"Jay Pique" <[email protected]> wrote
On Jul 5, 2:05 pm, Zz Yzx <[email protected]> wrote:
> It's highly probable the wood dust is causing your problem.
>
> We've had LOTS of threads in this group, re: allergic reactions to
> wood. Google is your friend. A good dust collection system is an
> even better friend.
I did a bit of googling and see that stable owners avoid walnut dust
like the plague. Now, I don't have (much) in common with a horse, but
this stuff is apparently toxic to some animals, so it's possible it is
indeed affecting me. Whadya know.
************
Jay, I am restraining myself to not comment on that horse line.
It should be pointed out that allergies often develop over time. And once
developed they can become genuine medical problems. Which is why a lot of
woodworkers, particularly as they get older, become fanatics about dust
control.
Prevention is the best policy.
On Sat, 5 Jul 2008 08:22:12 -0700 (PDT), Jay Pique
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I'm not sure if there's anything to this, but I've been sanding
>peruvian walnut and seem to get a headache when it's especially
>dusty. Maybe it's unrelated, but it's got me thinking. Anyone else
>have this occur?
>
>JP
If you wear a properly-fitted dust mask do you get a headache? I have
a Dust-Foe and if I don't wear it during sanding I will have sinus
headache! Some kind of wood dust is worse than others and walnut is
one of them.
On Jul 5, 7:37=A0pm, "Lee Michaels" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Jay Pique" <[email protected]> wrote
>
> On Jul 5, 2:05 pm, Zz Yzx <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > It's highly probable the wood dust is causing your problem.
>
> > We've had LOTS of threads in this group, re: allergic reactions to
> > wood. Google is your friend. A good dust collection system is an
> > even better friend.
>
> I did a bit of googling and see that stable owners avoid walnut dust
> like the plague. =A0Now, I don't have (much) in common with a horse, but
> this stuff is apparently toxic to some animals, so it's possible it is
> indeed affecting me. =A0Whadya know.
> ************
>
> Jay, I am restraining myself to not comment on that horse line.
<chuckling>
> It should be pointed out that allergies often develop over time. And once
> developed they can become genuine medical problems. =A0Which is why a lot=
of
> woodworkers, particularly as they get older, become fanatics about dust
> control.
I'm headed in that direction. This is another walnut side job I'm
doing from home and I haven't been too diligent about dust control.
Perhaps I really *need* some more Festools....
JP
"Fred the Red Shirt" wrote
> Dunno how closely related it is to Peruvian walnut but American Black
> walnut is fairly toxic and a number of woodworkers develop allergies
Black walnut is my favorite wood to work with, and I have indeed developed a
problem with the dust as I've gotten older .. the finer the dust, the worst
the reaction.
--
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Last update: 5/14/08
KarlC@ (the obvious)
On Jul 5, 10:08=A0pm, "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Fred the Red Shirt" wrote
>
> > Dunno how closely related it is to Peruvian walnut but American Black
> > walnut is fairly toxic and a number of woodworkers develop allergies
>
> Black walnut is my favorite wood to work with, and I have indeed develope=
d a
> problem with the dust as I've gotten older =A0.. the finer the dust, the =
worst
> the reaction.
I'm a big fan of this Peruvian Walnut already. Is black walnut the
same as American Walnut?
I'm beginning to think that prolonged expsure to wood dust may become
problematic for me. My allergies in general seem much worse this year
than in years prior.
JP
On Jul 5, 2:05=A0pm, Zz Yzx <[email protected]> wrote:
> It's highly probable the wood dust is causing your problem.
>
> We've had LOTS of threads in this group, re: allergic reactions to
> wood. =A0Google is your friend. =A0A good dust collection system is an
> even better friend.
I did a bit of googling and see that stable owners avoid walnut dust
like the plague. Now, I don't have (much) in common with a horse, but
this stuff is apparently toxic to some animals, so it's possible it is
indeed affecting me. Whadya know.
JP
On Jul 5, 7:37=A0pm, "Lee Michaels" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Jay Pique" <[email protected]> wrote
>
> On Jul 5, 2:05 pm, Zz Yzx <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > It's highly probable the wood dust is causing your problem.
>
> > We've had LOTS of threads in this group, re: allergic reactions to
> > wood. Google is your friend. A good dust collection system is an
> > even better friend.
>
> I did a bit of googling and see that stable owners avoid walnut dust
> like the plague. =A0Now, I don't have (much) in common with a horse, but
> this stuff is apparently toxic to some animals, so it's possible it is
> indeed affecting me. =A0Whadya know.
> ************
>
> Jay, I am restraining myself to not comment on that horse line.
>
That has GOT to be hard on you, Lee....like Roger Rabbit's "Shave-and-
a-haircut-...... ......."
On Jul 5, 4:03 pm, Jay Pique <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Jul 5, 2:05 pm, Zz Yzx <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > It's highly probable the wood dust is causing your problem.
>
> > We've had LOTS of threads in this group, re: allergic reactions to
> > wood. Google is your friend. A good dust collection system is an
> > even better friend.
>
> I did a bit of googling and see that stable owners avoid walnut dust
> like the plague. Now, I don't have (much) in common with a horse, but
> this stuff is apparently toxic to some animals, so it's possible it is
> indeed affecting me. Whadya know.
>
Dunno how closely related it is to Peruvian walnut but American Black
walnut is fairly toxic and a number of woodworkers develop allergies
to
it.
--
FF
On Jul 5, 12:46=A0pm, "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Jay Pique wrote:
> > I'm not sure if there's anything to this, but I've been sanding
> > peruvian walnut and seem to get a headache when it's especially
> > dusty. =A0Maybe it's unrelated, but it's got me thinking. =A0Anyone els=
e
> > have this occur?
>
> Is this peruvian walnut very hard and dense and does it make a lot of
> yellow dust?
No, it's not very hard or dense. It feels perhaps a bit less dense
than American Walnut. The dust is brown.
JP
On Jul 6, 7:11=A0am, Phisherman <[email protected]> wrote:
you wear a properly-fitted dust mask do you get a headache? =A0I have
> a Dust-Foe and if I don't wear it during sanding I will have sinus
> headache!
Where do you get your replacement filters?
JP
On Wed, 9 Jul 2008 16:54:47 -0700 (PDT), Jay Pique
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Jul 6, 7:11 am, Phisherman <[email protected]> wrote:
>you wear a properly-fitted dust mask do you get a headache? I have
>> a Dust-Foe and if I don't wear it during sanding I will have sinus
>> headache!
>
>Where do you get your replacement filters?
>
>JP
I know the Dustfoe 66 has been discontinued. When my filters are gone
I'll replace the mask. The paper filters don't work well, at least
on my face. You absolutely need a tight fit.
On Jul 5, 7:37=A0pm, "Lee Michaels" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Jay Pique" <[email protected]> wrote
>
> On Jul 5, 2:05 pm, Zz Yzx <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > It's highly probable the wood dust is causing your problem.
>
> > We've had LOTS of threads in this group, re: allergic reactions to
> > wood. Google is your friend. A good dust collection system is an
> > even better friend.
>
> I did a bit of googling and see that stable owners avoid walnut dust
> like the plague. =A0Now, I don't have (much) in common with a horse, but
> this stuff is apparently toxic to some animals, so it's possible it is
> indeed affecting me. =A0Whadya know.
> ************
>
> Jay, I am restraining myself to not comment on that horse line.
>
Oh come ON!
"Jay Pique" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I'm not sure if there's anything to this, but I've been sanding
> peruvian walnut and seem to get a headache when it's especially
> dusty. Maybe it's unrelated, but it's got me thinking. Anyone else
> have this occur?
>
> JP
Just to further the point that Zz made...which was dead on the money, by the
way...just about every wood out there that you might work, SOMEone is going
to react to it. And just about everyone has one that they react to, altho
that one isn't quite as constant...some people don't react, most do, tho.
Mike
On Sat 05 Jul 2008 10:22:12a, Jay Pique <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> I'm not sure if there's anything to this, but I've been sanding
> peruvian walnut and seem to get a headache when it's especially
> dusty. Maybe it's unrelated, but it's got me thinking. Anyone else
> have this occur?
>
> JP
Are you really breathing in a cloud of sawdust without any kind of
respirator or downdraft table or anything? Not even a windowbox fan with a
furnace filter bungi'd to the intake side?
On Jul 6, 5:51=A0am, Jay Pique <[email protected]> wrote:
> I'm headed in that direction. =A0This is another walnut side job I'm
> doing from home and I haven't been too diligent about dust control.
> Perhaps I really *need* some more Festools....
I wasn't kidding about that furnace filter fastened to an old
windowbox fan with a bungi cord. It does a pretty good job if your
face is far enough from the work. :-)
It was an episode of Woodsmith Shop that had the idea. Simple and
pretty effective.
On Jul 5, 12:29=A0pm, Dan <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sat 05 Jul 2008 10:22:12a, Jay Pique <[email protected]> wrote inne=
ws:[email protected]:
>
> > I'm not sure if there's anything to this, but I've been sanding
> > peruvian walnut and seem to get a headache when it's especially
> > dusty. =A0Maybe it's unrelated, but it's got me thinking. =A0Anyone els=
e
> > have this occur?
>
> > JP
>
> Are you really breathing in a cloud of sawdust without any kind of
> respirator or downdraft table or anything? Not even a windowbox fan with =
a
> furnace filter bungi'd to the intake side?
Yep.
JP
On Sat, 5 Jul 2008 08:22:12 -0700 (PDT), Jay Pique <[email protected]> wrote:
>I'm not sure if there's anything to this, but I've been sanding
>peruvian walnut and seem to get a headache when it's especially
>dusty. Maybe it's unrelated, but it's got me thinking. Anyone else
>have this occur?
>
>JP
Could be as simple as the dust giving you a sinus headache...
OTOH, could be a reaction to the wood itself... Any rash or anything where
you've made contact while sanding?
mac
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On Sun, 6 Jul 2008 03:51:12 -0700 (PDT), Jay Pique <[email protected]> wrote:
>> It should be pointed out that allergies often develop over time. And once
>> developed they can become genuine medical problems. Which is why a lot of
>> woodworkers, particularly as they get older, become fanatics about dust
>> control.
>
>I'm headed in that direction. This is another walnut side job I'm
>doing from home and I haven't been too diligent about dust control.
>Perhaps I really *need* some more Festools....
>
>JP
Just had a brain fart... I had a bad reaction to white oak once...
Really surprised me, because it never bothered me before...
My allergy doc asked if I had any problems with oak SINCE that, and I said no..
He suggested that it probably wasn't the specific wood, but probably a fungus or
something that the wood was carrying..
Maybe it's just THIS batch of walnut?
I'll admit that the only mask I wear is a "dust bee gone", which isn't a lot of
protection.. And I don't wear it often enough..
OTOH, I have a 4" DC hose with hood on the lathe, as close as I can get it
without it getting hit by the work, and a jet air filter on the ceiling..
I know the Jet works well, because I do a lot of ironwood and it takes just a
couple of hours for the outer filter to turn brown..
mac
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On Mon, 7 Jul 2008 13:04:27 -0700 (PDT), "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On Jul 6, 5:51 am, Jay Pique <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I'm headed in that direction. This is another walnut side job I'm
>> doing from home and I haven't been too diligent about dust control.
>> Perhaps I really *need* some more Festools....
>
>I wasn't kidding about that furnace filter fastened to an old
>windowbox fan with a bungi cord. It does a pretty good job if your
>face is far enough from the work. :-)
>
>It was an episode of Woodsmith Shop that had the idea. Simple and
>pretty effective.
My first "filter" was a round "air mover" fan, about 20" diameter, in a
cardboard box with a furnace filter bungied (is that a word?) on each end..
I found 2 things:
Even at low speed, it was way too much fan for the filters..
It was better to go ken Vaughn's route and have 2 furnace filters, a course one
and then a fine one, on the intake end and no filter on the exhaust side..
I use the ceiling mounted unit from Jet now, but, weather permitting, I still
use the big fan.. In the window blowing outside..
mac
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Jay Pique wrote:
> I'm not sure if there's anything to this, but I've been sanding
> peruvian walnut and seem to get a headache when it's especially
> dusty. Maybe it's unrelated, but it's got me thinking. Anyone else
> have this occur?
Is this peruvian walnut very hard and dense and does it make a lot of
yellow dust?
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--John
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Jay Pique wrote:
> On Jul 5, 12:46 pm, "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Jay Pique wrote:
>>> I'm not sure if there's anything to this, but I've been sanding
>>> peruvian walnut and seem to get a headache when it's especially
>>> dusty. Maybe it's unrelated, but it's got me thinking. Anyone else
>>> have this occur?
>>
>> Is this peruvian walnut very hard and dense and does it make a lot
>> of
>> yellow dust?
>
> No, it's not very hard or dense. It feels perhaps a bit less dense
> than American Walnut. The dust is brown.
That lets out it being ipe, which is sometimes sold as
"Peruvian/Brazilian/Argentinian/pick your South American country
Walnut", the dust of which is known to cause headaches.
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On Sat, 5 Jul 2008 08:22:12 -0700 (PDT), Jay Pique
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I'm not sure if there's anything to this, but I've been sanding
>peruvian walnut and seem to get a headache when it's especially
>dusty. Maybe it's unrelated, but it's got me thinking. Anyone else
>have this occur?
>
>JP
Walnut dust is poison.
And I'm alergic to it.
Gives me a headache, and binds up my throat so I can't breathe. WEAR A
DUST MASK!!!!!!!!!
It's at the point now that even that doesn't help.
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On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 07:43:34 -0400, Phisherman <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Wed, 9 Jul 2008 16:54:47 -0700 (PDT), Jay Pique
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On Jul 6, 7:11 am, Phisherman <[email protected]> wrote:
>>you wear a properly-fitted dust mask do you get a headache? I have
>>> a Dust-Foe and if I don't wear it during sanding I will have sinus
>>> headache!
>>
>>Where do you get your replacement filters?
>>
>>JP
>
>
>I know the Dustfoe 66 has been discontinued. When my filters are gone
>I'll replace the mask. The paper filters don't work well, at least
>on my face. You absolutely need a tight fit.
Having a beard, the only one that's worked for me is the Dust-bee-gone..
mac
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On Jul 5, 7:37 pm, "Lee Michaels" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Jay Pique" <[email protected]> wrote
>
> On Jul 5, 2:05 pm, Zz Yzx <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > It's highly probable the wood dust is causing your problem.
>
> > We've had LOTS of threads in this group, re: allergic reactions to
> > wood. Google is your friend. A good dust collection system is an
> > even better friend.
>
> I did a bit of googling and see that stable owners avoid walnut dust
> like the plague. Now, I don't have (much) in common with a horse, but
> this stuff is apparently toxic to some animals, so it's possible it is
> indeed affecting me. Whadya know.
> ************
>
> Jay, I am restraining myself to not comment on that horse line.
>
That has GOT to be hard on you, Lee....like Roger Rabbit's "Shave-and-
a-haircut-...... ......."
"...................two-bits!"
On Sat, 5 Jul 2008 08:22:12 -0700 (PDT), Jay Pique
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I'm not sure if there's anything to this, but I've been sanding
>peruvian walnut and seem to get a headache when it's especially
>dusty. Maybe it's unrelated, but it's got me thinking. Anyone else
>have this occur?
>
>JP
It's highly probable the wood dust is causing your problem.
We've had LOTS of threads in this group, re: allergic reactions to
wood. Google is your friend. A good dust collection system is an
even better friend.
Everybody seems to have their own problematic woods. For you,
peruvian walnut. For me, imbua. There are websites that list
reactions and toxicity parameters for various woods.
Be safe.
-Zz