I need to buy a new rabbeting bit. I've been using a Freud for quite a
while and it has seen better days. I never much liked it, truth be told,
because it has a slight up cut and tends to fuzz the top edge. The best
thing about it is that it has a bunch of bearings so depth of cut can be
varied; handy, but I could live without that ability.
What I want is a bit that has a 3/8 or better cutter height and makes great
3/8 wide rabbets. No up shear, straight or down shear.
So what's your favorite? And why?
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In article <[email protected]>, Larry Jaques
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Ever do it in a VW bug? Tilt the front seats forward and put your
> feet underneath, she's in the back seat with her ankles in the handy,
> provided ankle straps, and go for it. But that was when we were young
> pups. I wouldn't try that today, with these knees...
<firesign>
"Git in that barrel, darlin' and we'll do it 'urricane style!"
</firesign>
On Sat, 3 Apr 2010 17:04:52 -0700, the infamous "LDosser"
<[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>"Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On Fri, 2 Apr 2010 21:33:37 -0700, the infamous "LDosser"
>> <[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>>
>>>"Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>
>>>> If I had a spouse who skulked into my shop and tossed tools, she'd be
>>>> an EX in a real hurry, with brilliant red hand marks on her bum.
>>>
>>>With half inch of dust on it, it might as well be gone.
>>
>> Ain't no way my woman's but would ever sit idle long enough for that
Hey, who stole the second T from her butt?
>> much dust to settle on it. Ain't no way!
>>
>> But if it did, she'd be long gone.
>>
>This is the Shop. I don't have one of the Festering Vacuum Systems, so dust
>can build in a hurry ...
Hmm, I've never tried doin' it in the shop. Nah, too many dangerous,
sharp, and pointy things + absolutely -no- place to lay 'er down.
Ever do it in a VW bug? Tilt the front seats forward and put your
feet underneath, she's in the back seat with her ankles in the handy,
provided ankle straps, and go for it. But that was when we were young
pups. I wouldn't try that today, with these knees...
--
It is not the strongest of the species that survives, nor the most intelligent,
but the one most responsive to change.
-- Charles Darwin
"dadiOH" wrote:
>I need to buy a new rabbeting bit. I've been using a Freud for quite
>a
>while and it has seen better days. I never much liked it, truth be
>told,
>because it has a slight up cut and tends to fuzz the top edge. The
>best
>thing about it is that it has a bunch of bearings so depth of cut can
>be
>varied; handy, but I could live without that ability.
>
>What I want is a bit that has a 3/8 or better cutter height and makes
>great
>3/8 wide rabbets. No up shear, straight or down shear.
>
>So what's your favorite? And why?
-------------------------------------------
Had a CMT rabbeting bit set, but not the big router to swing it.
Had a Freud Dado set for the T/S.
Did a great job and was a lot faster than a router.
YMMV
Lew
On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 15:08:25 -0500, the infamous "dadiOH"
<[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>I need to buy a new rabbeting bit. I've been using a Freud for quite a
>while and it has seen better days. I never much liked it, truth be told,
>because it has a slight up cut and tends to fuzz the top edge. The best
>thing about it is that it has a bunch of bearings so depth of cut can be
>varied; handy, but I could live without that ability.
>
>What I want is a bit that has a 3/8 or better cutter height and makes great
>3/8 wide rabbets. No up shear, straight or down shear.
>
>So what's your favorite? And why?
Fave: 1/2" straight bit, hanging over the end of the board.
Why: Because I own one.
I have about 20 bits and use the 1/2" straight most often, followed by
the laminate trim bit, and then the plunge sink-cutout bit. I still
haven't used the nifty lock miter bit I bought, or the rail and stile
set.
--
It is not the strongest of the species that survives, nor the most intelligent,
but the one most responsive to change.
-- Charles Darwin
> Meant to say, "No up shear, straight or down shear OK".
>
>
>
> > So what's your favorite? =A0And why?
My favorite is my CMT Grand Rabbeting bit set that comes in an orange
case. It's got a slight up-shear, but I haven't had any trouble with
it tearing out the top at all. If fuzzing is a concern, couldn't you
just sand it off after cutting your rabbet?
JP
> I used the lock miter bit once....
I thought it was a great idea; the lock miter. Setup is so particular
that it isn't easy to do progressive cuts so you have to hog it all
off on one pass. I pre beveled a bunch of beautiful QS White Oak with
some of the best figure I have seen to make 4 ft tall by 4" square
posts for a craftsman bed for a client. That lessened the hogging
factor. My client wanted 4 sided figure so I built hollow boxes with
blocking where I had M&T joints. The bit was grabbing now and then and
unbeknownst (sp?) to me, it was slipping in the collet. Ruined the
whole bunch, had to buy and mill new stock, not nearly as nice.
Second time I bevel ripped the pieces and then cut 1/8 grooves on the
TS with a full kerf blade (about the only reason I keep one) the whole
length and used splines. Threw away the lock miter bit and have used
splines to build column boxes ever since.
dadiOH wrote:
> I need to buy a new rabbeting bit. I've been using a Freud for quite
> a while and it has seen better days. I never much liked it, truth be
> told, because it has a slight up cut and tends to fuzz the top edge. The
> best thing about it is that it has a bunch of bearings so depth
> of cut can be varied; handy, but I could live without that ability.
>
> What I want is a bit that has a 3/8 or better cutter height and makes
> great 3/8 wide rabbets. No up shear, straight or down shear.
Meant to say, "No up shear, straight or down shear OK".
>
> So what's your favorite? And why?
--
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Mark Whittingham wrote:
>> Meant to say, "No up shear, straight or down shear OK".
>>
>>
>>
>>> So what's your favorite? And why?
>
> My favorite is my CMT Grand Rabbeting bit set that comes in an orange
> case. It's got a slight up-shear, but I haven't had any trouble with
> it tearing out the top at all. If fuzzing is a concern, couldn't you
> just sand it off after cutting your rabbet?
Yes. Cut it off, actually, with a knife or chisel. That's what I want to
avoid.
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Larry Jaques wrote:
> On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 15:08:25 -0500, the infamous "dadiOH"
> <[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>
>> I need to buy a new rabbeting bit. I've been using a Freud for
>> quite a while and it has seen better days. I never much liked it,
>> truth be told, because it has a slight up cut and tends to fuzz the
>> top edge. The best thing about it is that it has a bunch of
>> bearings so depth of cut can be varied; handy, but I could live
>> without that ability.
>>
>> What I want is a bit that has a 3/8 or better cutter height and
>> makes great 3/8 wide rabbets. No up shear, straight or down shear.
>>
>> So what's your favorite? And why?
>
> Fave: 1/2" straight bit, hanging over the end of the board.
Sure, I do that too. However, the advantage of a rabbeting bit is that it
*always* cuts the same width rabbet, no measuring, no set up. Handy when
you need the same depth of cut on multiple things when they are cut at
different times.
--
dadiOH
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On Sun, 4 Apr 2010 18:16:29 -0700, the infamous "LDosser"
<[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>"Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On Sat, 3 Apr 2010 17:04:52 -0700, the infamous "LDosser"
>> <[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>>
>>>"Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>> On Fri, 2 Apr 2010 21:33:37 -0700, the infamous "LDosser"
>>>> <[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>>>>
>>>>>"Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>
>>>>>> If I had a spouse who skulked into my shop and tossed tools, she'd be
>>>>>> an EX in a real hurry, with brilliant red hand marks on her bum.
>>>>>
>>>>>With half inch of dust on it, it might as well be gone.
>>>>
>>>> Ain't no way my woman's but would ever sit idle long enough for that
>>
>> Hey, who stole the second T from her butt?
>
>Ah, that'd be you ...
No, I put the teeth marks there.
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needed: They must be fit for it. They must not do too much of it. And
they must have a sense of success in it.
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"Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 15:08:25 -0500, the infamous "dadiOH"
> <[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>
>>I need to buy a new rabbeting bit. I've been using a Freud for quite a
>>while and it has seen better days. I never much liked it, truth be told,
>>because it has a slight up cut and tends to fuzz the top edge. The best
>>thing about it is that it has a bunch of bearings so depth of cut can be
>>varied; handy, but I could live without that ability.
>>
>>What I want is a bit that has a 3/8 or better cutter height and makes
>>great
>>3/8 wide rabbets. No up shear, straight or down shear.
>>
>>So what's your favorite? And why?
>
> Fave: 1/2" straight bit, hanging over the end of the board.
> Why: Because I own one.
>
> I have about 20 bits and use the 1/2" straight most often, followed by
> the laminate trim bit, and then the plunge sink-cutout bit. I still
> haven't used the nifty lock miter bit I bought, or the rail and stile
> set.
I used the lock miter bit once. After a lot of test cuts, I did get it to
work on one project. Can't quite recall what the project was but I remember
every hour I spent sneaking up on the right settings. It's gathering dust
somewhere. Unless wife gave it to one of the kids or the Goodwill. Stuff I
don't use for a year or two tends to disappear ...
Me: "Nice radio, Dan, I've got one just like it."
Wife: "No you don't."
On 04/02/2010 10:48 AM, SonomaProducts.com wrote:
>
>> I used the lock miter bit once....
>
> I thought it was a great idea; the lock miter. Setup is so particular
> that it isn't easy to do progressive cuts so you have to hog it all
> off on one pass. I pre beveled a bunch of beautiful QS White Oak with
> some of the best figure I have seen to make 4 ft tall by 4" square
> posts for a craftsman bed for a client. That lessened the hogging
> factor. My client wanted 4 sided figure so I built hollow boxes with
> blocking where I had M&T joints. The bit was grabbing now and then and
> unbeknownst (sp?) to me, it was slipping in the collet. Ruined the
> whole bunch, had to buy and mill new stock, not nearly as nice.
>
> Second time I bevel ripped the pieces and then cut 1/8 grooves on the
> TS with a full kerf blade (about the only reason I keep one) the whole
> length and used splines. Threw away the lock miter bit and have used
> splines to build column boxes ever since.
I've heard this claim about lock miter bits many times, and I don't understand what makes
people think you have to hog off the entire amount in one pass; it ain't true. I posted a
detailed dissertation about my method of setting up and using a lock miter bit a few months
ago; I guess I'll have to go dig that up...
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"Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 22:34:29 -0700, the infamous "LDosser"
> <[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>
>>"Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>> On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 15:08:25 -0500, the infamous "dadiOH"
>>> <[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>>>
>>>>I need to buy a new rabbeting bit. I've been using a Freud for quite a
>>>>while and it has seen better days. I never much liked it, truth be
>>>>told,
>>>>because it has a slight up cut and tends to fuzz the top edge. The best
>>>>thing about it is that it has a bunch of bearings so depth of cut can be
>>>>varied; handy, but I could live without that ability.
>>>>
>>>>What I want is a bit that has a 3/8 or better cutter height and makes
>>>>great
>>>>3/8 wide rabbets. No up shear, straight or down shear.
>>>>
>>>>So what's your favorite? And why?
>>>
>>> Fave: 1/2" straight bit, hanging over the end of the board.
>>> Why: Because I own one.
>>>
>>> I have about 20 bits and use the 1/2" straight most often, followed by
>>> the laminate trim bit, and then the plunge sink-cutout bit. I still
>>> haven't used the nifty lock miter bit I bought, or the rail and stile
>>> set.
>>
>>
>>I used the lock miter bit once. After a lot of test cuts, I did get it to
>>work on one project. Can't quite recall what the project was but I
>>remember
>>every hour I spent sneaking up on the right settings. It's gathering dust
>>somewhere. Unless wife gave it to one of the kids or the Goodwill. Stuff I
>>don't use for a year or two tends to disappear ...
>>
>>Me: "Nice radio, Dan, I've got one just like it."
>>Wife: "No you don't."
>
> If I had a spouse who skulked into my shop and tossed tools, she'd be
> an EX in a real hurry, with brilliant red hand marks on her bum.
>
With half inch of dust on it, it might as well be gone.
"Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Fri, 2 Apr 2010 21:33:37 -0700, the infamous "LDosser"
> <[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>
>>"Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
>>> If I had a spouse who skulked into my shop and tossed tools, she'd be
>>> an EX in a real hurry, with brilliant red hand marks on her bum.
>>
>>With half inch of dust on it, it might as well be gone.
>
> Ain't no way my woman's but would ever sit idle long enough for that
> much dust to settle on it. Ain't no way!
>
> But if it did, she'd be long gone.
>
This is the Shop. I don't have one of the Festering Vacuum Systems, so dust
can build in a hurry ...
"Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sat, 3 Apr 2010 17:04:52 -0700, the infamous "LDosser"
> <[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>
>>"Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>> On Fri, 2 Apr 2010 21:33:37 -0700, the infamous "LDosser"
>>> <[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>>>
>>>>"Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>
>>>>> If I had a spouse who skulked into my shop and tossed tools, she'd be
>>>>> an EX in a real hurry, with brilliant red hand marks on her bum.
>>>>
>>>>With half inch of dust on it, it might as well be gone.
>>>
>>> Ain't no way my woman's but would ever sit idle long enough for that
>
> Hey, who stole the second T from her butt?
Ah, that'd be you ...
"Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sun, 4 Apr 2010 18:16:29 -0700, the infamous "LDosser"
> <[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>
>>"Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>> On Sat, 3 Apr 2010 17:04:52 -0700, the infamous "LDosser"
>>> <[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>>>
>>>>"Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>>> On Fri, 2 Apr 2010 21:33:37 -0700, the infamous "LDosser"
>>>>> <[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>>>>>
>>>>>>"Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>>
>>>>>>> If I had a spouse who skulked into my shop and tossed tools, she'd
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> an EX in a real hurry, with brilliant red hand marks on her bum.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>With half inch of dust on it, it might as well be gone.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ain't no way my woman's but would ever sit idle long enough for that
>>>
>>> Hey, who stole the second T from her butt?
>>
>>Ah, that'd be you ...
>
> No, I put the teeth marks there.
>
I wondered about that ...
On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 22:34:29 -0700, the infamous "LDosser"
<[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>"Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 15:08:25 -0500, the infamous "dadiOH"
>> <[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>>
>>>I need to buy a new rabbeting bit. I've been using a Freud for quite a
>>>while and it has seen better days. I never much liked it, truth be told,
>>>because it has a slight up cut and tends to fuzz the top edge. The best
>>>thing about it is that it has a bunch of bearings so depth of cut can be
>>>varied; handy, but I could live without that ability.
>>>
>>>What I want is a bit that has a 3/8 or better cutter height and makes
>>>great
>>>3/8 wide rabbets. No up shear, straight or down shear.
>>>
>>>So what's your favorite? And why?
>>
>> Fave: 1/2" straight bit, hanging over the end of the board.
>> Why: Because I own one.
>>
>> I have about 20 bits and use the 1/2" straight most often, followed by
>> the laminate trim bit, and then the plunge sink-cutout bit. I still
>> haven't used the nifty lock miter bit I bought, or the rail and stile
>> set.
>
>
>I used the lock miter bit once. After a lot of test cuts, I did get it to
>work on one project. Can't quite recall what the project was but I remember
>every hour I spent sneaking up on the right settings. It's gathering dust
>somewhere. Unless wife gave it to one of the kids or the Goodwill. Stuff I
>don't use for a year or two tends to disappear ...
>
>Me: "Nice radio, Dan, I've got one just like it."
>Wife: "No you don't."
If I had a spouse who skulked into my shop and tossed tools, she'd be
an EX in a real hurry, with brilliant red hand marks on her bum.
--
It is not the strongest of the species that survives, nor the most intelligent,
but the one most responsive to change.
-- Charles Darwin
On Fri, 2 Apr 2010 21:33:37 -0700, the infamous "LDosser"
<[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>"Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> If I had a spouse who skulked into my shop and tossed tools, she'd be
>> an EX in a real hurry, with brilliant red hand marks on her bum.
>
>With half inch of dust on it, it might as well be gone.
Ain't no way my woman's but would ever sit idle long enough for that
much dust to settle on it. Ain't no way!
But if it did, she'd be long gone.
--
It is not the strongest of the species that survives, nor the most intelligent,
but the one most responsive to change.
-- Charles Darwin