This article is known as a 'little pot boiler', i.e. it was written to make
money.
I didn't see that one on the list though.
--
Alan
Retired
...so yes I do have all day!
"karmstrn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> According to this article:
> http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/content/view/16861/,
> it's easy to start a side woodworking business making deck furniture
> to earn a few extra bucks. Maybe they're right.
"karmstrn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> According to this article:
> http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/content/view/16861/,
> it's easy to start a side woodworking business making deck furniture
> to earn a few extra bucks. Maybe they're right.
Ummmmm! The Spam'n Eggs has a different smell this morning.
Robatoy wrote:
>
> Ahh yes. That wild-eyed desire to "Be My Own Boss".... "take all the
> time-off I want, sleep in when I want, rolling in the dough, buy what
> I want, go on long vacations, the chicks will all dig me, because,
> I'm, rich, Rich, RICH!!!
> HhahahHAHHYHYYAAA..*coughs*................*flat-lines the dream*
>
> Life is MUCH easier when on somebody's payroll.
>
> Is it as rewarding?
As long as you're going to work for a loon, it might as well be yourself.
On May 17, 9:42=A0am, "Alan Squires" <[email protected]> wrote:
> This article is known as a 'little pot boiler', i.e. it was written to ma=
ke
> money.
>
> I didn't see that one on the list though.
>
> --
> Alan
> Retired
> ...so yes I do have all day!"karmstrn" <[email protected]> wrote in =
message
>
> news:556c9a18-3dba-49e7-8e6f-5ef59a2971e5@v17g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
>
> > According to this article:
> >http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/content/view/16861/,
> > it's easy to start a side woodworking business making deck furniture
> > to earn a few extra bucks. Maybe they're right.
If articles written to make money are potboilers, then about 99% of
articles are potboilers. I've written maybe 2,000 articles, all to
make money. Some even did.
That one is probably written to please an editor who thinks "10 Ways
To..." or "10 Best ..." are fantastic headlines.
On May 17, 11:55=A0am, Gerald Ross <[email protected]> wrote:
> karmstrn wrote:
> > According to this article:http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/content/view/=
16861/,
> > it's easy to start a side woodworking business making deck furniture
> > to earn a few extra bucks. Maybe they're right.
>
> I like Garage Sale Management. What's to manage.
>
> --
> Gerald Ross
> Cochran, GA
>
> May the Farce be with you!
LOL. You gotta get all the unsold junk back inside in te right order
so it can come out and be unsold at the next garage sale.
These articles are in a league with those in women's magazines, "10
Best Ways to Hold On To Your Man," "10 Ways to Lose Weight," "10 Ways
to Clean House Effortlessly," and so on. Basically, mindless bullshit.
"Robatoy" wrote:
=================================
Ahh yes. That wild-eyed desire to "Be My Own Boss".... "take all the
time-off I want, sleep in when I want, rolling in the dough, buy what
I want, go on long vacations, the chicks will all dig me, because,
I'm, rich, Rich, RICH!!!
HhahahHAHHYHYYAAA..*coughs*................*flat-lines the dream*
==============================
Did you miss out on that part of the fantasy?
===================================
Life is MUCH easier when on somebody's payroll.
Is it as rewarding?
==============================
Ya, but it's not half as much fun.
Lew
On May 18, 8:35=A0am, "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:7b3d6cc2-4117-43ad-8be2-929a3f8be6e0@s28g2000vbp.googlegroups.com...
> On May 17, 11:55 am, Gerald Ross <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > karmstrn wrote:
> > > According to this
> > > article:http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/content/view/16861/,
> > > it'seasyto start a sidewoodworkingbusiness making deck furniture
> > > to earn a few extra bucks. Maybe they're right.
>
> > I like Garage Sale Management. What's to manage.
>
> > --
> > Gerald Ross
> > Cochran, GA
>
> > May the Farce be with you!
>
> LOL. You gotta get all the unsold junk back inside in te right order
> so it can come out and be unsold at the next garage sale.
>
> These articles are in a league with those in women's magazines, "10
> Best Ways to Hold On To Your Man," "10 Ways to Lose Weight," "10 Ways
> to Clean House Effortlessly," and so on. Basically, mindless bullshit.
>
> LOL =A0Probably a pretty darn good comparison you have made here Charlie!
So the article is probably just ill-informed fluff. I can believe that.
"Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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On May 17, 11:55 am, Gerald Ross <[email protected]> wrote:
> karmstrn wrote:
> > According to this
> > article:http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/content/view/16861/,
> > it's easy to start a side woodworking business making deck furniture
> > to earn a few extra bucks. Maybe they're right.
>
> I like Garage Sale Management. What's to manage.
>
> --
> Gerald Ross
> Cochran, GA
>
> May the Farce be with you!
LOL. You gotta get all the unsold junk back inside in te right order
so it can come out and be unsold at the next garage sale.
These articles are in a league with those in women's magazines, "10
Best Ways to Hold On To Your Man," "10 Ways to Lose Weight," "10 Ways
to Clean House Effortlessly," and so on. Basically, mindless bullshit.
LOL Probably a pretty darn good comparison you have made here Charlie!
karmstrn wrote:
> According to this article: http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/content/view/16861/,
> it's easy to start a side woodworking business making deck furniture
> to earn a few extra bucks. Maybe they're right.
I like Garage Sale Management. What's to manage.
--
Gerald Ross
Cochran, GA
May the Farce be with you!
> Uh, sure. It's easy, few tools are needed, and...
>
> I've got a friend who for years made lawn and deck furniture for
> people, sold it to a wide variety of businesses and locals, and made
> himself a whole 12-15 bucks an hour for working his ass off.
>
> It isn't easy, you have to have a decent shop, not three tools, you
> need space for lumber storage, you need a place to display your
> furniture...and so on. Bobby has a front lawn on one of the businest
> roads in town (fortunately, a small town), so had the display area as
> well as a 1,000 square foot fully equipped shop. He'd been a
> woodworker for about 30 years at that time, and he did it pretty close
> to exactly right. He made money. He didn't make much more than a
> supplement to has wages.
>
> As he was successful, more and more competition popped up. How many
> lawn/deck furniture makers can a small community support?
>
> As usual, easy is a pipe dream, but it can be done. Now, though, in
> the middle of a very deep recession, buyers might be harder to find.
> To continue the easy theme, that may mean advertising, which may
> enhance sales, but increases upfront costs considerably.
I will pile on with Charlie with some more considerations.
If you are talking about a cash-only retirement supplement, it might
be something to consider. If you are talking BUSINESS, you need to
think about things like taxes and insurance.
If you develop a taxable income stream, from self employment, your tax
bill might go up with self-employment taxes...about 14% of taxable
revenue on top of income taxes. Of course you might have good
writeoffs too.
Woodworkers are not necessarily the favorite folks for insurance
providers either. If you cannot demonstrate some near OSHA like
storage and process controls your premiums can go up. Every time my
home shop equipment comes up with my agent he says "Now this isn't
used for business is it?". Also consider what can happen if your lawn
equipment breaks under someone and they get hurt. Business liability
insurance? If you get successful and need to hire help ---Workmans
Comp.
Not trying to scare you off, just things to think about. I am self
employed as a consultant but I am also approaching retirement. I have
built some pretty classy (my words) rocking horses from contrasting
hardwoods that get a lot of favorable attention. Material cost is
about $200 and the internet suggests I could market them in the $400 -
500 range. With 60-70 hours of labor invested I can make a LOT MORE
money shoving hamburgers across a counter at McDonalds. As a
retirement supplement and labor of love, the horses are a good thing.
As a business, not so good. Retirement rocking horses would probably
be a cash-sale item.
RonB
On May 17, 11:30=A0am, "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "karmstrn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:556c9a18-3dba-49e7-8e6f-5ef59a2971e5@v17g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
>
> > According to this article:
> >http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/content/view/16861/,
> > it's easy to start a side woodworking business making deck furniture
> > to earn a few extra bucks. Maybe they're right.
>
> Ummmmm! =A0The Spam'n Eggs has a different smell this morning.
Ahh yes. That wild-eyed desire to "Be My Own Boss".... "take all the
time-off I want, sleep in when I want, rolling in the dough, buy what
I want, go on long vacations, the chicks will all dig me, because,
I'm, rich, Rich, RICH!!!
HhahahHAHHYHYYAAA..*coughs*................*flat-lines the dream*
Life is MUCH easier when on somebody's payroll.
Is it as rewarding?
On May 16, 11:54=A0pm, karmstrn <[email protected]> wrote:
> According to this article:http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/content/view/16=
861/,
> it's easy to start a side woodworking business making deck furniture
> to earn a few extra bucks. Maybe they're right.
Uh, sure. It's easy, few tools are needed, and...
I've got a friend who for years made lawn and deck furniture for
people, sold it to a wide variety of businesses and locals, and made
himself a whole 12-15 bucks an hour for working his ass off.
It isn't easy, you have to have a decent shop, not three tools, you
need space for lumber storage, you need a place to display your
furniture...and so on. Bobby has a front lawn on one of the businest
roads in town (fortunately, a small town), so had the display area as
well as a 1,000 square foot fully equipped shop. He'd been a
woodworker for about 30 years at that time, and he did it pretty close
to exactly right. He made money. He didn't make much more than a
supplement to has wages.
As he was successful, more and more competition popped up. How many
lawn/deck furniture makers can a small community support?
As usual, easy is a pipe dream, but it can be done. Now, though, in
the middle of a very deep recession, buyers might be harder to find.
To continue the easy theme, that may mean advertising, which may
enhance sales, but increases upfront costs considerably.
Charlie Self wrote:
> On May 16, 11:54 pm, karmstrn <[email protected]> wrote:
>> According to this
>> article:http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/content/view/16861/, it's
>> easy to start a side woodworking business making deck furniture
>> to earn a few extra bucks. Maybe they're right.
>
> Uh, sure. It's easy, few tools are needed, and...
>
> I've got a friend who for years made lawn and deck furniture for
> people, sold it to a wide variety of businesses and locals, and made
> himself a whole 12-15 bucks an hour for working his ass off.
>
> It isn't easy, you have to have a decent shop, not three tools, you
> need space for lumber storage, you need a place to display your
> furniture...and so on. Bobby has a front lawn on one of the businest
> roads in town (fortunately, a small town), so had the display area as
> well as a 1,000 square foot fully equipped shop. He'd been a
> woodworker for about 30 years at that time, and he did it pretty close
> to exactly right. He made money. He didn't make much more than a
> supplement to has wages.
>
> As he was successful, more and more competition popped up. How many
> lawn/deck furniture makers can a small community support?
>
> As usual, easy is a pipe dream, but it can be done. Now, though, in
> the middle of a very deep recession, buyers might be harder to find.
> To continue the easy theme, that may mean advertising, which may
> enhance sales, but increases upfront costs considerably.
Not only all that.
I had a co-worker who made trophies in his small workshop - you know,
bowling league, largest fish, local golf tournament stuff. Pretty
straightforward, a few blocks of nicely finished wood and commodity brass
ornaments.
He got a contract from Ward's to make 1,100 small trophies of "World's Best
Dad" for a Father's Day promotion. He finished the project, made a nice
profit, and got out of the trophy business.
"If I never see another f*ckin' trophy, it'll be too soon!"
"HeyBub" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Robatoy wrote:
>>
>> Ahh yes. That wild-eyed desire to "Be My Own Boss".... "take all the
>> time-off I want, sleep in when I want, rolling in the dough, buy what
>> I want, go on long vacations, the chicks will all dig me, because,
>> I'm, rich, Rich, RICH!!!
>> HhahahHAHHYHYYAAA..*coughs*................*flat-lines the dream*
>>
>> Life is MUCH easier when on somebody's payroll.
>>
>> Is it as rewarding?
>
> As long as you're going to work for a loon, it might as well be yourself.
I've done both with varying degrees of success. Working for yourself is
tougher than working for someone else. As for rewarding, that depends. If
you mean working on the assembly line putting knobs on the toaster as it
goes by, I doubt it very much. Being in a position with responsibility can
have many rewards. I have my dream job and actually enjoy going to work.
HeyBub wrote:
> Charlie Self wrote:
[snip]
>> enhance sales, but increases upfront costs considerably.
>
> Not only all that.
>
> I had a co-worker who made trophies in his small workshop - you know,
> bowling league, largest fish, local golf tournament stuff. Pretty
> straightforward, a few blocks of nicely finished wood and commodity brass
> ornaments.
>
> He got a contract from Ward's to make 1,100 small trophies of "World's Best
> Dad" for a Father's Day promotion. He finished the project, made a nice
> profit, and got out of the trophy business.
>
> "If I never see another f*ckin' trophy, it'll be too soon!"
>
>
A lady in town lost several (four) of her family to cancer and car
accident last year. She asked if I would build a mamorial bench for
each of them, complete with plaque. I built the Japanese style bench
that was on the front page of FWW last year. By the time I finished the
first, I knew how to do it. By the time the last coat of finish was put
on the last, my mantra was similar to your co-workers.
They do look pretty good. I'll put some photos on ABPW bye and bye.
mahalo,
jo4hn