I have spent the last several weeks looking at jointers and have decided to
buy the Yorkcraft 6" model (model YC-6J). Wilke (the vendor of this
machine) has offered to measure the flatness of the tables and fence and
give me this info, along with the serial number, prior to my purchase.
I'm thinking that a flatness of .003" to .005" over the length of each
element is reasonable but I'd like to hear what others think. So, what do
you think would be reasonable flatness numbers and at what point would you
reject the unit.
Thanks,
Bill Leonhardt
.005"?? That's 5 thousandths of an inch????
And I thought I had a tendency to be anal!!!
Nahh!!! I'd hold out for .001"
Bill Leonhardt wrote:
> I have spent the last several weeks looking at jointers and have decided to
> buy the Yorkcraft 6" model (model YC-6J). Wilke (the vendor of this
> machine) has offered to measure the flatness of the tables and fence and
> give me this info, along with the serial number, prior to my purchase.
>
> I'm thinking that a flatness of .003" to .005" over the length of each
> element is reasonable but I'd like to hear what others think. So, what do
> you think would be reasonable flatness numbers and at what point would you
> reject the unit.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill Leonhardt
>
>
Hi Bill,
Something strange has happened or I was up too early yesterday. Someone had
asked for the issue of FWW that had a picture of a Bombe chest on the back.
And that is what I posted. Now I cannot find the original post. Sorry about
that, JG
Bill Leonhardt wrote:
> JGS,
>
> I assume you're refering to Aug 02 posts on the REC. I had read them and
> went back and read them again. While it was mentioned that flatness was
> important, I didn't see any posts where anyone offered an opinion as what
> value was reasonable. That's why I'm asking now.
>
> Bill
>
> "JGS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > August 2002 IIRC. Cheers, JG
> >
> > "Traves W. Coppock" wrote:
> >
> > > On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 06:45:46 GMT, Mapdude <[email protected]>
> > > Crawled out of the shop and said. . .:
> > >
> > > >.005"?? That's 5 thousandths of an inch????
> > > >
> > > >And I thought I had a tendency to be anal!!!
> > > >
> > > >Nahh!!! I'd hold out for .001"
> > >
> > > you'd be surprised how much 5 thousandths really is...
> > > makes a picture frame look like a 8 pointed star, , ,
> > > to which your SWMBO will say something like,
> > > "we pay all that money for those machines in the basement, and you
> > > make shit like this?"
> > > or if she's really nice, she'll give you the look one usually reserves
> > > for a child giving you a picture of a green dog barking at a purple
> > > sun, and reserve room for it on the refrigerator.
> > >
> > > Traves
> >
It's not so much a question of being anal as expecting reasonable
manufacturing quality. Jointer tables and fences should have ground
surfaces and 3 to 5 mil flatness isn't unreasonable for ground surfaces that
are just a little over 6 inches wide.
"Mapdude" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> .005"?? That's 5 thousandths of an inch????
>
> And I thought I had a tendency to be anal!!!
>
> Nahh!!! I'd hold out for .001"
>
>
>
> Bill Leonhardt wrote:
> > I have spent the last several weeks looking at jointers and have decided
to
> > buy the Yorkcraft 6" model (model YC-6J). Wilke (the vendor of this
> > machine) has offered to measure the flatness of the tables and fence and
> > give me this info, along with the serial number, prior to my purchase.
> >
> > I'm thinking that a flatness of .003" to .005" over the length of each
> > element is reasonable but I'd like to hear what others think. So, what
do
> > you think would be reasonable flatness numbers and at what point would
you
> > reject the unit.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Bill Leonhardt
> >
> >
>
wow, if they are willing to take the time to check the unit before it's
shipped, I say "hallelujah" and they deserve your business. Most places
that sell stuff just order a drop shipment to your shop, without ever
laying eyes on the goods.
keep us posted, Bill
dave
Bill Leonhardt wrote:
> Dave,
>
> What you say is true but there is a slight difference this time. While
> trying to ascertain what their "go-no go" specs were, they offered to
> measure the actual jointer I was buying and let me know the flatness before
> I purchased it. I like their attitude. The only caution I have is that
> their technique for measuring flatness my be in question. In the end, it
> comes down to the place where you gotta have a little faith in people and
> their offer to measure the flatness increased my willingness to have faith.
>
> In any event, I will post my experience to the list.
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> "Bay Area Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>bear in mind that the specs the manufacturer uses to reject a unit may
>>differ from yours. therefore, you can yell to them all you want about
>>wanting a new unit, if it's out a few thous, but they won't do a thing
>>unless it is worse than their specs, which are quite forgiving. You'd
>>be amazed at what Delta tech support will tell you about specs...try
>>calling sometime, pretending to have a Unisaw...
>>
>>dave
>>
>>Bill Leonhardt wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I have spent the last several weeks looking at jointers and have decided
>
> to
>
>>>buy the Yorkcraft 6" model (model YC-6J). Wilke (the vendor of this
>>>machine) has offered to measure the flatness of the tables and fence and
>>>give me this info, along with the serial number, prior to my purchase.
>>>
>>>I'm thinking that a flatness of .003" to .005" over the length of each
>>>element is reasonable but I'd like to hear what others think. So, what
>
> do
>
>>>you think would be reasonable flatness numbers and at what point would
>
> you
>
>>>reject the unit.
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>
>>>Bill Leonhardt
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
JGS,
I assume you're refering to Aug 02 posts on the REC. I had read them and
went back and read them again. While it was mentioned that flatness was
important, I didn't see any posts where anyone offered an opinion as what
value was reasonable. That's why I'm asking now.
Bill
"JGS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> August 2002 IIRC. Cheers, JG
>
> "Traves W. Coppock" wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 06:45:46 GMT, Mapdude <[email protected]>
> > Crawled out of the shop and said. . .:
> >
> > >.005"?? That's 5 thousandths of an inch????
> > >
> > >And I thought I had a tendency to be anal!!!
> > >
> > >Nahh!!! I'd hold out for .001"
> >
> > you'd be surprised how much 5 thousandths really is...
> > makes a picture frame look like a 8 pointed star, , ,
> > to which your SWMBO will say something like,
> > "we pay all that money for those machines in the basement, and you
> > make shit like this?"
> > or if she's really nice, she'll give you the look one usually reserves
> > for a child giving you a picture of a green dog barking at a purple
> > sun, and reserve room for it on the refrigerator.
> >
> > Traves
>
On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 06:45:46 GMT, Mapdude <[email protected]>
Crawled out of the shop and said. . .:
>.005"?? That's 5 thousandths of an inch????
>
>And I thought I had a tendency to be anal!!!
>
>Nahh!!! I'd hold out for .001"
you'd be surprised how much 5 thousandths really is...
makes a picture frame look like a 8 pointed star, , ,
to which your SWMBO will say something like,
"we pay all that money for those machines in the basement, and you
make shit like this?"
or if she's really nice, she'll give you the look one usually reserves
for a child giving you a picture of a green dog barking at a purple
sun, and reserve room for it on the refrigerator.
Traves