"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of
the people. On some great and glorious day the plain
folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at
last and the White House will be adorned by a
downright moron."
H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)*
Are we there yet?
charlie b
"Greg Millen"
>
> "Fletis Humplebacker" <!> wrote in message ...
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> > "Paul Kierstead" <
> >
> >> "Fletis Humplebacker"
> >>
> >> > "Unisaw A100"
> >> > plonk
> >>
> >> ROFL! I'll bet getting plonked for an empty reply to an OT thread has
> >> gotta be pretty close to a first.
> >
> >
> > Every one I saw was blank. But everything had a first time...
>
> You must read only OT threads, his replies to topical discussions are well
> worth reading and you will miss a lot. This is simply his way of commenting
> about OT threads, of which there are way too many.
So adding to them makes them less so? Maybe
it makes sense to you but why click on a post if
you know you don't want to read it? Obviously many
do want to, a moderated group would be a better place
for those who are so disturbed.
"Fletis Humplebacker" <!> wrote in message ...
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> "Paul Kierstead" <
>
>> "Fletis Humplebacker"
>>
>> > "Unisaw A100"
>> > plonk
>>
>> ROFL! I'll bet getting plonked for an empty reply to an OT thread has
>> gotta be pretty close to a first.
>
>
> Every one I saw was blank. But everything had a first time...
You must read only OT threads, his replies to topical discussions are well
worth reading and you will miss a lot. This is simply his way of commenting
about OT threads, of which there are way too many.
"Fletis Humplebacker" <!> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
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> "Greg Millen"
>>
>> "Fletis Humplebacker" <!> wrote in message ...
>> >
>> > "Paul Kierstead" <
>> >
>> >> "Fletis Humplebacker"
> So adding to them makes them less so? Maybe
> it makes sense to you but why click on a post if
> you know you don't want to read it? Obviously many
> do want to, a moderated group would be a better place
> for those who are so disturbed.
I offered an explanation of why he was doing the blank posts but I can't
argue with you as to why he continues to do so, that's his choice. Even if I
end up agreeing with you about the 'right' to post OT, it won't affect him
at all.
--
Greg
Quoth charlie b:
>
>"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
>represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of
>the people. On some great and glorious day the plain
>folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at
>last and the White House will be adorned by a
>downright moron."
>
> H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)*
>
>Are we there yet?
>
Close. Very, very close.
Charlie Self
"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence
clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of
hobgoblins, all of them imaginary." H. L. Mencken
If you listened to former losers, we've been there every time.
Given the responses of the lefties here, I find the righties analysts'
charge of "elitism" humorous. No intellectual responses noted.
Lots of curmudgeonly ones, of course. Next, another quotation from Ambrose
Bierce - oops, lemme check Charlie, might already be one....
"charlie b" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "As democracy is perfected, the office of president
> represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of
> the people. On some great and glorious day the plain
> folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at
> last and the White House will be adorned by a
> downright moron."
>
> H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)*
>
> Are we there yet?
>
> charlie b
David Hall wrote:
> > Are we there yet?
> >
> > charlie b
>
> I don't know...were you elected?
Not since Boys State many many years ago.
I skipped Boys Nation - and missed being
there with Bill Clinton.
Me, I'll just try to make the little parts of
the universe I can physically touch just
a little better than how I found them. Will
leave the world movers and shakers to
their own hell.
This nation survived the Civil War, Hitler/
Tojo/Mussolini, the Viet Nam War/Nixon/
The Summer of Riots and Fires, so it'll
continue despite who is in the White House
or Congress. Pretty slick thinking on the
part of the founders.
As for left wing/right wing ..., go back and
read the Constitution again. Pay particular
attention to the "it is the right and the duty"
sentence. Them was some pretty radical
dudes who wrote that document.
Back to figuring out how to correctly
install the knife hinges on the coopered
doors of the cabinet I'm making. Here's
where I'm at if anyone wants to get back
to woodworking (all one line so watch the
line wrap)
http://home.comcast.net/~charliebcz/CooperedDoors/CooperedDoors5.html
Things are a lot easier when all the parts
are rectangular. Nothing like some curves
and "simple" hinges to make things fun!
charlie b
After all, what kind of person would take that job?
Dave
"charlie b" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "As democracy is perfected, the office of president
> represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of
> the people. On some great and glorious day the plain
> folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at
> last and the White House will be adorned by a
> downright moron."
>
> H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)*
>
> Are we there yet?
>
> charlie b
TeamCasa responds:
>After all, what kind of person would take that job?
>
>Dave
>
>
>"charlie b" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> "As democracy is perfected, the office of president
>> represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of
>> the people. On some great and glorious day the plain
>> folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at
>> last and the White House will be adorned by a
>> downright moron."
>>
>> H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)*
>>
>> Are we there yet?
Yeah, well that's not as big a problem as figuring out what kind of person
would spend the treasure chest equivalent of a not-so-small country and work
his, or (and soon) her, ass off to get such a job, one that most of us would,
to be polite, shy away from.
It's a little bit like the humorist who claimed that he would refuse to belong
to any club that would accept him as a member.
My first lesson in what it does to people was when I got a look at Ike in,
IIRC, late '59, after seeing him on TV a few years earlier (b&w TV for the
early view may explain part of it, of course, as people look different in
person than they do even on color TV): he looked like hell, even though he was
smiling and cheerful sounding. Facial lines, worry lines, all sorts of sags in
the face. It may have been health, it may well have been lack of sleep, but it
was fairly obvious that the worry of the Presidency had worn him down as
nothing had before. Carter, in just four years, aged more than he has in the
succeeding 20. Even Clinton the carefree aged more than the eight years he was
in office.
The job is a killer and there are no real thanks in the century in which the
person filling the job lives.
I wouldn't care to work hard enough to get elected, never mind put myself
through all the minute-by-minute tensions of such a job.
Charlie Self
"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence
clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of
hobgoblins, all of them imaginary." H. L. Mencken
On 10 Nov 2004 18:27:08 GMT, [email protected] (Charlie Self)
wrote:
>
>The job is a killer and there are no real thanks in the century in which the
>person filling the job lives.
You've also noticed the aging ? The one exception
I can think of is Regan.
My bad. Not in the Constiution, but rather The Declaration of
Independence.
sourve: http://www.law.indiana.edu/uslawdocs/declaration.html
"The Declaration of Independence of the Thirteen Colonies
In CONGRESS, July 4, 1776
The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America,
When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people
to dissolve the political bands which have
connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the
earth, the separate and equal station to which the
Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the
opinions of mankind requires that they should
declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal,
that they are endowed by their Creator with certain
unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit
of Happiness. --That to secure these rights,
Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from
the consent of the governed,
******************** editor's note: here is a pretty radical idea
*********************
--That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these
ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to
abolish it,
and to
institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and
organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall
seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed,
will dictate that Governments long established
should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly
all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more
disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves
by abolishing the forms to which they are
accustomed.
******************** editor's note: more radical stuff *********
But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the
same Object evinces a design to
reduce them under absolute Despotism,
it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such
Government,
and to provide new
Guards for their future security. ?Such has been the patient sufferance
of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity
which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The
history of the present King of Great Britain [George
III] is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in
direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over
these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world. "
editor's note:
It is only a coincidence that the document references George III and is
not, in fact, referencing George 43 or is it
George 45?
charlie b
charlie b <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> "As democracy is perfected, the office of president
> represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of
> the people. On some great and glorious day the plain
> folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at
> last and the White House will be adorned by a
> downright moron."
>
> H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)*
>
> Are we there yet?
>
> charlie b
I don't know...were you elected?
And how are those knife hinges working out, Charlie?
Bob
"charlie b" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "As democracy is perfected, the office of president
> represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of
> the people. On some great and glorious day the plain
> folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at
> last and the White House will be adorned by a
> downright moron."
>
> H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)*
>
> Are we there yet?
>
> charlie b
"charlie b" wrote in message
> "As democracy is perfected, the office of president
> represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of
> the people. On some great and glorious day the plain
> folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at
> last and the White House will be adorned by a
> downright moron."
>
> H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)*
>
> Are we there yet?
Old H. L. would undoubtedly agree that he was never as much a subject of
his own quotations as when he stated: "the chronic human incapacity for
accurate self-analysis." ... and then proved his own point quite nicely.
IMO, there is no higher form of moronic behavior than that exhibited by the
losers in a democratic process when they attempt to label the winners as
same.
--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 11/06/04
charlie b wrote:
> http://home.comcast.net/~charliebcz/CooperedDoors/CooperedDoors5.html
>
> Things are a lot easier when all the parts are rectangular.
> Nothing like some curves and "simple" hinges to make things
> fun!
The curves turn a piece that would otherwise be Ok into one that
needs a bit of time to admire and appreciate.
Oops happens.
--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto, Iowa USA
charlie b <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
<snip of a bunch of radical notions>
"The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain
occasions, that I wish it to be always kept alive. It will often be
exercised when wrong, but better so than not to be exercised at
all. I like a little rebellion now and then. It is like a storm in the
atmosphere." --Thomas Jefferson to Abigail Adams, 1787.
Old Tom had a lot of things right. And healthy political discourse, even
when carried on in a woodworking forum, shouldn't be too radical a notion.
Long live freedom of thought and diversity of reasoned opinion. No one
side has a monopoly on intelligence or stupidity.
Patriarch
"Greg Millen" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<1100158509.WrIceQCIBZzIZjuC5DUH0g@teranews>...
> "Fletis Humplebacker" <!> wrote in message ...
> ...
> >
> >
> > Every one I saw was blank. But everything had a first time...
>
> You must read only OT threads, his replies to topical discussions are well
> worth reading and you will miss a lot. This is simply his way of commenting
> about OT threads, of which there are way too many.
<http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&q=author:!+>
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FF
charlie b <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>
> ...
> As for left wing/right wing ..., go back and
> read the Constitution again. Pay particular
> attention to the "it is the right and the duty"
> sentence. Them was some pretty radical
> dudes who wrote that document.
> ...
>
Could you be a little more specific? I'm not aware of a Constitution
that has a "it is the right and duty" sentence, though that doesn't mean
there isn't one.
--
FF
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (Fred the Red Shirt) wrote:
>charlie b <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:<[email protected]>...
>>
>> ...
>> As for left wing/right wing ..., go back and
>> read the Constitution again. Pay particular
>> attention to the "it is the right and the duty"
>> sentence. Them was some pretty radical
>> dudes who wrote that document.
>> ...
>Could you be a little more specific? I'm not aware of a Constitution
>that has a "it is the right and duty" sentence, though that doesn't mean
>there isn't one.
I believe he meant the Declaration of Independence, which reads in part
"when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same
Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their
right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new
Guards for their future security."
>
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In article <[email protected]>,
"Fletis Humplebacker" <!> wrote:
> "Unisaw A100"
>
>
>
>
>
> plonk
ROFL! I'll bet getting plonked for an empty reply to an OT thread has
gotta be pretty close to a first.
"charlie b" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "As democracy is perfected, the office of president
> represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of
> the people. On some great and glorious day the plain
> folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at
> last and the White House will be adorned by a
> downright moron."
We almost were.