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"Dave In Oz"

22/09/2006 5:07 AM

Beginner question - Drawer fronts

I am building a chest of drawers. I have already completed the frame
and the drawer "boxes" (don't know the correct term). I am trying to
work out the best way to accurately attach the fronts of the drawers so
that they line up with the frame and with each other. I don't want to
put any holes through the front of the drawers.

So - the drawers are sitting on their sliders and I put them to their
closed position and can manually lay the fronts onto the boxes - but
can't mark any lines on the inside for when I glue them up as they are
closed!

This is probably a pretty dumb question, but it is my first time making
drawers and I want them to look professional.


This topic has 15 replies

RN

"RayV"

in reply to "Dave In Oz" on 22/09/2006 5:07 AM

22/09/2006 5:22 AM


Dave In Oz wrote:
> I am building a chest of drawers. I have already completed the frame
> and the drawer "boxes" (don't know the correct term). I am trying to
> work out the best way to accurately attach the fronts of the drawers so
> that they line up with the frame and with each other. I don't want to
> put any holes through the front of the drawers.
>
> So - the drawers are sitting on their sliders and I put them to their
> closed position and can manually lay the fronts onto the boxes - but
> can't mark any lines on the inside for when I glue them up as they are
> closed!
>
> This is probably a pretty dumb question, but it is my first time making
> drawers and I want them to look professional.

Use double sided tape to hold them in place then open the drawers and
clamp before attaching.

or

Drill oversize holes in the drawers and use panhead screws to attach.
This will give you *some* wiggle room.

RN

"RayV"

in reply to "Dave In Oz" on 22/09/2006 5:07 AM

22/09/2006 5:22 AM


Dave In Oz wrote:
> I am building a chest of drawers. I have already completed the frame
> and the drawer "boxes" (don't know the correct term). I am trying to
> work out the best way to accurately attach the fronts of the drawers so
> that they line up with the frame and with each other. I don't want to
> put any holes through the front of the drawers.
>
> So - the drawers are sitting on their sliders and I put them to their
> closed position and can manually lay the fronts onto the boxes - but
> can't mark any lines on the inside for when I glue them up as they are
> closed!
>
> This is probably a pretty dumb question, but it is my first time making
> drawers and I want them to look professional.

Use double sided tape to hold them in place then open the drawers and
clamp before attaching.

or

Drill oversize holes in the drawers and use panhead screws to attach.
This will give you *some* wiggle room.

DI

"Dave In Oz"

in reply to "Dave In Oz" on 22/09/2006 5:07 AM

22/09/2006 5:27 AM

Thanks for the reply.

I can do all that, and then the drawer front will line up perfectly
with the drawer box. But, if the slides for the drawer are not
perfectly aligned, then the drawer boxes will not sit perfectly
parallel. Even a 1mm difference will be noticable when the drawers are
closed, as they are about 80cm wide.

So, I am wanting to align the door fronts with each other and with the
frame, which may mean that they are not perfectly aligned with the
boxes inside, but that is no problem.

I hope that this is making sense - I'm finding it hard to explain.

DI

"Dave In Oz"

in reply to "Dave In Oz" on 22/09/2006 5:07 AM

22/09/2006 5:30 AM

Thanks Ray. I think I will go with the double-sided tape. I feel kind
of dumb for not having thought of it myself. Cheers.

Di

"Dave"

in reply to "Dave In Oz" on 22/09/2006 5:07 AM

22/09/2006 5:48 AM


Dave In Oz wrote:
> Thanks for the reply.
>
> I can do all that, and then the drawer front will line up perfectly
> with the drawer box. But, if the slides for the drawer are not
> perfectly aligned, then the drawer boxes will not sit perfectly
> parallel. Even a 1mm difference will be noticable when the drawers are
> closed, as they are about 80cm wide.
>
> So, I am wanting to align the door fronts with each other and with the
> frame, which may mean that they are not perfectly aligned with the
> boxes inside, but that is no problem.
>
> I hope that this is making sense - I'm finding it hard to explain.

I am using a slight variation to acheive what you are describing.

Drill oversize holes in the drawer box on opposite corners. Using
screws and finish washers from inside the drawer box you can move the
face slightly to get the correct spacing. Once it is aligned, tighten
down these two screws and then screw the remaining two corners without
using oversize holes.

Works well and the finish washers cover up the oversize holes so there
is no problem with the appearance to me.

Dave

mm

"mew"

in reply to "Dave In Oz" on 22/09/2006 5:07 AM

22/09/2006 6:12 AM

I used a little different method. I started with the bottom drawer,
put the box in alligned the front like I wanted by reaching in over the
rails and used clamps to hold the front to the box, I then braded front
to the box from the inside. Went to the next one up and aligned it
with the one below using a spacer for the horizontal space, ..... This
method worked for me and was fast.
Mike

Dave In Oz wrote:
> I am building a chest of drawers. I have already completed the frame
> and the drawer "boxes" (don't know the correct term). I am trying to
> work out the best way to accurately attach the fronts of the drawers so
> that they line up with the frame and with each other. I don't want to
> put any holes through the front of the drawers.
>
> So - the drawers are sitting on their sliders and I put them to their
> closed position and can manually lay the fronts onto the boxes - but
> can't mark any lines on the inside for when I glue them up as they are
> closed!
>
> This is probably a pretty dumb question, but it is my first time making
> drawers and I want them to look professional.

DI

"Dave In Oz"

in reply to "Dave In Oz" on 22/09/2006 5:07 AM

22/09/2006 7:52 AM

> I've used many different methods, but a variation on the above is to use two
> sheetrock screws, with their extra sharp points just sticking through the
> front of the drawer box about 3/16".

Thanks - that sounds great.

I've never heard of sheetrock screws. I'm in Australia and some things
have different names here. Do you know of another name for sheetrock or
sheetrock screws?

jj

jo4hn

in reply to "Dave In Oz" on 22/09/2006 5:07 AM

22/09/2006 8:27 AM

Dave In Oz wrote:
>>I've used many different methods, but a variation on the above is to use two
>>sheetrock screws, with their extra sharp points just sticking through the
>>front of the drawer box about 3/16".
>
>
> Thanks - that sounds great.
>
> I've never heard of sheetrock screws. I'm in Australia and some things
> have different names here. Do you know of another name for sheetrock or
> sheetrock screws?
>
I know them as drywall screws. Other names for sheetrock/drywall are
wallboard and gypboard (gyp for gypsum). The screws are non-tapered
(except at the tip), black in color, and with a phillips head.

screw you,
jo4hn ;-)

Sk

"Swingman"

in reply to "Dave In Oz" on 22/09/2006 5:07 AM

22/09/2006 10:19 AM


"Dave In Oz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> > I've used many different methods, but a variation on the above is to use
two
> > sheetrock screws, with their extra sharp points just sticking through
the
> > front of the drawer box about 3/16".
>
> Thanks - that sounds great.
>
> I've never heard of sheetrock screws. I'm in Australia and some things
> have different names here. Do you know of another name for sheetrock or
> sheetrock screws?

Probably "drywall" or "plasterboard" in Oz?


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nB

in reply to "Dave In Oz" on 22/09/2006 5:07 AM

22/09/2006 8:42 PM

On 22 Sep 2006 05:07:18 -0700, "Dave In Oz" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>So - the drawers are sitting on their sliders and I put them to their
>closed position and can manually lay the fronts onto the boxes - but
>can't mark any lines on the inside for when I glue them up as they are
>closed!

Hi, Dave. I faced the same problem recently. I put a couple of dabs
of construction adhesive (e.g. "Liquid Nails") on the drawer boxes,
and then applied the fronts. I then used shims to adjust the fronts
so that they were all aligned properly. After the adhesive had cured,
I pulled open the drawers and secured the fronts with screws from
inside the box. Consider it a variant of the two-sided tape method.

Bill

md

mac davis

in reply to "Dave In Oz" on 22/09/2006 5:07 AM

22/09/2006 7:58 AM

On 22 Sep 2006 05:07:18 -0700, "Dave In Oz" <[email protected]> wrote:

>I am building a chest of drawers. I have already completed the frame
>and the drawer "boxes" (don't know the correct term). I am trying to
>work out the best way to accurately attach the fronts of the drawers so
>that they line up with the frame and with each other. I don't want to
>put any holes through the front of the drawers.
>
>So - the drawers are sitting on their sliders and I put them to their
>closed position and can manually lay the fronts onto the boxes - but
>can't mark any lines on the inside for when I glue them up as they are
>closed!
>
>This is probably a pretty dumb question, but it is my first time making
>drawers and I want them to look professional.

Can't really answer your question because you don't want holes in the front of
your drawers, but you might try the old double-sided tape method...
us 2 SMALL pieces of mounting tape to hold the drawer front to the drawer....
close the drawer and carefully align the face where you want it and reseat the
tape... open drawer and use screws or whatever to attach drawer front..


I usually have 1 or 2 holes in the drawer and face, depending on the type of
pulls... I try to make the hole(s) in the drawer large enough to allow a little
adjustment space since the pull is what's holding the drawer front in place..
Mac

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Sk

"Swingman"

in reply to "Dave In Oz" on 22/09/2006 5:07 AM

22/09/2006 9:04 AM

"mew" wrote in message
> I used a little different method. I started with the bottom drawer,
> put the box in alligned the front like I wanted by reaching in over the
> rails and used clamps to hold the front to the box, I then braded front
> to the box from the inside. Went to the next one up and aligned it
> with the one below using a spacer for the horizontal space, ..... This
> method worked for me and was fast.

I've used many different methods, but a variation on the above is to use two
sheetrock screws, with their extra sharp points just sticking through the
front of the drawer box about 3/16".

With the spacer as a guide, pressing the drawer front onto the sharp points
of the sheetrock screws is enough to help hold it into position while you
open the drawer and drive the temporary screws home, to be replaced after
you're satisfied with alignment of ALL the drawer fronts.

Advantage is that when Murphy strikes, you don't have to pull a bradded
drawer front off its box.

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TW

"Tim W"

in reply to "Dave In Oz" on 22/09/2006 5:07 AM

22/09/2006 6:30 PM


"Dave In Oz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Thanks Ray. I think I will go with the double-sided tape. I feel kind
> of dumb for not having thought of it myself. Cheers.
>
Or a hot melt glue gun can work really well here.
Put a little weight in the drawer box, squeeze out some glue, press the
front carefully into place, then check alignment and screw securely from the
inside. Voila.

Tim W

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"efgh"

in reply to "Dave In Oz" on 22/09/2006 5:07 AM

22/09/2006 12:20 PM


"Dave In Oz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I am building a chest of drawers. I have already completed the frame
> and the drawer "boxes" (don't know the correct term). I am trying to
> work out the best way to accurately attach the fronts of the drawers so
> that they line up with the frame and with each other. I don't want to
> put any holes through the front of the drawers.
>
> So - the drawers are sitting on their sliders and I put them to their
> closed position and can manually lay the fronts onto the boxes - but
> can't mark any lines on the inside for when I glue them up as they are
> closed!
>
> This is probably a pretty dumb question, but it is my first time making
> drawers and I want them to look professional.
>

Screw the drawer front on from the inside of the drawer and into the back of
the drawer front.

You're going to want to the drawer front to be centered on the drawer so cut
yourself a scrap piece that's of the same width of the drawer front
overhang. i.e., your drawer is 12" wide, drawer front is 13" wide so you're
going to want a piece that's 1/2" wide. Clamp this piece to the edge of
your drawer front and then screw the drawer front on.

Mn

Mike

in reply to "Dave In Oz" on 22/09/2006 5:07 AM

22/09/2006 4:38 PM

On 22 Sep 2006 07:52:33 -0700, "Dave In Oz" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>> I've used many different methods, but a variation on the above is to use two
>> sheetrock screws, with their extra sharp points just sticking through the
>> front of the drawer box about 3/16".
>
>Thanks - that sounds great.
>
>I've never heard of sheetrock screws. I'm in Australia and some things
>have different names here. Do you know of another name for sheetrock or
>sheetrock screws?

I think it's the same thing as plasterboard / drywall screws.




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