Hi all,
I am going to make a box to hold matches, and would like to build in a
durable strike plate. Do any of you know what material would be
suitable for the purpose? I know next to nothing about them, but I am
guessing that "safety matches" require something specific from the
strike surface: does anybody know what?
Obviously, I'm trying to avoid the obvious solution of providing a slot
in which we would slide the strike from the cardboard box the matches
came in.
Many thanks for any replies.
Kitto
(no email, sorry...)
In article <[email protected]>,
david <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>> I'm also toying with the issue of where to place the strike plate. I
>> suppose that affixing it under the lid would be hazardous (the risk
>> being that something could fall and light the rest of the matches in
>> the box). Under the box would be inconvenient. The top, front or sides
>>
>I've kept a piece of sandpaper in a container with strike-anywhere
>matches for camping, for as long as I can remember, without any
>incidents of accidental combustion. While it may be possible for the
>striker on the inside of the lid to be a danger, It wouldn't keep me
>from sleeping at night if this box were in my house.
>
>I also second the idea of using a section from a small file as the
>striker since the strike-anywhere matches are easy enough to find
>
>-David
He wasn't talking about 'spontaneous' light-off. But when actually _striking_
a light, and having a 'stray' bit of scraped-off flaming material land on
one of the matches inside the box, setting off the rest of the box.
It _is_ a valid consideration.
Thank you everybody for the rapid and helpful responses. I'm somewhat
embarrassed, as I should have found for myself the information on the
chemical reaction involved with safety matches...
I'm still undecided whether I'll only accomodate strike-anywhere
matches (I like the idea of a file), or whether I'll fashion some kind
of slot to hold the strike plate from the original cardboard box of
safety matches. I need to check just how readily available are
strike-anywhere matches.
I'm also toying with the issue of where to place the strike plate. I
suppose that affixing it under the lid would be hazardous (the risk
being that something could fall and light the rest of the matches in
the box). Under the box would be inconvenient. The top, front or sides
would be an eyesore (though if the material is a metal file, perhaps
not, hmm...). I'm considering placing the strikeplate in a removable
frame which rests above the matches themselves. Anybody have any
suggestions or advice?
Many thanks! Oh and feel free to tell me it's just a damn match box,
and to slap it together, already! :-)
-Kitto
(sorry, no email)
[email protected] wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I am going to make a box to hold matches, and would like to build in a
> durable strike plate. Do any of you know what material would be
> suitable for the purpose? I know next to nothing about them, but I am
> guessing that "safety matches" require something specific from the
> strike surface: does anybody know what?
See:
http://www.madsci.org/posts/archives/aug97/867070080.Ch.r.html
--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA
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[email protected] wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I am going to make a box to hold matches, and would like to build in a
> durable strike plate. Do any of you know what material would be
> suitable for the purpose? I know next to nothing about them, but I am
> guessing that "safety matches" require something specific from the
> strike surface: does anybody know what?
>
> Obviously, I'm trying to avoid the obvious solution of providing a slot
> in which we would slide the strike from the cardboard box the matches
> came in.
>
> Many thanks for any replies.
>
> Kitto
> (no email, sorry...)
Safety matches require a "scratch" surface with red phosporus in it.
Since there is
no phosporous in the match head. As the surface is used the material
gets used up
so the surface has a limited life. Either go with the old white tiped
matches,
"strike anywhere" or use the box side as srtiker.
...lew...
[email protected] wrote:
> I'm still undecided whether I'll only accomodate strike-anywhere
> matches (I like the idea of a file), or whether I'll fashion some kind
> of slot to hold the strike plate from the original cardboard box of
> safety matches. I need to check just how readily available are
> strike-anywhere matches.
According to Diamond's web page, you should be able to find them at most
grocery stores. A camping supply outlet would be another place to
purchase them. If you have a problem locating them here's an on-line
source:
http://www.emergencyresources.com/er_p11.html
--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA
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<[email protected]> wrote in message news:<011120031852261452%[email protected]>...
> Hi all,
>
> I am going to make a box to hold matches, and would like to build in a
> durable strike plate. Do any of you know what material would be
> suitable for the purpose?
The strikeplate has chemicals in it that you don't want to mess with!
http://www.madsci.org/posts/archives/aug97/867070080.Ch.r.html Bill
Business card size diamond sharpener - or a piece of sandpaper.
Bob S.
<[email protected]> wrote in message news:011120031852261452%[email protected]...
> Hi all,
>
> I am going to make a box to hold matches, and would like to build in a
> durable strike plate. Do any of you know what material would be
> suitable for the purpose? I know next to nothing about them, but I am
> guessing that "safety matches" require something specific from the
> strike surface: does anybody know what?
>
> Obviously, I'm trying to avoid the obvious solution of providing a slot
> in which we would slide the strike from the cardboard box the matches
> came in.
>
> Many thanks for any replies.
>
> Kitto
> (no email, sorry...)
Bob S. responds:
>Business card size diamond sharpener - or a piece of sandpaper.
>
>Bob S.
>
><[email protected]> wrote in message news:011120031852261452%[email protected]...
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I am going to make a box to hold matches, and would like to build in a
>> durable strike plate. Do any of you know what material would be
>> suitable for the purpose? I know next to nothing about them, but I am
>> guessing that "safety matches" require something specific from the
>> strike surface: does anybody know what?
Some years ago, I built a matchbox for fireplace matches. It had a strike plate
on its bottom...I used, IIRC, 220 or 320 grit wet and dry for that, contact
cemented in place.
A friend has been using it off and on for years now, and all is well. When it
goe, replacement is simple.
Charlie Self
"Politics: A strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. The
conduct of public affairs for private advantage. " Ambrose Bierce
On 3/12/2018 8:14 PM, jay wrote:
> replying to Charlie Self, jay wrote:
>> "Politics: A strife of interests masquerading as a contest of
>> principles. The
> conduct of public affairs for private advantage. " Ambrose Bierce Bierce
> is one of the most striking wits America ever produced. great quote.
>
It only took 15 years to get a response. The internet sure speeds
things along.
Has anyone heard from Charlie? He used to be very active here years
ago. I miss JOAT too, he had some interesting perspectives on life.
replying to Ed Pawlowski, Bob S. wrote:
I correspond with Charlie on a fairly regular basis and just heard from him
today. Having some senior citizen problems but he's still kicking and writing
(novel). I'll pass along to him that you asked about him. I'm sure that will
help make his day.
--
for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/woodworking/strike-plate-for-safety-matches-165666-.htm
replying to Charlie Self, jay wrote:
> "Politics: A strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. The
conduct of public affairs for private advantage. " Ambrose Bierce
Bierce is one of the most striking wits America ever produced. great quote.
--
for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/woodworking/strike-plate-for-safety-matches-165666-.htm
replying to Charlie Self, Cerise Rowan wrote:
thank you, the surface provided on matches always wears out... I thought
someone must have figured this out..... saw a nice idea on another site, used
a canning type jar for the matches the circular part holding a piece of sand
paper in place and easily replaceable... nice for those of us in humid areas
too, paper holders don't keep wooden matches dry...
--
for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/woodworking/strike-plate-for-safety-matches-165666-.htm
But those aren't safty matches.
"Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Some years ago, I built a matchbox for fireplace matches. It had a strike
plate
> on its bottom...I used, IIRC, 220 or 320 grit wet and dry for that,
contact
> cemented in place.
>
> A friend has been using it off and on for years now, and all is well. When
it
> goe, replacement is simple.
>
> Charlie Self
> "Politics: A strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles.
The
> conduct of public affairs for private advantage. " Ambrose Bierce
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Won't work. Read it again. SAFETY MATCHES.
"Bob S." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Business card size diamond sharpener - or a piece of sandpaper.
>
> Bob S.
>
> <[email protected]> wrote in message news:011120031852261452%[email protected]...
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I am going to make a box to hold matches, and would like to build in a
> > durable strike plate. Do any of you know what material would be
> > suitable for the purpose? I know next to nothing about them, but I am
> > guessing that "safety matches" require something specific from the
> > strike surface: does anybody know what?
> >
> > Obviously, I'm trying to avoid the obvious solution of providing a slot
> > in which we would slide the strike from the cardboard box the matches
> > came in.
> >
> > Many thanks for any replies.
> >
> > Kitto
> > (no email, sorry...)
>
>
<[email protected]> wrote in news:011120031852261452%[email protected]:
> I am going to make a box to hold matches, and would like to build in a
> durable strike plate. Do any of you know what material would be
> suitable for the purpose? I know next to nothing about them, but I am
> guessing that "safety matches" require something specific from the
> strike surface: does anybody know what?
The match head is coated with potassium chlorate, and the strike surface is
covered with red phosphorus. Without the phosphorus, you won't get the
matches to light.
http://jchemed.chem.wisc.edu/JCESoft/CCA/CCA3/MAIN/MATCHES/PAGE1.HTM
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> Most
> smokers these days use lighters and gas stoves have spark ignition.
>
You tweaked my memory. There was once a study, who knows how good, that
said smokers who used lighters had an even higher cancer risk than those
who didn't. Something about the hydrocarbons, IIRC. It made me stick to
matches (until I quit) :-).
--
Where ARE those Iraqi WMDs?
Hi Kitto,
You're correct in that safety matches do need something from the striking
surface. Dunno what it is, but I've managed to strike safety matches on
normal - not toughened - window glass in an emergency. It's not that easy,
since normal glass is pretty smooth, but you might try a piece of frosted
glass.
No, I'm taking the piss!
Let us know how it goes.
Cheers
Frank
<[email protected]> wrote in message news:011120031852261452%[email protected]...
> Hi all,
>
> I am going to make a box to hold matches, and would like to build in a
> durable strike plate. Do any of you know what material would be
> suitable for the purpose? I know next to nothing about them, but I am
> guessing that "safety matches" require something specific from the
> strike surface: does anybody know what?
>
> Obviously, I'm trying to avoid the obvious solution of providing a slot
> in which we would slide the strike from the cardboard box the matches
> came in.
>
> Many thanks for any replies.
>
> Kitto
> (no email, sorry...)
In article <[email protected]>,
Murray Peterson <[email protected]> wrote:
><[email protected]> wrote in news:011120031852261452%[email protected]:
>
>> I am going to make a box to hold matches, and would like to build in a
>> durable strike plate. Do any of you know what material would be
>> suitable for the purpose? I know next to nothing about them, but I am
>> guessing that "safety matches" require something specific from the
>> strike surface: does anybody know what?
>
>The match head is coated with potassium chlorate, and the strike surface is
>covered with red phosphorus. Without the phosphorus, you won't get the
>matches to light.
>
>http://jchemed.chem.wisc.edu/JCESoft/CCA/CCA3/MAIN/MATCHES/PAGE1.HTM
Just a piece of trivia: You won't get the match to ignite with a
"normal" strike, however, with enough friction & heat, you CAN light a
safety match on a suitqble surface. If you try a regular book match
and strike it fast enough, it is possible to light it on a dollar
bill.
--
Larry Wasserman Baltimore, Maryland
[email protected]
> I'm also toying with the issue of where to place the strike plate. I
> suppose that affixing it under the lid would be hazardous (the risk
> being that something could fall and light the rest of the matches in
> the box). Under the box would be inconvenient. The top, front or sides
>
I've kept a piece of sandpaper in a container with strike-anywhere
matches for camping, for as long as I can remember, without any
incidents of accidental combustion. While it may be possible for the
striker on the inside of the lid to be a danger, It wouldn't keep me
from sleeping at night if this box were in my house.
I also second the idea of using a section from a small file as the
striker since the strike-anywhere matches are easy enough to find
-David
On Sat, 01 Nov 2003 18:52:26 -0500, <[email protected]> wrote:
>I am going to make a box to hold matches, and would like to build in a
>durable strike plate.
Use the extra-long cook's matches. They're non-safety (assuming you
don't live in some nanny-state) and generally better as matches. Most
smokers these days use lighters and gas stoves have spark ignition. If
you're still using matches, chances ar that you're lighting candles,
woodstoves, pipes or other non-flammable items. The long matches are
just better for this sort of thing. As a striker, the best thing
(lasts forever) is a piece of a coarse file. Silicon carbide paper
(black "wet and dry") also lasts quite well - 120 grit does it.
If you're stuck with safeties, recycle the box side. You could make
your own, but you'd need red phosphorous. As this is also used for
drug manufacture (not to mention nerve agents), it's very hard to get
hold of.
If you live near me, you can also go out to the fields of "Dig your
own" white phosphorous, courtesy of an exploding phosphorous plant a
few years ago. Recent roadbuilding was fun to watch, because when the
grader took the first topsoil off, the little fragments of phosphorous
would dry out and spontaneously combust with a puff of smoke.
--
Die Gotterspammerung - Junkmail of the Gods
Sun, Nov 2, 2003, 3:35pm (EST+5) [email protected] (Andy=A0Dingley)
says:
<snip> As a striker, the best thing (lasts forever) is a piece of a
coarse file. <snip>
Good idea, a rock will wear out in no time.
JOAT
My aim is to get through life peacefully, with as little interferrnce
from human beings as possible.
Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
Web Page Update 30 Oct 2003.
Some tunes I like.
http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/
[email protected] (T.) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Sun, Nov 2, 2003, 3:35pm (EST+5) [email protected] (Andy Dingley)
> says:
> <snip> As a striker, the best thing (lasts forever) is a piece of a
> coarse file. <snip>
>
> Good idea, a rock will wear out in no time.
>
> JOAT
> My aim is to get through life peacefully, with as little interferrnce
> from human beings as possible.
LOL!
You see, it's posts like that that keep me reading this group. That's
as good an understated sarcasm as I've read or heard all week. JOAT,
I wonder if you're this grumpy all day long! :)
-Phil Crow
P.S. Damn kids...
Sun, Nov 2, 2003, 3:53pm (EST-3) [email protected] (Phil=A0Crow)
claims:
<snip> I wonder if you're this grumpy all day long!
Me? I'm always cheerful. Those rare times I am grumpy, usually
one of the damn kids got on my nerves. Or a politician. Or a lawyer.
Or some idiot on the highway. Or something like that. Check my web
page, got a picture of me with a big smile, right on the first page.
Link on the music page, below.
JOAT
My aim is to get through life peacefully, with as little interferrnce
from human beings as possible.
Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
Web Page Update 30 Oct 2003.
Some tunes I like.
http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/
On Sun, 2 Nov 2003 11:55:21 -0500 (EST), [email protected] (T.)
wrote:
> Good idea, a rock will wear out in no time.
Well if you have a rock handy, use that ! But even hard-grit
sandpaper can see wear on the glue to the backing.
There's a matcholder at my parent's place that sees a fair bit of use,
as they still have a coal fire. It's trench art from the Great War and
has a piece of farrier's rasp as a striker - my Grandfather was in the
Royal Horse Artillery.
--
Die Gotterspammerung - Junkmail of the Gods
What about on the top or side under a sliding cover?
On Sun, 02 Nov 2003 15:15:51 -0500, <[email protected]> wrote:
> where to place the strike plate. I
>suppose that affixing it under the lid would be hazardous (the risk
>being that something could fall and light the rest of the matches in
>the box). Under the box would be inconvenient. The top, front or sides
>would be an eyesore
-- jc
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If e-mailing me, please use jc631 at optonline dot net
<[email protected]> wrote in message >
>
> Oh and feel free to tell me it's just a damn match box,
> and to slap it together, already! :-)
>
> -Kitto
> (sorry, no email)
Most of us here know what you are making, it is not "just a damn match box",
it is a piece of your heart and soul meant as a gift. We take a lot of time
on things like that.
Ed
[email protected]
http://pages.cthome.net/edhome
On Sun, 02 Nov 2003 20:35:34 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Most of us here know what you are making, it is not "just a damn match box",
>it is a piece of your heart and soul meant as a gift.
Or (as in most of the things I make) it's a displacement activity from
what I should be doing, but I'm trying to avoid.
>We take a lot of time on things like that.
Likewise.
--
Die Gotterspammerung - Junkmail of the Gods