I'm working on a project where I will have vertical partitions between
two horizontal shelves. I want these partitions to slide out and if
possible even pivot (i.e. 90 degrees on the vertical plane) so that
they can be viewed on their broad surface rather than their end surface
(i.e. what you will normally see when they have been slid back into
place). Maybe I can ascii-art this (I am sure proportional fonts are
going to screw this right up -- looks good in a mono-spaced font):
--------------------------
| + + |
| | | |
| | | |
| | | |
| | | |
| + + |
--------------------------
So that's two vertical dividers in a box, where the "+" are slides that
the dividers ride on so that they can be pulled out full extension.
Ideally, once the dividers are pulled all the way out, they could pivot
90 degrees left and right. The pivoting is gravy. What I am really
looking for are the slides. Anyone know where I can get them, or what
they are called?
If I didn't need full extension and (with luck) pivoting, I could just
easily route a couple of dados in the top and bottom shelves to achieve
the action I am looking for. Hope this helps explain what I am looking
for.
Any help appreciated, thanx!
b.
"shred00" wrote in message
> Any help appreciated, thanx!
If I understand correctly, you basically have a sliding shelf, turned on its
edge?
If so, why not normal full extension slides mounted top and bottom instead
of side to side ... this is what I use on pull-out spice racks?
Also might want to take a look at the various configurations of Flipper door
hinges and slides.
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Morris Dovey wrote:
>
> What you're looking for sounds a lot like the slide/pivot lash-up used
> on entertainment cabinets to hide/reveal the TV. You might look in
> that direction...
Ahh. Yes, very close. I am glad my description led you there. It
means at least somebody understood my description. :-)
The problem with those entertainment unit type hinges is that they
typically mount on the sides of the cabinet such as:
http://www.leevalley.com/hardware/page.aspx?c=1&cat=3,43614&p=43625
I need them to mount on the top and bottom of the cabinet. I could
almost use drawer slides (the method of affixing them would at least be
right) except that I don't think they have any strength when used in
that configuration.
Thanx for the idea though!
b.
Swingman wrote:
> "shred00" wrote in message
>
> > Any help appreciated, thanx!
>
> If I understand correctly, you basically have a sliding shelf, turned on its
> edge?
Heh. Yeah, exactly. I wonder why I didn't think of describing it so
succinctly.
> If so, why not normal full extension slides mounted top and bottom instead
> of side to side ... this is what I use on pull-out spice racks?
I guess I am just concerned about weight-load and those slides on their
sides like that. Perhaps I am over-estimating the weight load. The
"shelves" will be 24"x13", probably 1/2" plywood or so, with various
hand (mostly) tools hanging on them. Could get a bit heavy I guess. I
have some of those slides for some sliding shelves for the same
project. Maybe I should mount a couple sideways and see how strong
they are.
> Also might want to take a look at the various configurations of Flipper door
> hinges and slides.
Yeah, that is the sort of thing that Morris Dovey suggested but they
mount against the cabinet sides.
Thanx for the ideas though,
b.
shred00 wrote:
> The
> "shelves" will be 24"x13", probably 1/2" plywood or so, with various
> hand (mostly) tools hanging on them. Could get a bit heavy I guess.
ah. tool panels.
look, just put the panels on stout butt hinges, extended past the edge
far enough that they can swing both ways. slides are gonna be more
futzing about than they're worth.
[email protected] wrote:
>
> ah. tool panels.
:-)
> look, just put the panels on stout butt hinges, extended past the edge
> far enough that they can swing both ways. slides are gonna be more
> futzing about than they're worth.
Perhaps I am not following... this installation is in a 24" deep
closet, which is why I wanted/need to slide these panels out 24" to see
both sides, and ideally pivot so that I continue to face the closet
while I look at the panels.
b.
On 21 Jan 2007 14:23:34 -0800, "shred00" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Morris Dovey wrote:
>>
>> What you're looking for sounds a lot like the slide/pivot lash-up used
>> on entertainment cabinets to hide/reveal the TV. You might look in
>> that direction...
>
>Ahh. Yes, very close. I am glad my description led you there. It
>means at least somebody understood my description. :-)
>
>The problem with those entertainment unit type hinges is that they
>typically mount on the sides of the cabinet such as:
>http://www.leevalley.com/hardware/page.aspx?c=1&cat=3,43614&p=43625
>
>I need them to mount on the top and bottom of the cabinet. I could
>almost use drawer slides (the method of affixing them would at least be
>right) except that I don't think they have any strength when used in
>that configuration.
You could put a sliding dovetail in the top and bottom of the cabinet
that stops just short of the front edge. Then have a block with a
dovetail on one end and a dowel to act as a pivot on the other end.
It wouldn't be truly full extension, but if you cut off part of the
dovetail such that the pin is out further than the dovetail at least
you'll get the pivot out past the front of the cabinet. You'd have to
work out some kind of guide to keep it inline when retracted without
scuffing it up.
-Leuf
"shred00" wrote in message
> Yeah, that is the sort of thing that Morris Dovey suggested but they
> mount against the cabinet sides.
You need to think sideways again ... there are many flipper door slides that
mount, with an "L" bracket, to the sides, that will also mount to a floor
and top (or a wooden strip mounted across the floor and top). ;)
I use these on computer cabinets where the computers are mounted on pullout
slides and the flipper doors slide up, instead of sideways.
In any event, at least one possible solution to what you want to do
(providing you want to use/modify commercial slides) is the same principle
as the flipper door slide:
A vertical partition (door), attached by a hinge(s) to a vertical "follower
strip", with the "follower strip" attached to and running on the slides.
The problem with the "follower strip" method, as it is with flipper doors,
is that its width (plus a bit more for the hinged "join" to the partition)
is subtracted from the useable depth of the partition/door.
But that may be worth the tradeoff, particularly if you have a deep cabinet,
or can make it deeper.
FWIW ...
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