I have often used barsoap as a screw lube but found it a pain to keep the
surface sufficiently wet to be easy to use. Whe the soap is too dry it
doesn't adhere to the screw, falling off before it is of any use. I once
read that a toilet flange wax ring was useful and happened to find one at
the bottom of one of my 'necessary' boxes. In the past I have used
petroleum jelly and had it migrate to the surface, wrecking the ability to
hold a finish. I am wondering if the wax ring will do the same. What is
your experience with screw lubricants?
On Feb 10, 8:12 pm, "Morris Dovey" <[email protected]> wrote:
> I heard somewhere that soap promotes rusting of screws - but haven't
> seen any first-hand evidence.
>
That wouldn't surprise me one bit. Soap is usually quite basic
(alkalinity)..(as in base vs acid)
When in contact with even a mild base, raw iron will most certainly
corrode.
r----> who lines up screws and sprays TopKote all over them. That is
supposd to be silicon-free and it sure makes the scews go into oak
without a squeek.
On Feb 10, 9:34 pm, "Old guy" <[email protected]> wrote:
> I have an old 35mm film can with Johnson's paste wax in it.
>
> It does dry out over time, but otherwise, just stick the screw in the wax,
> and pop it into place. No problems with migration.
>
> Old Guy
That's what I use. Well, not in a special container, I just grab the
paste wax can off the shelf but that's what I've been using for screw
lube and haven't heard of anything coming apart yet.
That reminds me it's past time to treat the table saw and jointer
beds.
On Feb 10, 8:12=EF=BF=BDpm, "Morris Dovey" <[email protected]> wrote:
> C & E wrote:
>
> | I have often used barsoap as a screw lube but found it a pain to
> | keep the surface sufficiently wet to be easy to use. =A0Whe the soap
> | is too dry it doesn't adhere to the screw, falling off before it is
> | of any use. =A0I once read that a toilet flange wax ring was useful
> | and happened to find one at the bottom of one of my 'necessary'
> | boxes. =A0In the past I have used petroleum jelly and had it migrate
> | to the surface, wrecking the ability to hold a finish. =A0I am
> | wondering if the wax ring will do the same. =A0What is your
> | experience with screw lubricants?
>
> The wax rings are bees' wax and should work well as screw lube.
>
> I heard somewhere that soap promotes rusting of screws - but haven't
> seen any first-hand evidence.
>
> --
Soap is hygroscopic, I think it is. It draws water. If you combine
steel screws and oak you have a real mess given a bit of time.
Paste floor wax and beeswax both work well. I've heard that the new
toilet rings are not beeswax, but it's still generally, and cheaply,
available from any beekeeper (around here, it's two or three bucks a
pound, which should last pretty close to a lifetime as a screw
lubricant source. That's uncleaned. Woodcraft carries the cleaned
stuff in half pound blocks for 13 bucks).
On Feb 11, 2:19 pm, "Mark Jerde" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Buddy Matlosz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >> Buddy Matlosz wrote:
>
> >> > That was Brylcream.
>
> >> Ah, he remembers.
>
> >> All is not lost.
>
> > Brylcream, a little dab'll do ya,
> > Brylcream, you'll look so debonair.
> > Brylcream, the gals will all pursue ya,
> > They'll love to run their fingers through your hair.
>
> > My memory scares me sometimes.
>
> Mine too. Useless stuff I remember. Names, birthdays, appointments, nope.
>
> -- Mark
My photographic memory is running out of film. The format is no longer
supported.
The memory I have left is very good, but short.
Useless bits, however, linger on forever.
Somehow, I remember phone numbers very well... but for some reason,
the odd number here or there just will not stick.
I do remember that it is Valentines in a few days... that's easy to
remember as the death-penalty awaits me if I forget. I call it The
Pink Mile.
r
On Feb 11, 6:17=EF=BF=BDam, Prometheus <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 20:04:52 -0500, "C & E" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >I have often used barsoap as a screw lube but found it a pain to keep the
> >surface sufficiently wet to be easy to use. =A0Whe the soap is too dry it
> >doesn't adhere to the screw, falling off before it is of any use. =A0I o=
nce
> >read that a toilet flange wax ring was useful and happened to find one at
> >the bottom of one of my 'necessary' boxes. =A0In the past I have used
> >petroleum jelly and had it migrate to the surface, wrecking the ability =
to
> >hold a finish. =A0I am wondering if the wax ring will do the same. =A0Wh=
at is
> >your experience with screw lubricants?
>
> I use bar soap, and it's always been fine. =A0I'd caution you against
> using that wax ring for anything but installing a toilet, though.
> Having done that job a number of times when remodeling, it's some of
> the stickiest, nastiest crap there ever was- if you can't get it off
> your fingers, I can't even imagine how hard it would be to get off
> unfinished wood! =A0It's also going to pick up every speck of anything
> that may be floating around the shop as soon as you open it, so expect
> it to be a real mess unless you plan to keep it in some kind of
> covered container after opening.
>
> Perhaps a better experiment would be paste wax. =A0I think I may have
> used it in the past for this, but I can't recall how well it did or
> did not work.
Bar soap works until you use ferrous metals.
Beeswax is a bit sticky, but I don't recall ever experiencing problems
getting it off my hands: I'm sitting here looking at a new toilet
flange ring that I just poked and prodded a bit. It is sticky, but it
doesn't adhere to my hands.
Probably, it's better to pick up beeswax, wing and leg parts and all,
from a local beekeeper. That is not as sticky, can be easily cleaned
(melt and pour through cheesecloth) if you feel a need, and works
beautifully without ever drawing water to itself. That said, plain old
floor wax works just fine, too. When I built my deck, I lined up about
20 screws at a time in a can of Johnson's and went from there. It
worked beautifully.
On 11 Feb, 01:12, "Morris Dovey" <[email protected]> wrote:
> I heard somewhere that soap promotes rusting of screws - but haven't
> seen any first-hand evidence.
Try the experiment - screw some steel screws into an oak board in a
line across the grain. Come back in a year and the soaped one might
not have rusted, but it will have significantly more iron-stain
spreading outwards.
As one of my major uses of screws is for steel screws holding oak
together at a moisture-expansion joint (under tabletops etc.) I don't
want this happening. So I use candlewax, or sometimes beeswax.
Lew Hodgett wrote:
> I stated:
> > What part of the country?
>
>
> Don Fearn wrote:
> > Northern MN.
>
>
> Did the mosquitoes file flight plans in that part of MN? <G>
>
> Lew
It's winter. They've been ordered to stand down. ;-)
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Tue, Feb 13, 2007, 9:19am (EST-1) [email protected] (Dave=A0B) doth
sayeth:
Hi, my name is Dave. =A0<snip>
Some advice. This is not a binary newsgroup - kill ALL the html
when you post here.
JOAT
When in doubt, go to sleep.
- Mully Small
"Buddy Matlosz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Buddy Matlosz wrote:
>>
>> > That was Brylcream.
>>
>> Ah, he remembers.
>>
>> All is not lost.
>>
> Brylcream, a little dab'll do ya,
> Brylcream, you'll look so debonair.
> Brylcream, the gals will all pursue ya,
> They'll love to run their fingers through your hair.
>
>
> My memory scares me sometimes.
Mine too. Useless stuff I remember. Names, birthdays, appointments, nope.
-- Mark
C & E wrote:
| I have often used barsoap as a screw lube but found it a pain to
| keep the surface sufficiently wet to be easy to use. Whe the soap
| is too dry it doesn't adhere to the screw, falling off before it is
| of any use. I once read that a toilet flange wax ring was useful
| and happened to find one at the bottom of one of my 'necessary'
| boxes. In the past I have used petroleum jelly and had it migrate
| to the surface, wrecking the ability to hold a finish. I am
| wondering if the wax ring will do the same. What is your
| experience with screw lubricants?
The wax rings are bees' wax and should work well as screw lube.
I heard somewhere that soap promotes rusting of screws - but haven't
seen any first-hand evidence.
--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto
"Lee Michaels" <leemichaels*nadaspam*@comcast.net> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> Which sound far more hygienic than licking the screws.
>
> It is also safer for the tongue than licking the screws.
>
So obviously they need a tongue shaped applicator kinda like the finger-
shaped caulk spreader. ;-)
Puckdropper
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Buddy Matlosz wrote:
| "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
| news:[email protected]...
|| Buddy Matlosz wrote:
||
|| > That was Brylcream.
||
|| Ah, he remembers.
||
|| All is not lost.
||
| Brylcream, a little dab'll do ya,
| Brylcream, you'll look so debonair.
| Brylcream, the gals will all pursue ya,
| They'll love to run their fingers through your hair.
|
| My memory scares me sometimes.
Train
wrecks
few
reason
clear
fireman
never
hugs
engineer
Burmashave
I really wish I could erase and re-use at least five or six of those
brain cells for something useful...
--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto
Dave B wrote:
| Hi, my name is Dave. I would use the wax ring. I am a union
| carpenter ( retired ). I have tried other stuff before but
| nothing works as well as the good ol' wax ring. You can even
| use the wax lubricant for saw blades. Dave
|
| I Love You Forever, Honey. Dave
Yeah, yeah - we love you, too.
...but only for a very /short/ forever if you post HTML and graphics
to text-only newsgroups :-)
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DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto
I think it was Lew Hodgett <[email protected]> who stated:
>Morris Dovey wrote:
>
> > Burmashave
>
>The Spring
>Has sprung
>The grass
>Has riz
>Over where
>Last year's
>Careless
>Driver is
>BurmaShave
Seen last year along the road:
Try our FRESH sweet corn
The stand's very near
It'll cost MUCH less than
A buccaneer
BurmaCorn
Sure enough, there was a stand selling sweet corn a half mile down the
road . . . .
-Don
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"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Buddy Matlosz wrote:
>
> > That was Brylcream.
>
> Ah, he remembers.
>
> All is not lost.
>
Brylcream, a little dab'll do ya,
Brylcream, you'll look so debonair.
Brylcream, the gals will all pursue ya,
They'll love to run their fingers through your hair.
My memory scares me sometimes.
B.
Sun, Feb 11, 2007, 9:48am [email protected] (Buddy=A0Matlosz) doth
sayeth:
My memory scares me sometimes.
Don't worry. It scares us too.
JOAT
Only those who have the patience to do simple things perfectly will
acquire the skill to do difficult things easily.
- Johann Von Schiller
A dual purpose product, Minwax Finishing Wax.
"C & E" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I have often used barsoap as a screw lube but found it a pain to keep the
>surface sufficiently wet to be easy to use. Whe the soap is too dry it
>doesn't adhere to the screw, falling off before it is of any use. I once
>read that a toilet flange wax ring was useful and happened to find one at
>the bottom of one of my 'necessary' boxes. In the past I have used
>petroleum jelly and had it migrate to the surface, wrecking the ability to
>hold a finish. I am wondering if the wax ring will do the same. What is
>your experience with screw lubricants?
>
"Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>Soap is hygroscopic, I think it is. It draws water. If you combine
>steel screws and oak you have a real mess given a bit of time.
>
>Paste floor wax and beeswax both work well. I've heard that the new
>toilet rings are not beeswax, but it's still generally, and cheaply,
>available from any beekeeper (around here, it's two or three bucks a
>pound, which should last pretty close to a lifetime as a screw
>lubricant source. That's uncleaned. Woodcraft carries the cleaned
>stuff in half pound blocks for 13 bucks).
Soap may be somewhat hygroscopic, but better examples would be methanol and
ethanol. They absorb water from the air readily. Perhaps the property
you're thinking of is hydrophilic or hydrophobic. Soap molecules have a
hydrophilic (water-preferring) end and a hydrophobic (oil/fat-preferring)
end, which is why it works as it does by cleaning a variety of substances.
todd
"Robatoy" told us
> On Feb 10, 8:12 pm, "Morris Dovey" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I heard somewhere that soap promotes rusting of screws - but haven't
>> seen any first-hand evidence.
>>
> That wouldn't surprise me one bit. Soap is usually quite basic
> (alkalinity)..(as in base vs acid)
> When in contact with even a mild base, raw iron will most certainly
> corrode.
>
> r----> who lines up screws and sprays TopKote all over them. That is
> supposd to be silicon-free and it sure makes the scews go into oak
> without a squeek.
>
>
Which sound far more hygienic than licking the screws.
It is also safer for the tongue than licking the screws.
Don Fearn wrote:
>
> Seen last year along the road:
>
>
> Try our FRESH sweet corn
>
> The stand's very near
>
> It'll cost MUCH less than
>
> A buccaneer
>
> BurmaCorn
>
>
>
> Sure enough, there was a stand selling sweet corn a half mile down the
> road . . . .
You gotta love it.
What part of the country?
Lew
I have an old 35mm film can with Johnson's paste wax in it.
It does dry out over time, but otherwise, just stick the screw in the wax,
and pop it into place. No problems with migration.
Old Guy
"C & E" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I have often used barsoap as a screw lube but found it a pain to keep the
>surface sufficiently wet to be easy to use. Whe the soap is too dry it
>doesn't adhere to the screw, falling off before it is of any use. I once
>read that a toilet flange wax ring was useful and happened to find one at
>the bottom of one of my 'necessary' boxes. In the past I have used
>petroleum jelly and had it migrate to the surface, wrecking the ability to
>hold a finish. I am wondering if the wax ring will do the same. What is
>your experience with screw lubricants?
>
Someone may have a better way than me. I use a vernier to find the screw
minor thread diameter and drill the pilot hole accordingly. When the pilot
hole is not properly sized I wet the screw threads before using the barsoap.
So far by using a quality drill and c'sink bit matched to the right screw
size I was able to manage in maple, oak and cherry without lubrication.
When screwing in hard spots and knots I for sure use bardsoap as lubrication
after wetting the threads of the screw. I have learned by accident that a
drop of carpenter's glue also facilitate the driving of the screws in soft
wood like eastern white pine.
"C & E" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I have often used barsoap as a screw lube but found it a pain to keep the
>surface sufficiently wet to be easy to use. Whe the soap is too dry it
>doesn't adhere to the screw, falling off before it is of any use. I once
>read that a toilet flange wax ring was useful and happened to find one at
>the bottom of one of my 'necessary' boxes. In the past I have used
>petroleum jelly and had it migrate to the surface, wrecking the ability to
>hold a finish. I am wondering if the wax ring will do the same. What is
>your experience with screw lubricants?
>
Sun, Feb 11, 2007, 1:33am (EST+5) [email protected]
(<[email protected]>) doth sayeth:
Someone may have a better way than me. I use a vernier to find the screw
minor thread diameter and drill the pilot hole accordingly. <snip>
I just hold bits up to the screw to compare until I find a suitable
size.
JOAT
Only those who have the patience to do simple things perfectly will
acquire the skill to do difficult things easily.
- Johann Von Schiller
J T wrote:
> Sun, Feb 11, 2007, 1:33am (EST+5) [email protected]
> (<[email protected]>) doth sayeth:
> Someone may have a better way than me. I use a vernier to find the screw
> minor thread diameter and drill the pilot hole accordingly. <snip>
>
> I just hold bits up to the screw to compare until I find a suitable
> size.
>
I cheat. I use the chart in the "Handy Pocket Reference" from the HW
store checkout lane. ;-)
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C & E wrote:
> I have often used barsoap as a screw lube but found it a pain to keep
the
> surface sufficiently wet to be easy to use. Whe the soap is too dry it
> doesn't adhere to the screw, falling off before it is of any use.
<snip>
Waterless hand soap such as GoJo.
As the old commercial for Wild Root Cream Oil went, ".. a little dab
will do ya."
Lew
"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> C & E wrote:
>
> > I have often used barsoap as a screw lube but found it a pain to keep
> the
> > surface sufficiently wet to be easy to use. Whe the soap is too dry it
> > doesn't adhere to the screw, falling off before it is of any use.
> <snip>
>
> Waterless hand soap such as GoJo.
>
> As the old commercial for Wild Root Cream Oil went, ".. a little dab
> will do ya."
>
That was Brylcream.
B.
Sun, Feb 11, 2007, 1:49am [email protected] (Buddy=A0Matlosz)
corrected Lew with:
That was Brylcream.
Buddy is too modest. He even made a recording of it.
http://www.geocities.com/foodedge/sounds/brylcream50s.wav
JOAT
Only those who have the patience to do simple things perfectly will
acquire the skill to do difficult things easily.
- Johann Von Schiller
ROTFLMAO.
Thanks, that made my day - which gives you some idea of how my day's been
going.
Buddy
"J T" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Sun, Feb 11, 2007, 1:49am [email protected] (Buddy Matlosz)
corrected Lew with:
That was Brylcream.
Buddy is too modest. He even made a recording of it.
http://www.geocities.com/foodedge/sounds/brylcream50s.wav
JOAT
Only those who have the patience to do simple things perfectly will
acquire the skill to do difficult things easily.
- Johann Von Schiller
Sun, Feb 11, 2007, 6:35pm [email protected] (Buddy=A0Matlosz) doth
sayeth:
ROTFLMAO.
Thanks, that made my day - which gives you some idea of how my day's
been going.
That bad eh?
JOAT
When in doubt, go to sleep.
- Mully Small
"C & E" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> What is
> your experience with screw lubricants?
>
K-Y Jelly, of course.
B.
"Buddy Matlosz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "C & E" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> What is
>> your experience with screw lubricants?
>>
> K-Y Jelly, of course.
You've got it. High-quality facial soaps contain glycerin in good
proportion, just as your K-Y does. They're also pH neutralized, of course.
Pretty friendly stuff that lubes great and evaporates slowly. Might be
enough time to evaporate that soft iron would rust, but plated mild steel or
even harder stuff with phosphate coatings should endure.
I think it was "C & E" <[email protected]> who stated:
>I have often used barsoap as a screw lube but found it a pain to keep the
>surface sufficiently wet to be easy to use. Whe the soap is too dry it
>doesn't adhere to the screw, falling off before it is of any use. I once
>read that a toilet flange wax ring was useful and happened to find one at
>the bottom of one of my 'necessary' boxes. In the past I have used
>petroleum jelly and had it migrate to the surface, wrecking the ability to
>hold a finish. I am wondering if the wax ring will do the same. What is
>your experience with screw lubricants?
I use birthday candles that I had left over after my kids moved away.
I read somewhere along the way . . . LONG before the Wreck was
available . . . that soap wasn't a good idea.
I also have some beeswax that I got from my wife and that works well,
too.
Between the birthday candles and the beeswax I have a lifetime supply.
-Don
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On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 20:04:52 -0500, "C & E" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>I have often used barsoap as a screw lube but found it a pain to keep the
>surface sufficiently wet to be easy to use. Whe the soap is too dry it
>doesn't adhere to the screw, falling off before it is of any use. I once
>read that a toilet flange wax ring was useful and happened to find one at
>the bottom of one of my 'necessary' boxes. In the past I have used
>petroleum jelly and had it migrate to the surface, wrecking the ability to
>hold a finish. I am wondering if the wax ring will do the same. What is
>your experience with screw lubricants?
I use bar soap, and it's always been fine. I'd caution you against
using that wax ring for anything but installing a toilet, though.
Having done that job a number of times when remodeling, it's some of
the stickiest, nastiest crap there ever was- if you can't get it off
your fingers, I can't even imagine how hard it would be to get off
unfinished wood! It's also going to pick up every speck of anything
that may be floating around the shop as soon as you open it, so expect
it to be a real mess unless you plan to keep it in some kind of
covered container after opening.
Perhaps a better experiment would be paste wax. I think I may have
used it in the past for this, but I can't recall how well it did or
did not work.
I think it was Lew Hodgett <[email protected]> who stated:
>Don Fearn wrote:
>
> >
> > Seen last year along the road:
> >
> >
> > Try our FRESH sweet corn
> >
> > The stand's very near
> >
> > It'll cost MUCH less than
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> > A buccaneer
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> > BurmaCorn
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> > Sure enough, there was a stand selling sweet corn a half mile down the
> > road . . . .
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>You gotta love it.
>
>What part of the country?
Northern MN.
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On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 20:04:52 -0500, "C & E" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>I have often used barsoap as a screw lube but found it a pain to keep the
>surface sufficiently wet to be easy to use. Whe the soap is too dry it
>doesn't adhere to the screw, falling off before it is of any use. I once
>read that a toilet flange wax ring was useful and happened to find one at
>the bottom of one of my 'necessary' boxes. In the past I have used
>petroleum jelly and had it migrate to the surface, wrecking the ability to
>hold a finish. I am wondering if the wax ring will do the same. What is
>your experience with screw lubricants?
>
My understanding is soap causes rust because the soap attracts
moisture. As a once upon a time chemist I can say it at least makes
sense, many products do that.
I think the whole point of a wax ring is that it will stay inert and
in place without decomposing essentially forever.
Anyway, the wax ring stuff is what I use for wood screws to make them
drive easily. It is about as cheap a product as you can use, I think
it works better than paraffin or candles. There are products on the
market that are specifically made for this purpose (Lloyds Akempucky,
et al) but they are a lot more expensive.
"Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Bar soap works until you use ferrous metals.
Beeswax is a bit sticky, but I don't recall ever experiencing problems
getting it off my hands: I'm sitting here looking at a new toilet
flange ring that I just poked and prodded a bit. It is sticky, but it
doesn't adhere to my hands.
Not all toilet wax rings are beeswax. Beeswax works well as a screw lube.
If your ring is not sticky now, wait till simmer. ;~) I agree, they can be
a sticky mess. Oddly the instructions on the ring box instruct to stick the
ring to the bottom of the toilet and then set the toilet down on to the
flange. I still set the wax ring on the flange to start with but the wax
ring will easily stick to the bottom of the toilet during the summer.
Probably, it's better to pick up beeswax, wing and leg parts and all,
from a local beekeeper. That is not as sticky, can be easily cleaned
(melt and pour through cheesecloth) if you feel a need, and works
beautifully without ever drawing water to itself. That said, plain old
floor wax works just fine, too. When I built my deck, I lined up about
20 screws at a time in a can of Johnson's and went from there. It
worked beautifully.
Yeah, regular floor wax or finishing wax work very well.
Morris Dovey wrote:
> The wax rings are bees' wax and should work well as screw lube.
Mix bees wax with turps 1:1, in a 1 lb coffee can, then keep covered.
> I heard somewhere that soap promotes rusting of screws - but haven't
> seen any first-hand evidence.
Carbon steel screws suck, IMHO.
The cost of fasteners in a project is so small as a percentage of total
cost that I don't worry about it. I just use S/S.
Lew