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04/05/2005 10:44 PM

A Borg story with a happy ending.

To appreciate this, you have to know that I'm a smallish remodelling
contractor, a decent enough carpenter and an un-accomplished
woodworker. You also have to know that, like many here, I avoid
BORG's -- particularly Home Depot.

To the story: Had a bunch of tools -- including my Paslode
framing nailer - stolen from my garage. Went to Rona (a Canadian
BORG competitive with Home Depot, to get a replacement. $420.

They had a Porter Cable package on sale -- $499 for a twin tank
compressor and a PC framing nailer. Bought it.

Get home -- no nailer, just the compressor and hose in the carton.
Phone Rona -- talk to the guys in tools. They say we don't have that
particular nailer, but we have a slightly better one .. bring your
bill in and pick it up. Sorry about the inconvenience.

Get the nailer. Stick it in my garage along with the compressor.
Sits there for three weeks until I need it for a job. Think I'd
better set it up and make sure it works. Yup works fine. Load it
into the van. Load all the other tools I'll need. Get the PC
carton out to the street in time for garbage pick up.

Next day, remember a drop cloth --- there's one over in the corner
under a busted lamp. Move the lamp, pick up the drop cloth, and lo
and behold, my "stolen" Paslode framing nailer.

My wife gives me one of those ---Ah, ha! Uh, huh! looks.
Packaging is gone, tools have been used ... son of a gun.

Phone Rona ... talk to the guys in tools. They say bring the PC
compressor and nailer back for a full refund.

Maybe it helps that I know the guys in Tools, maybe it helps that I
have an account. But my guess is that they would have done it for
anyone, maybe not as quickly and cheerfully, but they would have done
it.

I don't like BORG's ... I don't like the "dumbing down" of staff ...
I don't like the declines in quality of tools and materials .... but
Rona ... or at least the one on MacLeod Trail in Calgary ... still
values it's customers.

For what it's worth, your mileage may vary.

Ken









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MF

"Mr Fixit eh"

in reply to [email protected] on 04/05/2005 10:44 PM

05/05/2005 8:38 AM

And the rest of us pay more for our purchases at Rona. That story goes
well beyond good customer service and ventures into the twilight zone.

Steve

gg

"gary"

in reply to [email protected] on 04/05/2005 10:44 PM

05/05/2005 10:48 AM


<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> To appreciate this, you have to know that I'm a smallish remodelling
> contractor, a decent enough carpenter and an un-accomplished
> woodworker. You also have to know that, like many here, I avoid
> BORG's -- particularly Home Depot.
>
> To the story: Had a bunch of tools -- including my Paslode
> framing nailer - stolen from my garage. Went to Rona (a Canadian
> BORG competitive with Home Depot, to get a replacement. $420.
>
> They had a Porter Cable package on sale -- $499 for a twin tank
> compressor and a PC framing nailer. Bought it.
>
> Get home -- no nailer, just the compressor and hose in the carton.
> Phone Rona -- talk to the guys in tools. They say we don't have that
> particular nailer, but we have a slightly better one .. bring your
> bill in and pick it up. Sorry about the inconvenience.
>
> Get the nailer. Stick it in my garage along with the compressor.
> Sits there for three weeks until I need it for a job. Think I'd
> better set it up and make sure it works. Yup works fine. Load it
> into the van. Load all the other tools I'll need. Get the PC
> carton out to the street in time for garbage pick up.
>
> Next day, remember a drop cloth --- there's one over in the corner
> under a busted lamp. Move the lamp, pick up the drop cloth, and lo
> and behold, my "stolen" Paslode framing nailer.
>
> My wife gives me one of those ---Ah, ha! Uh, huh! looks.
> Packaging is gone, tools have been used ... son of a gun.
>
> Phone Rona ... talk to the guys in tools. They say bring the PC
> compressor and nailer back for a full refund.
>
> Maybe it helps that I know the guys in Tools, maybe it helps that I
> have an account. But my guess is that they would have done it for
> anyone, maybe not as quickly and cheerfully, but they would have done
> it.
>
> I don't like BORG's ... I don't like the "dumbing down" of staff ...
> I don't like the declines in quality of tools and materials .... but
> Rona ... or at least the one on MacLeod Trail in Calgary ... still
> values it's customers.
>
> For what it's worth, your mileage may vary.
>
> Ken
>
I wouldn't have had the audacity to ask for a full refund after personally
destroying Rona's ability to sell the nailer as new. I guess it helps to
personally know employees who are willing to give you "sweetheart" deals.
With overhead like that, no wonder we have "declines in tools and
materials..."

SS

"Sweet Sawdust"

in reply to [email protected] on 04/05/2005 10:44 PM

06/05/2005 8:08 AM


> >
> I wouldn't have had the audacity to ask for a full refund after personally
> destroying Rona's ability to sell the nailer as new. I guess it helps to
> personally know employees who are willing to give you "sweetheart" deals.
> With overhead like that, no wonder we have "declines in tools and
> materials..."
>
>
I disagree. The company got back a nailer in excellent condition that can
be marked down and put on the bargain table, at a small loss or maybe break
even price. Someone goes in and buys it and posts a gloat either here or
to his neighbors, more people go in to see if they can get a bargain and buy
other items at full markup. End results, you have two happy customers who
advertise how good you are to deal with, more customers in the store, a good
reputation and you have a write off on taxes. Sounds like mighty cheap,
high quality advertising to me.

Rd

Robatoy

in reply to [email protected] on 04/05/2005 10:44 PM

04/05/2005 11:59 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] wrote:

> I don't like BORG's ... I don't like the "dumbing down" of staff ...
> I don't like the declines in quality of tools and materials .... but
> Rona ... or at least the one on MacLeod Trail in Calgary ... still
> values it's customers.
>
> For what it's worth, your mileage may vary.
>
> Ken

I don't like the big ones either, Ken...but one of my favourite hardware
stores is a Rona in Point Edward, Ontario. It's called Wilson Plumbing.
Great bunch of guys...and they have the most eclectic collection of
stuff you have ever seen. I needed some large Soss hinges to hang a
full-size door...... they had them. Ya could have knocked me over with a
feather.

b

in reply to [email protected] on 04/05/2005 10:44 PM

05/05/2005 4:00 PM

On Thu, 05 May 2005 10:48:07 GMT, "gary" <[email protected]>
wrote:


>I wouldn't have had the audacity to ask for a full refund after personally
>destroying Rona's ability to sell the nailer as new. I guess it helps to
>personally know employees who are willing to give you "sweetheart" deals.
>With overhead like that, no wonder we have "declines in tools and
>materials..."

Thanks for stopping by.

Ken

b

in reply to [email protected] on 04/05/2005 10:44 PM

06/05/2005 6:11 PM

On Fri, 6 May 2005 08:08:55 -0500, "Sweet Sawdust"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>. Sounds like mighty cheap,
>high quality advertising to me.
>

<Grin> It sure is. And it works.

I'm just finalizing my books from last year.
I noted that for every dollar I spent at all the other BORG s
combined, I spent close to $80 at the Rona on MacLeod Trail in
Calgary (shamless plug).

For those who have trouble with reading comprehension, I did not
build a house using the PC compressor and nailer; I fired three test
nails. And I told the absolute truth about why I wanted to return it.
I found the nailer I thought had been stolen ...

Rona ACCOMODATED me because I am a good customer. And I am a good
customer because Rona ACCOMODATES me. The same as I
ACCOMODATE Rona by not bitching whenever they make a mistake.
(Remember the nailer wasn't even in the carton it was supposed to be
in. They told they had three others returned -- no nailer in the
kit.) Stuff happens. To them. To me.

Ken

Ken


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