JB

Jeff B

06/04/2008 6:01 PM

Placing Molding Seams?

My new kitchen has 2 sets of molding for the wall cabinets...a 7"
vertical board to cover most of the space between the top of the cab
and the ceiling, and crown molding on top of that. One wall is about
12' long and the molding comes in 8' lengths. Since its stained
cherry with different grain patterns and variation in color, a visible
seam is inevitable.

I've already installed the vertical boards and decided to put the
miter joint in the center of the wall..so I have 2 6' pieces. The
seam is NOT lined up with a cab door or frame line. The question is
where to put the crowm molding. If I put it in the same way, I'll
have an obviously long vertical line. Should I put the 8' crown in
the middle of the wall and then 2 2' sections on either end? I'll
have 2 joints but that will break up the vertical lines.

What do pros usually do with long walls??

Thanks!

--Jeff


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Phisherman

in reply to Jeff B on 06/04/2008 6:01 PM

07/04/2008 3:05 PM

On Mon, 7 Apr 2008 08:41:55 -0500, "Leon"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
>"Jeff B" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>I'm not sure what you mean. The vertical boards are now 6/6. After
>hitting "send", I realized that another option for the crown molding
>would be 4/4/4 rather than 2/8/2. Is that what you meant??
>
>
>
>Fewer seams are better. Cut the joint/seam at a 45 degree angle so that if
>the joint open up a bit it will not be an open hole. Also cut the 45 so
>that you do not look down into the joint at that 45 degree position.
>Basically have the joint point away from the normal viewing angle.
>


Usually fewer seams is better. I had one wall 15 feet long and that
is just too long to accurately cut to length (one inside coped, the
other an outside corner). I installed 10 feet, then the other 5 foot
piece to the outside corner with a scarf joining the two. The 5-foot
piece can be easier to fuss with to get a perfect miter fit.

En

"EXT"

in reply to Jeff B on 06/04/2008 6:01 PM

07/04/2008 11:07 AM

It might be simpler to pre-assemble the pieces. Are you sure that they only
come in 8 foot lengths, most moulding suppliers have long lengths available
simply because the pros don't want to have joints.

If you join them in the shop or at least before you install them, you can
cut them at a 45 degree angle, use biscuits, and clamp them straight with no
visible misalignment. I have also glued a piece of 1/4 inch plywood to the
back to reinforce the joint. It won't be hard to install a 12 foot piece, I
have installed some 18 foot lengths by myself without problems. Done this
way you will have the least visible joint possible.

"Jeff B" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> My new kitchen has 2 sets of molding for the wall cabinets...a 7"
> vertical board to cover most of the space between the top of the cab
> and the ceiling, and crown molding on top of that. One wall is about
> 12' long and the molding comes in 8' lengths. Since its stained
> cherry with different grain patterns and variation in color, a visible
> seam is inevitable.
>
> I've already installed the vertical boards and decided to put the
> miter joint in the center of the wall..so I have 2 6' pieces. The
> seam is NOT lined up with a cab door or frame line. The question is
> where to put the crowm molding. If I put it in the same way, I'll
> have an obviously long vertical line. Should I put the 8' crown in
> the middle of the wall and then 2 2' sections on either end? I'll
> have 2 joints but that will break up the vertical lines.
>
> What do pros usually do with long walls??
>
> Thanks!
>
> --Jeff

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to Jeff B on 06/04/2008 6:01 PM

07/04/2008 8:41 AM


"Jeff B" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
I'm not sure what you mean. The vertical boards are now 6/6. After
hitting "send", I realized that another option for the crown molding
would be 4/4/4 rather than 2/8/2. Is that what you meant??



Fewer seams are better. Cut the joint/seam at a 45 degree angle so that if
the joint open up a bit it will not be an open hole. Also cut the 45 so
that you do not look down into the joint at that 45 degree position.
Basically have the joint point away from the normal viewing angle.

Rr

RicodJour

in reply to Jeff B on 06/04/2008 6:01 PM

06/04/2008 9:42 PM

On Apr 6, 9:01 pm, Jeff B <[email protected]> wrote:
> My new kitchen has 2 sets of molding for the wall cabinets...a 7"
> vertical board to cover most of the space between the top of the cab
> and the ceiling, and crown molding on top of that. One wall is about
> 12' long and the molding comes in 8' lengths. Since its stained
> cherry with different grain patterns and variation in color, a visible
> seam is inevitable.
>
> I've already installed the vertical boards and decided to put the
> miter joint in the center of the wall..so I have 2 6' pieces. The
> seam is NOT lined up with a cab door or frame line. The question is
> where to put the crowm molding. If I put it in the same way, I'll
> have an obviously long vertical line. Should I put the 8' crown in
> the middle of the wall and then 2 2' sections on either end? I'll
> have 2 joints but that will break up the vertical lines.
>
> What do pros usually do with long walls??

I would probably have used an 8' piece for each layer starting from
opposite ends so that the seams would be offset by 4'. You can't do
that now, but using a full piece would offset the seam by 2' which
should be fine.

R

JB

Jeff B

in reply to Jeff B on 06/04/2008 6:01 PM

07/04/2008 4:43 AM

I'm not sure what you mean. The vertical boards are now 6/6. After
hitting "send", I realized that another option for the crown molding
would be 4/4/4 rather than 2/8/2. Is that what you meant??

--Jeff



On Apr 7, 12:42=A0am, RicodJour <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I would probably have used an 8' piece for each layer starting from
> opposite ends so that the seams would be offset by 4'. =A0You can't do
> that now, but using a full piece would offset the seam by 2' which
> should be fine.
>
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RicodJour

in reply to Jeff B on 06/04/2008 6:01 PM

07/04/2008 7:29 AM

On Apr 7, 7:43 am, Jeff B <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Apr 7, 12:42 am, RicodJour <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I would probably have used an 8' piece for each layer starting from
> > opposite ends so that the seams would be offset by 4'. You can't do
> > that now, but using a full piece would offset the seam by 2' which
> > should be fine.
>
> I'm not sure what you mean. The vertical boards are now 6/6. After
> hitting "send", I realized that another option for the crown molding
> would be 4/4/4 rather than 2/8/2. Is that what you meant??

No. Why would you want two seams when one will do? Use an 8' piece
and a 4' piece - that will offset the seam between the different trim
pieces 2'.

R


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