looking for some insight.....
I am building some boxes for xmas gifts -- these variety will be routed out
of a single block of wood. I created templates out of some 1/4" ply scrap
and proceeded to grab my template guides
(http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.asp?page=47249&category=1,43000&ccurrenc
y=2&SID=) . My plan was to use a 1/2" router bit in multiple steps to
hollow out the box. When I found the right template I found that it was
5/16" tall -- not an option when working with 1/4" ply wood. Then I checked
the rest of the template guides and noted their heights. I found myself
wondering if I was missing something -- there seems to be a method to the
maddness in terms of guide height and diameter, but a few of them do not
make sense -- why is the 1" outside diameter guide is 3/8" tall when the
51/64" guide is 9/16" tall........
Are there specific uses for each of these guides that would demand a
specific height ? Any thoughts on whether it would be unwise to modify the
template -- a belt sander comes to mind -- to a height that would make sense
in my application ? I could remake the ply templates, but I have a bunch of
the 1/4" scrap that is perfect of this use
Cheers
I bought the woodcraft set today and guess what - with one of the
bushings, one of the lock nuts can be gently pushed all the way in -
no turning on the thread! Obviously the diameter of this errant
bushing is less than what it ought to be. Wonder what the quality
control at woodcraft is all about. Shudder to think what would happen
to me while routing with such a set...I will probably return it and
spend a bit more money on a better set elsewhere.
Coming to think of it, I bought a whole bunch of router bits at
Woodcraft last week at their 50% off sale. I am shuddering now...
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"Rob V" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> I think woodcraft has exactly what you are looking for right now and on sale
> at 50% off.
>
> 10 pc set for 15 bux.
>
> "Sam the Cat" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > looking for some insight.....
On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 20:08:39 -0500, "Sam the Cat"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>looking for some insight.....
>
>I am building some boxes for xmas gifts -- these variety will be routed out
>of a single block of wood. I created templates out of some 1/4" ply scrap
>and proceeded to grab my template guides
>(http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.asp?page=47249&category=1,43000&ccurrenc
>y=2&SID=) . My plan was to use a 1/2" router bit in multiple steps to
>hollow out the box. When I found the right template I found that it was
>5/16" tall -- not an option when working with 1/4" ply wood. Then I checked
>the rest of the template guides and noted their heights. I found myself
>wondering if I was missing something -- there seems to be a method to the
>maddness in terms of guide height and diameter, but a few of them do not
>make sense -- why is the 1" outside diameter guide is 3/8" tall when the
>51/64" guide is 9/16" tall........
>
>Are there specific uses for each of these guides that would demand a
>specific height ? Any thoughts on whether it would be unwise to modify the
>template -- a belt sander comes to mind -- to a height that would make sense
>in my application ? I could remake the ply templates, but I have a bunch of
>the 1/4" scrap that is perfect of this use
>
>Cheers
>
>
>
I have what is probably the same set from a different vendor. I've
noticed the same thing. I modified mine for use with 1/4" template
stock and never regretted it. if for some reason I someday need them
to be longer I'll get another set.
I think woodcraft has exactly what you are looking for right now and on sale
at 50% off.
10 pc set for 15 bux.
"Sam the Cat" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> looking for some insight.....
>
> I am building some boxes for xmas gifts -- these variety will be routed
> out
> of a single block of wood. I created templates out of some 1/4" ply scrap
> and proceeded to grab my template guides
> (http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.asp?page=47249&category=1,43000&ccurrenc
> y=2&SID=) . My plan was to use a 1/2" router bit in multiple steps to
> hollow out the box. When I found the right template I found that it was
> 5/16" tall -- not an option when working with 1/4" ply wood. Then I
> checked
> the rest of the template guides and noted their heights. I found myself
> wondering if I was missing something -- there seems to be a method to the
> maddness in terms of guide height and diameter, but a few of them do not
> make sense -- why is the 1" outside diameter guide is 3/8" tall when the
> 51/64" guide is 9/16" tall........
>
> Are there specific uses for each of these guides that would demand a
> specific height ? Any thoughts on whether it would be unwise to modify
> the
> template -- a belt sander comes to mind -- to a height that would make
> sense
> in my application ? I could remake the ply templates, but I have a bunch
> of
> the 1/4" scrap that is perfect of this use
>
> Cheers
>
>
>
>
Sam the Cat wrote:
> looking for some insight.....
>
> I am building some boxes for xmas gifts -- these variety will be routed out
> of a single block of wood. I created templates out of some 1/4" ply scrap
> and proceeded to grab my template guides
> (http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.asp?page=47249&category=1,43000&ccurrenc
> y=2&SID=) . My plan was to use a 1/2" router bit in multiple steps to
> hollow out the box. When I found the right template I found that it was
> 5/16" tall -- not an option when working with 1/4" ply wood. Then I checked
> the rest of the template guides and noted their heights. I found myself
> wondering if I was missing something -- there seems to be a method to the
> maddness in terms of guide height and diameter, but a few of them do not
> make sense -- why is the 1" outside diameter guide is 3/8" tall when the
> 51/64" guide is 9/16" tall........
>
> Are there specific uses for each of these guides that would demand a
> specific height ? Any thoughts on whether it would be unwise to modify the
> template -- a belt sander comes to mind -- to a height that would make sense
> in my application ? I could remake the ply templates, but I have a bunch of
> the 1/4" scrap that is perfect of this use
>
> Cheers
I use a lot of 1/4 for templets also. I found some at Pricecutter with
.234" berrels. They are $29.99 for a set of 10.
http://www.pricecutter.com/html/catalog/productGroup.asp/48539
Jody
Many thanks for the Link -- Just what I need
Cheers
"Jody" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Sam the Cat wrote:
> > looking for some insight.....
> >
> > I am building some boxes for xmas gifts -- these variety will be routed
out
> > of a single block of wood. I created templates out of some 1/4" ply
scrap
> > and proceeded to grab my template guides
> >
(http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.asp?page=47249&category=1,43000&ccurrenc
> > y=2&SID=) . My plan was to use a 1/2" router bit in multiple steps to
> > hollow out the box. When I found the right template I found that it was
> > 5/16" tall -- not an option when working with 1/4" ply wood. Then I
checked
> > the rest of the template guides and noted their heights. I found myself
> > wondering if I was missing something -- there seems to be a method to
the
> > maddness in terms of guide height and diameter, but a few of them do not
> > make sense -- why is the 1" outside diameter guide is 3/8" tall when the
> > 51/64" guide is 9/16" tall........
> >
> > Are there specific uses for each of these guides that would demand a
> > specific height ? Any thoughts on whether it would be unwise to modify
the
> > template -- a belt sander comes to mind -- to a height that would make
sense
> > in my application ? I could remake the ply templates, but I have a
bunch of
> > the 1/4" scrap that is perfect of this use
> >
> > Cheers
>
> I use a lot of 1/4 for templets also. I found some at Pricecutter with
> .234" berrels. They are $29.99 for a set of 10.
> http://www.pricecutter.com/html/catalog/productGroup.asp/48539
On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 18:48:07 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
>On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 20:08:39 -0500, "Sam the Cat"
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>looking for some insight.....
>>
>>I am building some boxes for xmas gifts -- these variety will be routed out
>>of a single block of wood. I created templates out of some 1/4" ply scrap
>>and proceeded to grab my template guides
>>(http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.asp?page=47249&category=1,43000&ccurrenc
>>y=2&SID=) . My plan was to use a 1/2" router bit in multiple steps to
>>hollow out the box. When I found the right template I found that it was
>>5/16" tall -- not an option when working with 1/4" ply wood. Then I checked
>>the rest of the template guides and noted their heights. I found myself
>>wondering if I was missing something -- there seems to be a method to the
>>maddness in terms of guide height and diameter, but a few of them do not
>>make sense -- why is the 1" outside diameter guide is 3/8" tall when the
>>51/64" guide is 9/16" tall........
>>
>>Are there specific uses for each of these guides that would demand a
>>specific height ? Any thoughts on whether it would be unwise to modify the
>>template -- a belt sander comes to mind -- to a height that would make sense
>>in my application ? I could remake the ply templates, but I have a bunch of
>>the 1/4" scrap that is perfect of this use
>>
>>Cheers
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>I have what is probably the same set from a different vendor. I've
>noticed the same thing. I modified mine for use with 1/4" template
>stock and never regretted it. if for some reason I someday need them
>to be longer I'll get another set.
Did the samw thing - that's why god invented hack saws! Just cut the
thing down to size.
"Sam the Cat" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> in my application ? I could remake the ply templates, but I have a bunch
of
> the 1/4" scrap that is perfect of this use
I'm with Bridger. Cut it off!
I once built a template out of 3/4" MDF to allow me to use one of my
template guides. Then I realized it was ludicrous to give up a full 1/2" of
depth because of a long sleeve on a template guide, so I cut it off with a
hack saw and used a mill file to clean up the cut. I never regretted it. I
read somewhere (a book on routers I think) that its a never ending quest to
find the right template guide to do the job and the long sleeves cannot be
justified. I cannot fathom any need for using material thicker than 1/4" to
make a router template and I think they all should have sleeves cut to work
with it.
By the way, the only difficulty I have with the short length is that its
hard to tighten the guide. I found that I could use a small strip of fine
sandpaper to get a better grip on the guide. I think the guides would
benefit from some kind of specialized spanner wrench to make it easy to
tighten them.
Bob