On 5/13/2013 9:49 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> On May 13, 6:09 pm, "G. Ross" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Busy. Thu. AM --Replaced washers and O rings in upstairs bathtub (35
>> yr old faucet) with only one trip to hardware store.
>
> OK, you posted a lot of stuff that was no doubt challenging and time
> consuming.
>
> To me, that was the most impressive. One trip? You should apply for
> your master's license. I am wrestling with a plumber now at a
> client's house that can't get a brand new Moen single handle installed
> so it doesn't leak somewhere inside or outside of the wall.
>
> I am a lousy plumber. If I had repaired a 35 year old fixture in one
> trip for parts I would have taken the rest of the day off!!
>
> Robert
>
Amen Robert. I have the dubious reputation of having the fecal touch
when it comes to plumbing.
mahalo,
jo4hn
"[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
> On May 14, 6:50 am, "G. Ross" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> OK, I cheated. I had to repair the one downstairs (just like it) 10
>> years ago. If I have to
>> make a trip to get 2 faucet washers I get 4. Same with street ells, O
>> Rings, etc. So I still had the flat washers and one set of O rings to
>> fit. The little skinny O rings on the outside is what I had to get.
>> I musta used my spares somewhere else in the past 10 years.
>
> No, no. I won't have it. Mike is right... 'tis the Divil's own werk,
> lad".
>
> Plumbing can be really easy (about 1/2% of 1% of the time) and the
> rest is usually awful.
>
> I am still impressed.
>
> Robert
What I know about plumbing.
1.. You often work in spaces that critters live in.
2. You are always bigger than the space you are working in.
3. When you drop a wrench there is a 50/50 chance it will hit you in the
head.
4. You never quite get the water supply shut off before removing a part.
5. Too loose and the fitting leaks, too tight and the fitting leaks.
"[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
> On May 14, 6:50 am, "G. Ross" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> OK, I cheated. I had to repair the one downstairs (just like it) 10
>> years ago. If I have to
>> make a trip to get 2 faucet washers I get 4. Same with street ells, O
>> Rings, etc. So I still had the flat washers and one set of O rings to
>> fit. The little skinny O rings on the outside is what I had to get.
>> I musta used my spares somewhere else in the past 10 years.
>
> No, no. I won't have it. Mike is right... 'tis the Divil's own werk,
> lad".
>
> Plumbing can be really easy (about 1/2% of 1% of the time) and the
> rest is usually awful.
>
> I am still impressed.
I barely stayed out of jail yesterday because of a plumber ... I may still
shoot the next one I see for the hell of it.
--
www.ewoodshop.com (Mobile)
On May 13, 6:09=A0pm, "G. Ross" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Busy. =A0Thu. AM --Replaced washers and O rings in upstairs bathtub (35
> yr old faucet) with only one trip to hardware store.
OK, you posted a lot of stuff that was no doubt challenging and time
consuming.
To me, that was the most impressive. One trip? You should apply for
your master's license. I am wrestling with a plumber now at a
client's house that can't get a brand new Moen single handle installed
so it doesn't leak somewhere inside or outside of the wall.
I am a lousy plumber. If I had repaired a 35 year old fixture in one
trip for parts I would have taken the rest of the day off!!
Robert
On 5/13/2013 2:26 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> Possibly, a great deal of rec time went into evolving the thread
> asking about a second hand compressor tank into a discussion of
> explosives, then pressure cookers, then into atomic bombs.
>
> Actually made it in under 100 posts, though.
>
> Robert
>
Then it blew up...
--
Jeff
On May 14, 2:02=A0pm, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
> I barely stayed out of jail yesterday because of a plumber ... I may stil=
l
> shoot the next one I see for the hell of it.
OK, after today I will bring the ammo.
We are going to have to tear out tile because of a pin hole leak in a
solder joint in the new manifold behind the new wall. Tear out
tile...
Will the newly purchased tile match the dye lot? Will the new grout
match?
Maybe if I use bleach to get the plumber's blood off the walls before
comparing...
Robert
Second full week of retirement for me, so I'm just getting the hang of it. =
However ... finally fixed the loose toilet seat, got the first coat of fin=
ish on my son't buffet (can't wait to get this project out of my shop), bro=
wsed CL for reclaimed hardwood, put my INCRA jig up on Sawmill Creek and CL=
(like to get $30 if anyone is interested), doodled some designs for daught=
er's jewelry armoire and took a decent nap every afternoon.
>=20
> What do some retirees do?
>=20
> The past 2-3 weeks:
>=20
> Made 2 prie dieu for my upholstery teacher, to donate to a cause;
>=20
> While spraying the prie dieu, I sprayed 2 cedar slab sidetable tops (for =
a=20
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> friend); Finished spraying the remaining sections of the entertainment=
=20
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> center... Got the base, with its sections, moved into the house, which=
,=20
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> finally, freed up some space in the shop!!;
>=20
> Making a few small projects to donate to the local master gardeners - dec=
or=20
>=20
> water buckets & decor small wheel barrows;=20
>=20
> Denaiing, cleaning and planing salvaged pine flooring, ~~ 400 l/f done; =
=20
>=20
> Stripped, cleaned, repaired, repainting (today) 2 sets of old sashes for =
the=20
>=20
> (continuing) shop remodel;
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> Also, for the shop, salvalaged about 5oo sq ft of insulation, from commer=
cial=20
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> construction up the road;
>=20
> Upholstery - Chase lounge and a recliner in the works; Tore apart an oak=
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> rolltop desk, to repair, for a friend.
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> Caught 9 baby possums (on the back patio) eating the cat food. Something=
,=20
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> other than the cat, is still eating the food.
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> Sonny
[email protected] wrote:
>
>>
>> To me, that was the most impressive. One trip? You should apply
>> for
>> your master's license. I am wrestling with a plumber now at a
>> client's house that can't get a brand new Moen single handle
>> installed
>> so it doesn't leak somewhere inside or outside of the wall.
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"Mike Marlow" wrote:
> Can't be done Robert - no matter what the credentials. The fact of
> the matter is that this is a biblical principle. Plumbing is of the
> devil - it's as simple as that. It cannot be done in less than 3
> trips to the hardware store, and it will still be wrong. Master
> Plumbers are nothing more than guys who knew who to know to get
> their certification. They have to make the same number of trips.
> They just get paid more - for showing their crack.
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Guy calls a plumber to repair his toilet.
Plumber arrives, repairs the toilet and hands the guy an invoice for
$200.00
for his 15 minute service call.
The guy screams, I'm a DOCTOR and I only charge $150.00 for a 15
minute
visit.
Plumber responds, "I know, that's why I left my medical practice and
became a plumber".
Lew
On May 14, 10:13=A0pm, Leon <[email protected]> wrote:
> What I know about plumbing.
>
> 1.. =A0You often work in spaces that critters live in.
> 2. =A0You are always bigger than the space you are working in.
> 3. =A0When you drop a wrench there is a =A050/50 chance it will hit you i=
n the
> head.
> 4. =A0You never quite get the water supply shut off before removing a par=
t.
> 5. =A0Too loose and the fitting leaks, too tight and the fitting leaks.
I can rebuild toilets, set sinks, replace cartridges, set toilets,
replace fixtures and garbage disposals, replace water heaters
(including all new bells and whistles needed for code compliance these
days) and replace most kitchen/bath sink fixtures.
I can solder, replace copper, and even run copper as needed.
But I cannot solder what I cannot see. My old plumber was like Cain
on the Kung Fu series and if he could see just part of the joint or
connection, he could solder all of it the first time. I have seen him
solder by heating with a torch in one hand and a mirror in the other
with a headlight on the mirror to shine it behind a joint like your
doctor used to do with his forehead mirror.
Me, I have to see ALL of of a connection in good light and test it
with soap to be satisfied. So I have NO business soldering inside a
wall.
But for $125 for a service call and $95 an hour after that... crap. I
want a helluva lot more than I am getting these days.
Robert
On Monday, May 13, 2013 1:08:20 PM UTC-5, dpb wrote:
> Not seen any activity on the rec since early yesterday
I've been reading the various posts. Just because I don't comment, doesn't mean I'm not keeping up.
I've been busy. Nothing special, so haven't posted about it and haven't had any problems to ask for advice.... yet!
What do some retirees do?
The past 2-3 weeks:
Made 2 prie dieu for my upholstery teacher, to donate to a cause;
While spraying the prie dieu, I sprayed 2 cedar slab sidetable tops (for a
friend); Finished spraying the remaining sections of the entertainment
center... Got the base, with its sections, moved into the house, which,
finally, freed up some space in the shop!!;
Making a few small projects to donate to the local master gardeners - decor
water buckets & decor small wheel barrows;
Denaiing, cleaning and planing salvaged pine flooring, ~~ 400 l/f done;
Stripped, cleaned, repaired, repainting (today) 2 sets of old sashes for the
(continuing) shop remodel;
Also, for the shop, salvalaged about 5oo sq ft of insulation, from commercial
construction up the road;
Upholstery - Chase lounge and a recliner in the works; Tore apart an oak
rolltop desk, to repair, for a friend.
Caught 9 baby possums (on the back patio) eating the cat food. Something,
other than the cat, is still eating the food.
Sonny
On Tue, 14 May 2013 14:02:13 -0500, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>"[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On May 14, 6:50 am, "G. Ross" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> OK, I cheated. I had to repair the one downstairs (just like it) 10
>>> years ago. If I have to
>>> make a trip to get 2 faucet washers I get 4. Same with street ells, O
>>> Rings, etc. So I still had the flat washers and one set of O rings to
>>> fit. The little skinny O rings on the outside is what I had to get.
>>> I musta used my spares somewhere else in the past 10 years.
>>
>> No, no. I won't have it. Mike is right... 'tis the Divil's own werk,
>> lad".
>>
>> Plumbing can be really easy (about 1/2% of 1% of the time) and the
>> rest is usually awful.
>>
>> I am still impressed.
>
>I barely stayed out of jail yesterday because of a plumber ... I may still
>shoot the next one I see for the hell of it.
Sounds like a story to be told, hopefully your not still in Arkansas
Mike M
On May 14, 6:50=A0am, "G. Ross" <[email protected]> wrote:
> OK, I cheated. =A0I had to repair the one downstairs (just like it) 10
> years ago. =A0If I have to
> make a trip to get 2 faucet washers I get 4. Same with street ells, O
> Rings, etc. =A0So I still had the flat washers and one set of O rings to
> fit. =A0The little skinny O rings on the outside is what I had to get.
> I musta used my spares somewhere else in the past 10 years.
No, no. I won't have it. Mike is right... 'tis the Divil's own werk,
lad".
Plumbing can be really easy (about 1/2% of 1% of the time) and the
rest is usually awful.
I am still impressed.
Robert
On Mon, 13 May 2013 12:56:48 -0700 (PDT), Sonny <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On Monday, May 13, 2013 1:08:20 PM UTC-5, dpb wrote:
>> Not seen any activity on the rec since early yesterday
>
>
>I've been reading the various posts. Just because I don't comment, doesn't mean I'm not keeping up.
>
>I've been busy. Nothing special, so haven't posted about it and haven't had any problems to ask for advice.... yet!
>
>What do some retirees do?
>The past 2-3 weeks:
>Made 2 prie dieu for my upholstery teacher, to donate to a cause;
>While spraying the prie dieu, I sprayed 2 cedar slab sidetable tops (for a
> friend); Finished spraying the remaining sections of the entertainment
> center... Got the base, with its sections, moved into the house, which,
> finally, freed up some space in the shop!!;
>Making a few small projects to donate to the local master gardeners - decor
> water buckets & decor small wheel barrows;
>Denaiing, cleaning and planing salvaged pine flooring, ~~ 400 l/f done;
>Stripped, cleaned, repaired, repainting (today) 2 sets of old sashes for the
> (continuing) shop remodel;
>Also, for the shop, salvalaged about 5oo sq ft of insulation, from commercial
> construction up the road;
>Upholstery - Chase lounge and a recliner in the works; Tore apart an oak
> rolltop desk, to repair, for a friend.
>Caught 9 baby possums (on the back patio) eating the cat food. Something,
> other than the cat, is still eating the food.
>
>Sonny
Past two days been bailing out a shipping company. My neighbor is
moving to Holland and they showed up with a semi with a 40' container
on it. House on 6 acres with a gravel drive in a U shape. Spent the
day with an excavator and backhoe moving rocks removing stumps and
generally trashing landscaping. Then they had nothing to lift heavy
loads into the container. Today I spent the better part of the day
putting rocks back replanting Rhody's and regrading the driveway.
Before that we had a windstorm which brought trees down so my friend
who has a tree company had me out helping him for a few days. I'm on
SS Disability and that much work reminds me of why I don't work.
Probably be a few days to get back to the shop. It's kind of wood
working but I do get some nice pieces of wood out of it.
Mike M
dpb wrote:
> Not seen any activity on the rec since early yesterday other than my
> errata post earlier this AM???
It's kinda wierd - I haven't seen a lot of posts over the past day or so
either...
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
On 5/13/13 1:58 PM, woodchucker wrote:
> On 5/13/2013 2:26 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>> Possibly, a great deal of rec time went into evolving the thread
>> asking about a second hand compressor tank into a discussion of
>> explosives, then pressure cookers, then into atomic bombs.
>>
>> Actually made it in under 100 posts, though.
>>
>> Robert
>>
> Then it blew up...
>
Nice. Reply of the month. :-)
--
-MIKE-
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com
[email protected]
---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply
On Mon, 13 May 2013 13:08:20 -0500, dpb wrote:
> Not seen any activity on the rec since early yesterday other than my
> errata post earlier this AM???
Not just this group. There's a Linux group that's at least as active and
it has had almost no traffic for a couple of days as well. I queried aioe
but no answer as yet.
Has anyone using a different news server seen the same thing or is it
just aioe?
--
When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and
carrying a cross.
[email protected] wrote:
>
> To me, that was the most impressive. One trip? You should apply for
> your master's license. I am wrestling with a plumber now at a
> client's house that can't get a brand new Moen single handle installed
> so it doesn't leak somewhere inside or outside of the wall.
Can't be done Robert - no matter what the credentials. The fact of the
matter is that this is a biblical principle. Plumbing is of the devil -
it's as simple as that. It cannot be done in less than 3 trips to the
hardware store, and it will still be wrong. Master Plumbers are nothing
more than guys who knew who to know to get their certification. They have
to make the same number of trips. They just get paid more - for showing
their crack.
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
[email protected] wrote:
> On May 13, 6:09 pm, "G. Ross"<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Busy. Thu. AM --Replaced washers and O rings in upstairs bathtub (35
>> yr old faucet) with only one trip to hardware store.
>
> OK, you posted a lot of stuff that was no doubt challenging and time
> consuming.
>
> To me, that was the most impressive. One trip? You should apply for
> your master's license. I am wrestling with a plumber now at a
> client's house that can't get a brand new Moen single handle installed
> so it doesn't leak somewhere inside or outside of the wall.
>
> I am a lousy plumber. If I had repaired a 35 year old fixture in one
> trip for parts I would have taken the rest of the day off!!
>
> Robert
OK, I cheated. I had to repair the one downstairs (just like it) 10
years ago. If I have to
make a trip to get 2 faucet washers I get 4. Same with street ells, O
Rings, etc. So I still had the flat washers and one set of O rings to
fit. The little skinny O rings on the outside is what I had to get.
I musta used my spares somewhere else in the past 10 years.
--
GW Ross
I can resist anything but temptation.
dpb wrote:
> Not seen any activity on the rec since early yesterday other than my
> errata post earlier this AM???
>
> --
Busy. Thu. AM --Replaced washers and O rings in upstairs bathtub (35
yr old faucet) with only one trip to hardware store.
Thu pm installed outside door. Picked up a short magnolia log.
Fri. built a deck and steps. 18" square, to allow dog access to
above doggie door.
Sat. Finished two sweetgum bowls, roughed out 4 magnolia bowls.
Started weighing all the drying bowls. I do this every 2 weeks. When
they stop losing weight they are ready to finish turn.
Sun. Had lunch (Dinner in Georgia) with brothers and sisters at our
Mom's house. (She is 101 years old). Finished weighing bowls. Found
40 which were dry.
Today. Flattened the bottoms and tops of the 40 bowls, re-rounded the
dovetail recesses with router. Finished one sweetgum platter other
than the bottom
Whew!
--
GW Ross
I can resist anything but temptation.