic solvent' and petroleum-based but
it did not seem to contain naphthalene. Actually it smelled pretty pleasant
to me. We used alcohol for cleaning heads and guides but found it less
effective at softening and taking the glaze off of pinch rollers than the
blanket wash.

On 9/3/2016 2:25 PM, Swingman wrote:
> On 9/1/2016 7:14 PM, sundance wrote:
>> replying to dhyde44, sundance wrote:
>> My 12 1/2 inch delta planer would not feed unless I pushed the stock though
>> and then pulled from the out-feed side. Cleaned the rollers with lacquer
>> thinner and rag,
>
>
> Have to do the same thing to my grrippers periodically.
>
> For those paying attention, alcohol (any kind) generally works as well,
> and, depending upon the material, might be less likely to harm the rollers.
>

The best thing I've found for cleaning rubber rollers is pretty odd stuff:
blanket wash solvent. This is used in printing plants to clean and
recondition the rubber blankets used in the offset printing process. I
worked at a place where we had literally hundreds of tape recorders and
this solvent was used to clean and recondition the rubber pinch rollers.
Worked a treat. The only downside is that it is only available in large
containers but we use the expedient of going to the local newspaper's
printing plant and simply asking for a pint bottle to be filled. My boss
always did that and I don't know if he was using any sort of inducements
but he always came back with some. Fortunately my present planer uses a
serrated metal infeed roller and a 'frosted' metal outfeed and doesn't take
a lot to clean.

On 9/3/2016 2:53 PM, John McGaw wrote:

> The best thing I've found for cleaning rubber rollers is pretty odd
> stuff: blanket wash solvent. This is used in printing plants to clean
> and recondition the rubber blankets used in the offset printing process.
> I worked at a place where we had literally hundreds of tape recorders
> and this solvent was used to clean and recondition the rubber pinch
> rollers. Worked a treat. The only downside is that it is only available
> in large containers but we use the expedient of going to the local
> newspaper's printing plant and simply asking for a pint bottle to be
> filled. My boss always did that and I don't know if he was using any
> sort of inducements but he always came back with some. Fortunately my
> present planer uses a serrated metal infeed roller and a 'frosted' metal
> outfeed and doesn't take a lot to clean.

Yep. Hired on to do some part time grunt work in the college printing
facility as a student .. before I snapped to making more money running a
weekly poker game/shooting pool. ;)

IIRC, that stuff was likely aromatic solvent based ... maybe
naphthalene? ... because it smelled like moth balls to me, a chemistry
major.

Used 99% isopropyl alcohol on all my recording studio tape deck rubber
rollers for over 25 years and never had to replace one. Was also
excellent for cleaning the recording heads, and was inexpensive at the
corner drug store. But even that could also get expensive cleaning
offset printing equipment.

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replying to dhyde44, sundance wrote:
My 12 1/2 inch delta planer would not feed unless I pushed the stock though
and then pulled from the out-feed side. Cleaned the rollers with lacquer
thinner and rag, and simonized the bed. It now works like it was new again.
Remarkable!

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On 9/4/16 9:27 AM, Swingman wrote:
> On 9/3/2016 2:53 PM, John McGaw wrote:
>
>> The best thing I've found for cleaning rubber rollers is pretty odd
>> stuff: blanket wash solvent. This is used in printing plants to clean
>> and recondition the rubber blankets used in the offset printing process.
>> I worked at a place where we had literally hundreds of tape recorders
>> and this solvent was used to clean and recondition the rubber pinch
>> rollers. Worked a treat. The only downside is that it is only available
>> in large containers but we use the expedient of going to the local
>> newspaper's printing plant and simply asking for a pint bottle to be
>> filled. My boss always did that and I don't know if he was using any
>> sort of inducements but he always came back with some. Fortunately my
>> present planer uses a serrated metal infeed roller and a 'frosted' metal
>> outfeed and doesn't take a lot to clean.
>
> Yep. Hired on to do some part time grunt work in the college printing
> facility as a student .. before I snapped to making more money running a
> weekly poker game/shooting pool. ;)
>
> IIRC, that stuff was likely aromatic solvent based ... maybe
> naphthalene? ... because it smelled like moth balls to me, a chemistry
> major.
>
> Used 99% isopropyl alcohol on all my recording studio tape deck rubber
> rollers for over 25 years and never had to replace one. Was also
> excellent for cleaning the recording heads, and was inexpensive at the
> corner drug store. But even that could also get expensive cleaning
> offset printing equipment.
>
+1

Where I work we (used to) have 40 or so super density 32-track
reel-to-reel recorders for 512 Mb/sec astronomy data. I had always been
told that alcohol was bad news for capstans and rollers (will eventually
crack the rubber), but the recorder operators used essentially pure
isopropyl to wipe everything clean every few hours. Those recorders were
finicky, but the parts never failed due to the cleaning solution. When
we upgraded the technology, it was somewhat sad seeing all those half
million dollar units put to pasture in the auction yard and selling for
a few $ each.

-BR

On 9/5/16 9:58 AM, Brewster wrote:
> On 9/4/16 9:27 AM, Swingman wrote:
>> On 9/3/2016 2:53 PM, John McGaw wrote:
>>
>>> The best thing I've found for cleaning rubber rollers is pretty odd
>>> stuff: blanket wash solvent. This is used in printing plants to clean
>>> and recondition the rubber blankets used in the offset printing process.
>>> I worked at a place where we had literally hundreds of tape recorders
>>> and this solvent was used to clean and recondition the rubber pinch
>>> rollers. Worked a treat. The only downside is that it is only available
>>> in large containers but we use the expedient of going to the local
>>> newspaper's printing plant and simply asking for a pint bottle to be
>>> filled. My boss always did that and I don't know if he was using any
>>> sort of inducements but he always came back with some. Fortunately my
>>> present planer uses a serrated metal infeed roller and a 'frosted' metal
>>> outfeed and doesn't take a lot to clean.
>>
>> Yep. Hired on to do some part time grunt work in the college printing
>> facility as a student .. before I snapped to making more money running a
>> weekly poker game/shooting pool. ;)
>>
>> IIRC, that stuff was likely aromatic solvent based ... maybe
>> naphthalene? ... because it smelled like moth balls to me, a chemistry
>> major.
>>
>> Used 99% isopropyl alcohol on all my recording studio tape deck rubber
>> rollers for over 25 years and never had to replace one. Was also
>> excellent for cleaning the recording heads, and was inexpensive at the
>> corner drug store. But even that could also get expensive cleaning
>> offset printing equipment.
>>
> +1
>
> Where I work we (used to) have 40 or so super density 32-track
> reel-to-reel recorders for 512 Mb/sec astronomy data. I had always been
> told that alcohol was bad news for capstans and rollers (will eventually
> crack the rubber), but the recorder operators used essentially pure
> isopropyl to wipe everything clean every few hours. Those recorders were
> finicky, but the parts never failed due to the cleaning solution. When
> we upgraded the technology, it was somewhat sad seeing all those half
> million dollar units put to pasture in the auction yard and selling for
> a few $ each.
>
> -BR
>

I lost count.... actually I'm quite certain it would've been impossible
to actually count the number of tape heads and pinch rollers and
capstans and other video and audio tape recorder parts I cleaned in my
previous tenure as a broadcast technician and facilities manager at a
college that taught field and studio audio and video production.

I'm not sure where the old legend about rubbing alcohol drying up the
rubber parts of tape recorders got started or how it got so vastly
spread, but in my experience the alcohol would actually soften up
rollers that got too hard and slick and let the tape slip. That would
get you another few hours of recording until you could replace the
rollers, which is what should be done before they even get to that point.

However, the real problem with using isopropyl alcohol to clean parts of
tape recorders was when the alcohol would drip down into lubricated
bearings of guide rollers or capstans. The alcohol would dry up the the
lube lickety split and cause premature failure.

This wasn't much of an issue for vertically mounted tape recorders like
reel-to-reel audio multi-track machines, but it was a big concern for
horizontal video tape recorders simply because of gravity.

One of the best inventions ever made to stimulate the consumer VCR
repair industry was the head cleaning cassette tape. This was the
cassette with cloth tape and a hole where you squirted liquid head
cleaner into, then "played" the tape in your VCR to clean the heads and
parts. When the dampened tape ran through the capstan and pinch roller,
they both acted like an old wringer washer and squeezed all the alcohol
out from the cloth which immediately ran down into the bearings and
dried them out. I recognized that squeak and could diagnose the problem
without even opening up the machine.

I would use those head cleaning tapes for emergency cleanings of the
camcorders under my charge, but I would always make sure they were
standing up vertically first.


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On 9/1/2016 7:14 PM, sundance wrote:
> replying to dhyde44, sundance wrote:
> My 12 1/2 inch delta planer would not feed unless I pushed the stock though
> and then pulled from the out-feed side. Cleaned the rollers with lacquer
> thinner and rag,


Have to do the same thing to my grrippers periodically.

For those paying attention, alcohol (any kind) generally works as well,
and, depending upon the material, might be less likely to harm the rollers.

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