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[email protected] (Bob Itnyre)

12/06/2004 7:35 AM

computer program for scroll sawing

I have heard of a computer program that will use a picture of a
person, or anything for that matter, make it into stark black and
whites and then you can use it for a pattern to cut out whatever it
is. Has anyone heard of this program and if so what is it called? Know
where I can buy it? I'd look for it myself but I don't know what it's
called. Thanks Bob


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in reply to [email protected] (Bob Itnyre) on 12/06/2004 7:35 AM

15/06/2004 11:15 AM

In article <[email protected]>, J T
<[email protected]> wrote:

> You haven't presented any evidence why, If it's not important
> enough for you to spend time trying to find it, why should anyone else?

The OP didn't ask anyone to find it. He asked what it was called so
that HE could look for it. If you DON'T have the name for him, why
don't you simply ignore the thread?

Better to keep one's mouth closed and be thought a fool, than to open
it and remove all doubt.

Gerry

JJ

in reply to [email protected] (Bob Itnyre) on 12/06/2004 7:35 AM

12/06/2004 3:07 PM

Sat, Jun 12, 2004, 7:35am (EDT-3) [email protected] (Bob=A0Itnyre)
pleads eloquently:
<snip> I'd look for it myself but I don't know what it's called. Thanks
Bob

You haven't presented any evidence why, If it's not important
enough for you to spend time trying to find it, why should anyone else?

You're welcome.

JOAT
You know it's gonna be a bad day, when you turn on the news and they're
showing escape routes out of the city.

in

igor

in reply to [email protected] (Bob Itnyre) on 12/06/2004 7:35 AM

12/06/2004 7:00 PM

Depends in part on what the original is. If it is a person in front of a
white wall, that's easy. If it is a person in the midst of other people or
a busy background, that's a bit harder.

For the former, an easy to use, FREE!, and well-considered prodgam is the
irfan viewer: http://www.irfanview.com/main_start_engl.htm. Overall, the
comments by others here I agree with.

You want to open your image and then get the program to outline the edges
-- sometimes as easy as changing to B&W. In irfan, and the others, it can
be useful to first use a tool that outlines the edges in the image. In
irfan: image|effects|edge detection. Then I often use image|enhance colors
and slide the "gamma correction" slider back and forth - you'll see the
effects in a preview box. Next, if necessary, convert to B&W:
image|decrease colors|Black & white.

If you need to outline someone in a "busy" image, it's trickier and I have
not used those tools much. Some programs can essentially find the person
you want and take everything else out almost automatically. And, I am
unaware of freeware that will do the job. It may be good enough to use
irfan viewer anyway, as described above, and make some adjustemnets as to
where you cut.

While I've looked at many image programs over the years and played with
them, they can be frustrating, especially since they often come with no or
inadequate instructions. The good thing is that you don't have to measure
twice, cut once. Unlike the TS, there is an undo button. (Then again, I
always make a copy first of the original and work on the copy.) And, so
far I've never lost a finger using a graphics program (or using my TS!).
Lots of trial-and-ERROR.

Good luck.



On 12 Jun 2004 07:35:44 -0700, [email protected] (Bob Itnyre) wrote:

>I have heard of a computer program that will use a picture of a
>person, or anything for that matter, make it into stark black and
>whites and then you can use it for a pattern to cut out whatever it
>is. Has anyone heard of this program and if so what is it called? Know
>where I can buy it? I'd look for it myself but I don't know what it's
>called. Thanks Bob

Nn

Nova

in reply to [email protected] (Bob Itnyre) on 12/06/2004 7:35 AM

12/06/2004 1:05 PM

Bob Itnyre wrote:

> I have heard of a computer program that will use a picture of a
> person, or anything for that matter, make it into stark black and
> whites and then you can use it for a pattern to cut out whatever it
> is. Has anyone heard of this program and if so what is it called? Know
> where I can buy it? I'd look for it myself but I don't know what it's
> called. Thanks Bob

Just about any photo retouching software will be capable of doing what you
want. It is an "effect" to convert the picture to resemble a sketch. In
PaintShop Pro it's under "Effects" / "Artist's Effects". You have a
choice of "Black Pencil", "Charcoal", "Colored Pencil" etc. In Adobe
Photoshop it's under their "Filter" menu. You have various "Artistic" and
"Sketch" options.

--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA
(Remove "SPAM" from email address to reply)

bB

[email protected] (Bob Itnyre)

in reply to [email protected] (Bob Itnyre) on 12/06/2004 7:35 AM

12/06/2004 3:21 PM

Thanks for the information. I've now got some places to start. Thank You, Bob

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igor

in reply to [email protected] (Bob Itnyre) on 12/06/2004 7:35 AM

13/06/2004 3:07 AM

On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 22:47:09 -0400, Lucias Clay <[email protected]>
wrote:

>There is a great group over at MSN that deals primarily with scroll
>saw portraits. Look it up here:
>
>http://groups.msn.com/scrollsawportraits/
>
>In the forums there I have seen step by step instructions of how to do
>this with most of the leading graphics programs, even including Paint,
>which is on most windows based machines.
>
Oh, but I was looking for a group for scroll saws just for left-handers!

Every time I see a repsonse like yours - which is sooo perfect - I laugh
because many times there is, in fact, a group that is exactly focused on
the thing being sought. Sometimes this NG is like the classic hardware
store: No matter what someone is looking for, if it's not out front then
it's on some shelf upstairs in the back - or in this case, at another NG.

LC

Lucias Clay

in reply to [email protected] (Bob Itnyre) on 12/06/2004 7:35 AM

12/06/2004 10:47 PM

There is a great group over at MSN that deals primarily with scroll
saw portraits. Look it up here:

http://groups.msn.com/scrollsawportraits/

In the forums there I have seen step by step instructions of how to do
this with most of the leading graphics programs, even including Paint,
which is on most windows based machines.

Good luck.


On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 19:16:28 -0700, Larry Jaques
<novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote:

>On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 13:05:57 -0400, Nova <[email protected]>
>calmly ranted:
>
>>Bob Itnyre wrote:
>>
>>> I have heard of a computer program that will use a picture of a
>>> person, or anything for that matter, make it into stark black and
>>> whites and then you can use it for a pattern to cut out whatever it
>>> is. Has anyone heard of this program and if so what is it called? Know
>>> where I can buy it? I'd look for it myself but I don't know what it's
>>> called. Thanks Bob
>>
>>Just about any photo retouching software will be capable of doing what you
>>want. It is an "effect" to convert the picture to resemble a sketch. In
>>PaintShop Pro it's under "Effects" / "Artist's Effects". You have a
>>choice of "Black Pencil", "Charcoal", "Colored Pencil" etc. In Adobe
>>Photoshop it's under their "Filter" menu. You have various "Artistic" and
>>"Sketch" options.
>
>Corel Trace might be a better choice. Or Painter; with an overlay,
>he could trace the proper lines for cutout. (Then again, I have
>a digital tablet and pen which makes those jobs a whole lot easier.)
>
>
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"Mark L."

in reply to [email protected] (Bob Itnyre) on 12/06/2004 7:35 AM

12/06/2004 2:55 PM

Bob,
I assume this will be a photo from a scanner? If so, IIRC most photo
capturing software lets you capture in a 2 bit mode. There are no
greyscales, just black and white. I'm pretty sure Photoshop Elements
can do this. I have a copy, just haven't used it for a while. Let me
know if you want me to try it for you. Mark L.

Bob Itnyre wrote:
> I have heard of a computer program that will use a picture of a
> person, or anything for that matter, make it into stark black and
> whites and then you can use it for a pattern to cut out whatever it
> is. Has anyone heard of this program and if so what is it called? Know
> where I can buy it? I'd look for it myself but I don't know what it's
> called. Thanks Bob

Sh

Sprog

in reply to [email protected] (Bob Itnyre) on 12/06/2004 7:35 AM

14/06/2004 12:49 PM

Pattern Wizard
www.sgdesigns.com

[email protected] (Bob Itnyre) wrote:

>I have heard of a computer program that will use a picture of a
>person, or anything for that matter, make it into stark black and
>whites and then you can use it for a pattern to cut out whatever it
>is. Has anyone heard of this program and if so what is it called? Know
>where I can buy it? I'd look for it myself but I don't know what it's
>called. Thanks Bob

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to [email protected] (Bob Itnyre) on 12/06/2004 7:35 AM

12/06/2004 7:16 PM

On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 13:05:57 -0400, Nova <[email protected]>
calmly ranted:

>Bob Itnyre wrote:
>
>> I have heard of a computer program that will use a picture of a
>> person, or anything for that matter, make it into stark black and
>> whites and then you can use it for a pattern to cut out whatever it
>> is. Has anyone heard of this program and if so what is it called? Know
>> where I can buy it? I'd look for it myself but I don't know what it's
>> called. Thanks Bob
>
>Just about any photo retouching software will be capable of doing what you
>want. It is an "effect" to convert the picture to resemble a sketch. In
>PaintShop Pro it's under "Effects" / "Artist's Effects". You have a
>choice of "Black Pencil", "Charcoal", "Colored Pencil" etc. In Adobe
>Photoshop it's under their "Filter" menu. You have various "Artistic" and
>"Sketch" options.

Corel Trace might be a better choice. Or Painter; with an overlay,
he could trace the proper lines for cutout. (Then again, I have
a digital tablet and pen which makes those jobs a whole lot easier.)


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