"HeyBub" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Robatoy wrote:
>> Found this in my mailbox. (Thanks, btw)
>>
>> http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o290/Robatoy/daylightsavingtime.jpg
>
> Mustn't forget, in most cases it was the government that gave the Indian
> the blanket in the first place.
Or, more likely, took it away from him.
Max
"SBH" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> Was that before or after they killed most of them and kicked the rest off
> their land?
Before.
I'll bet our indigenous Indians knew:
1.If their feet were cold, push the blanket down
2.If their chest was cold, pull the blanket up
ADJUST THE BLANKET TO SUIT OUR NEEDS?!?!?!?! CHRIST ALMIGHTY!!!!! WE
CAN"T FUCK AROUND THAT WAY!!!!
The next thing you're going to tell me is I can't vary the route I go
to work due to traffic.
-Zz
"HeyBub" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Robatoy wrote:
>> Found this in my mailbox. (Thanks, btw)
>>
>> http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o290/Robatoy/daylightsavingtime.jpg
>
> Mustn't forget, in most cases it was the government that gave the Indian
> the blanket in the first place.
Was that before or after they killed most of them and kicked the rest off
their land?
"J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Anybody who thinks that the Native Americans are not capable of making
> incredibly high quality handwoven textiles needs to check out the Pueblo
> Cultural Center in Albuquerque. Note that contemporary Native American
> rugs
> go for the same kind of prices as Iranian.
Hence the expression, " . . . enough hair on my ass to weave an Indian
blanket."
Dave in Houston
J. Clarke wrote:
> Anybody who thinks that the Native Americans are not capable of making
> incredibly high quality handwoven textiles needs to check out the Pueblo
> Cultural Center in Albuquerque. Note that contemporary Native American rugs
> go for the same kind of prices as Iranian.
IIRC, the highest appraised value for an item on Antiques Roadshow was
at one time an American Indian blanket ... don't remember the exact
price, high six figures ... not bad for a simple black and white saddle
blanket exactly like one I used to have. :)
--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 10/22/08
KarlC@ (the obvious)
On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 04:35:40 -0500, the infamous Greg
G.<[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>Larry Jaques <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> said:
>
>>On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 22:19:14 -0400, the infamous Greg
>>G.<[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>
>>>G'Day mates.
>
>>Hey, it is the old Grogs, ain't it? Howdy, y'old scoundrel. 'Ow the
>>'ell are ya?
>
>Actually, no. I'm from long ago, and remember you, but not the bloke
>your thinking of. I'm more the pariah of Usenet than Groggy.
>Although I am currently considering expatriating to New Zealand.
>
>He was just Greg, I'm
I think Grogs was Gregg someting. But when you said "G'day", I
thought...
In any case, Hello and Welcome!, fellow curmudgeon.
---
Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight
very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands.
It hopes we've learned something from yesterday.
--John Wayne (1907 - 1979)
On Oct 31, 9:33=A0pm, jo4hn <[email protected]> wrote:
> Robatoy wrote:
> > Found this in my mailbox. (Thanks, btw)
>
> >http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o290/Robatoy/daylightsavingtime.jpg
>
> yw.
keep'm coming. <G>
Larry Jaques <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> said:
>On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 22:19:14 -0400, the infamous Greg
>G.<[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>>G'Day mates.
>Hey, it is the old Grogs, ain't it? Howdy, y'old scoundrel. 'Ow the
>'ell are ya?
Actually, no. I'm from long ago, and remember you, but not the bloke
your thinking of. I'm more the pariah of Usenet than Groggy.
Although I am currently considering expatriating to New Zealand.
He was just Greg, I'm
Greg G.
On Oct 31, 9:32=A0pm, "HeyBub" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Robatoy wrote:
> > Found this in my mailbox. (Thanks, btw)
>
> >http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o290/Robatoy/daylightsavingtime.jpg
>
> Mustn't forget, in most cases it was the government that gave the Indian =
the
> blanket in the first place.
oh, for fuck sakes.... give it a rest willya?
J. Clarke wrote:
> Keith Nuttle wrote:
>> HeyBub wrote:
>>> Robatoy wrote:
>>>> Found this in my mailbox. (Thanks, btw)
>>>>
>>>> http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o290/Robatoy/daylightsavingtime.jpg
>>>
>>> Mustn't forget, in most cases it was the government that gave the
>>> Indian the blanket in the first place.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> European type blankets.
>
> Anybody who thinks that the Native Americans are not capable of making
> incredibly high quality handwoven textiles needs to check out the
> Pueblo Cultural Center in Albuquerque. Note that contemporary Native
> American rugs go for the same kind of prices as Iranian.
I agree, that's why I said "most cases." In order to have a woven blanket,
you have to have some sort of fibrous material. In order to have that, you
have to be part of an agricultural society, raise sheep, or somesuch. The
Navajo and Pueblo were part of such groups and could grow flax and other
fiber-bearing material. They were quite good at woven products. And black
fedoras with wide brims.
Other Indians, plains Indians, were nomadic and didn't stay anywhere long
enough to grow much in the way of crops or herds. They were on the move
quite a bit, never stopping long enough to invent the wheel. Or musical
instruments, a written language, rudimentary metallurgy, or much beyond a
remedy for hiccups.
Keith Nuttle wrote:
> HeyBub wrote:
>> Robatoy wrote:
>>> Found this in my mailbox. (Thanks, btw)
>>>
>>> http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o290/Robatoy/daylightsavingtime.jpg
>>
>> Mustn't forget, in most cases it was the government that gave the
>> Indian the blanket in the first place.
>>
>>
>
> European type blankets.
Anybody who thinks that the Native Americans are not capable of making
incredibly high quality handwoven textiles needs to check out the Pueblo
Cultural Center in Albuquerque. Note that contemporary Native American rugs
go for the same kind of prices as Iranian.
HeyBub wrote:
> J. Clarke wrote:
>> Keith Nuttle wrote:
>>> HeyBub wrote:
>>>> Robatoy wrote:
>>>>> Found this in my mailbox. (Thanks, btw)
>>>>>
>>>>> http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o290/Robatoy/daylightsavingtime.jpg
>>>> Mustn't forget, in most cases it was the government that gave the
>>>> Indian the blanket in the first place.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> European type blankets.
>> Anybody who thinks that the Native Americans are not capable of making
>> incredibly high quality handwoven textiles needs to check out the
>> Pueblo Cultural Center in Albuquerque. Note that contemporary Native
>> American rugs go for the same kind of prices as Iranian.
>
> I agree, that's why I said "most cases." In order to have a woven blanket,
> you have to have some sort of fibrous material. In order to have that, you
> have to be part of an agricultural society, raise sheep, or somesuch. The
> Navajo and Pueblo were part of such groups and could grow flax and other
> fiber-bearing material. They were quite good at woven products. And black
> fedoras with wide brims.
>
> Other Indians, plains Indians, were nomadic and didn't stay anywhere long
> enough to grow much in the way of crops or herds. They were on the move
> quite a bit, never stopping long enough to invent the wheel. Or musical
> instruments, a written language, rudimentary metallurgy, or much beyond a
> remedy for hiccups.
>
>
Quibble:
Individual groups do not have to invent everything for them to use the
invention. The plains Indians were aware of the wheel but did not
adapted it into their life style.
The art of weaving has been in all societies for many centuries before
the discovery of American continent. The materials that were used in
weaving were dependent on the the environment they lived.
It is my personal opinion that people today significantly under rate the
accomplishments and technologies of those cultures and people who have
past before us. ie. we have lost our natural knowledge as we become
dependent on electronic technologies. (Or you don't need a computerized
shop to turn out high quality woodworking projects.)
CW wrote:
> "SBH" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Was that before or after they killed most of them and kicked the
>> rest off their land?
>
>
> Before.
That had to be a _long_ time ago. The smallpox killed most of 'em long
before there was anything resembling a "government" in North America.
On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 22:19:14 -0400, the infamous Greg
G.<[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>Robatoy said:
>
>>On Oct 31, 9:32 pm, "HeyBub" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Robatoy wrote:
>>> > Found this in my mailbox. (Thanks, btw)
>>>
>>> >http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o290/Robatoy/daylightsavingtime.jpg
>>>
>>> Mustn't forget, in most cases it was the government that gave the Indian the
>>> blanket in the first place.
>>
>>oh, for fuck sakes.... give it a rest willya?
>
>Small recompense for smallpox and a f'in continent, even if it were
>true.
>
>G'Day mates.
Hey, it is the old Grogs, ain't it? Howdy, y'old scoundrel. 'Ow the
'ell are ya?
---
Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight
very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands.
It hopes we've learned something from yesterday.
--John Wayne (1907 - 1979)
"HeyBub" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> J. Clarke wrote:
>> Keith Nuttle wrote:
>>> HeyBub wrote:
>>>> Robatoy wrote:
>>>>> Found this in my mailbox. (Thanks, btw)
>>>>>
>>>>> http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o290/Robatoy/daylightsavingtime.jpg
>>>>
>>>> Mustn't forget, in most cases it was the government that gave the
>>>> Indian the blanket in the first place.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> European type blankets.
>>
>> Anybody who thinks that the Native Americans are not capable of making
>> incredibly high quality handwoven textiles needs to check out the
>> Pueblo Cultural Center in Albuquerque. Note that contemporary Native
>> American rugs go for the same kind of prices as Iranian.
>
> I agree, that's why I said "most cases." In order to have a woven blanket,
> you have to have some sort of fibrous material. In order to have that, you
> have to be part of an agricultural society, raise sheep, or somesuch. The
> Navajo and Pueblo were part of such groups and could grow flax and other
> fiber-bearing material. They were quite good at woven products. And black
> fedoras with wide brims.
>
> Other Indians, plains Indians, were nomadic and didn't stay anywhere long
> enough to grow much in the way of crops or herds. They were on the move
> quite a bit, never stopping long enough to invent the wheel. Or musical
> instruments, a written language, rudimentary metallurgy, or much beyond a
> remedy for hiccups.
>
For centuries, the nomadic plains Indian had no need of blanket weaving
skills, - there was a ready supply of buffalo robes - prior the advent of
european settlers and the wiping out of the buffalo herds.
No musical instruments? - perhaps drums and double chambered flutes don't
count?
diggerop
Robatoy said:
>On Oct 31, 9:32 pm, "HeyBub" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Robatoy wrote:
>> > Found this in my mailbox. (Thanks, btw)
>>
>> >http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o290/Robatoy/daylightsavingtime.jpg
>>
>> Mustn't forget, in most cases it was the government that gave the Indian the
>> blanket in the first place.
>
>oh, for fuck sakes.... give it a rest willya?
Small recompense for smallpox and a f'in continent, even if it were
true.
G'Day mates.
Greg G.