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"smd"

01/07/2006 2:41 AM

patio table


I'm making a simple table (no leaves or other extensions) for my small
(9x11) patio.

What is the smallest size the table could be to seat 4 people and still be
practical (a little room for food in the center)

Thanks


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"bent"

in reply to "smd" on 01/07/2006 2:41 AM

01/07/2006 12:58 PM

I made a 8' long rectangular pic table about a dozen yrs ago. It uses 3
2x10s for the top, and 2x12s for the seats. It is bolted to a painted black
steel frame designed for pic tables that allows you to sit down and slide
along without lifting your legs over anything It looks a bit like this from
the side: -?- (connect the nodes for seat supports) You can make the
table any length., and modify the width totally and individually. I've only
recently had to touch up the paint. It s a real bonus. I hate pic tables.
This is awesome. It is pine, and came with knots and all kinds of
character. I need to poly it every year. Not a big deal. Done in an
afternoon and looks excellent. I haven't lost any wood to rot, and it looks
great. Let it slide some years and its got water black stains. Excellent
still. Can bleach out and do. Just routered a roundover on all edges,
drilled holes and lag bolted. I take the top and seats off every winter to
lay flat. The top has 2x3s along length twice so it comes apart as a unit.
It is held flat 4x along 8' w/ supports attached.

I don't really know how weather proof cedar is supposed to be; don't know if
it can be used w/o polyurethane (don't use hi-gloss in sun!! go mid-scale),
however: I was at a log home showroom in Parry Sound, ON (Confederation
Loghomes) and thereabouts I saw a cedar pic table made from select cedar,
thick , and defect free cedar, and it was really outstanding. I'm in
Toronto. I do poly every year - sand and two coats, never outdoors in
winter. Especially if no poly is involved, I would have gone with this
cedar. It was wow. It was thick, like maybe the diff b/t 2x8 & 8/4 x 32/4,
I can't say. round closer to 2-1/2" than 1-1/2" if I had to choose. It was
prob 2" exactly. I can't even remember if it was polied. Why? Because.

You could design these legs out of wood, allow for cleaning around it, and
easy entry even if not rectangle

P.s Can anyone comment on the outdoor wear characteristics, and need for
poly, or even the size I saw for cedar?


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"bent"

in reply to "smd" on 01/07/2006 2:41 AM

01/07/2006 1:05 PM

it looked like dash - Pie symbol - dash
I bought the steel frame for under about $75?, and the position of bolting,
and total widths of top and seats is your choice, depending on wood size/
no. of pieces. Could use all 2x4s.
Held flat perpendicular to length 4x



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"bent"

in reply to "smd" on 01/07/2006 2:41 AM

01/07/2006 1:35 PM

oh, and I should mention that I believe the edges had a very small
roundover, in comparison. Not that you should or will follow this recipe.
It was like a buther block, flat, defect free, and a masterpiece.



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"bent"

in reply to "smd" on 01/07/2006 2:41 AM

01/07/2006 9:21 PM

yup



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"Gizmofiddler"

in reply to "smd" on 01/07/2006 2:41 AM

11/07/2006 12:04 AM


"smd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> I'm making a simple table (no leaves or other extensions) for my small
> (9x11) patio.
>
> What is the smallest size the table could be to seat 4 people and still be
> practical (a little room for food in the center)
>
> Thanks
>
How about a round picnic table?
The DVD at Netflix has a pdf file on the disk and shows on the video how to
make it.

http://www.netflix.com/Suggestion?movieid=70030474&trkid=1766

~Tom
aka Gizmofiddler

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"smd"

in reply to "smd" on 01/07/2006 2:41 AM

01/07/2006 7:47 PM

Thanks Bent, I already have some wicker chairs that I am planning on using
with the table so that steel frame you mentioned isn't needed..

But that is a great idea I will have to keep filed away for later use as I
hate the conventional "climb over seat" picnic table too.

JB

John B

in reply to "smd" on 01/07/2006 2:41 AM

01/07/2006 4:57 AM

smd wrote:
> I'm making a simple table (no leaves or other extensions) for my small
> (9x11) patio.
>
> What is the smallest size the table could be to seat 4 people and still be
> practical (a little room for food in the center)
>
> Thanks
>
>
From memory, without getting out my books 2'6" is the allowance for
each seated person. Eg A 5' x 2'6" would be the minimum size for 6 people.
regards
If the table were to be square or round I would suggest an absolute
minimum of 3'
regards
John

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"smd"

in reply to "smd" on 01/07/2006 2:41 AM

01/07/2006 7:41 PM


Thanks John, that seems like a reasonable/managable size. I'll give it a
try.


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