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"patrick conroy"

25/04/2005 7:31 PM

Quote: Why we build

The fun I had experienced in making things as a
boy was magnified a hundredfold when I began
making things as a man. There is in manufacturing a
creative joy that only poets are supposed to know. Some
day I'd like to show a poet how it feels to design
and build a railroad locomotive.
- Walter P. Chrysler, Life of An American Workman (1937)


This topic has 34 replies

PC

Patrick Conroy

in reply to "patrick conroy" on 25/04/2005 7:31 PM

28/04/2005 10:30 PM

Larry Jaques <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

>
> Ain't that a bit redundant there, Roy?

CYA - well CMA, actually. I wasn't sure if akshully I knew what
"parsimonious" meant.


> Careful you don't start a Jaquesfield/Conroy thing, son.
>

No sir - the last thing I need.
My "Aunt Dot" is still pissed over the whole Sherman's burning of Atlanta.
Seems it's my fault, and all. 'Cause I was born in the "Nawth".

TW

Tom Watson

in reply to "patrick conroy" on 25/04/2005 7:31 PM

27/04/2005 8:18 AM

On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 05:10:20 -0700, Larry Jaques
<novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote:

A bunch of funny stuff.

You made me laugh out loud, C-Less.

Thanks.



TW

Tom Watson

in reply to "patrick conroy" on 25/04/2005 7:31 PM

27/04/2005 6:12 PM

On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 05:10:20 -0700, Larry Jaques
<novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote:


>
>As Margaret Shertzer wrote in her book, The Elements of Grammar, "Most
>common nouns ending in "o" preceded by a consonant form their plurals
>by adding an "es" to the singular." typo, typoes.
>
>Webster agreed in their New Collegiate dictionary with "The plural
>form of a noun ending in a consonant and "o" is -oes: hero, heroes."
>

OK - I had to run this morning and didn't have time to look up the
reference until now:

Webster's New World College Dictionary, Fourth Edition. 2000. p.
1549: "Typo" n., pl. "pos"...

Now pay up!


TW

Tom Watson

in reply to "patrick conroy" on 25/04/2005 7:31 PM

26/04/2005 9:14 PM

On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 18:03:40 -0700, The Clueless C-Less Larry Jaques
<novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote:


>Good'un, Tawm. Now fix your typoes and grammar.
>("came" vs. "come", "sprung from" vs. "sprung form")
>
>LJ--Critic & WET At Large
>
>
>-------------------------------------------------------------------
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> There is no try. --Yoda * http://www.diversify.com
>-------------------------------------------------------------------


It's "typos".

Are you perhaps related to Dan Quayle?

"...the man ain't got no culture..."

(rob z.)

You will never understand poetry, nor high language, C-Less.

You've proven it over and over again.


BTW - I still love you for whom you are (now, isn't that damned
awkward - the language, I mean?)




Tom Watson - WoodDorker
tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet (email)
http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1/ (website)

Pn

Prometheus

in reply to "patrick conroy" on 25/04/2005 7:31 PM

26/04/2005 5:51 AM

On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:31:20 GMT, "patrick conroy"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>The fun I had experienced in making things as a
>boy was magnified a hundredfold when I began
>making things as a man. There is in manufacturing a
>creative joy that only poets are supposed to know. Some
>day I'd like to show a poet how it feels to design
>and build a railroad locomotive.
>- Walter P. Chrysler, Life of An American Workman (1937)
>

I like that. Thanks for sharing!


Aut inveniam viam aut faciam

Td

"Teamcasa"

in reply to "patrick conroy" on 25/04/2005 7:31 PM

27/04/2005 8:59 AM

Creating things is what I do, the more challenging, the better.
If was easy, anyone could do it.

Dave



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"George"

in reply to "patrick conroy" on 25/04/2005 7:31 PM

28/04/2005 4:39 PM


"Patrick Conroy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I'm pretty sure this is how the whole Hatfield/McCoy thing started too,

Nope. As a Hatfield descendant on Mom's side, I can say it was, as always,
a woman.

Family bible has a lot of Hatfield-McCoy marriages prior.

TW

Tom Watson

in reply to "patrick conroy" on 25/04/2005 7:31 PM

28/04/2005 6:34 PM

On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 17:51:12 -0700, Larry Jaques
<novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 18:12:18 -0400, the inscrutable Tom Watson
><[email protected]> spake:
>
>>On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 05:10:20 -0700, Larry Jaques
>><novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote:
>
>>>As Margaret Shertzer wrote in her book, The Elements of Grammar, "Most
>>>common nouns ending in "o" preceded by a consonant form their plurals
>>>by adding an "es" to the singular." typo, typoes.
>>>
>>>Webster agreed in their New Collegiate dictionary with "The plural
>>>form of a noun ending in a consonant and "o" is -oes: hero, heroes."
>>>
>>
>>OK - I had to run this morning and didn't have time to look up the
>>reference until now:
>>
>>Webster's New World College Dictionary, Fourth Edition. 2000. p.
>>1549: "Typo" n., pl. "pos"...
>>
>>Now pay up!
>
>Damn those revisionist historians! I'm still 2:1 on ya, so it's
>time for your crowbar, not mine.
>
>Now pay up!


Noun 1. poetic license - license used by a writer or artist to
heighten the effect of their work
licence, license - freedom to deviate deliberately from normally
applicable rules or practices (especially in behavior or speech)


http://www.thefreedictionary.com


OK, so it ain't the OED.

I'm still ahead 2:1.


(hee hee hee)

BTW - you might need this:


http://www.klownhammer.org/crowbar/





Tom Watson - WoodDorker
tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet (email)
http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1/ (website)

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to "patrick conroy" on 25/04/2005 7:31 PM

28/04/2005 6:15 AM

On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 10:34:31 GMT, the inscrutable Groggy
<[email protected]> spake:

>>On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 18:12:18 -0400, the inscrutable Tom Watson
>><[email protected]> spake:
>>
>>>On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 05:10:20 -0700, Larry Jaques
>>><novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote:

>>>Now pay up!
>>
>>Damn those revisionist historians! I'm still 2:1 on ya, so it's
>>time for your crowbar, not mine.
>>
>>Now pay up!
>
>There's something about 'Murricans fighting over the English language
>that just makes me smile....
>
>It's good to see you two haven't changed.

Tanks, Grogs. ;)

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LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to "patrick conroy" on 25/04/2005 7:31 PM

28/04/2005 7:07 AM

On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 07:58:38 -0500, the inscrutable Conan The
Librarian <[email protected]> spake:

>Groggy wrote:
>
>> There's something about 'Murricans fighting over the English language
>> that just makes me smile....
>
> This coming from an Aussie?

Yeah, cuz' we usually hassle him, the Poms, and the Canuckistanis over
their misspellings of our language. <nomex=ON>

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----------------------------------------------------
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SS

Stewart Schooley

in reply to "patrick conroy" on 25/04/2005 7:31 PM

29/04/2005 8:01 PM

Larry Jaques wrote:

> On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 20:31:23 -0400, the inscrutable Tom Watson
> <[email protected]> spake:
>
>
>>The joy that I have in walking down a wood row
>>In a yard run by a man who knows trees and the cutting of them
>>Who keeps his best stock in a private place
>>And expects to be asked where it is
>>
>>When I have in my mind a list
>>Of pieces and parts that will go into my current paramour
>>To make her legs slim and refined
>>To give life to the curves that haunt my imagining
>>
>>Some men say that what I do is naught but geometry
>>Sad fools
>>Best to leave them to their confines
>>
>>I come upon a bole of Cherry
>>Grown in the mountains of Pennsylvania
>>For so long that saws can not slab it with a single cut
>>A force of nature beyond the measure and manipulation of man
>>
>>It is ruddy with its essence
>>It is rough as the soil that it has sprung form
>>It is as honest and true as any thing can be
>>
>>It is perfect
>>
>>When I am finished
>>If I am true to my task
>>I will have preserved its ruddiness
>>I will have smoothed its roughness
>>
>>I will have applied the art of man
>>To the art of God
>>
>>And it will be as honest and true
>>As any man made thing can be
>>
>>
>>Amen
>
>
> Good'un, Tawm. Now fix your typoes and grammar.
> ("came" vs. "come", "sprung from" vs. "sprung form")
>
> LJ--Critic & WET At Large
>
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> Do. Or do not. * Stylin' Web Design Services
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> -------------------------------------------------------------------

Good'un, Tawm. Now fix your typoes and grammar.

And write it in blank verse.

Stewart

Pg

Patriarch

in reply to "patrick conroy" on 25/04/2005 7:31 PM

27/04/2005 2:18 PM

"Teamcasa" <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

> Creating things is what I do, the more challenging, the better.
> If was easy, anyone could do it.
>
> Dave
>

There has to be a good reason. Any fool can beat their head against the
wall, and call it a challenge. There's no satisfaction in that. BTDT.

Patriarch

Gs

Groggy

in reply to "patrick conroy" on 25/04/2005 7:31 PM

29/04/2005 12:41 AM

On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 07:58:38 -0500, Conan The Librarian
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Groggy wrote:
>
>> There's something about 'Murricans fighting over the English language
>> that just makes me smile....
>
> This coming from an Aussie?

Hey! Why you, you, knuckle-dragger you. May all your blades go blunt
and rusty Mr Vance!

>
>> It's good to see you two haven't changed.
>>
>> cheers,
>>
>> Groggy [poo suit /on}
>
> Hee, hee. Same here.

Good to read you Chuck, I haven't dropped in for a while and it's a
pleasure to see some old regulars rather than bovine minded kiddy
trolls.

cheers,

Groggy

WD

"William D McQuain"

in reply to "patrick conroy" on 25/04/2005 7:31 PM

26/04/2005 11:37 AM


"patrick conroy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> The fun I had experienced in making things as a
> boy was magnified a hundredfold when I began
> making things as a man. There is in manufacturing a
> creative joy that only poets are supposed to know. Some
> day I'd like to show a poet how it feels to design
> and build a railroad locomotive.
> - Walter P. Chrysler, Life of An American Workman (1937)
>
>

Here's another one I've always liked... he was writing about software
development (teaching that is my job), but it applies just as much to
woodworking (my sanity check):
First is the sheer joy of making things. As the child delights in his mud
pie, so the adult enjoys building things, especially things of his own
design.

Second is the pleasure of making things that are useful to other people.
Deep within, we want others to use our work and to find it helpful.

Third is the fascination of fashioning complex puzzle-like objects of
interlocking moving parts and watching them work in subtle cycles, playing
out the consequences of principles built in from the beginning.

Fourth is the joy of always learning. In one way or another the problem is
ever new, and its solver learns something.

Fred Brooks on "Why Is Programming Fun?"


CT

Conan The Librarian

in reply to "patrick conroy" on 25/04/2005 7:31 PM

28/04/2005 7:58 AM

Groggy wrote:

> There's something about 'Murricans fighting over the English language
> that just makes me smile....

This coming from an Aussie?

> It's good to see you two haven't changed.
>
> cheers,
>
> Groggy [poo suit /on}

Hee, hee. Same here.


Chuck Vance

CT

Conan The Librarian

in reply to "patrick conroy" on 25/04/2005 7:31 PM

29/04/2005 8:08 AM

Groggy wrote:

> On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 07:58:38 -0500, Conan The Librarian
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> This coming from an Aussie?
>
> Hey! Why you, you, knuckle-dragger you. May all your blades go blunt
> and rusty Mr Vance!

OK, that does it, kangaroo-breath. You can call me names, but when
you mention blunt and rusty and my tools in the same sentence ...

You know, that previous sentence didn't come out quite like I
expected.

> Good to read you Chuck, I haven't dropped in for a while and it's a
> pleasure to see some old regulars rather than bovine minded kiddy
> trolls.

You too, Greg. I usually just lurk these days, and watch for an
interesting subject or a poster I enjoy reading. Between all the
political bullcrap and the trolls (is alt.syntax.tactical still
around?), there just hasn't been a whole lot worth reading these days.


Chuck Vance

TW

Tom Watson

in reply to "patrick conroy" on 25/04/2005 7:31 PM

26/04/2005 8:31 PM

On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:31:20 GMT, "patrick conroy"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>The fun I had experienced in making things as a
>boy was magnified a hundredfold when I began
>making things as a man. There is in manufacturing a
>creative joy that only poets are supposed to know. Some
>day I'd like to show a poet how it feels to design
>and build a railroad locomotive.
>- Walter P. Chrysler, Life of An American Workman (1937)
>

The joy that I have in walking down a wood row
In a yard run by a man who knows trees and the cutting of them
Who keeps his best stock in a private place
And expects to be asked where it is

When I have in my mind a list
Of pieces and parts that will go into my current paramour
To make her legs slim and refined
To give life to the curves that haunt my imagining

Some men say that what I do is naught but geometry
Sad fools
Best to leave them to their confines

I come upon a bole of Cherry
Grown in the mountains of Pennsylvania
For so long that saws can not slab it with a single cut
A force of nature beyond the measure and manipulation of man

It is ruddy with its essence
It is rough as the soil that it has sprung form
It is as honest and true as any thing can be

It is perfect

When I am finished
If I am true to my task
I will have preserved its ruddiness
I will have smoothed its roughness

I will have applied the art of man
To the art of God

And it will be as honest and true
As any man made thing can be


Amen



Tom Watson - WoodDorker
tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet (email)
http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1/ (website)

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to Tom Watson on 26/04/2005 8:31 PM

29/04/2005 5:03 AM

On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 00:53:12 GMT, the inscrutable Groggy
<[email protected]> spake:

>On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 07:07:23 -0700, Larry Jaques
><novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Yeah, cuz' we usually hassle him, the Poms, and the Canuckistanis over
>>their misspellings of our language. <nomex=ON>
>
>Well Larry, the beauty of "your language" is that (if you do manage to
>mispell a word) within a year it will appear in Websters.

<sigh> I'm surprised that "truley" hasn't appeared there yet. All the
words I had trouble with as a kid are coming out misspelled in the new
dictionaries. It's truly sick. "Truely" if you believe the newest one.
It's an Anglo-Canucki plot, I tell ya!


>For some reason you guys thought (it seems to be changing now) that it
>was easier to change the language than to properly educate your
>children. What does kind of statement do you think *that* made to the
>world? :-0

It sucks to live in a revisionist society up here. How is it in a
disarmed society down there?


><GD&R and spraying poo suit with flame retardant>

None needed for this round.

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Gs

Groggy

in reply to Tom Watson on 26/04/2005 8:31 PM

29/04/2005 12:56 AM

Gack!!! I should have said:

What does^H^H^H^H kind of statement do you think *that* made to the
world? :-0

Talk about a self defeating statement - sheesh!

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to Tom Watson on 26/04/2005 8:31 PM

29/04/2005 4:46 AM

On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 22:30:43 GMT, the inscrutable Patrick Conroy
<[email protected]> spake:

>Larry Jaques <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote in
>news:[email protected]:
>
>>
>> Ain't that a bit redundant there, Roy?
>
>CYA - well CMA, actually. I wasn't sure if akshully I knew what
>"parsimonious" meant.

Well, I know it's not a vegetable and has nothing to do with a
preacher.


>> Careful you don't start a Jaquesfield/Conroy thing, son.
>
>No sir - the last thing I need.
>My "Aunt Dot" is still pissed over the whole Sherman's burning of Atlanta.
>Seems it's my fault, and all. 'Cause I was born in the "Nawth".

That's prolly true, my being raised in the Sayowth and all.

P.S: I have an Aunt Dot, too.


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--
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LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to Tom Watson on 26/04/2005 8:31 PM

29/04/2005 4:44 AM

On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 18:11:11 -0400, the inscrutable Tom Watson
<[email protected]> spake:

>Ya see, this is why it's fun to ask Larry to come out and play.
>
>Except for that part about the wallet. I'm pretty sure he was serious
>about that.

I carry a professionally ported and polished pair of crowbars.


>"Rochester, start up the Maxwell."
>
>"Right away Mr. C-Less."
>
>"Now, cut that out!"

Tomjack Bennywatson, is that you?


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--
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LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to "patrick conroy" on 25/04/2005 7:31 PM

27/04/2005 5:51 PM

On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 18:12:18 -0400, the inscrutable Tom Watson
<[email protected]> spake:

>On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 05:10:20 -0700, Larry Jaques
><novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote:

>>As Margaret Shertzer wrote in her book, The Elements of Grammar, "Most
>>common nouns ending in "o" preceded by a consonant form their plurals
>>by adding an "es" to the singular." typo, typoes.
>>
>>Webster agreed in their New Collegiate dictionary with "The plural
>>form of a noun ending in a consonant and "o" is -oes: hero, heroes."
>>
>
>OK - I had to run this morning and didn't have time to look up the
>reference until now:
>
>Webster's New World College Dictionary, Fourth Edition. 2000. p.
>1549: "Typo" n., pl. "pos"...
>
>Now pay up!

Damn those revisionist historians! I'm still 2:1 on ya, so it's
time for your crowbar, not mine.

Now pay up!

--
Don't forget the 7 P's:
Proper Prior Planning Prevents Piss-Poor Performance
----------------------------------------------------
http://diversify.com Website Application Programming

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to "patrick conroy" on 25/04/2005 7:31 PM

29/04/2005 4:57 AM

On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 18:34:04 -0400, the inscrutable Tom Watson
<[email protected]> spake:

>>Damn those revisionist historians! I'm still 2:1 on ya, so it's
>>time for your crowbar, not mine.
>>
>>Now pay up!
>
>Noun 1. poetic license - license used by a writer or artist to
>heighten the effect of their work
>licence, license - freedom to deviate deliberately from normally
>applicable rules or practices (especially in behavior or speech)
>
>http://www.thefreedictionary.com
>
>OK, so it ain't the OED.
>
>I'm still ahead 2:1.

I'm sorry, sir, but your poe has a tic. We don't allow those in here.
We's decent folk 'n all. Quotation disqualified.


>(hee hee hee)
>
>BTW - you might need this:
>
>http://www.klownhammer.org/crowbar/

Please review my first paragraph, sir. (Hmmm, I suppose it couldn't
hurt to see the "HOW DO I USE IT" section, could it? (Hmm, OTOH, that
one George might become lonely without the other one...)


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Gs

Groggy

in reply to "patrick conroy" on 25/04/2005 7:31 PM

29/04/2005 12:53 AM

On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 07:07:23 -0700, Larry Jaques
<novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote:


>Yeah, cuz' we usually hassle him, the Poms, and the Canuckistanis over
>their misspellings of our language. <nomex=ON>

Well Larry, the beauty of "your language" is that (if you do manage to
mispell a word) within a year it will appear in Websters.

For some reason you guys thought (it seems to be changing now) that it
was easier to change the language than to properly educate your
children. What does kind of statement do you think *that* made to the
world? :-0

<GD&R and spraying poo suit with flame retardant>

Groggy

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to "patrick conroy" on 25/04/2005 7:31 PM

27/04/2005 5:10 AM

On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 21:14:18 -0400, the inscrutable Tom Watson
<[email protected]> spake:

>On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 18:03:40 -0700, The Clueless C-Less Larry Jaques
><novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Good'un, Tawm. Now fix your typoes and grammar.
>>("came" vs. "come", "sprung from" vs. "sprung form")
>>
>>LJ--Critic & WET At Large
>>
>>
>>-------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Do. Or do not. * Stylin' Web Design Services
>> There is no try. --Yoda * http://www.diversify.com
>>-------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>It's "typos".
>
>Are you perhaps related to Dan Quayle?

No, you? He added an "e" to a singular where it didn't belong.

As Margaret Shertzer wrote in her book, The Elements of Grammar, "Most
common nouns ending in "o" preceded by a consonant form their plurals
by adding an "es" to the singular." typo, typoes.

Webster agreed in their New Collegiate dictionary with "The plural
form of a noun ending in a consonant and "o" is -oes: hero, heroes."

P.S: You didn't address the grammar issue, "spring form", did you?
I wonder why not. <tsk, tsk, tsk>


>"...the man ain't got no culture..."
>
>(rob z.)

I freely admit that's true, but you ain't go no couth; goin' 'round
spouting poetry in public and all. ;)


>You will never understand poetry, nor high language, C-Less.
>
>You've proven it over and over again.

I prefer NOT to "understand" poetry, thanks. I preferred Blake's art.
Now, a good limerick is another thing altogether. Gimme more!


>BTW - I still love you for whom you are (now, isn't that damned
>awkward - the language, I mean?)

<smack> (Oops, that provides for an even more awkward situation.)


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Larry Jaques

in reply to "patrick conroy" on 25/04/2005 7:31 PM

26/04/2005 6:03 PM

On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 20:31:23 -0400, the inscrutable Tom Watson
<[email protected]> spake:

>The joy that I have in walking down a wood row
>In a yard run by a man who knows trees and the cutting of them
>Who keeps his best stock in a private place
>And expects to be asked where it is
>
>When I have in my mind a list
>Of pieces and parts that will go into my current paramour
>To make her legs slim and refined
>To give life to the curves that haunt my imagining
>
>Some men say that what I do is naught but geometry
>Sad fools
>Best to leave them to their confines
>
>I come upon a bole of Cherry
>Grown in the mountains of Pennsylvania
>For so long that saws can not slab it with a single cut
>A force of nature beyond the measure and manipulation of man
>
>It is ruddy with its essence
>It is rough as the soil that it has sprung form
>It is as honest and true as any thing can be
>
>It is perfect
>
>When I am finished
>If I am true to my task
>I will have preserved its ruddiness
>I will have smoothed its roughness
>
>I will have applied the art of man
>To the art of God
>
>And it will be as honest and true
>As any man made thing can be
>
>
>Amen

Good'un, Tawm. Now fix your typoes and grammar.
("came" vs. "come", "sprung from" vs. "sprung form")

LJ--Critic & WET At Large


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Larry Jaques

in reply to Larry Jaques on 26/04/2005 6:03 PM

29/04/2005 5:05 AM

On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 00:56:08 GMT, the inscrutable Groggy
<[email protected]> spake:

>Gack!!! I should have said:
>
>What does^H^H^H^H kind of statement do you think *that* made to the
>world? :-0
>
>Talk about a self defeating statement - sheesh!

Oh, I thought you were just a product of the Aussie school system
and felt that you were, no doubt, -rapidly- gaining on us.
<nomex=ON>


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Prometheus

in reply to "patrick conroy" on 25/04/2005 7:31 PM

29/04/2005 6:26 AM

On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 14:18:01 -0500, Patriarch
<[email protected]> wrote:

>"Teamcasa" <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
>
>> Creating things is what I do, the more challenging, the better.
>> If was easy, anyone could do it.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>
>There has to be a good reason. Any fool can beat their head against the
>wall, and call it a challenge. There's no satisfaction in that. BTDT.

FWIW, the reason I create material things to the absolute best of my
ability is because 99% of my blood relations are crazier than
s**t-house rats. This means that to be a responsible citizen, I
cannot (in good faith) have children- whether I would like them or
not, (and I would like them, but remember the old saying- "Bad Blood
Will Out") The wife agrees with this after meeting the in-laws and my
siblings, so I build to leave a legacy to future generations that
would otherwise be fulfilled via progeny. Hell, the stuff I make may
*never* be worthy of a museum galley- but that's no reason not to try.
I've discussed this at length with my wife, and we've come to the
understanding that children are a "get out of production free" card of
sorts, and as such, we each feel the drive to create items of quality
to reflect our individual senses of life for posterity since we will
not be providing a future generation to carry on our values. I *know*
a lot of folks disagree with this viewpoint, but the whole "nature" V.
"nurture" debate has never been satisfacturally resolved for me, and I
cannot bear the idea of adding parasites to our already laden
societies.

Sometimes the whole thing makes me a little sad, but then I go make
something beautiful (at least to me,) and the world seems ok again for
a little while. Is there any other reason to build?




Aut inveniam viam aut faciam

Mt

"Max"

in reply to "patrick conroy" on 25/04/2005 7:31 PM

26/04/2005 4:14 PM


>
> "patrick conroy" <[email protected]> wrote>

>> The fun I had experienced in making things as a
>> boy was magnified a hundredfold when I began
>> making things as a man. There is in manufacturing a
>> creative joy that only poets are supposed to know. Some
>> day I'd like to show a poet how it feels to design
>> and build a railroad locomotive.
>> - Walter P. Chrysler, Life of An American Workman (1937)

Because it's on SWMBO's list. <G>

Max D.

TW

Tom Watson

in reply to "patrick conroy" on 25/04/2005 7:31 PM

28/04/2005 6:11 PM

On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 09:49:20 -0700, Larry Jaques
<novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 16:30:47 GMT, the inscrutable Patrick Conroy
><[email protected]> spake:
>
>>Groggy <[email protected]> wrote in
>>news:[email protected]:
>>
>>>
>>> There's something about 'Murricans fighting over the English language
>>> that just makes me smile....
>>>
>>
>>As well as watching two parsimonius tightwads tough it out.
>
>Ain't that a bit redundant there, Roy?
>
>
>>Watch. It will eventually degrade into one agreeing to pay but then
>>"realizing" he left his wallet at home.
>
>It could happen.
>
>
>>Ad hominem not far away...
>
>Not from here. I prefer grits.
>
>
>>I'm pretty sure this is how the whole Hatfield/McCoy thing started too,
>
>Careful you don't start a Jaquesfield/Conroy thing, son.
>
>(Ma, fetch my bucket o' buckshot. I feel a bit of joyful entertaining
>about to happ'n...)
>
>-
> Every day above ground is a Good Day(tm).
> -----------
>http://diversify.com Website Application Programming


Ya see, this is why it's fun to ask Larry to come out and play.

Except for that part about the wallet. I'm pretty sure he was serious
about that.



"Rochester, start up the Maxwell."

"Right away Mr. C-Less."

"Now, cut that out!"




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Patrick Conroy

in reply to "patrick conroy" on 25/04/2005 7:31 PM

28/04/2005 4:30 PM

Groggy <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

>
> There's something about 'Murricans fighting over the English language
> that just makes me smile....
>

As well as watching two parsimonius tightwads tough it out.

Watch. It will eventually degrade into one agreeing to pay but then
"realizing" he left his wallet at home.

Ad hominem not far away...

I'm pretty sure this is how the whole Hatfield/McCoy thing started too,

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to "patrick conroy" on 25/04/2005 7:31 PM

28/04/2005 9:49 AM

On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 16:30:47 GMT, the inscrutable Patrick Conroy
<[email protected]> spake:

>Groggy <[email protected]> wrote in
>news:[email protected]:
>
>>
>> There's something about 'Murricans fighting over the English language
>> that just makes me smile....
>>
>
>As well as watching two parsimonius tightwads tough it out.

Ain't that a bit redundant there, Roy?


>Watch. It will eventually degrade into one agreeing to pay but then
>"realizing" he left his wallet at home.

It could happen.


>Ad hominem not far away...

Not from here. I prefer grits.


>I'm pretty sure this is how the whole Hatfield/McCoy thing started too,

Careful you don't start a Jaquesfield/Conroy thing, son.

(Ma, fetch my bucket o' buckshot. I feel a bit of joyful entertaining
about to happ'n...)

-
Every day above ground is a Good Day(tm).
-----------
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Gs

Groggy

in reply to "patrick conroy" on 25/04/2005 7:31 PM

28/04/2005 10:34 AM

On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 17:51:12 -0700, Larry Jaques
<novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 18:12:18 -0400, the inscrutable Tom Watson
><[email protected]> spake:
>
>>On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 05:10:20 -0700, Larry Jaques
>><novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote:
>
>>>As Margaret Shertzer wrote in her book, The Elements of Grammar, "Most
>>>common nouns ending in "o" preceded by a consonant form their plurals
>>>by adding an "es" to the singular." typo, typoes.
>>>
>>>Webster agreed in their New Collegiate dictionary with "The plural
>>>form of a noun ending in a consonant and "o" is -oes: hero, heroes."
>>>
>>
>>OK - I had to run this morning and didn't have time to look up the
>>reference until now:
>>
>>Webster's New World College Dictionary, Fourth Edition. 2000. p.
>>1549: "Typo" n., pl. "pos"...
>>
>>Now pay up!
>
>Damn those revisionist historians! I'm still 2:1 on ya, so it's
>time for your crowbar, not mine.
>
>Now pay up!

There's something about 'Murricans fighting over the English language
that just makes me smile....

It's good to see you two haven't changed.

cheers,

Groggy [poo suit /on}

TW

Tom Watson

in reply to "patrick conroy" on 25/04/2005 7:31 PM

28/04/2005 6:07 PM

On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 16:30:47 GMT, Patrick Conroy
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Groggy <[email protected]> wrote in
>news:[email protected]:
>
>>
>> There's something about 'Murricans fighting over the English language
>> that just makes me smile....
>>
>
>As well as watching two parsimonius tightwads tough it out.

Is a 'parsimonious tightwad' the same as a 'cheap bastige'?

If it is, you're about half right.

I know for a fact that C-Less hasn't cracked his wallet open in so
long that George Washington's gonna need sunglasses when the light
hits him.
>
>Watch. It will eventually degrade into one agreeing to pay but then
>"realizing" he left his wallet at home.

I was gonna hide mine under the seat in the truck.
>
>Ad hominem not far away...

I ain't no 'hominem'. I got two kids.


>
>I'm pretty sure this is how the whole Hatfield/McCoy thing started too,


Nah, me and C-Less are bottomlanders.




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tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet (email)
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