RR

Ray

16/09/2011 9:22 AM

Oak floor too slick

House is 6 years old. We are first occupants and have been living
here for 2 years. The house has nice finished in place oak floors.
The floor near the bedroom has become slick, ie. polished smooth. I
was thinking about roughing up the finish with either 400 grit
sandpaper or a scotch brite pad on a random orbital sander. I don't
want to wear the finish away too much. Any suggestions on this idea
or anything that can be applied to the surface? The rest of the
flooring has a slight gritty feel to it, and when walking on in socks
there is a slight grip to it. I am concerned about a falling hazzard.


This topic has 19 replies

FH

Father Haskell

in reply to Ray on 16/09/2011 9:22 AM

20/09/2011 12:55 PM

On Sep 16, 11:14=A0pm, willshak <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I will check Home Depot and Lumber Liquidators for non-slip

Pretty much any wax made for floors will be non-slip.

RR

Ray

in reply to Ray on 16/09/2011 9:22 AM

16/09/2011 6:49 PM

On Fri, 16 Sep 2011 16:20:21 -0400, Gerald Ross <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Nova wrote:
>> On Fri, 16 Sep 2011 09:22:35 -0600, Ray<[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>House is 6 years old. We are first occupants and have been living
>>>here for 2 years. The house has nice finished in place oak floors.
>>>The floor near the bedroom has become slick, ie. polished smooth. I
>>>was thinking about roughing up the finish with either 400 grit
>>>sandpaper or a scotch brite pad on a random orbital sander. I don't
>>>want to wear the finish away too much. Any suggestions on this idea
>>>or anything that can be applied to the surface? The rest of the
>>>flooring has a slight gritty feel to it, and when walking on in socks
>>>there is a slight grip to it. I am concerned about a falling hazzard.
>>
>>
>> Have you tried a non-slip floor wax?
>
>Hospitals use that. It looks shiny, but you couldn't drag a dead cat
>across it.

That sounds like what I am looking for. A search show some products
for vinyl and composition floors. I don't think they are meant for
wood. I will check Home Depot and Lumber Liquidators for non-slip
floor wax. Any leads where I can purchase non-slip floor wax? I also
found 2 DIY formulas. Not sure if alcohol and oil mix?

1/2 cup olive oil
1/2 cup vegetable oil
1/2 cup vodka
1 cup orange shellac
2 tbsp. acacia

or

2 tablespoons of turpentine
1 cup flammable Orange Shellac
2 tablespoons of Acacia
2 cups flammable alcohol (denatured)

The present non slip areas do appear to be nibs and dust.

Thanks for the replies

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to Ray on 16/09/2011 9:22 AM

16/09/2011 10:11 AM

On Fri, 16 Sep 2011 09:22:35 -0600, Ray <[email protected]> wrote:

>House is 6 years old. We are first occupants and have been living
>here for 2 years. The house has nice finished in place oak floors.
>The floor near the bedroom has become slick, ie. polished smooth. I
>was thinking about roughing up the finish with either 400 grit
>sandpaper or a scotch brite pad on a random orbital sander. I don't
>want to wear the finish away too much. Any suggestions on this idea
>or anything that can be applied to the surface? The rest of the
>flooring has a slight gritty feel to it, and when walking on in socks
>there is a slight grip to it. I am concerned about a falling hazzard.

When I do a non-skid treatment to a porch, I apply the paint, spread
sand on top, let it dry, then put another coat of paint. You could try
that with the clear floor finish.

LJ--wishing I could see your face right about now. <evil grinne>


OK, a real answer. Figure out what they used and put another coat of
finish in that area. Finish in that slick area has likely been worn
thru.

--
Self-development is a higher duty than self-sacrifice.
-- Elizabeth Cady Stanton

JA

"Joe AutoDrill"

in reply to Ray on 16/09/2011 9:22 AM

16/09/2011 2:28 PM

"Ray" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> House is 6 years old. We are first occupants and have been living
> here for 2 years. The house has nice finished in place oak floors.
> The floor near the bedroom has become slick, ie. polished smooth. I
> was thinking about roughing up the finish with either 400 grit
> sandpaper or a scotch brite pad on a random orbital sander. I don't
> want to wear the finish away too much. Any suggestions on this idea
> or anything that can be applied to the surface? The rest of the
> flooring has a slight gritty feel to it, and when walking on in socks
> there is a slight grip to it. I am concerned about a falling hazzard.


I really can't provide an answer to you for this issue, but I will say that
you should never, EVER use Pledge furniture polish to make a floor look
good. ...Unless you are practicing for the US Ice Skating Team, etc.

Did that once. Never again.

Regards,
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(800) 871-5022 x113
01.908.542.0244
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RicodJour

in reply to Ray on 16/09/2011 9:22 AM

16/09/2011 9:48 AM

On Sep 16, 11:22=A0am, Ray <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> House is 6 years old. =A0We are first occupants and have been living
> here for 2 years. =A0The house has nice finished in place oak floors.
> The floor near the bedroom has become slick, ie. polished smooth. =A0I
> was thinking about roughing up the finish with either 400 grit
> sandpaper or a scotch brite pad on a random orbital sander. =A0I don't
> want to wear the finish away too much. =A0Any suggestions on this idea
> or anything that can be applied to the surface? =A0The rest of the
> flooring has a slight gritty feel to it, and when walking on in socks
> there is a slight grip to it. =A0I am concerned about a falling hazzard.

If you're looking to prematurely age the look of your house - give it
some patina - sure, scuff up the floors where people walk. Otherwise
you should treat the whole floor in the same way. Floor finishers use
a buffing machine with a screen to scuff up the surface in preparation
for a new topcoat. Whatever you do, test the process in a normally
hidden area - under the bed, in a closet, etc.

The slightly gritty finish in the non-slippery areas is from nibs -
dust/dirt that got into the finish while it was still wet.

R

tn

tiredofspam

in reply to Ray on 16/09/2011 9:22 AM

16/09/2011 10:05 PM

Do not use vegetable oil or olive oil, it will get rancid where it
falls between the cracks.
You'll have a bigger problem.

On 9/16/2011 8:49 PM, Ray wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Sep 2011 16:20:21 -0400, Gerald Ross<[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Nova wrote:
>>> On Fri, 16 Sep 2011 09:22:35 -0600, Ray<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> House is 6 years old. We are first occupants and have been living
>>>> here for 2 years. The house has nice finished in place oak floors.
>>>> The floor near the bedroom has become slick, ie. polished smooth. I
>>>> was thinking about roughing up the finish with either 400 grit
>>>> sandpaper or a scotch brite pad on a random orbital sander. I don't
>>>> want to wear the finish away too much. Any suggestions on this idea
>>>> or anything that can be applied to the surface? The rest of the
>>>> flooring has a slight gritty feel to it, and when walking on in socks
>>>> there is a slight grip to it. I am concerned about a falling hazzard.
>>>
>>>
>>> Have you tried a non-slip floor wax?
>>
>> Hospitals use that. It looks shiny, but you couldn't drag a dead cat
>> across it.
>
> That sounds like what I am looking for. A search show some products
> for vinyl and composition floors. I don't think they are meant for
> wood. I will check Home Depot and Lumber Liquidators for non-slip
> floor wax. Any leads where I can purchase non-slip floor wax? I also
> found 2 DIY formulas. Not sure if alcohol and oil mix?
>
> 1/2 cup olive oil
> 1/2 cup vegetable oil
> 1/2 cup vodka
> 1 cup orange shellac
> 2 tbsp. acacia
>
> or
>
> 2 tablespoons of turpentine
> 1 cup flammable Orange Shellac
> 2 tablespoons of Acacia
> 2 cups flammable alcohol (denatured)
>
> The present non slip areas do appear to be nibs and dust.
>
> Thanks for the replies

GR

Gerald Ross

in reply to Ray on 16/09/2011 9:22 AM

16/09/2011 4:20 PM

Nova wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Sep 2011 09:22:35 -0600, Ray<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>House is 6 years old. We are first occupants and have been living
>>here for 2 years. The house has nice finished in place oak floors.
>>The floor near the bedroom has become slick, ie. polished smooth. I
>>was thinking about roughing up the finish with either 400 grit
>>sandpaper or a scotch brite pad on a random orbital sander. I don't
>>want to wear the finish away too much. Any suggestions on this idea
>>or anything that can be applied to the surface? The rest of the
>>flooring has a slight gritty feel to it, and when walking on in socks
>>there is a slight grip to it. I am concerned about a falling hazzard.
>
>
> Have you tried a non-slip floor wax?

Hospitals use that. It looks shiny, but you couldn't drag a dead cat
across it.

--
Gerald Ross
Cochran, GA

Let X = 42




FH

Father Haskell

in reply to Ray on 16/09/2011 9:22 AM

20/09/2011 1:04 PM

On Sep 16, 8:49=A0pm, Ray <[email protected]> wrote:

> That sounds like what I am looking for. =A0A search show some products
> for vinyl and composition floors. =A0I don't think they are meant for
> wood. =A0I will check Home Depot and Lumber Liquidators for non-slip
> floor wax. =A0Any leads where I can purchase non-slip floor wax? =A0I als=
o
> found 2 DIY formulas. =A0Not sure if alcohol and oil mix? =A0

They don't, but the oil keeps the pad from sticking to
the semi-dried shellac.

> =A0 =A0 1/2 cup olive oil
> =A0 =A0 1/2 cup vegetable oil
> =A0 =A0 1/2 cup vodka
> =A0 =A0 1 cup orange shellac
> =A0 =A0 2 tbsp. acacia

Wipe-on formulation? Vodka is pure ethanol cut with
water, which shellac takes to like your cat. You're better
off with Everclear (expensive, but has much snob appeal
as a shellac thinner) or denatured alcohol. Recommended
proportions above look like 2-lb cut. Replace the non-drying
oils with boiled linseed or tung, unless you feel like spiriting
off an entire floor.

Nn

Nova

in reply to Ray on 16/09/2011 9:22 AM

16/09/2011 11:51 AM

On Fri, 16 Sep 2011 09:22:35 -0600, Ray <[email protected]> wrote:

>House is 6 years old. We are first occupants and have been living
>here for 2 years. The house has nice finished in place oak floors.
>The floor near the bedroom has become slick, ie. polished smooth. I
>was thinking about roughing up the finish with either 400 grit
>sandpaper or a scotch brite pad on a random orbital sander. I don't
>want to wear the finish away too much. Any suggestions on this idea
>or anything that can be applied to the surface? The rest of the
>flooring has a slight gritty feel to it, and when walking on in socks
>there is a slight grip to it. I am concerned about a falling hazzard.


Have you tried a non-slip floor wax?
--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA

Ff

FrozenNorth

in reply to Ray on 16/09/2011 9:22 AM

16/09/2011 11:39 AM

On 9/16/11 11:22 AM, Ray wrote:
> House is 6 years old. We are first occupants and have been living
> here for 2 years. The house has nice finished in place oak floors.
> The floor near the bedroom has become slick, ie. polished smooth. I
> was thinking about roughing up the finish with either 400 grit
> sandpaper or a scotch brite pad on a random orbital sander. I don't
> want to wear the finish away too much. Any suggestions on this idea
> or anything that can be applied to the surface? The rest of the
> flooring has a slight gritty feel to it, and when walking on in socks
> there is a slight grip to it. I am concerned about a falling hazzard.

I'd keep away from it with the sandpaper.

We have oak stairs going up to the bedrooms, they were *very* slippery
when we bought the house. After my wife and I on separate occasions
nearly wiped out on them I bought a product at HD that you mix with
polyurethane and brush on. For the stairs I made it pretty gritty and
taped off some rectangles on the treads then applied till I got the
level of grit I wanted.

Can't remember the name of the product, it was in the paint section, has
worked a charm. Given this sounds like a flat stretch of floor, you
probably don't need much of it, if any, just an option.

--
Froz...


The system will be down for 10 days for preventive maintenance.

GG

Greg Guarino

in reply to Ray on 16/09/2011 9:22 AM

16/09/2011 3:31 PM

On 9/16/2011 11:22 AM, Ray wrote:
> House is 6 years old. We are first occupants and have been living
> here for 2 years. The house has nice finished in place oak floors.
> The floor near the bedroom has become slick, ie. polished smooth. I
> was thinking about roughing up the finish with either 400 grit
> sandpaper or a scotch brite pad on a random orbital sander. I don't
> want to wear the finish away too much. Any suggestions on this idea
> or anything that can be applied to the surface? The rest of the
> flooring has a slight gritty feel to it, and when walking on in socks
> there is a slight grip to it. I am concerned about a falling hazzard.

I have it on good authority that many common hair and beauty products
will take down that sheen quite effectively. Did in one area of my house
anyway, but I'm not sure of the exact combination that was "applied". ;)

cc

chaniarts

in reply to Ray on 16/09/2011 9:22 AM

30/09/2011 1:10 PM

On 9/16/2011 11:28 AM, Joe AutoDrill wrote:
> "Ray"<[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> House is 6 years old. We are first occupants and have been living
>> here for 2 years. The house has nice finished in place oak floors.
>> The floor near the bedroom has become slick, ie. polished smooth. I
>> was thinking about roughing up the finish with either 400 grit
>> sandpaper or a scotch brite pad on a random orbital sander. I don't
>> want to wear the finish away too much. Any suggestions on this idea
>> or anything that can be applied to the surface? The rest of the
>> flooring has a slight gritty feel to it, and when walking on in socks
>> there is a slight grip to it. I am concerned about a falling hazzard.
>
>
> I really can't provide an answer to you for this issue, but I will say that
> you should never, EVER use Pledge furniture polish to make a floor look
> good. ...Unless you are practicing for the US Ice Skating Team, etc.
>
> Did that once. Never again.

or on your motorcycle seat....

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to Ray on 16/09/2011 9:22 AM

16/09/2011 10:13 AM

On Fri, 16 Sep 2011 11:51:11 -0400, Nova <[email protected]> wrote:

>Have you tried a non-slip floor wax?

Is that like Oil-Free Oil of Olay products?

--
Self-development is a higher duty than self-sacrifice.
-- Elizabeth Cady Stanton

Nn

Nova

in reply to Ray on 16/09/2011 9:22 AM

17/09/2011 7:47 AM

On Fri, 16 Sep 2011 18:49:23 -0600, Ray <[email protected]> wrote:

>On Fri, 16 Sep 2011 16:20:21 -0400, Gerald Ross <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>Nova wrote:
>>> On Fri, 16 Sep 2011 09:22:35 -0600, Ray<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>House is 6 years old. We are first occupants and have been living
>>>>here for 2 years. The house has nice finished in place oak floors.
>>>>The floor near the bedroom has become slick, ie. polished smooth. I
>>>>was thinking about roughing up the finish with either 400 grit
>>>>sandpaper or a scotch brite pad on a random orbital sander. I don't
>>>>want to wear the finish away too much. Any suggestions on this idea
>>>>or anything that can be applied to the surface? The rest of the
>>>>flooring has a slight gritty feel to it, and when walking on in socks
>>>>there is a slight grip to it. I am concerned about a falling hazzard.
>>>
>>>
>>> Have you tried a non-slip floor wax?
>>
>>Hospitals use that. It looks shiny, but you couldn't drag a dead cat
>>across it.
>
>That sounds like what I am looking for. A search show some products
>for vinyl and composition floors. I don't think they are meant for
>wood. I will check Home Depot and Lumber Liquidators for non-slip
>floor wax. Any leads where I can purchase non-slip floor wax? I also
>found 2 DIY formulas. Not sure if alcohol and oil mix?
>
> 1/2 cup olive oil
> 1/2 cup vegetable oil
> 1/2 cup vodka
> 1 cup orange shellac
> 2 tbsp. acacia
>
>or
>
> 2 tablespoons of turpentine
> 1 cup flammable Orange Shellac
> 2 tablespoons of Acacia
> 2 cups flammable alcohol (denatured)
>
>The present non slip areas do appear to be nibs and dust.
>
>Thanks for the replies

See:
http://www.lundmarkwax.com/00purchase.html
--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA

RN

Roy

in reply to Ray on 16/09/2011 9:22 AM

16/09/2011 9:00 PM

On Fri, 16 Sep 2011 14:28:49 -0400, "Joe AutoDrill" <[email protected]> wrote:

>"Ray" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> House is 6 years old. We are first occupants and have been living
>> here for 2 years. The house has nice finished in place oak floors.
>> The floor near the bedroom has become slick, ie. polished smooth. I
>> was thinking about roughing up the finish with either 400 grit
>> sandpaper or a scotch brite pad on a random orbital sander. I don't
>> want to wear the finish away too much. Any suggestions on this idea
>> or anything that can be applied to the surface? The rest of the
>> flooring has a slight gritty feel to it, and when walking on in socks
>> there is a slight grip to it. I am concerned about a falling hazzard.
>
>
>I really can't provide an answer to you for this issue, but I will say that
>you should never, EVER use Pledge furniture polish to make a floor look
>good. ...Unless you are practicing for the US Ice Skating Team, etc.
>
>Did that once. Never again.

Joe, you weren't at Dover AFB the summer of 1970 were you? The particular
incident I'm thinking of involved Pledge, buffing it with Kotex and the
subsequent inspection of the barracks by a real general present for an air show.

41 years later I can still hear the yell and the thud.

Roy
>
>Regards,
>Joe Agro, Jr.
>(800) 871-5022 x113
>01.908.542.0244
>Flagship Site: http://www.Drill-HQ.com
>Automatic / Pneumatic Drills: http://www.AutoDrill.com
>Multiple Spindle Drills: http://www.Multi-Drill.com
>Production Tapping: http://Production-Tapping-Equipment.com/
>VIDEOS: http://www.youtube.com/user/AutoDrill
>FACEBOOK: http://www.facebook.com/AutoDrill
>TWITTER: http://twitter.com/AutoDrill
>
>
>V8013-R
>
>

JA

"Joe AutoDrill"

in reply to Ray on 16/09/2011 9:22 AM

19/09/2011 8:09 AM

> Joe, you weren't at Dover AFB the summer of 1970 were you? The particular
> incident I'm thinking of involved Pledge, buffing it with Kotex and the
> subsequent inspection of the barracks by a real general present for an air
> show.
>
> 41 years later I can still hear the yell and the thud.

Roy,

In the summer of 1970, I was in a hospital... Being extracted from my
mother. I was taken via C-Section and that is why I claim I have no
birthday. I have a "removal day."
--


Regards,
Joe Agro, Jr.
(800) 871-5022 x113
01.908.542.0244
Flagship Site: http://www.Drill-HQ.com
Automatic / Pneumatic Drills: http://www.AutoDrill.com
Multiple Spindle Drills: http://www.Multi-Drill.com
Production Tapping: http://Production-Tapping-Equipment.com/
VIDEOS: http://www.youtube.com/user/AutoDrill
FACEBOOK: http://www.facebook.com/AutoDrill
TWITTER: http://twitter.com/AutoDrill


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willshak

in reply to Ray on 16/09/2011 9:22 AM

16/09/2011 11:14 PM

Ray wrote the following:
> On Fri, 16 Sep 2011 16:20:21 -0400, Gerald Ross <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Nova wrote:
>>> On Fri, 16 Sep 2011 09:22:35 -0600, Ray<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> House is 6 years old. We are first occupants and have been living
>>>> here for 2 years. The house has nice finished in place oak floors.
>>>> The floor near the bedroom has become slick, ie. polished smooth. I
>>>> was thinking about roughing up the finish with either 400 grit
>>>> sandpaper or a scotch brite pad on a random orbital sander. I don't
>>>> want to wear the finish away too much. Any suggestions on this idea
>>>> or anything that can be applied to the surface? The rest of the
>>>> flooring has a slight gritty feel to it, and when walking on in socks
>>>> there is a slight grip to it. I am concerned about a falling hazzard.
>>>
>>> Have you tried a non-slip floor wax?
>> Hospitals use that. It looks shiny, but you couldn't drag a dead cat
>> across it.
>
> That sounds like what I am looking for. A search show some products
> for vinyl and composition floors. I don't think they are meant for
> wood.

You wouldn't be putting it on wood if it has any finish left.


I will check Home Depot and Lumber Liquidators for non-slip
> floor wax. Any leads where I can purchase non-slip floor wax? I also
> found 2 DIY formulas. Not sure if alcohol and oil mix?
>
> 1/2 cup olive oil
> 1/2 cup vegetable oil
> 1/2 cup vodka
> 1 cup orange shellac
> 2 tbsp. acacia
>
> or
>
> 2 tablespoons of turpentine
> 1 cup flammable Orange Shellac
> 2 tablespoons of Acacia
> 2 cups flammable alcohol (denatured)
>
> The present non slip areas do appear to be nibs and dust.
>
> Thanks for the replies


--

Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
In the original Orange County. Est. 1683
To email, remove the double zeroes after @

KM

"Kerry Montgomery"

in reply to Ray on 16/09/2011 9:22 AM

30/09/2011 2:27 PM


"chaniarts" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 9/16/2011 11:28 AM, Joe AutoDrill wrote:
>> "Ray"<[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> House is 6 years old. We are first occupants and have been living
>>> here for 2 years. The house has nice finished in place oak floors.
>>> The floor near the bedroom has become slick, ie. polished smooth. I
>>> was thinking about roughing up the finish with either 400 grit
>>> sandpaper or a scotch brite pad on a random orbital sander. I don't
>>> want to wear the finish away too much. Any suggestions on this idea
>>> or anything that can be applied to the surface? The rest of the
>>> flooring has a slight gritty feel to it, and when walking on in socks
>>> there is a slight grip to it. I am concerned about a falling hazzard.
>>
>>
>> I really can't provide an answer to you for this issue, but I will say
>> that
>> you should never, EVER use Pledge furniture polish to make a floor look
>> good. ...Unless you are practicing for the US Ice Skating Team, etc.
>>
>> Did that once. Never again.
>
> or on your motorcycle seat....

Brought an old cedar chest home, parked it on the hardwood floor, then
sprayed the chest with furniture polish and wiped it down. The overspray on
the hardwood nearly got me.
Kerry

JA

"Joe AutoDrill"

in reply to Ray on 16/09/2011 9:22 AM

30/09/2011 4:22 PM

>> I really can't provide an answer to you for this issue, but I will say
>> that
>> you should never, EVER use Pledge furniture polish to make a floor look
>> good. ...Unless you are practicing for the US Ice Skating Team, etc.
>>
>> Did that once. Never again.
>
> or on your motorcycle seat....

I'm the guy who said to not use it on the floor... I also have two bikes.
I pledge everything except the tires at times. It's the absolute best
windshield cleaner there is IMHO as long as you don't have the anti-fog
coating my Nolan helmet had which came off with Pledge!

I do the seats, the foot pegs, etc. Now... I ride a street legal dirt bike
(Super Sherpa 250) and a large cruiser (Valkyrie) so it may not apply to the
sport bike folks. :)

Now... To do that to the tires would be stoooopid.

Regards,
Joe Agro, Jr.
(800) 871-5022 x113
01.908.542.0244
Flagship Site: http://www.Drill-HQ.com
Automatic / Pneumatic Drills: http://www.AutoDrill.com
Multiple Spindle Drills: http://www.Multi-Drill.com
Production Tapping: http://Production-Tapping-Equipment.com/
VIDEOS: http://www.youtube.com/user/AutoDrill
FACEBOOK: http://www.facebook.com/AutoDrill
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