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"stryped"

20/03/2006 6:12 AM

Edge joint with a planer?

Is it possible to edge joint with a planer? Hwo would I go about doing
it?


This topic has 12 replies

BB

Bossman

in reply to "stryped" on 20/03/2006 6:12 AM

25/04/2006 8:57 PM

On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 14:09:17 GMT, B A R R Y <[email protected]>
wrote:


>Many of us do answer the same questions over and over. I even keep a
>text file on my desktop where I can cut and paste stuff into a post,
>called "'wreck frequent posts".

Well, this is a step in the right direction...

>If we can Google the same person asking the same questions over and
>over, within a month, and doing the same on other groups, should we not
>call them out?

I'm not taking issue with anyones right to stand and call them out. If
thats what you feel is right, please, this great country allows us to
do just that. I'll even stand by your right to do so. I'm just having
a hard time understanding WHY.

My take on this group is it is the electronic equivilant of a small
society, complete with leaders, followers, rule breakers etc....
With so many people wanting to actually learn what we do, I feel that
this might be their first impression of the group, and that we as a
whole should put our best face forward. Kill file the guy whos doing
what you said. To let someone like that get the better of the good
people here is totally irrational to me. If they persist, and are
ignored, they will go away. If they break the rules, report em ( even
though I;d rather handle them a different way myself) . If things
don't change, lets create a moderated newsgroup.

>What if the second person who asked for directions to that real estate
>office had arrived in the same car as the first? Or, the same person
>came back and asked again, 15 minutes later? And again, 30 minutes
>after that? <G>

<s> Nice response. I'd tell them the second time, maybe the condensed
wave of the arm in the stores general direction. Maybe they are
lonely, disturbed.... whatever. The third time I don't lift my head
out of the coffee cup <s>

I checked some of your responses too. Some real good stuff. Shame
to see you waste you knowledge on knucklheads, even though I probably
fit into the latter <s>

Bossman

Bm

"Bugs"

in reply to "stryped" on 20/03/2006 6:12 AM

20/03/2006 6:30 AM

Not really recommended. A board on its edge is unstable and can cause
all sorts of accidents when you try to shore it up or worse, hold it by
hand. Just basic safety.
Bugs

b

in reply to "stryped" on 20/03/2006 6:12 AM

20/03/2006 8:54 AM


stryped wrote:
> Is it possible to edge joint with a planer? Hwo would I go about doing
> it?

sure, theoretically almost anything is possible. and you've come to the
right place to find people into trying unusual things with woodworking
machinery. we've been doing it for years, and talking about it here.
all of that talking is archived, unless someone sets the no archive bit
on their messages. the archive can be searched, which is a great help.
here's how: go to
http://groups.google.com/advanced_search?q=&hl=en&
type in the subject you're interested in, the group you want to search
in (rec.woodworking) and hit the go button.

DB

Dave Balderstone

in reply to "stryped" on 20/03/2006 6:12 AM

20/03/2006 10:57 AM

In article <[email protected]>,
stryped <[email protected]> wrote:

> Is it possible to edge joint with a planer? Hwo would I go about doing
> it?
>

We just went through this discussion a few weeks ago. Considering
you're posting through google groups, do a search.

Short answer is yes you can do it with the right jigs/sleds.

ER

Enoch Root

in reply to "stryped" on 20/03/2006 6:12 AM

25/04/2006 10:42 AM

Bossman wrote:
> Funny thing happened at the breakfast place I was at. A guy came in
> looking for the real estate office that was literally right next door.
> So we showed him where it was, even so much as pointing the door
> handle out to him. This guy couldn't be happier, and thanked us
> profusely, although a little sheepishly.
>
> Do ya know what happened next? A differrent guy came in not 2 minutes
> later and asked us the same question. So I told him we just answered
> that question, and to look up the answer in the yellow pages (should
> have told him to google it I guess) . We didn't realize until we saw
> his cane that he was blind.....
>
> Why, oh why would you waste the energy to tell somebody that it was
> just discussed, and not exert a little more energy and answer the
> question, or use a little less and skip over the thread?
>
> I used to follow this group a long time ago, and was a little put off
> by some of the elitist answer that newbies got, sometimes wrong
> answers as well, but had hoped it had changed. Seems not. Shame
>
> There are some extremely educated individuals here, and the knowledge
> that they have shared is priceless. Unfortunately, knowledge is not
> the same as manners.......
>
> Final thought. Sports fans aren't born with a favorite team. They have
> to support their team for the first time at a given point. Some have
> fanatic fathers friends or what ever, but they still must determine at
> one point, and one point only, that they are fans. So they follow the
> team their whole life, only to decied one day that they like a
> different team. So they switch allegiances. If they pick the most
> popular team do you call them band wagon jumpers? Isn't it the same
> as the first day the picked their original team?
>
> Teach more, lecture less
>
>
> Not as good as some, but better than most

Aaah, yer mom.

;-)

It's not normal for this group, IMHO. The poster being responded to is
actually restating the same question they asked earlier, and for which
they already received lots of good advice and pointers.

It's strange and unsettling to be asked the same questions repeatedly by
the same person, and more so when the questions have been answered and
the questioner comes back with more (trivial, related) questions that
will be answered by taking that advice to the workshop and *trying* *it*
*out*.

As though he had no intention of doing it, but just wants to continue
asking questions.

Weird. Not really the same as the scenario you retell.

Anyway, that's the way I saw the whole stryped thing unfold.

er
--
email not valid

BA

B A R R Y

in reply to "stryped" on 20/03/2006 6:12 AM

27/04/2006 12:13 PM

Bossman wrote:
>
> I'll even stand by your right to do so. I'm just having
> a hard time understanding WHY.

Ya' know, I don't know... <G> I'm pretty good at ignoring a lot of if,
but sometimes the coffee wasn't right one morning...

> I checked some of your responses too. Some real good stuff. Shame
> to see you waste you knowledge on knucklheads, even though I probably
> fit into the latter <s>

It's not wasted at all. Not that long ago, _I_ was a total knuckle
head, now I'm moving towards semi-knucklehead. Many of the folks here
have helped me get faster, safer, better, as well as appreciate
different styles and designs.

Sometimes, a response to a simple knucklehead question will make me
rethink the way I've done something for years. Sometimes, just
_different_ can open up a whole new road.

CT

Chuck Taylor

in reply to "stryped" on 20/03/2006 6:12 AM

20/03/2006 6:08 PM

On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 23:38:05 GMT, [email protected] (Doug Miller)
wrote:

>In article <200320061057237269%dave***@balderstone.ca>, dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca wrote:
>>In article <[email protected]>,
>>stryped <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Is it possible to edge joint with a planer? Hwo would I go about doing
>>> it?
>>>
>>We just went through this discussion a few weeks ago.
>
>Yes, we did -- in response to a question from the same guy, IIRC.
>
>> Considering
>>you're posting through google groups, do a search.
>
>Oooooh, too bad, stryped -- none of your posts are archived. :-(


Wouldn't matter. He's already made it clear he can't be bothered to
look up old threads, even when he knows the answers to his questions
are already there.


--
Chuck Taylor
http://home.hiwaay.net/~taylorc/contact/

BA

B A R R Y

in reply to "stryped" on 20/03/2006 6:12 AM

25/04/2006 2:09 PM

Bossman wrote:
>
> Why, oh why would you waste the energy to tell somebody that it was
> just discussed, and not exert a little more energy and answer the
> question, or use a little less and skip over the thread?

Many of us do answer the same questions over and over. I even keep a
text file on my desktop where I can cut and paste stuff into a post,
called "'wreck frequent posts".

If we can Google the same person asking the same questions over and
over, within a month, and doing the same on other groups, should we not
call them out?


What if the second person who asked for directions to that real estate
office had arrived in the same car as the first? Or, the same person
came back and asked again, 15 minutes later? And again, 30 minutes
after that? <G>

Eventually, you realize you're being played...

BB

Bossman

in reply to "stryped" on 20/03/2006 6:12 AM

25/04/2006 9:21 AM

Funny thing happened at the breakfast place I was at. A guy came in
looking for the real estate office that was literally right next door.
So we showed him where it was, even so much as pointing the door
handle out to him. This guy couldn't be happier, and thanked us
profusely, although a little sheepishly.

Do ya know what happened next? A differrent guy came in not 2 minutes
later and asked us the same question. So I told him we just answered
that question, and to look up the answer in the yellow pages (should
have told him to google it I guess) . We didn't realize until we saw
his cane that he was blind.....

Why, oh why would you waste the energy to tell somebody that it was
just discussed, and not exert a little more energy and answer the
question, or use a little less and skip over the thread?

I used to follow this group a long time ago, and was a little put off
by some of the elitist answer that newbies got, sometimes wrong
answers as well, but had hoped it had changed. Seems not. Shame

There are some extremely educated individuals here, and the knowledge
that they have shared is priceless. Unfortunately, knowledge is not
the same as manners.......

Final thought. Sports fans aren't born with a favorite team. They have
to support their team for the first time at a given point. Some have
fanatic fathers friends or what ever, but they still must determine at
one point, and one point only, that they are fans. So they follow the
team their whole life, only to decied one day that they like a
different team. So they switch allegiances. If they pick the most
popular team do you call them band wagon jumpers? Isn't it the same
as the first day the picked their original team?

Teach more, lecture less


Not as good as some, but better than most

Bossman





On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 10:57:23 -0600, Dave Balderstone
<dave***@balderstone.ca> wrote:

>In article <[email protected]>,
>stryped <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Is it possible to edge joint with a planer? Hwo would I go about doing
>> it?
>>
>
>We just went through this discussion a few weeks ago. Considering
>you're posting through google groups, do a search.
>
>Short answer is yes you can do it with the right jigs/sleds.

TT

"Toller"

in reply to "stryped" on 20/03/2006 6:12 AM

20/03/2006 2:22 PM


"stryped" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Is it possible to edge joint with a planer? Hwo would I go about doing
> it?
>
Interesting question. On its side a board should be rigid enough so I
wouldn't deform under the rollers. You would have to mount it on a carrier
that was perfectly flat and rigid enough not to deform; otherwise it would
just copy the irregularities on the down side.
Even then I don't think it would be straight. If you put a board through a
planner several time without changing the setting, it will take
progressively light cuts, but will continue to cut. That implies there is a
certain amout of play in it, and that should be enough to ruin this plan.
Give it a try and let us know.

Rr

"RonB"

in reply to "stryped" on 20/03/2006 6:12 AM

20/03/2006 8:47 AM

This is one of those "it depends" answers.

Light cuts on narrow stock (2" or less) will work. Also better if you run
several through together. I also wouldn't recommend anything longer than 3'
or certainly shorter than your planer handbook recommends. I have run two
or more narrow pieces through on a few occasions and it works fine.

Again, light cuts. And like your table saw - don't stand behind the
feed-path. Contrary to popular belief a planer can throw things at you.

Ron

sD

[email protected] (Doug Miller)

in reply to "stryped" on 20/03/2006 6:12 AM

20/03/2006 11:38 PM

In article <200320061057237269%dave***@balderstone.ca>, dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca wrote:
>In article <[email protected]>,
>stryped <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Is it possible to edge joint with a planer? Hwo would I go about doing
>> it?
>>
>We just went through this discussion a few weeks ago.

Yes, we did -- in response to a question from the same guy, IIRC.

> Considering
>you're posting through google groups, do a search.

Oooooh, too bad, stryped -- none of your posts are archived. :-(

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.


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