Mitered Half-Laps

On Sat, 27 Mar 2010 12:35:49 -0700, the infamous "Lew Hodgett"
<[email protected]> scrawled the following:

>
>"GarageWoodworks" wrote:
>
>> Just put this together:
>>
>> http://www.garagewoodworks.com/video.php
>>
>> Comments welcomed.
>---------------------------------------------
>Very clever; however, the Jeopardy Show might voice an objection
>unless you are willing to pay for the right to use their material.
>
>"Sneaking up on it" doesn't do much for me.
>
>Isn't "Tooling" is supposed to eliminate the need to sneak up on it?

My thoughts exactly. I'd have mounted the board in a jig and used a
much larger bit with guide to take it at the line, then quickly pare
off the rest of the field in 1/10th the time and effort. <shrug>

A tenon jig would have been a whole lot quicker, too, including
building the 45-degree tenoning jig. ;)

--
"Not always right, but never uncertain." --Heinlein
-=-=-

On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 00:07:19 -0700, the infamous "LDosser"
<[email protected]> scrawled the following:

>"Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> Where? The only one I saw was where he was talking in front of it. I
>> didn't see one dance. URL?
>
>Videos 1 and 5:
>
>http://www.jack-bench.com/workbench%20plans%20-%20workbench%20videos.htm

Yeah, I found them right after writing that. Actuation is a bit on
the bumpy side, but it works as advertised, alright.

Kudos, Charlie.

--
It is not the strongest of the species that survives, nor the most intelligent,
but the one most responsive to change.
-- Charles Darwin

In article <[email protected]>,
<"[email protected]"> wrote:

> On Sun, 28 Mar 2010 06:44:58 -0700 (PDT), GarageWoodworks
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >On Mar 27, 3:43 am, GarageWoodworks <[email protected]>
> >wrote:
> >> Just put this together:
> >>
> >> http://www.garagewoodworks.com/video.php
> >>
> >> Comments welcomed.
> >
> >Thanks to all that checked out the video! Like I said at the end,
> >there are a half-dozen other ways to do this, but this is my
> >preferred.
> >I sincerely appreciate your feedback.
> >--with the exception of one mean dude. :^(
>
> I really like your videos and have learned a lot from them (and will review
> them as needed ;). I too was disappointed in the "sneak up on" advice. That's
> the part that always bites me. The jig is a fantastic idea (a hint on how to
> make them would be nice) and I'll steal that part, however I'll do my best to
> figure out a way around the "sneak up on" part.
>
> IS there a reason you used such a small router bit? It would seem like a 1/2"
> bit in a 3/4" bushing, or some such, would be easier and give a known "sneak
> up" factor.

Those are the same questions I have. Why sneak up rather than make the
line the first cut?

And the small bit had me pondering too.

The jigs are great, but I don't really get the rest of the technique.
It seems to me with a bit more thought they could be modified to
eliminate the sneaking...

In article
<7f6d7908-b26e-43f0-9675-a4927de65e44@u22g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>,
GarageWoodworks <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Mar 28, 1:34 pm, Dave Balderstone
> <dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> wrote:
> > In article <[email protected]>,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > <"[email protected]"> wrote:
> > > On Sun, 28 Mar 2010 06:44:58 -0700 (PDT), GarageWoodworks
> > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > >On Mar 27, 3:43 am, GarageWoodworks <[email protected]>
> > > >wrote:
> > > >> Just put this together:
> >
> > > >>http://www.garagewoodworks.com/video.php
> >
> > > >> Comments welcomed.
> >
> > > >Thanks to all that checked out the video!  Like I said at the end,
> > > >there are a half-dozen other ways to do this, but this is my
> > > >preferred.
> > > >I sincerely appreciate your feedback.
> > > >--with the exception of one mean dude.  :^(
> >
> > > I really like your videos and have learned a lot from them (and will
> > > review
> > > them as needed ;).  I too was disappointed in the "sneak up on" advice.
> > > That's
> > > the part that always bites me.  The jig is a fantastic idea (a hint on
> > > how to
> > > make them would be nice) and I'll steal that part, however I'll do my
> > > best to
> > > figure out a way around the "sneak up on" part.  
> >
> > > IS there a reason you used such a small router bit?  It would seem like a
> > > 1/2"
> > > bit in a 3/4" bushing, or some such, would be easier and give a known
> > > "sneak
> > > up" factor.
> >
> > Those are the same questions I have. Why sneak up rather than make the
> > line the first cut?
> >
> > And the small bit had me pondering too.
> >
> > The jigs are great, but I don't really get the rest of the technique.
> > It seems to me with a bit more thought they could be modified to
> > eliminate the sneaking.
>
> I don't own the appropriate guide bushing. Would love to hear any
> suggestions regarding the sneaking up other than "use an indexing
> pin". Where would you put an indexing pin?

I'd be tempted to add a hold-down clamp to the jig, align the piece to
cut to your line (so the size of the bushing becomes irrelevant), clamp
it in place, and go from there.

On Mar 28, 8:44=A0am, GarageWoodworks <[email protected]>
wrote:
> On Mar 27, 3:43=A0am, GarageWoodworks <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > Just put this together:
>
> >http://www.garagewoodworks.com/video.php
>
> > Comments welcomed.
>
> Thanks to all that checked out the video! =A0Like I said at the end,
> there are a half-dozen other ways to do this, but this is my
> preferred.
> I sincerely appreciate your feedback.
> --with the exception of one mean dude. =A0:^(

HI Brian,

Thanks for the posting. You have a great website. Are your videos on
you tube?

Charlie

"GarageWoodworks" wrote:

> Just put this together:
>
> http://www.garagewoodworks.com/video.php
>
> Comments welcomed.
---------------------------------------------
Very clever; however, the Jeopardy Show might voice an objection
unless you are willing to pay for the right to use their material.

"Sneaking up on it" doesn't do much for me.

Isn't "Tooling" is supposed to eliminate the need to sneak up on it?

Lew

"GarageWoodworks" wrote:

> Are you serious?
---------------------------------
Unfortunately, I'm very serious.
----------------------------------
>You obviously have a better way to do it so I suggest you do it your
way.
----------------------------------------
You asked for comments, I made one.

It definitely was not made under the "vicous personal attack"
category.

Not sure it be any better, but a couple of sleds (miter & std) with
suitable stops would be easier, IMHO.

Lew

On Mar 27, 11:03=A0pm, "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "GarageWoodworks" wrote:
> > Are you serious?
>
> ---------------------------------
> Unfortunately, I'm very serious.
> ---------------------------------->You obviously have a better way to do =
it so I suggest you do it your
>
> way.
> ----------------------------------------
> You asked for comments, I made one.

A combination of a condescending question and snide comment. Nothing
constructive.

>
> It definitely was not made under the "vicous personal attack"
> category.
>

I wouldn't call it personal but attack fits.

> Not sure it be any better, but a couple of sleds (miter & std) with
> suitable stops would be easier, IMHO.
>
> Lew

Sounds interesting, but I'm having trouble following you. Do you have
a video camera? I'd love to see this.

Or. How about a few pictures the old fashioned way.

On Mar 30, 5:42=A0pm, "jack-bench.com" <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Mar 28, 8:44=A0am, GarageWoodworks <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > On Mar 27, 3:43=A0am, GarageWoodworks <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
>
> > > Just put this together:
>
> > >http://www.garagewoodworks.com/video.php
>
> > > Comments welcomed.
>
> > Thanks to all that checked out the video! =A0Like I said at the end,
> > there are a half-dozen other ways to do this, but this is my
> > preferred.
> > I sincerely appreciate your feedback.
> > --with the exception of one mean dude. =A0:^(
>
> HI Brian,
>
> Thanks for the posting. =A0You have a great website. =A0Are your videos o=
n
> you tube?
>
> Charlie

My Youtube channel is here:
http://www.youtube.com/user/GarageWoodworks

On Mar 28, 3:25=A0pm, Dave Balderstone
<dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> wrote:
> In article
> <7f6d7908-b26e-43f0-9675-a4927de65...@u22g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>,
>
>
>
>
>
> GarageWoodworks <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Mar 28, 1:34=A0pm, Dave Balderstone
> > <dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> wrote:
> > > In article <[email protected]>,
>
> > > <"[email protected]"> wrote:
> > > > On Sun, 28 Mar 2010 06:44:58 -0700 (PDT), GarageWoodworks
> > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > >On Mar 27, 3:43=A0am, GarageWoodworks <[email protected]=
>
> > > > >wrote:
> > > > >> Just put this together:
>
> > > > >>http://www.garagewoodworks.com/video.php
>
> > > > >> Comments welcomed.
>
> > > > >Thanks to all that checked out the video! =A0Like I said at the en=
d,
> > > > >there are a half-dozen other ways to do this, but this is my
> > > > >preferred.
> > > > >I sincerely appreciate your feedback.
> > > > >--with the exception of one mean dude. =A0:^(
>
> > > > I really like your videos and have learned a lot from them (and wil=
l
> > > > review
> > > > them as needed ;). =A0I too was disappointed in the "sneak up on" a=
dvice.
> > > > That's
> > > > the part that always bites me. =A0The jig is a fantastic idea (a hi=
nt on
> > > > how to
> > > > make them would be nice) and I'll steal that part, however I'll do =
my
> > > > best to
> > > > figure out a way around the "sneak up on" part. =A0
>
> > > > IS there a reason you used such a small router bit? =A0It would see=
m like a
> > > > 1/2"
> > > > bit in a 3/4" bushing, or some such, would be easier and give a kno=
wn
> > > > "sneak
> > > > up" factor.
>
> > > Those are the same questions I have. Why sneak up rather than make th=
e
> > > line the first cut?
>
> > > And the small bit had me pondering too.
>
> > > The jigs are great, but I don't really get the rest of the technique.
> > > It seems to me with a bit more thought they could be modified to
> > > eliminate the sneaking.
>
> > I don't own the appropriate guide bushing. =A0Would love to hear any
> > suggestions regarding the sneaking up other than "use an indexing
> > pin". =A0 Where would you put an indexing pin?
>
> I'd be tempted to add a hold-down clamp to the jig, align the piece to
> cut to your line (so the size of the bushing becomes irrelevant), clamp
> it in place, and go from there.

That would certaintly make things easier. You'd have to add a clamp
at either end of the jig (remember I used both sides). Thanks for the
tip.

On Mar 30, 6:42=A0pm, "jack-bench.com" <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Mar 28, 8:44=A0am, GarageWoodworks <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > On Mar 27, 3:43=A0am, GarageWoodworks <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
>
> > > Just put this together:
>
> > >http://www.garagewoodworks.com/video.php
>
> > > Comments welcomed.
>
> > Thanks to all that checked out the video! =A0Like I said at the end,
> > there are a half-dozen other ways to do this, but this is my
> > preferred.
> > I sincerely appreciate your feedback.
> > --with the exception of one mean dude. =A0:^(
>
> HI Brian,
>
> Thanks for the posting. =A0You have a great website. =A0Are your videos o=
n
> you tube?
>
> Charlie

Thanks Charlie! Yes, aside from being on my webpage they are also on
Youtube. I have a Youtube channel.

On Mar 27, 3:43=A0am, GarageWoodworks <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Just put this together:
>
> http://www.garagewoodworks.com/video.php
>
> Comments welcomed.

Nice video and funny music. My wife laughed her ass off. I think that
it's real nice of you to show videos of things you do to guys that
have a little to moderate experience so that they can add this to
their "I can do list". I personally like splined miters but I didn't
do a video to show how. Good on you I say.

Russ P.

On Mar 28, 1:34=A0pm, Dave Balderstone
<dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
>
>
>
>
>
> <"[email protected]"> wrote:
> > On Sun, 28 Mar 2010 06:44:58 -0700 (PDT), GarageWoodworks
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > >On Mar 27, 3:43=A0am, GarageWoodworks <[email protected]>
> > >wrote:
> > >> Just put this together:
>
> > >>http://www.garagewoodworks.com/video.php
>
> > >> Comments welcomed.
>
> > >Thanks to all that checked out the video! =A0Like I said at the end,
> > >there are a half-dozen other ways to do this, but this is my
> > >preferred.
> > >I sincerely appreciate your feedback.
> > >--with the exception of one mean dude. =A0:^(
>
> > I really like your videos and have learned a lot from them (and will re=
view
> > them as needed ;). =A0I too was disappointed in the "sneak up on" advic=
e. That's
> > the part that always bites me. =A0The jig is a fantastic idea (a hint o=
n how to
> > make them would be nice) and I'll steal that part, however I'll do my b=
est to
> > figure out a way around the "sneak up on" part. =A0
>
> > IS there a reason you used such a small router bit? =A0It would seem li=
ke a 1/2"
> > bit in a 3/4" bushing, or some such, would be easier and give a known "=
sneak
> > up" factor.
>
> Those are the same questions I have. Why sneak up rather than make the
> line the first cut?
>
> And the small bit had me pondering too.
>
> The jigs are great, but I don't really get the rest of the technique.
> It seems to me with a bit more thought they could be modified to
> eliminate the sneaking.

I don't own the appropriate guide bushing. Would love to hear any
suggestions regarding the sneaking up other than "use an indexing
pin". Where would you put an indexing pin?

"-MIKE-" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 3/29/10 4:48 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> How weak? You put words in my mouth and then call me weak when I call
>> you on it?
>>
>
> Hardly. You were in retreat mode because you knew it was bs.
>
>
>> People have been asked to leave the park, people have been given legal
>> notice to cease and desist. It does not make for a pleasant day. Those
>> that have done it commercially have been taken to court.
>
> Show me one documented case or one newspaper article about someone getting
> kicked out of Disney for wearing a homemade Disney character shirt and
> I'll apologize.
>
> Until then, I call your following statements BS:
> "Disney is one of the toughest. If grandma make a
> Mickey image on baby's bib, don't go to Disney World wearing it."
> "People have been asked to leave the park,"
>
> Your words, I didn't put anything "in your mouth."

My TRUE words. I don't give a crap what you think, I'm not going back a
couple of years to do the research . It was published publicly in a couple
of newspapers. Oh, it has come up in the Disney stores in the mall also.

But I will offer you this from Disney Corporate. Authorization of
vigilantes.

http://corporate.disney.go.com/corporate/conduct_standards18.html
Cast Members and employees should assist the Company in protecting its
copyrights, patents and trademarks.
The Company has an extensive and valuable collection of copyrights, patents
and trademarks. Substantial effort and money is expended to protect this
valuable property from infringement. Any Cast Member or employee who knows
or suspects that someone has infringed a copyright, patent or a trademark of
the Company should advise the Corporate Legal Department.

"-MIKE-" <[email protected]> wrote
>>
>> I've heard many horror stores of companies going after anyone infringing
>> upon their copyrights. Disney is one of the toughest. If grandma make a
>> Mickey image on baby's bib, don't go to Disney World wearing it.
>
> Bullshit.

My wife does machine embroidery and has a collection of thousands of
characters. She is also up on the latest problems with copyright
infringement and knows all the stories, especially of Disney. They have
been verified. I don't really give a crap what you believe, but there have
even been court cases where anything commercial was involved.

You may even be unaware of the Sonny Bono Copyright Term Extension Act but
that does not mean it does not exist either. Steamboat Willy lives. Check
the 1999 Eric Eldred filings that have been struck down. The Disney Empire
depends on intellectual property and they defend it vigorously.

"-MIKE-" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 3/28/10 10:24 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>
>> "-MIKE-" <[email protected]> wrote
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've heard many horror stores of companies going after anyone
>>>>>> infringing
>>>>>> upon their copyrights. Disney is one of the toughest. If grandma
>>>>>> make a
>>>>>> Mickey image on baby's bib, don't go to Disney World wearing it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bullshit.
>>>>
>>>> My wife does machine embroidery and has a collection of thousands of
>>>> characters. She is also up on the latest problems with copyright
>>>> infringement and knows all the stories, especially of Disney. They have
>>>> been verified. I don't really give a crap what you believe, but there
>>>> have even been court cases where anything commercial was involved.
>>>>
>>
>>>
>>> Show me one documented case of Disney grabbing some baby's bib and
>>> confiscating it and I'll apologize. Until then, I stand by my first
>>> assessment of the grandma baby bib "horror story" as bullshit. :-)
>>
>> First, you show me where I said it was confiscated. I left everything I
>> posted so you can re-read it. I'll wait.
>
> Oh, please. How weak.
>
> Ok, then, *you* tell me what will happen to Grandma or the parents or the
> baby.
> *Something* must happen. After all, you've heard "horror stories."
>
> I left everything you posted so you can re-read it. I'll wait.
>
>
> --
>
> -MIKE-
>

How weak? You put words in my mouth and then call me weak when I call you
on it?

People have been asked to leave the park, people have been given legal
notice to cease and desist. It does not make for a pleasant day. Those
that have done it commercially have been taken to court.

"-MIKE-" <[email protected]> wrote
>>>>
>>>> I've heard many horror stores of companies going after anyone
>>>> infringing
>>>> upon their copyrights. Disney is one of the toughest. If grandma make a
>>>> Mickey image on baby's bib, don't go to Disney World wearing it.
>>>
>>> Bullshit.
>>
>> My wife does machine embroidery and has a collection of thousands of
>> characters. She is also up on the latest problems with copyright
>> infringement and knows all the stories, especially of Disney. They have
>> been verified. I don't really give a crap what you believe, but there
>> have even been court cases where anything commercial was involved.
>>

>
> Show me one documented case of Disney grabbing some baby's bib and
> confiscating it and I'll apologize. Until then, I stand by my first
> assessment of the grandma baby bib "horror story" as bullshit. :-)

First, you show me where I said it was confiscated. I left everything I
posted so you can re-read it. I'll wait.

"GarageWoodworks" <[email protected]> wrote
>> Very clever; however, the Jeopardy Show might voice an objection
>> unless you are willing to pay for the right to use their material.
>
> Are you serious?
>

I've heard many horror stores of companies going after anyone infringing
upon their copyrights. Disney is one of the toughest. If grandma make a
Mickey image on baby's bib, don't go to Disney World wearing it. ASCAP
has gone after stores playing music in stores. You'd probably only get a
cease and desist order if it is non-commercial, but I'd not use anyone's
music or images unless they are in the public domain.

On Mar 28, 7:48=A0pm, -MIKE- <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 3/28/10 6:22 PM, GarageWoodworks wrote:
>
> >> Oh, I thought bushings came is sets of every reasonable size.
>
> > Yes, they do come in sets. =A0And, no, they do not contain every size
> > bushing you will ever need. =A0Aside from differing in diameter, they
> > also differ in height. =A0My larger diameter bushings are too tall (it
> > would hit the stock).
>
> I had that problem when I got my dovetail jig, so I cut the sumbench down=
.
> I used the bandsaw and then the disc sander.
>

Not a bad solution. I would be tempted to do that, but I don't make
mitered half laps often enough. They are fun to make though.





> --
>
> =A0 -MIKE-
>
> =A0 "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
> =A0 =A0 =A0--Elvin Jones =A0(1927-2004)
> =A0 --
> =A0http://mikedrums.com
> =A0 [email protected]
> =A0 ---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply

On Mar 28, 1:24=A0pm, "[email protected]"
<[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Mar 2010 06:44:58 -0700 (PDT), GarageWoodworks
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >On Mar 27, 3:43 am, GarageWoodworks <[email protected]>
> >wrote:
> >> Just put this together:
>
> >>http://www.garagewoodworks.com/video.php
>
> >> Comments welcomed.
>
> >Thanks to all that checked out the video! =A0Like I said at the end,
> >there are a half-dozen other ways to do this, but this is my
> >preferred.
> >I sincerely appreciate your feedback.
> >--with the exception of one mean dude. =A0:^(
>
> I really like your videos and have learned a lot from them (and will revi=
ew
> them as needed ;). =A0I too was disappointed in the "sneak up on" advice.=
That's
> the part that always bites me. =A0The jig is a fantastic idea (a hint on =
how to
> make them would be nice) and I'll steal that part, however I'll do my bes=
t to
> figure out a way around the "sneak up on" part. =A0
>
> IS there a reason you used such a small router bit?

yes, I don't own the guide bushing I needed for the larger bit. The
other large guide bushings that I do own were to tall and extended
above my 1/2 mdf jig.

I'm sure there must be a way around sneaking up on it and would to
hear of any working solutions. Thanks!

> =A0It would seem like a 1/2"
> bit in a 3/4" bushing, or some such, would be easier and give a known "sn=
eak
> up" factor.

On 3/27/2010 6:39 AM, dadiOH wrote:
> GarageWoodworks wrote:
>> Just put this together:
>>
>> http://www.garagewoodworks.com/video.php
>>
>> Comments welcomed.
>
> Informative and nicely done, liked the music too :)
>
> Although I'ved used a router to clean up the bottom I've stopped doing so
> because I can do it with a four in hand file and/or a chisel faster and
> about as well.
>
Agreed, informative and nicely done, Brian! Not too sure about the
music, though... :)

Have never made one (yet), but now have a much better understanding of
how to do it. Thanks!

Matt

On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 14:02:02 -0700, the infamous "LDosser"
<[email protected]> scrawled the following:

>"Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 15:42:26 -0700 (PDT), the infamous
>> "jack-bench.com" <[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>>
>>>On Mar 28, 8:44 am, GarageWoodworks <[email protected]>
>>>wrote:
>>>> On Mar 27, 3:43 am, GarageWoodworks <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Just put this together:
>>>>
>>>> >http://www.garagewoodworks.com/video.php
>>>>
>>>> > Comments welcomed.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks to all that checked out the video! Like I said at the end,
>>>> there are a half-dozen other ways to do this, but this is my
>>>> preferred.
>>>> I sincerely appreciate your feedback.
>>>> --with the exception of one mean dude. :^(
>>>
>>>HI Brian,
>>>
>>>Thanks for the posting. You have a great website. Are your videos on
>>>you tube?
>>
>> Speaking of videos, Charlie, why don't you have a video of your bench
>> going up and down?
>
>He does.

Where? The only one I saw was where he was talking in front of it. I
didn't see one dance. URL?

--
May those who love us, love us;
And may those that don't love us,
May God turn their hearts;
And if he doesn't turn their hearts,
may he turn their ankles,
So we'll know them by their limping.
--old Gaelic blessing

On Mar 27, 3:43=A0am, GarageWoodworks <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Just put this together:
>
> http://www.garagewoodworks.com/video.php
>
> Comments welcomed.

Nice touch with the Jeopardy theme. Joint was well executed too.
Joe G

On Mar 27, 3:43=A0am, GarageWoodworks <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Just put this together:
>
> http://www.garagewoodworks.com/video.php
>
> Comments welcomed.

If your material is thick enough you can use a dado clean-out bit to
clean it up. It's just a short top bearing guided bit that can run
against the sawn miter.

JP

On Mar 27, 3:35=A0pm, "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "GarageWoodworks" wrote:
> > Just put this together:
>
> >http://www.garagewoodworks.com/video.php
>
> > Comments welcomed.
>
> ---------------------------------------------
> Very clever; however, the Jeopardy Show might voice an objection
> unless you are willing to pay for the right to use their material.

Are you serious?

>
> "Sneaking up on it" doesn't do much for me.
>
> Isn't "Tooling" is supposed to eliminate the need to sneak up on it?

You obviously have a better way to do it so I suggest you do it your
way.



>
> Lew

On Mar 28, 3:53=A0pm, "[email protected]"
<[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Mar 2010 11:01:28 -0700 (PDT), GarageWoodworks
>
>
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >On Mar 28, 1:34=A0pm, Dave Balderstone
> ><dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> wrote:
> >> In article <[email protected]>,
>
> >> <"[email protected]"> wrote:
> >> > On Sun, 28 Mar 2010 06:44:58 -0700 (PDT), GarageWoodworks
> >> > <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> > >On Mar 27, 3:43=A0am, GarageWoodworks <[email protected]>
> >> > >wrote:
> >> > >> Just put this together:
>
> >> > >>http://www.garagewoodworks.com/video.php
>
> >> > >> Comments welcomed.
>
> >> > >Thanks to all that checked out the video! =A0Like I said at the end=
,
> >> > >there are a half-dozen other ways to do this, but this is my
> >> > >preferred.
> >> > >I sincerely appreciate your feedback.
> >> > >--with the exception of one mean dude. =A0:^(
>
> >> > I really like your videos and have learned a lot from them (and will=
review
> >> > them as needed ;). =A0I too was disappointed in the "sneak up on" ad=
vice. That's
> >> > the part that always bites me. =A0The jig is a fantastic idea (a hin=
t on how to
> >> > make them would be nice) and I'll steal that part, however I'll do m=
y best to
> >> > figure out a way around the "sneak up on" part. =A0
>
> >> > IS there a reason you used such a small router bit? =A0It would seem=
like a 1/2"
> >> > bit in a 3/4" bushing, or some such, would be easier and give a know=
n "sneak
> >> > up" factor.
>
> >> Those are the same questions I have. Why sneak up rather than make the
> >> line the first cut?
>
> >> And the small bit had me pondering too.
>
> >> The jigs are great, but I don't really get the rest of the technique.
> >> It seems to me with a bit more thought they could be modified to
> >> eliminate the sneaking.
>
> >I don't own the appropriate guide bushing. =A0Would love to hear any
> >suggestions regarding the sneaking up other than "use an indexing
> >pin". =A0 Where would you put an indexing pin?
>
> Oh, I thought bushings came is sets of every reasonable size.

Yes, they do come in sets. And, no, they do not contain every size
bushing you will ever need. Aside from differing in diameter, they
also differ in height. My larger diameter bushings are too tall (it
would hit the stock).

> =A0For small parts, how about a stop on the back edge of the jig with a s=
pacer equal to the
> radii of the bushing-bit? =A0Align the stop block to the distance from th=
e cut
> to be opposite end and add the spacer to push the work the proper distanc=
e
> (further) into the bit. =A0

You would need to be able to remove it when doing the opposite side
and be able to put in a second one for the other half-lap. Remember
the same jig is used twice. One for the 45 half-lap and one for the
90 half-lap.

Plus your solution would only work for short stock. My train table
stock shown in the video was quite long.


>
> Or, perhaps for larger pieces, or where the opposite end isn't yet finish=
ed,
> marks on the jig placed radius(bushing)-radius(bit) apart. =A0Clamp and h=
ave at
> it.

This sounds a little better.

IMHO, I think 'we' are making to much of the "sneaking up" on it
maneuver. There's nothing to it. This isn't brain surgery. :^)

>
> ...just thinking. =A0I really do like the jigs, though. =A0Do you make th=
em at one
> time and then cut in half?

I made them several years ago and I honestly don't remember. I would
make them independently to make things easier (probably what I did).

On Mar 27, 3:43=A0am, GarageWoodworks <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Just put this together:
>
> http://www.garagewoodworks.com/video.php
>
> Comments welcomed.

Thanks to all that checked out the video! Like I said at the end,
there are a half-dozen other ways to do this, but this is my
preferred.
I sincerely appreciate your feedback.
--with the exception of one mean dude. :^(

On 3/27/10 2:35 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
> ---------------------------------------------
> Very clever; however, the Jeopardy Show might voice an objection
> unless you are willing to pay for the right to use their material.
>

Yeah, I'm sure they're reeeeeal concerned with that.


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"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "GarageWoodworks" wrote:
>
>> Just put this together:
>>
>> http://www.garagewoodworks.com/video.php
>>
>> Comments welcomed.
> ---------------------------------------------
> Very clever; however, the Jeopardy Show might voice an objection unless
> you are willing to pay for the right to use their material.
>
> "Sneaking up on it" doesn't do much for me.
>
> Isn't "Tooling" is supposed to eliminate the need to sneak up on it?
>
> Lew


Lew,

Would you consider using a jig to hold the work piece at 45 degrees, so you
could cut
the joint with a TS and a fence (like they often do for a lapped joint)?
Once you got set
up it seems like it would be very fast.

Bill

On 3/27/10 10:37 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> "GarageWoodworks" <[email protected]> wrote
>>> Very clever; however, the Jeopardy Show might voice an objection
>>> unless you are willing to pay for the right to use their material.
>>
>> Are you serious?
>>
>
> I've heard many horror stores of companies going after anyone infringing
> upon their copyrights. Disney is one of the toughest. If grandma make a
> Mickey image on baby's bib, don't go to Disney World wearing it.

Bullshit.


> ASCAP
> has gone after stores playing music in stores. You'd probably only get a
> cease and desist order if it is non-commercial, but I'd not use anyone's
> music or images unless they are in the public domain.

That would be performance to an audience (customers) for commercial
gain. They have whole division set up just to track down stores who
don't pay the public performance fees. That's because there are
thousands of stores playing music to millions of customers and it's been
proven that the music makes them buy more=commercial gain.

They're not going to waste time and resources going after someone who
uses they're outdated theme song as a parody in a video on an obscure
website that gets a few hundred hits.

Even if it was on youtube, getting a million hits and he was generating
ad revenue, it would probably fall under the under 30 seconds fair use
rules.


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On 3/27/10 10:50 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>> Very clever; however, the Jeopardy Show might voice an objection
>> unless you are willing to pay for the right to use their material.
>>
>> "Sneaking up on it" doesn't do much for me.
>>
>> Isn't "Tooling" is supposed to eliminate the need to sneak up on it?
>
> My thoughts exactly. I'd have mounted the board in a jig and used a
> much larger bit with guide to take it at the line, then quickly pare
> off the rest of the field in 1/10th the time and effort.<shrug>
>

Larry, honestly, I try to like you but when you write these juvenile
little action scripts, <shrug> <sigh> etc., it come across as very
condescending and immature.


> A tenon jig would have been a whole lot quicker, too, including
> building the 45-degree tenoning jig. ;)
>

How about you guys take some videos and post them.


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On 3/28/10 1:07 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> "-MIKE-" <[email protected]> wrote
>>>
>>> I've heard many horror stores of companies going after anyone infringing
>>> upon their copyrights. Disney is one of the toughest. If grandma make a
>>> Mickey image on baby's bib, don't go to Disney World wearing it.
>>
>> Bullshit.
>
> My wife does machine embroidery and has a collection of thousands of
> characters. She is also up on the latest problems with copyright
> infringement and knows all the stories, especially of Disney. They have
> been verified. I don't really give a crap what you believe, but there
> have even been court cases where anything commercial was involved.
>
> You may even be unaware of the Sonny Bono Copyright Term Extension Act
> but that does not mean it does not exist either. Steamboat Willy lives.
> Check the 1999 Eric Eldred filings that have been struck down. The
> Disney Empire depends on intellectual property and they defend it
> vigorously.
>

I don't know about any of that stuff you wrote, because it's completely
irrelevant to your baby bib at Disney allegory.

Show me one documented case of Disney grabbing some baby's bib and
confiscating it and I'll apologize. Until then, I stand by my first
assessment of the grandma baby bib "horror story" as bullshit. :-)


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On 3/28/10 6:22 PM, GarageWoodworks wrote:
>> Oh, I thought bushings came is sets of every reasonable size.
>
> Yes, they do come in sets. And, no, they do not contain every size
> bushing you will ever need. Aside from differing in diameter, they
> also differ in height. My larger diameter bushings are too tall (it
> would hit the stock).
>

I had that problem when I got my dovetail jig, so I cut the sumbench down.
I used the bandsaw and then the disc sander.


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On 3/28/10 7:01 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>> Larry, honestly, I try to like you but when you write these juvenile
>> little action scripts,<shrug> <sigh> etc., it come across as very
>> condescending and immature.
>
> Well, my posts are not intended to be that way.<shrug> When you
> detect a whole lot of facetiousness in a post, consider it humor, eh?
>

It's all good. peace


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On 3/28/10 10:24 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> "-MIKE-" <[email protected]> wrote
>>>>>
>>>>> I've heard many horror stores of companies going after anyone
>>>>> infringing
>>>>> upon their copyrights. Disney is one of the toughest. If grandma
>>>>> make a
>>>>> Mickey image on baby's bib, don't go to Disney World wearing it.
>>>>
>>>> Bullshit.
>>>
>>> My wife does machine embroidery and has a collection of thousands of
>>> characters. She is also up on the latest problems with copyright
>>> infringement and knows all the stories, especially of Disney. They have
>>> been verified. I don't really give a crap what you believe, but there
>>> have even been court cases where anything commercial was involved.
>>>
>
>>
>> Show me one documented case of Disney grabbing some baby's bib and
>> confiscating it and I'll apologize. Until then, I stand by my first
>> assessment of the grandma baby bib "horror story" as bullshit. :-)
>
> First, you show me where I said it was confiscated. I left everything I
> posted so you can re-read it. I'll wait.

Oh, please. How weak.

Ok, then, *you* tell me what will happen to Grandma or the parents or
the baby.
*Something* must happen. After all, you've heard "horror stories."

I left everything you posted so you can re-read it. I'll wait.


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On 3/29/10 4:48 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> How weak? You put words in my mouth and then call me weak when I call
> you on it?
>

Hardly. You were in retreat mode because you knew it was bs.


> People have been asked to leave the park, people have been given legal
> notice to cease and desist. It does not make for a pleasant day. Those
> that have done it commercially have been taken to court.

Show me one documented case or one newspaper article about someone
getting kicked out of Disney for wearing a homemade Disney character
shirt and I'll apologize.

Until then, I call your following statements BS:
"Disney is one of the toughest. If grandma make a
Mickey image on baby's bib, don't go to Disney World wearing it."
"People have been asked to leave the park,"

Your words, I didn't put anything "in your mouth."


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"Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 15:42:26 -0700 (PDT), the infamous
> "jack-bench.com" <[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>
>>On Mar 28, 8:44 am, GarageWoodworks <[email protected]>
>>wrote:
>>> On Mar 27, 3:43 am, GarageWoodworks <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Just put this together:
>>>
>>> >http://www.garagewoodworks.com/video.php
>>>
>>> > Comments welcomed.
>>>
>>> Thanks to all that checked out the video! Like I said at the end,
>>> there are a half-dozen other ways to do this, but this is my
>>> preferred.
>>> I sincerely appreciate your feedback.
>>> --with the exception of one mean dude. :^(
>>
>>HI Brian,
>>
>>Thanks for the posting. You have a great website. Are your videos on
>>you tube?
>
> Speaking of videos, Charlie, why don't you have a video of your bench
> going up and down?

He does.

"LDosser" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 15:42:26 -0700 (PDT), the infamous
>> "jack-bench.com" <[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>>
>>>On Mar 28, 8:44 am, GarageWoodworks <[email protected]>
>>>wrote:
>>>> On Mar 27, 3:43 am, GarageWoodworks <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Just put this together:
>>>>
>>>> >http://www.garagewoodworks.com/video.php
>>>>
>>>> > Comments welcomed.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks to all that checked out the video! Like I said at the end,
>>>> there are a half-dozen other ways to do this, but this is my
>>>> preferred.
>>>> I sincerely appreciate your feedback.
>>>> --with the exception of one mean dude. :^(
>>>
>>>HI Brian,
>>>
>>>Thanks for the posting. You have a great website. Are your videos on
>>>you tube?
>>
>> Speaking of videos, Charlie, why don't you have a video of your bench
>> going up and down?
>
> He does.


Pretty fancy... ; )

"Bill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "LDosser" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> "Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 15:42:26 -0700 (PDT), the infamous
>>> "jack-bench.com" <[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>>>
>>>>On Mar 28, 8:44 am, GarageWoodworks <[email protected]>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>> On Mar 27, 3:43 am, GarageWoodworks <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > Just put this together:
>>>>>
>>>>> >http://www.garagewoodworks.com/video.php
>>>>>
>>>>> > Comments welcomed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks to all that checked out the video! Like I said at the end,
>>>>> there are a half-dozen other ways to do this, but this is my
>>>>> preferred.
>>>>> I sincerely appreciate your feedback.
>>>>> --with the exception of one mean dude. :^(
>>>>
>>>>HI Brian,
>>>>
>>>>Thanks for the posting. You have a great website. Are your videos on
>>>>you tube?
>>>
>>> Speaking of videos, Charlie, why don't you have a video of your bench
>>> going up and down?
>>
>> He does.
>
>
> Pretty fancy... ; )
>
>

Yes, and I love the idea. :)

"Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 14:02:02 -0700, the infamous "LDosser"
> <[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>
>>"Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>> On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 15:42:26 -0700 (PDT), the infamous
>>> "jack-bench.com" <[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>>>
>>>>On Mar 28, 8:44 am, GarageWoodworks <[email protected]>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>> On Mar 27, 3:43 am, GarageWoodworks <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > Just put this together:
>>>>>
>>>>> >http://www.garagewoodworks.com/video.php
>>>>>
>>>>> > Comments welcomed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks to all that checked out the video! Like I said at the end,
>>>>> there are a half-dozen other ways to do this, but this is my
>>>>> preferred.
>>>>> I sincerely appreciate your feedback.
>>>>> --with the exception of one mean dude. :^(
>>>>
>>>>HI Brian,
>>>>
>>>>Thanks for the posting. You have a great website. Are your videos on
>>>>you tube?
>>>
>>> Speaking of videos, Charlie, why don't you have a video of your bench
>>> going up and down?
>>
>>He does.
>
> Where? The only one I saw was where he was talking in front of it. I
> didn't see one dance. URL?

Videos 1 and 5:

http://www.jack-bench.com/workbench%20plans%20-%20workbench%20videos.htm

On 4/1/10 12:00 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>>> Where? The only one I saw was where he was talking in front of it. I
>>> didn't see one dance. URL?
>>
>> Videos 1 and 5:
>>
>> http://www.jack-bench.com/workbench%20plans%20-%20workbench%20videos.htm
>
> Yeah, I found them right after writing that. Actuation is a bit on
> the bumpy side, but it works as advertised, alright.
>

I just watch a couple of those and see a pretty glaring flaw.
When it's lowered, that threaded rod with the eye-loop, sticks out
pretty far,
right at the level of many knees.

Ever hit your kneecap on a metal support underneath a table at a
restaurant?
Last time I did, I about puked from the pain.


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"-MIKE-" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 4/1/10 12:00 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>>>> Where? The only one I saw was where he was talking in front of it. I
>>>> didn't see one dance. URL?
>>>
>>> Videos 1 and 5:
>>>
>>> http://www.jack-bench.com/workbench%20plans%20-%20workbench%20videos.htm
>>
>> Yeah, I found them right after writing that. Actuation is a bit on
>> the bumpy side, but it works as advertised, alright.
>>
>
> I just watch a couple of those and see a pretty glaring flaw.
> When it's lowered, that threaded rod with the eye-loop, sticks out pretty
> far,
> right at the level of many knees.
>
> Ever hit your kneecap on a metal support underneath a table at a
> restaurant?
> Last time I did, I about puked from the pain.
>


I hate it when somebody does that ...

GarageWoodworks wrote:
> Just put this together:
>
> http://www.garagewoodworks.com/video.php
>
> Comments welcomed.

Informative and nicely done, liked the music too :)

Although I'ved used a router to clean up the bottom I've stopped doing so
because I can do it with a four in hand file and/or a chisel faster and
about as well.

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"GarageWoodworks" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Just put this together:
>
> http://www.garagewoodworks.com/video.php
>
> Comments welcomed.


Pretty cool Brian. Nicely done!

On Sat, 27 Mar 2010 23:41:28 -0500, the infamous -MIKE-
<[email protected]> scrawled the following:

>On 3/27/10 10:50 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>>> Very clever; however, the Jeopardy Show might voice an objection
>>> unless you are willing to pay for the right to use their material.
>>>
>>> "Sneaking up on it" doesn't do much for me.
>>>
>>> Isn't "Tooling" is supposed to eliminate the need to sneak up on it?
>>
>> My thoughts exactly. I'd have mounted the board in a jig and used a
>> much larger bit with guide to take it at the line, then quickly pare
>> off the rest of the field in 1/10th the time and effort.<shrug>
>>
>
>Larry, honestly, I try to like you but when you write these juvenile
>little action scripts, <shrug> <sigh> etc., it come across as very
>condescending and immature.

Well, my posts are not intended to be that way. <shrug> When you
detect a whole lot of facetiousness in a post, consider it humor, eh?


>> A tenon jig would have been a whole lot quicker, too, including
>> building the 45-degree tenoning jig. ;)
>>
>
>How about you guys take some videos and post them.

No camera, and far too much crap in the shop to take pics of it. =:0

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On Sun, 28 Mar 2010 11:01:28 -0700 (PDT), GarageWoodworks
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Mar 28, 1:34 pm, Dave Balderstone
><dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> wrote:
>> In article <[email protected]>,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> <"[email protected]"> wrote:
>> > On Sun, 28 Mar 2010 06:44:58 -0700 (PDT), GarageWoodworks
>> > <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > >On Mar 27, 3:43 am, GarageWoodworks <[email protected]>
>> > >wrote:
>> > >> Just put this together:
>>
>> > >>http://www.garagewoodworks.com/video.php
>>
>> > >> Comments welcomed.
>>
>> > >Thanks to all that checked out the video!  Like I said at the end,
>> > >there are a half-dozen other ways to do this, but this is my
>> > >preferred.
>> > >I sincerely appreciate your feedback.
>> > >--with the exception of one mean dude.  :^(
>>
>> > I really like your videos and have learned a lot from them (and will review
>> > them as needed ;).  I too was disappointed in the "sneak up on" advice. That's
>> > the part that always bites me.  The jig is a fantastic idea (a hint on how to
>> > make them would be nice) and I'll steal that part, however I'll do my best to
>> > figure out a way around the "sneak up on" part.  
>>
>> > IS there a reason you used such a small router bit?  It would seem like a 1/2"
>> > bit in a 3/4" bushing, or some such, would be easier and give a known "sneak
>> > up" factor.
>>
>> Those are the same questions I have. Why sneak up rather than make the
>> line the first cut?
>>
>> And the small bit had me pondering too.
>>
>> The jigs are great, but I don't really get the rest of the technique.
>> It seems to me with a bit more thought they could be modified to
>> eliminate the sneaking.
>
>I don't own the appropriate guide bushing. Would love to hear any
>suggestions regarding the sneaking up other than "use an indexing
>pin". Where would you put an indexing pin?

Oh, I thought bushings came is sets of every reasonable size. For small
parts, how about a stop on the back edge of the jig with a spacer equal to the
radii of the bushing-bit? Align the stop block to the distance from the cut
to be opposite end and add the spacer to push the work the proper distance
(further) into the bit.

Or, perhaps for larger pieces, or where the opposite end isn't yet finished,
marks on the jig placed radius(bushing)-radius(bit) apart. Clamp and have at
it.

...just thinking. I really do like the jigs, though. Do you make them at one
time and then cut in half?

On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 15:42:26 -0700 (PDT), the infamous
"jack-bench.com" <[email protected]> scrawled the following:

>On Mar 28, 8:44 am, GarageWoodworks <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>> On Mar 27, 3:43 am, GarageWoodworks <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Just put this together:
>>
>> >http://www.garagewoodworks.com/video.php
>>
>> > Comments welcomed.
>>
>> Thanks to all that checked out the video!  Like I said at the end,
>> there are a half-dozen other ways to do this, but this is my
>> preferred.
>> I sincerely appreciate your feedback.
>> --with the exception of one mean dude.  :^(
>
>HI Brian,
>
>Thanks for the posting. You have a great website. Are your videos on
>you tube?

Speaking of videos, Charlie, why don't you have a video of your bench
going up and down?

--
May those who love us, love us;
And may those that don't love us,
May God turn their hearts;
And if he doesn't turn their hearts,
may he turn their ankles,
So we'll know them by their limping.
--old Gaelic blessing

On Sun, 28 Mar 2010 06:44:58 -0700 (PDT), GarageWoodworks
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Mar 27, 3:43 am, GarageWoodworks <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>> Just put this together:
>>
>> http://www.garagewoodworks.com/video.php
>>
>> Comments welcomed.
>
>Thanks to all that checked out the video! Like I said at the end,
>there are a half-dozen other ways to do this, but this is my
>preferred.
>I sincerely appreciate your feedback.
>--with the exception of one mean dude. :^(

I really like your videos and have learned a lot from them (and will review
them as needed ;). I too was disappointed in the "sneak up on" advice. That's
the part that always bites me. The jig is a fantastic idea (a hint on how to
make them would be nice) and I'll steal that part, however I'll do my best to
figure out a way around the "sneak up on" part.

IS there a reason you used such a small router bit? It would seem like a 1/2"
bit in a 3/4" bushing, or some such, would be easier and give a known "sneak
up" factor.