Yea, though I walk through the valley of death, I shall fear no evil,
because Lee Valley has taken all my money again and there's none
left to spend anywhere else.
Just bought my first decent plane, the Veritas Low-Angle Smooth Plane
with A2 blade. Since it was also staring me in the face, I also bought
the Veritas Jointer Fence to go with it. $250 poorer, I'm now on the
street begging for money so I can go buy more planes. Worse than a
slippery slope, it's essentially a vertical drop. Someone help me!
http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=1&p=45864&cat=1,41182,41187&ap=1
http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=1&p=41716&cat=1,41182
In article <[email protected]>, Larry Jaques
<novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote:
> I haven't bought anything from Lee since the Kanuckistani Looney
> charged right up there along the failing dollar. <deeply hurt sigh>
Hey, they've a nice book on sale right now. I drove by after work today
and picked up a copy...
<http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=1&p=50622&cat=1,44047&ap=1>
Fifteen and an arf Canuckibux. Hardcover, even. Beautiful plumage!
"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> diggerop wrote:
>
>> This nation has a relatively small population, (22 million at present)
>> plus large distances between population centres,
>
> Yabbut, over much of it'd take 100 acres to run one head of cattle. :)
>
>
> --
> www.e-woodshop.net
> Last update: 10/22/08
> KarlC@ (the obvious)
Heh, that or worse in places. Some, on the other hand is first class cattle
country. Fortunately, we do have an abundance of land area, - my state (WA)
almost is almost 4 times the size of Texas ; )
diggerop
On Sun, 01 Nov 2009 20:27:02 -0600, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Heh, that or worse in places. Some, on the other hand is first class
>> cattle country. Fortunately, we do have an abundance of land area, - my
>> state (WA) almost is almost 4 times the size of Texas ; )
>I don't know how old you are, but there is a good chance I was there
>before you. 22 million, eh? You think it's empty now ... the population
>has exactly doubled since I lived there in the early 60's. :)
Kind of strange isn't it? Everywhere else, populations have quadrupled
and more. What's with all these TV shows I've seen where the
Australian man is depicted as spending 90% of his time chasing (and
catching) women?
Since the remaining 10% of the Australian man's time is shown to be
spent by drinking, I'm guessing that he's too drunk when he catches
those women.
Either that or most of them have suffered catastrophic personal
injuries by playing Australian rules football.
:)
On 10/31/2009 3:09 PM [email protected] spake thus:
> Yea, though I walk through the valley of death, I shall fear no evil,
> because Lee Valley has taken all my money again and there's none
> left to spend anywhere else.
>
> Just bought my first decent plane, the Veritas Low-Angle Smooth Plane
> with A2 blade. Since it was also staring me in the face, I also bought
> the Veritas Jointer Fence to go with it. $250 poorer, I'm now on the
> street begging for money so I can go buy more planes. Worse than a
> slippery slope, it's essentially a vertical drop. Someone help me!
>
> http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=1&p=45864&cat=1,41182,41187&ap=1
> http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=1&p=41716&cat=1,41182
Sorry, no can do. You see, that's the reason we have programs, such as
San Francisco's "Care Not Cash", that give homeless people such as
yourself vouchers for shelter and food. Otherwise, they'd just spend all
that money on tools.
--
Who needs a junta or a dictatorship when you have a Congress
blowing Wall Street, using the media as a condom?
- harvested from Usenet
On Nov 1, 10:36=A0am, "diggerop" <toobusy@themoment> wrote:
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
>
> > On Sun, 1 Nov 2009 10:54:24 +0800, "diggerop" <toobusy@themoment>
> > wrote:
>
> >>> Just bought my first decent plane, the Veritas Low-Angle Smooth Plane
> >>> with A2 blade.
>
> >>That almost qualifies as a gloat when compared to the pricing for the s=
ame
> >>plane here in Oz. =A0: )
>
> >>http://www.carbatec.com.au/veritas-low-angle-smoothing-plane_c6930
>
> > That's pretty steep considering the exchange rate is reasonable even.
> > I'll bet a sizable portion of the amount is for shipping. There must
> > be a few decent tool manufacturers in Oz. How do their prices compare?
>
> There are some excellent small-scale tool makers over here, however, they
> are all relatively expensive.
> e.g. Harold and Saxon chisels - $700 plus for a set of six, HNT Gordon
> wooden planes - starting at $380.
>
> This nation has a relatively small population, (22 million at present) pl=
us
> large distances between population centres, along with a largely unionise=
d
> and expensive workforce. Shipping is expensive. Large scale, low cost
> manufacture requires that we compete with and export to, the rest of the
> world. We cannot. Consequently, local manufacture is expensive.
>
> diggerop
It is safe to say that all your exports are to overseas markets? <G>
On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 18:09:46 -0500, [email protected] wrote:
>
>Yea, though I walk through the valley of death, I shall fear no evil,
>because Lee Valley has taken all my money again and there's none
>left to spend anywhere else.
>
>Just bought my first decent plane, the Veritas Low-Angle Smooth Plane
>with A2 blade. Since it was also staring me in the face, I also bought
>the Veritas Jointer Fence to go with it. $250 poorer, I'm now on the
>street begging for money so I can go buy more planes. Worse than a
>slippery slope, it's essentially a vertical drop. Someone help me!
>
>http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=1&p=45864&cat=1,41182,41187&ap=1
>http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=1&p=41716&cat=1,41182
Havng bought my first Veritas plane a few months ago (the #4 smooth)
and experienced the joys of working with such a truly fine tool, I can
offer you no help, only sympathy. Probably best that you hand your
credit card over to SWMBO while you're still far enough from that
precipice to retain your solvency.
Reply-to address is real
John
<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Yea, though I walk through the valley of death, I shall fear no evil,
> because Lee Valley has taken all my money again and there's none
> left to spend anywhere else.
>
> Just bought my first decent plane, the Veritas Low-Angle Smooth Plane
> with A2 blade. Since it was also staring me in the face, I also bought
> the Veritas Jointer Fence to go with it. $250 poorer, I'm now on the
> street begging for money so I can go buy more planes. Worse than a
> slippery slope, it's essentially a vertical drop. Someone help me!
>
> http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=1&p=45864&cat=1,41182,41187&ap=1
> http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=1&p=41716&cat=1,4
That almost qualifies as a gloat when compared to the pricing for the same
plane here in Oz. : )
http://www.carbatec.com.au/veritas-low-angle-smoothing-plane_c6930
(Scroll down for pricing)
diggerop
On Sun, 01 Nov 2009 21:54:20 -0500, John <[email protected]>
wrote:
>>the Veritas Jointer Fence to go with it. $250 poorer, I'm now on the
>>street begging for money so I can go buy more planes. Worse than a
>>slippery slope, it's essentially a vertical drop. Someone help me!
>offer you no help, only sympathy. Probably best that you hand your
>credit card over to SWMBO while you're still far enough from that
No SWMBO around, which may or may not be a good thing when it comes to
my money, but either way I'm doomed. I'm already looking for ways to
sharpen the damned thing and I haven't even used it yet. Considered
the Lee Valley MKII for $399.00, but I think I'll go with the
Worksharp3000 for $239.00.
As usual when buying some tool, I suffer from the woodworker's chronic
impairment of rationalization. I easily envision using it all sorts
of other places besides the current project I happen to be working
one. Once that happens, I'm doomed to buy something else. Once in
awhile I actually envision that if I was a klutz at building or fixing
things, I might actually be rich.
"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:4f1bb345-3397-47af-a948-854ffec073ff@d10g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
On Nov 1, 10:36 am, "diggerop" <toobusy@themoment> wrote:
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
>
> > On Sun, 1 Nov 2009 10:54:24 +0800, "diggerop" <toobusy@themoment>
> > wrote:
>
> >>> Just bought my first decent plane, the Veritas Low-Angle Smooth Plane
> >>> with A2 blade.
>
> >>That almost qualifies as a gloat when compared to the pricing for the
> >>same
> >>plane here in Oz. : )
>
> >>http://www.carbatec.com.au/veritas-low-angle-smoothing-plane_c6930
>
> > That's pretty steep considering the exchange rate is reasonable even.
> > I'll bet a sizable portion of the amount is for shipping. There must
> > be a few decent tool manufacturers in Oz. How do their prices compare?
>
> There are some excellent small-scale tool makers over here, however, they
> are all relatively expensive.
> e.g. Harold and Saxon chisels - $700 plus for a set of six, HNT Gordon
> wooden planes - starting at $380.
>
> This nation has a relatively small population, (22 million at present)
> plus
> large distances between population centres, along with a largely unionised
> and expensive workforce. Shipping is expensive. Large scale, low cost
> manufacture requires that we compete with and export to, the rest of the
> world. We cannot. Consequently, local manufacture is expensive.
>
> diggerop
It is safe to say that all your exports are to overseas markets? <G>
Heh. One of the quirks of being an island nation. I'd imagine that having
that enormous affluent potential market sitting below your southern border
must be a huge plus for Canadian manufacture.
diggerop wrote:
> "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> diggerop wrote:
>>
>>> This nation has a relatively small population, (22 million at
>>> present) plus large distances between population centres,
>>
>> Yabbut, over much of it'd take 100 acres to run one head of cattle. :)
>>
>>
>> --
>> www.e-woodshop.net
>> Last update: 10/22/08
>> KarlC@ (the obvious)
>
>
> Heh, that or worse in places. Some, on the other hand is first class
> cattle country. Fortunately, we do have an abundance of land area, - my
> state (WA) almost is almost 4 times the size of Texas ; )
I don't know how old you are, but there is a good chance I was there
before you. 22 million, eh? You think it's empty now ... the population
has exactly doubled since I lived there in the early 60's. :)
--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 10/22/08
KarlC@ (the obvious)
On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 02:23:23 +0800, "diggerop" <toobusy@themoment>
wrote:
>It is safe to say that all your exports are to overseas markets? <G>
>
>Heh. One of the quirks of being an island nation. I'd imagine that having
>that enormous affluent potential market sitting below your southern border
>must be a huge plus for Canadian manufacture.
Of course, but it also has some unique disadvantages too.
<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sun, 01 Nov 2009 20:27:02 -0600, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>> Heh, that or worse in places. Some, on the other hand is first class
>>> cattle country. Fortunately, we do have an abundance of land area, - my
>>> state (WA) almost is almost 4 times the size of Texas ; )
>
>>I don't know how old you are, but there is a good chance I was there
>>before you. 22 million, eh? You think it's empty now ... the population
>>has exactly doubled since I lived there in the early 60's. :)
>
> Kind of strange isn't it? Everywhere else, populations have quadrupled
> and more. What's with all these TV shows I've seen where the
> Australian man is depicted as spending 90% of his time chasing (and
> catching) women?
>
> Since the remaining 10% of the Australian man's time is shown to be
> spent by drinking, I'm guessing that he's too drunk when he catches
> those women.
>
> Either that or most of them have suffered catastrophic personal
> injuries by playing Australian rules football.
>
> :)
There's a perfectly reasonable explanation for this. The reason we spend so
much time chasing women is so we can have someone to cook and clean and
fetch cold beer. This allows us to focus on the most important things in
life, - eating, drinking, watching football, drinking, fishing, drinking,
shooting, drinking and watching cricket. As a bonus, a really good woman
will also go and earn the money to pay for the beer. There may be something
else she could do, but it escapes me at the moment. ; )
diggerop
<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sun, 1 Nov 2009 10:54:24 +0800, "diggerop" <toobusy@themoment>
> wrote:
>
>>> Just bought my first decent plane, the Veritas Low-Angle Smooth Plane
>>> with A2 blade.
>
>>That almost qualifies as a gloat when compared to the pricing for the same
>>plane here in Oz. : )
>>
>>http://www.carbatec.com.au/veritas-low-angle-smoothing-plane_c6930
>
> That's pretty steep considering the exchange rate is reasonable even.
> I'll bet a sizable portion of the amount is for shipping. There must
> be a few decent tool manufacturers in Oz. How do their prices compare?
There are some excellent small-scale tool makers over here, however, they
are all relatively expensive.
e.g. Harold and Saxon chisels - $700 plus for a set of six, HNT Gordon
wooden planes - starting at $380.
This nation has a relatively small population, (22 million at present) plus
large distances between population centres, along with a largely unionised
and expensive workforce. Shipping is expensive. Large scale, low cost
manufacture requires that we compete with and export to, the rest of the
world. We cannot. Consequently, local manufacture is expensive.
diggerop
On Sun, 1 Nov 2009 10:54:24 +0800, "diggerop" <toobusy@themoment>
wrote:
>> Just bought my first decent plane, the Veritas Low-Angle Smooth Plane
>> with A2 blade.
>That almost qualifies as a gloat when compared to the pricing for the same
>plane here in Oz. : )
>
>http://www.carbatec.com.au/veritas-low-angle-smoothing-plane_c6930
That's pretty steep considering the exchange rate is reasonable even.
I'll bet a sizable portion of the amount is for shipping. There must
be a few decent tool manufacturers in Oz. How do their prices compare?
<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Yea, though I walk through the valley of death, I shall fear no evil,
> because Lee Valley has taken all my money again and there's none
> left to spend anywhere else.
>
> Just bought my first decent plane, the Veritas Low-Angle Smooth Plane
> with A2 blade. Since it was also staring me in the face, I also bought
> the Veritas Jointer Fence to go with it. $250 poorer, I'm now on the
> street begging for money so I can go buy more planes. Worse than a
> slippery slope, it's essentially a vertical drop. Someone help me!
>
> http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=1&p=45864&cat=1,41182,41187&ap=1
> http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=1&p=41716&cat=1,41182
Congratulations on your new plane!
You got both pieces for less than the price of a midgrade CPU--and in three
years,
you probably wouldn't give the CPU a second look.... the plane will always
look
beautiful...
Bill
diggerop wrote:
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> On Sun, 01 Nov 2009 20:27:02 -0600, Swingman <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>> Heh, that or worse in places. Some, on the other hand is first
>>>> class
>>>> cattle country. Fortunately, we do have an abundance of land
>>>> area, - my
>>>> state (WA) almost is almost 4 times the size of Texas ; )
>>
>>>I don't know how old you are, but there is a good chance I was
>>>there before you. 22 million, eh? You think it's empty now ... the
>>>population has exactly doubled since I lived there in the early
>>>60's. :)
>>
>> Kind of strange isn't it? Everywhere else, populations have
>> quadrupled and more. What's with all these TV shows I've seen where
>> the Australian man is depicted as spending 90% of his time chasing
>> (and catching) women?
>>
>> Since the remaining 10% of the Australian man's time is shown to be
>> spent by drinking, I'm guessing that he's too drunk when he catches
>> those women.
>>
>> Either that or most of them have suffered catastrophic personal
>> injuries by playing Australian rules football.
>>
>> :)
>
>
> There's a perfectly reasonable explanation for this. The reason we
> spend so much time chasing women is so we can have someone to cook
> and clean and fetch cold beer. This allows us to focus on the most
> important things in
> life, - eating, drinking, watching football, drinking, fishing,
> drinking, shooting, drinking and watching cricket. As a bonus, a
> really good woman will also go and earn the money to pay for the
> beer. There may be something
> else she could do, but it escapes me at the moment. ; )
>
> diggerop
Feed the dogs.
basilisk
--
http://www.welshpembrokecorgis.com
"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> diggerop wrote:
>> "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> diggerop wrote:
>>>
>>>> This nation has a relatively small population, (22 million at present)
>>>> plus large distances between population centres,
>>>
>>> Yabbut, over much of it'd take 100 acres to run one head of cattle. :)
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> www.e-woodshop.net
>>> Last update: 10/22/08
>>> KarlC@ (the obvious)
>>
>>
>> Heh, that or worse in places. Some, on the other hand is first class
>> cattle country. Fortunately, we do have an abundance of land area, - my
>> state (WA) almost is almost 4 times the size of Texas ; )
>
> I don't know how old you are, but there is a good chance I was there
> before you. 22 million, eh? You think it's empty now ... the population
> has exactly doubled since I lived there in the early 60's. :)
>
>
> --
> www.e-woodshop.net
> Last update: 10/22/08
> KarlC@ (the obvious)
Was about 8.5 million when I was born.
How old am I? ...... it depends on which part ..... the body has lots of
creaky joints and doesn't seem to work as good as it used to. The brain, on
the other hand, is convinced that it is perennially 25 years old and the
rest of the body had better get moving and keep up. : )
diggerop
On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 23:21:58 -0600, the infamous Dave Balderstone
<dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> scrawled the following:
>In article <[email protected]>, Larry Jaques
><novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote:
>
>> I haven't bought anything from Lee since the Kanuckistani Looney
>> charged right up there along the failing dollar. <deeply hurt sigh>
>
>Hey, they've a nice book on sale right now. I drove by after work today
>and picked up a copy...
>
><http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=1&p=50622&cat=1,44047&ap=1>
>
>Fifteen and an arf Canuckibux. Hardcover, even. Beautiful plumage!
Cool. From $12.89 on eBay and Amazoned, too!
---
Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight
very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands.
It hopes we've learned something from yesterday.
--John Wayne (1907 - 1979)
On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 18:09:46 -0500, the infamous [email protected]
scrawled the following:
>
>Yea, though I walk through the valley of death, I shall fear no evil,
>because Lee Valley has taken all my money again and there's none
>left to spend anywhere else.
>
>Just bought my first decent plane, the Veritas Low-Angle Smooth Plane
>with A2 blade. Since it was also staring me in the face, I also bought
>the Veritas Jointer Fence to go with it. $250 poorer,
>
>http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=1&p=45864&cat=1,41182,41187&ap=1
>http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=1&p=41716&cat=1,41182
I haven't bought anything from Lee since the Kanuckistani Looney
charged right up there along the failing dollar. <deeply hurt sigh>
>I'm now on the
>street begging for money so I can go buy more planes. Worse than a
>slippery slope, it's essentially a vertical drop. Someone help me!
Send me all your planes and SIN NO MORE, HEATHEN! (Got my address?)
---
Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight
very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands.
It hopes we've learned something from yesterday.
--John Wayne (1907 - 1979)