This past week I was away working with some people on a project, one of
them showed me the info for a personal project he had made. See
http://members.iinet.net.au/~andronis/index.htm
The truly astounding, to me, is that this was his first (and only) wood
working project
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The comment that I have gotten a lot that never fails to amaze me is "you
can't make one of those, you have to buy them". I'm a machinist and tool
maker. My response always is, "you want to bet"?
I'm sure that he has gotten comments like that a lot on various things he's
done over the years. Joe Average generally doesn't have a clue.
"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> You gotta love the "bizarre comments". Most of us have heard them, every
one
> (even when not applied to the same level of craftsmanship) ... further
proof
> of the end result of the short-circuiting of survival of the fittest.
Unvbelievable piece of work. I have a couple of friends that have
built scrollsaw clocks from plans purchased from Clockit, and they
thought they were doing brain surgery because of the level of accuracy
needed.
Everything is so important on this, not one piece (unless it is an hour
marker on the face) can be less than 100%.
And honestly, I am not sure which I am more appreciative of; the fact
he built it, or the fact that HE designed it and did all his own
drawings. Start to finish it is really impressive.
I enjoyed the comments, too. I remember when I showed off my first
segmented piece I made on my lathe after working my butt off to get
things to line up, fit, and plain just look OK.
One of the first comments I got was "now there's a great way to use up
your scraps!"
Robert
"Ralph E Lindberg" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> This past week I was away working with some people on a project, one of
> them showed me the info for a personal project he had made. See
>
> http://members.iinet.net.au/~andronis/index.htm
>
> The truly astounding, to me, is that this was his first (and only) wood
> working project
On his website he makes the truly disheartening remark that out of 100
people, only a couple of mathematicians appreciate what he has accomplished.
I'm not a mathematician (though I've got a degree in math), but I sure
appreciate the effort involved. And I see there are plenty of others here
that do, too. Hundreds more, if not thousands, I'm willing to bet. When I
was 11, sitting idle after finishing my math exercises quickly, I conceived
of building a wooden clock, and I actually started hacking at it a few years
later. I didn't get very far, but still hope to revive that project
someday. I see the bar has been set pretty high, though.
Please pass along our appreciation, and thanks for showing it to us.
- Owen -
"Bruce Barnett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Ralph E Lindberg <[email protected]> writes:
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>> The truly astounding, to me, is that this was his first (and only) wood
>> working project
>
> The next question is: How long did it take him to make it?
>
> The escapement took 3 months, and there are 290 parts.
>
>
Look further down the page. It says,
a.. Design, Drafting and Manufacture Period
a..
a.. 3,000 Hours over a 2.5 year period.
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> Please post the link to this clock. I missed it in the original posts.
>
> Steve
>
http://members.iinet.net.au/~andronis/index.htm
CW wrote:
> The comment that I have gotten a lot that never fails to amaze me is "you
> can't make one of those, you have to buy them". I'm a machinist and tool
> maker. My response always is, "you want to bet"?
snip
I've had that very comment many times in relation to furniture and other
things I have made.
Used to get it a lot when I had just finished my apprenticeship,
especially by relatives.When I'd say "Of course I can I'm a
cabinetmaker. Who do you think makes the items in the shops". I'd
receive a stunned sort of silence then you'd see the lights slowly come on.
Sort of milk comes from a bottle, Never thought about a cow.
regards
John
"Ralph E Lindberg" wrote in message
> This past week I was away working with some people on a project, one of
> them showed me the info for a personal project he had made. See
>
> http://members.iinet.net.au/~andronis/index.htm
>
> The truly astounding, to me, is that this was his first (and only) wood
> working project
You gotta love the "bizarre comments". Most of us have heard them, every one
(even when not applied to the same level of craftsmanship) ... further proof
of the end result of the short-circuiting of survival of the fittest.
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"Lee Michaels" <leemichaels*nadaspam*@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Look further down the page. It says,
>
> a.. Design, Drafting and Manufacture Period
> a..
> a.. 3,000 Hours over a 2.5 year period.
And that is still pretty fast for a beginner. Some beginners are still
pondering left or right tilt. :~)
Ralph E Lindberg <[email protected]> writes:
> The truly astounding, to me, is that this was his first (and only) wood
> working project
The next question is: How long did it take him to make it?
The escapement took 3 months, and there are 290 parts.
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"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> You gotta love the "bizarre comments". Most of us have heard them, every
> one
> (even when not applied to the same level of craftsmanship) ... further
> proof
> of the end result of the short-circuiting of survival of the fittest.
>
Yeah, but where does the cuckoo come out?
The craftsmanship required to do this is just incredible. Of the 290 parts
in it, I doubt I could get one to have the precision needed.
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In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] wrote:
> Beautiful!
>
> Have you ever seen a one hit wonder that never had anything else to
> prove? I'll bet this guy is pretty good at whatever he does.
>
After working with him on some sonar matters, the answer is YES.
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On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 01:59:00 +0000, John B wrote:
> CW wrote:
>> The comment that I have gotten a lot that never fails to amaze me is
>> "you can't make one of those, you have to buy them". I'm a machinist and
>> tool maker. My response always is, "you want to bet"?
> snip
> I've had that very comment many times in relation to furniture and other
> things I have made.
> Used to get it a lot when I had just finished my apprenticeship,
> especially by relatives.When I'd say "Of course I can I'm a cabinetmaker.
> Who do you think makes the items in the shops". I'd receive a stunned sort
> of silence then you'd see the lights slowly come on. Sort of milk comes
> from a bottle, Never thought about a cow. regards
> John
I've been a machinist and tool / die-maker. I've done production work with
tolerances of only a few millionths (.000030"+-) and did it extremely well
(10,000 parts, 3 rejects). I never sniff at other peoples work. Good tips
its hat to good.
And that clock is good.
Another poster commented that if an assembly does not just fall together,
it's wrong. I would only add that the exception to that rule is when the
resistance is intentional. (see "Classes of Fit" in "Machinery's
Handbook"). I typically do my woodwork to 'sliding fit' with the intention
of doing one test fitting before final assembly. With that class of fit,
you don't get many trial fittings before the class of fit is lost. But
there is something very comforting about having the parts lightly hold
alignment while I grab for the clamps & cauls.
The OP did one heck of a job and has every right to be pleased with the
outcome.
Maybe for his next project he could model the known universe, with orbits.
;-)
Bill
On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 12:46:53 -0800, Ralph E Lindberg <[email protected]>
wrote:
>In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] wrote:
>
>> Beautiful!
>>
>> Have you ever seen a one hit wonder that never had anything else to
>> prove? I'll bet this guy is pretty good at whatever he does.
>>
> After working with him on some sonar matters, the answer is YES.
Suspect he's also a really nice, down to earth person as well. Most
folks who are that good, and know they are that good don't have anything to
prove and are typically just good, neat folks to be around. It's those
people who are mediocre and afraid someone will see through their
mediocrity that are usually arrogant pains in the @$$ to have to deal with.
That is just one amazingly well-crafted piece of work. My dad did watch
repair for a number of years. The precision required of *metal* objects in
order for precise timekeeping is extraordinary, when putting a watch
together, if it didn't just fall into place, something was being done
incorrectly -- it is an absolute testament to this gentleman's
craftsmanship that he could build such a precise clock from wood.
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"Mark & Juanita" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Suspect he's also a really nice, down to earth person as well. Most
> folks who are that good, and know they are that good don't have anything
> to
> prove and are typically just good, neat folks to be around. It's those
> people who are mediocre and afraid someone will see through their
> mediocrity that are usually arrogant pains in the @$$ to have to deal
> with.
I feel that the truly intelligent and talented people have a better
personality because they do not as often become frustrated with their
inadequaticy to express or accomplish.